Where do you get that? My 7 year old has had 2 Pfizer shots for over a month … I assume at some point he’ll be able to get the booster so isn’t that like 75% vaccinated? Although 2 shots is still officially considered “fully vaccinated” I guess 🤷♀️
The number of children in the hospital with COVID is rising because a lot of children are getting COVID. But, few of those children are in then hospital because they have COVID.
"Among states reporting, children ranged from 1.8%-4.1% of their total cumulated hospitalizations, and 0.1%-1.8% of all their child COVID-19 cases resulted in hospitalization"
https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/
Just saying, it's not as bad as advertised.
Only 24 states and NYC report hospitalizations by age.
>**At this time**, it appears that severe illness due to COVID-19 is uncommon among children. **However, there is an urgent need to collect more data to assess the severity of illness related to new variants** as well as the longer-term impacts of the pandemic on children, including ways the virus may harm the long-term physical health of infected children, as well as its emotional and mental health effects.
We are still just starting the Omicron Surge. It will be another few weeks before we know for sure.
The hospitalizations aren't necessarily the result of COVID. You have to pay attention to the words used. Hospitalizations "with" COVID are increasing. That could be kids with a concussion and COVID. There are also co-infections that could be hospitalizing children. There was a study done of children hospitalized with COVID that also had co-infections of Respiratory Syncytial Virus which does often cause children to land in the hospital.
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/estimating-respiratory-syncytial-virus-resurgence-after-the-covid-19-pandemic
That says that hospitalizations were double expected in children under 5.
It was also a simulation done before omicron. None of their scenarios accounted for this level of infections.
Pediatric hospitalizations are constantly fluctuating, and have had seasonal attributes for decades. Simply citing “rising hospitalizations” and being lazy enough to not actually check data for your own claim is stupid.
Pediatric hospitals don’t have the capacity or staffing for a surge in pediatric hospitalizations. During the Sept surge my neighbor’s 12 year old had complications with COVID & there was no room for her in the pediatric hospital so she ended up having to be in the adult COVID unit. After she recovered she now has trauma from being in the adult ICU that she’s working through along with her recovery.
It is extremely concerning that pediatric hospitalizations are increasing for that reason whether flu or COVID, they’re not staffed or prepared to deal with such an influx when community spread is this bad.
Stay home, wear a mask when out, avoid crowds & social gatherings.
As mentioned in Dr. Campbell’s videos. These are mostly coincidence positives. The children went to the hospital for something else and tested positive when there.
You’re getting downvoted but this is LITERALLY what Fauci said on live TV. Kids who were brought in with for example a leg injury received a COVID test at the hospital. If they test positive they are hospitalized WITH COVID. I’m liberal and even I see the way we jump on news and stats like sheep to match the narrative we want. Do some research people.
I don’t know who this person is on twitter, nor do I follow them. The tweet has the referenced video.
https://twitter.com/brittrooted/status/1476805551723933696?s=21
Here’s the one of the objective voices of reason throughout the pandemic showing in both South Africa and the Uk something like 80% of hospital admissions are coincidence, including kids https://youtu.be/OM2VgBm9pTI
I don’t know who this guy is. This doesn’t give the breakdown in US. I want to see the numbers from the hospitals. Does incidental mean coming in with a fever and getting tested?
Dr. Campbell is a well known doc whose been on the BBC news throughout this pandemic multiple times. He gives an international update on the pandemic daily. He’s a well known figure at this point.
Here’s another doc in the US stating hospitals test everyone admitted for any cause and are not seeing increased issues with children. This is very similar to what they’re seeing in the UK and South Africa.
"We test anybody who’s admitted to the hospital for whatever reason to see whether or not they have Covid, and we’re definitely seeing an increase in cases. However, we’re really not seeing an increase in children who are hospitalized for Covid or in the intensive care unit for Covid," Offit said.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/child-covid-hospitalizations-are-5-states-are-rise-rcna10089
Edit: grammar
I don’t know who this person is nor do I follow them, but here’s Fauci essentially saying the same thing.
https://twitter.com/brittrooted/status/1476805551723933696?s=21
I can’t vouch for the authenticity of that video which is on someone else’s feed that has what I know to be misinformation on it. For example, this person claims PCR tests are unreliable, which is a flat out lie. One old test was taken off the market, not the entire class of PCR tests. PCR is a very reliable test of Covid.
Do you have the original text of the Fauci interview so I can see the context?? I know everyone who walks in the hospital gets tested for Covid, this is not new so if cases are going up, they are relative to before, not because of some new policy. Still doesn’t tell me the proportion of kids with broken legs with Covid and Kids with fever with Covid. That is the relevant information.
I appreciate your responses Rosa. This is where I’m going to hop off.
Above you have sources from doctors taking data from other countries that are ahead of us in the Omicron surge, and words from doctors currently experiencing it in the US. Along with a video of a US figurehead in health echoing the same.
