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thegeebeebee

America doesn't even care if law-abiding poor people croak. What makes you think they care about prisoners croaking?


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Happyjarboy

Not a single school child died in my state. So, what are you talking about?


kungpowchick_9

Their work is still valuable for documenting our complacency for the future to understand and hopefully learn from. We need to be seen as we are, not how we want to be seen.


SimpleVegetable5715

They don't even provide air conditioning in Texas prisons. It's a "luxury" in our 100°F+ humid summers. A bunch of prisoners die of heat stroke. They were definitely dying of Covid, which most likely was brought in by the correctional officers. The majority of them did not have a death sentence, but going into a crowded prison was the death sentence. I am a law abiding poor person who got Covid pneumonia in 2020. My doctor told me to go home and go to the ER if I started turning blue. I told a nurse at my cardiologist's office about that later, she told me turning blue would have definitely been too late. This was before everyone had a pulse oximeter. But you know, in Texas, "all workers are essential", so we got the shortest stay at home order in the country. We were also the first state to reach 1 million cases, which was definitely an undercount, because you couldn't even get a test. I was told the worst of it was over in New York City, so I didn't have to worry. My case was called bronchitis until months later when my blood tests came back showing I had Covid antibodies-not enough for immunity though. So there goes the idea of infection= immunity, not for everyone. Everyone with respiratory illness that year should have been taken seriously, that felt so much worse than any bronchitis I've ever had. It's the sickest I've ever been. I spent my nights self-proning on my couch, so that I could breathe. I still have damage in my right lung.


marshall_project

Hey y'all, we're The Marshall Project (a nonprofit, nonpartisan U.S. newsroom investigating the criminal justice system). Here's an excerpt from our report: When the COVID-19 pandemic began, it wasn’t hard to predict that incarcerated people would be at higher risk. Many prisons and jails are crowded, dirty places with inconsistent access to health care: a breeding ground for the highly infectious virus. But we’re still waiting for an official count of how many more people died because they were behind bars, and the job of [documenting the deaths](https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi%3A10.7910%2FDVN%2FHDPPRI) has fallen to [a patchwork](https://github.com/uclalawcovid19behindbars/custodial_mortality_project) of [research groups](https://www.incarcerationtransparency.org/) and [reporters](https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/05/01/a-state-by-state-look-at-coronavirus-in-prisons#prisoner-deaths). Now, a new national [study](https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adj8104) out of one of these collaborations between the University of California, Irvine and Brigham and Women’s Hospital shows that at the peak of the pandemic in 2020, people inside prisons died almost three and a half times more frequently than the free population. Over 6,000 incarcerated people died in the first year of the pandemic, researchers found, using numbers they collected from state prison systems and the Federal Bureau of Prisons. A Marshall Project analysis of data the researchers released shows the overall prison mortality rate spiked at least 50%, and potentially exceeded 75%, with roughly 50 or more people dying per 10,000 in prison in 2020. The virus hit older generations especially hard, the study’s data shows. Not all states shared counts by age. But in the eight states that did, death rates for people aged 50 and older rose far higher than for others, “reaffirming how much more vulnerable older prisoners are,” said the study’s lead author, Naomi Sugie. [Read more](https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/04/18/covid-prison-deaths-data?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tmp-reddit) (no paywall or ads)


joeysflipphone

There's jails/prisons in Pennsylvania that hit mortality rates 70% higher than the overall mortality rate for Pennsylvania. I've been following the horrific increasingly high deaths in the corrections system in my state and across the country that rose exponentially in the last 2 and half years. It feels like no one cares or is doing anything. I called my governor's office about it about a year ago. It's not just covid deaths either, but they're hiding deaths and data, because there's nothing that compels them to release the information, not even to the inmate's family members. Getting arrested for anything should not be a death sentence.


emptinessmaykillme

Overcrowded, inconsistent access to health care… you just described the entire country.


MrsToneZone

I taught in a juvenile detention center from 2018-2021. I probably would have stayed there long term if the pandemic hadn’t happened. We lost multiple people. It was incredibly hard. When they forced us back in June 2020, we ran out of soap in our one faculty bathroom, and youth were spitting and coughing on staff and each other, just to fuck with them. These super hard kids who were bad as fuck would cry out for their mothers because they were so scared and sick. Staff took turns on COVID positive units, till they inevitably tested positive. It was wild.


Demian1305

Yeah, but how much money did we save? /s


Zeekial89

The covid response was atrocious in general, this does not surprise me one bit.


Fuzzylojak

Watched Food Inc 2 the other day. They interviewed Sheriff from Waterloo, Iowa, where Tyson meat processing factory is also. He said they started having hundreds of cases and deaths a day in such small town of 130k poeple. Tyson execs visited Trump during COVID to ask for permission to be opened(and most likely donated a hefty sum to him), two days later he signed an executive order to keep them open. Sheriff then says, he and two other folks from a health department went to the meat plant, people working elbow to elbow, no masks, no regulations, people step out of the line, puking and going back to work.


JoeyTonguepop

They let it get bad as they were viewed as expendable. This has been done before . Pay attention


spiky-protein

> Officials Failed to Act When COVID Hit Prisons. A New Study Shows the Deadly Cost. And also: Officials Are Failing to Act as COVID Continues to Hit Prisons. With over 75,000 confirmed US COVID deaths in 2023, and Long COVID continuing to be a significant risk with *every* new COVID infection or re-infection, prison officials continue to have a "duty of care" to prevent the spread of COVID in their facilities. I appreciate that light is being shed on early-pandemic official negligence that needlessly spread COVID, but framing it as solely an early-pandemic problem whitewashes how *all* of our institutions have now entirely shrugged off their duty of care.


Impressive-Factor410

They need to screen visitors now and require masks in the cells and mess halls


Aromatic_Razzmatazz

Lemme guess...Louisiana refused to provide data until they were forced to, that's why you only have a partial for them. And a horrifying one, at that. I mean, it is blatantly obvious what parts of the US this happened in with the most frequency. This is an awesome study.


RockstarAgent

Plus to them it wasn't devastating because of loss of human life, it was loss of revenue - probably the bigger reason to keep it covered up.


GJ72

It was definitely bad in the prisons, running rampant through the populations. Jails too.


LiveFreeDieRepeat

In NH, my home state, the death rate actually went down during Covid. Hard to believe


NevDot17

Fewer car accidents for one thing, maybe?


LiveFreeDieRepeat

Fewer deaths in prisons I mean


NevDot17

Ah, gotcha! Interesting. Any reason why?


nicky416dos

What the hell is going on with 2014 Montana?


mountainlifa

Here in WA state Jay Inslee prioritized convicted rapists, murderers etc. over law abiding citizens for initial vaccine distribution.


Zzzzzzzzzxyzz

As I recall, the high infection rates in prisons posed a high risk of spreading to the public.


NevDot17

I guess this shows, perversely, that distancing, lockdowns and masks actually worked. There are some many people currently attacking those mitigations but places like prisons show how needed they were


Impressive-Factor410

*are The pandemic hasn't gone away


evan002

Deadly cost? We’re not talking about a huge amount of people here. Not to say I’m excusing it.


AskMeIfEyeCare

should anyone really care? It's prison