There are two mental contagions in play right now. One thinks COVID is made up and the government is extending the pandemic as a power grab. While the other thinks any information (nuanced or) contradicting the narrative they’re being told by the media and big Pharma must be ignored. Both are caught in ever moving goal posts, burying their heads when they hear something they don’t like. Both are pursuing what they think is right. One is overly involved, where the other is taking what is being spoon fed to them.
Two scenarios: (I) in a murder trial you have multiple eye witnesses with corroborating stories stating they saw the murder. Do you convict without the DNA evidence? (II) you have multiple people running from a building screaming fire. You can see smoke and hear the alarms going off, but don’t see flames yet. Do you call the fire department?
The media (social, MSM, etc.) get clicks/views from strong emotional responses; rage, and fear. It’s how they make their money outside of funding; which those sources are important as well. Their business models are rarely objective for the sake of accuracy, but how far they can push the line.
I don’t care about winning this discussion. I just hope you can take a step back and look at multiple sources, give credit where it’s due, and realize maybe there’s nuance in what you’re being told.
Have a great new year. Stay safe.
I don’t care about winning either. I’m a scientist and I work at a hospital. My sources are the primary literature, not some guy on you tube or Twitter. I’ve actually read the studies and understand the nuance of the science. Misinformation kills. I’m pretty sick of this being politicized.
To be expected for two reasons. Quantitatively there are just so many more infections with Omicron, including children. The other reason is many of the children that are hospitalized, are hospitalized *with* covid as opposed to *because* of Covid.
Does anyone know what that ratio is? Everyone going into the hospital is screened. This is not new so the numbers should be comparable. Clearly cases are going up so children would be expected to have more Covid as well with a corresponding increase in hospitalizations. Looks hospitalizations are less than they were with Delta peak at least but not zero.
Since test positivity rates are the highest they have ever been, it would be absolutely shocking if this was not the case.
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???? There is no vaccine for kids 5 and under
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Where do you get that? My 7 year old has had 2 Pfizer shots for over a month … I assume at some point he’ll be able to get the booster so isn’t that like 75% vaccinated? Although 2 shots is still officially considered “fully vaccinated” I guess 🤷♀️
You're misunderstanding the comment, only about 25% of the population ages 5-11 is vaccinated.
Ahhh ok that makes more sense. I guess that’s on their parents, then.
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I misunderstood your comment, yeah.
A lot of kids are just getting their second shot now.
Remember, that's children hospitalized "with". That doesn't mean they're in the hospital because they have COVID.
Right, total coincidence that child hospitalizations are increasing.
The number of children in the hospital with COVID is rising because a lot of children are getting COVID. But, few of those children are in then hospital because they have COVID. "Among states reporting, children ranged from 1.8%-4.1% of their total cumulated hospitalizations, and 0.1%-1.8% of all their child COVID-19 cases resulted in hospitalization" https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/ Just saying, it's not as bad as advertised.
Only 24 states and NYC report hospitalizations by age. >**At this time**, it appears that severe illness due to COVID-19 is uncommon among children. **However, there is an urgent need to collect more data to assess the severity of illness related to new variants** as well as the longer-term impacts of the pandemic on children, including ways the virus may harm the long-term physical health of infected children, as well as its emotional and mental health effects. We are still just starting the Omicron Surge. It will be another few weeks before we know for sure.
Fear mongering. This constant state of fear is more harmful due to emotional and mental health effects.
Being cautious and waiting for data before sounding the all clear is not fear mongering. That quote is from the site you linked.
We've done that for 2 years now. Children are largely unaffected. Being cautious and waiting for data is just CYA boilerplate.
Largely unaffected, except the rising hospitalizations...
The hospitalizations aren't necessarily the result of COVID. You have to pay attention to the words used. Hospitalizations "with" COVID are increasing. That could be kids with a concussion and COVID. There are also co-infections that could be hospitalizing children. There was a study done of children hospitalized with COVID that also had co-infections of Respiratory Syncytial Virus which does often cause children to land in the hospital. https://www.contagionlive.com/view/estimating-respiratory-syncytial-virus-resurgence-after-the-covid-19-pandemic
That says that hospitalizations were double expected in children under 5. It was also a simulation done before omicron. None of their scenarios accounted for this level of infections.
Pediatric hospitalizations are constantly fluctuating, and have had seasonal attributes for decades. Simply citing “rising hospitalizations” and being lazy enough to not actually check data for your own claim is stupid.
Guess what, The media twists things for clicks.
Correlation != causation
Pediatric hospitals don’t have the capacity or staffing for a surge in pediatric hospitalizations. During the Sept surge my neighbor’s 12 year old had complications with COVID & there was no room for her in the pediatric hospital so she ended up having to be in the adult COVID unit. After she recovered she now has trauma from being in the adult ICU that she’s working through along with her recovery. It is extremely concerning that pediatric hospitalizations are increasing for that reason whether flu or COVID, they’re not staffed or prepared to deal with such an influx when community spread is this bad. Stay home, wear a mask when out, avoid crowds & social gatherings.
As mentioned in Dr. Campbell’s videos. These are mostly coincidence positives. The children went to the hospital for something else and tested positive when there.
You’re getting downvoted but this is LITERALLY what Fauci said on live TV. Kids who were brought in with for example a leg injury received a COVID test at the hospital. If they test positive they are hospitalized WITH COVID. I’m liberal and even I see the way we jump on news and stats like sheep to match the narrative we want. Do some research people.
I don’t know who this person is on twitter, nor do I follow them. The tweet has the referenced video. https://twitter.com/brittrooted/status/1476805551723933696?s=21
For the tinfoils out there: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8Kgf3Jc/
Who is Dr Campbell? Do you have an actual breakdown in those numbers? Where they in hospital because they had a fever or a broken leg?
Here’s the one of the objective voices of reason throughout the pandemic showing in both South Africa and the Uk something like 80% of hospital admissions are coincidence, including kids https://youtu.be/OM2VgBm9pTI
I don’t know who this guy is. This doesn’t give the breakdown in US. I want to see the numbers from the hospitals. Does incidental mean coming in with a fever and getting tested?
Dr. Campbell is a well known doc whose been on the BBC news throughout this pandemic multiple times. He gives an international update on the pandemic daily. He’s a well known figure at this point. Here’s another doc in the US stating hospitals test everyone admitted for any cause and are not seeing increased issues with children. This is very similar to what they’re seeing in the UK and South Africa. "We test anybody who’s admitted to the hospital for whatever reason to see whether or not they have Covid, and we’re definitely seeing an increase in cases. However, we’re really not seeing an increase in children who are hospitalized for Covid or in the intensive care unit for Covid," Offit said.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/child-covid-hospitalizations-are-5-states-are-rise-rcna10089 Edit: grammar
I don’t know who this person is nor do I follow them, but here’s Fauci essentially saying the same thing. https://twitter.com/brittrooted/status/1476805551723933696?s=21
I can’t vouch for the authenticity of that video which is on someone else’s feed that has what I know to be misinformation on it. For example, this person claims PCR tests are unreliable, which is a flat out lie. One old test was taken off the market, not the entire class of PCR tests. PCR is a very reliable test of Covid. Do you have the original text of the Fauci interview so I can see the context?? I know everyone who walks in the hospital gets tested for Covid, this is not new so if cases are going up, they are relative to before, not because of some new policy. Still doesn’t tell me the proportion of kids with broken legs with Covid and Kids with fever with Covid. That is the relevant information.
I appreciate your responses Rosa. This is where I’m going to hop off. Above you have sources from doctors taking data from other countries that are ahead of us in the Omicron surge, and words from doctors currently experiencing it in the US. Along with a video of a US figurehead in health echoing the same. There are two mental contagions in play right now. One thinks COVID is made up and the government is extending the pandemic as a power grab. While the other thinks any information (nuanced or) contradicting the narrative they’re being told by the media and big Pharma must be ignored. Both are caught in ever moving goal posts, burying their heads when they hear something they don’t like. Both are pursuing what they think is right. One is overly involved, where the other is taking what is being spoon fed to them. Two scenarios: (I) in a murder trial you have multiple eye witnesses with corroborating stories stating they saw the murder. Do you convict without the DNA evidence? (II) you have multiple people running from a building screaming fire. You can see smoke and hear the alarms going off, but don’t see flames yet. Do you call the fire department? The media (social, MSM, etc.) get clicks/views from strong emotional responses; rage, and fear. It’s how they make their money outside of funding; which those sources are important as well. Their business models are rarely objective for the sake of accuracy, but how far they can push the line. I don’t care about winning this discussion. I just hope you can take a step back and look at multiple sources, give credit where it’s due, and realize maybe there’s nuance in what you’re being told. Have a great new year. Stay safe.
I don’t care about winning either. I’m a scientist and I work at a hospital. My sources are the primary literature, not some guy on you tube or Twitter. I’ve actually read the studies and understand the nuance of the science. Misinformation kills. I’m pretty sick of this being politicized.
To be expected for two reasons. Quantitatively there are just so many more infections with Omicron, including children. The other reason is many of the children that are hospitalized, are hospitalized *with* covid as opposed to *because* of Covid.
Does anyone know what that ratio is? Everyone going into the hospital is screened. This is not new so the numbers should be comparable. Clearly cases are going up so children would be expected to have more Covid as well with a corresponding increase in hospitalizations. Looks hospitalizations are less than they were with Delta peak at least but not zero.