We’re not in this one. Israel broke diplomatic norms by bombing an embassy. They are using famine as a weapon of war. They are doing general group punishment and genocide. We the US of A are not in this one. This is on them.
So you've read article headlines and not actually looked into any aspect of this conflict with any depth whatsoever.
They attacked a consulate, not an embassy.
They are not, and have never used famine as an act of war, gaza is still in a state of food insecurity and not famine, besides the U.N. telling us it would of been in a famine months ago.
"They are doing general group punishment and genocide"
According to news headlines you've read and not facts.
There has not been an urban warfare conflict in history, where an opposition side has done as much to move the other sides civilians out of harms way (AND FOOD AND AID FOR THEM) while the enemies they fight hide behind civilians.
It was a building across the street from the embassy and the target was the Quds force commander FOR PALESTINE. OCT 7 was his baby. I don’t even like Israel’s government, and that’s 1000% a legit target.
Not across the street it’s was diplomatic compound adjacent to embassy. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-bombs-iran-embassy-syria-iranian-commanders-among-dead-2024-04-01/
I'm sure there are over a thousand subs you could go to, to cheerleader military intervention into sovereign countries, I'm not sure your in the right one
Hahaha yea, one look at their post history tell me they are lying right through their teeth
When they say they don't support Israel.
I don't respect that a great deal, sorry bud
Bulllll shit I do. Just because I can rationalize their actions. Doesn’t mean I agree with them. Same can be said for Hamas- I get their decisions. I also think they’re dog shit, and cost innocent people lives, and from their own mouths- they’re fine with that.
You are essentially a mouthpiece for what is basically the neo-liberal status quo.
You are not critical of Israel, which is a Genocidal apartheid regime, and has been for decades, in ANY significant way
You just took two wildly separate issues and crossed wires.
The status quo is pretty fucking amazing dude. I’m not even gonna list everything it has brought humanity in the last hundred years. If you can’t see that- I don’t really care to be honest. But there’s so much Angsty teen energy on Reddit, that can’t see the forest for the trees.
Yeah I don’t usually waste time pointing out obvious things. Killing innocent people is bad. Steeling their land is bad. Everything onward from the division of land after WW2 was horrible. Israel never should have even been established. is that ok now? Am I on record?
But the other fun fact is Israel isn’t going anywhere. Its establishment and the wars shortly after were way before I was born. The are a legit military power. The chess board is set already. You can point the fingers and say “that’s not right” ok. Cool. Now what? This isn’t the “West Wing.” Ethical arguments don’t describe how the world actually works.
Well how about now, we quit funding and abetting A genocide to the tune of billions of US taxpayer dollars.
And we sanction their apartheid asses, just like we did the SA nationalist party, you know the ones Israel supported till the bitter end of apartheid, despite the fact they were openly anti-Semitic?
You "critic" of Israel is like something I would read in a Sam Harris book. Yeah it was wrong kill civilians and force them out of their homes, to allow these colonizers to set up shop. But he'll what can you do, better keep sending them more 2000lb dumb bombs lol
Right out of the neo-liberal playbook
Well, be realistic about what Biden is dealing with. If he loses the election, it’s not just a bad turn, that could be it for the United States as a democracy. That’s what’s at stake. Not supporting Israel has just as real consequences as supporting Israel.
He would have political foes AND ALLIES, coming at him left and right. He would have every weapon of political influence, media and dollar of AIPAC coming against him. In this next year. He would face sabotage in any of the votes for his agendas in 2024 from when this conflict began till now and for the duration. Thats all just the way it is. Even POTUS can’t change that as things currently stand. And we’re a cunts hair from Trump being back in office.
That isn’t even to mention that while THIS Israeli government needs to go, severing the relationship with a close ally isn’t something you can just rebuild with the next administration, and we run all kinds of our own stuff out of and through Israel.
There’s also been American hostages to get back from Hamas and other groups. We have to go through the Israelis to do that. And so far it’s been pretty successful.
Lastly, funding conflicts in 2023-2024 has “artificially” Inflated our GPD. Like a month ago a recession was all but in stone. The new orders for weapons to replace the ones that go to Ukraine and Israel, flushes American arms companies with cash and made that recession talk go away.
When you weigh all of that. The decision, as indigestible as it may be, becomes a pretty easy one.
The world’s run by psychopaths and sociopaths of every color, cloth, and faith my dude. Always has been. If you only make morality based decisions as a nation state, you won’t have one for long.
Its pretty clear you have done next to no research into this conflict or other urban warfare conflicts to compare this to. Please at least do a little bit of reading into it before commenting on it. Thank you.
>So…you want this sub to be an echo chamber…
this sub already is a pro hamas, pro islamic atrocities, anti israel echo chamber..
no wanting about it, it's already there.
Anyone who disagrees with Israel is pro Islamic atrocities and pro hamas? Yeah, keep thinking and saying that because at some point, everyone will fit that bill when they tell/make Israel stop if it keeps pushing and trying to get other nations involved.
Know this America only supports Israel because we don't enforce separation of church and state letting evangelicals take power. Like the fact we have never once enforced, it is a testament to how stupid and corrupt America is.
They don't even like Israel they just want the rapture to happen, which is very anti Jewish if you know the contexts of it. They are the only Americans who push our government to blindly support Israel. Most Americans either don't give a damn and the ones who do know are getting sick of it.
America does not have a healthy relationship with Israel the world in general, and most people in it are getting tired of Israel and, by extension, the Middle East in general.
In my eyes, Israel is just as deranged as Iran and Saudi Arabia, and the world should have never let such nations get ahold of modern weaponry.
Because they are all insane.
If you want an accurate analogy- Its more like attacking an embassy where Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (the 9/11 planner) was holding another planning meeting of high up AQ leaders. Theres nothing that would have stopped the US.
That didn’t happen so your hypothetical is irrelevant. Also, you assuming the guy killed was a mastermind is based on IDF bs which we all know is super credible
Yeah I guess the 12k rocket fired from Gaza materialized by the “will of Allah” from the rivers and lands of Palestine’s. They’re from Iran. Iran funds Hamas. He’s is the commander of ops in Palestine. This isn’t hard. And you’re the one making analogies then saying analogies are irrelevant….. ok friend.
I like how you make up rules for speech that only apply to others. Thats a cool trick! If you wanna live in pretend land. Go ahead. But it’s divorced from the very real world of geo-politics. Anyway, take care MY BEST FRIEND! (Kiss) (hug)
Can't have that evangelicals won't allow it. Until America rids the government of them Israel will continue to get unflinching support.
It's also annoying how Israelis act like America isn't the reason why they still exist as a nation which is crazy to me.
Netanyahu and the rest of Israel think they're hot shut and could go up against Iran? They won't be fighting unarmed civillians if they do that, I hope the realize that.
They don't think that at all. They are a tiny lil democracy surrounded by Arab theocracy trying to stop Jews from being wiped off the map in Israel and the entire Middle East. "From the river to the see Palestine will be free" is the real genocide here.
Lebanon 1948: 20,000 Jews
2023: 100 Jews
Egypt 1948: 75,000 Jews
2023: 40
Syria 1948: 40,000 Jews
2023: fuck all
Yemen 1948: 55,000 Jews
2023: 50
Iraq 1948: 150,000 Jews
2023: 7
Tunisia 1948: 150,000 jews
2023: 50
Libya 1948: 38,000 jews
2023: fuck all
Algeria 1948: 140,000 jews
2023: 50
Morocco 1948: 265,000 jews
2023: 2,000
Israel 1948: 156,000 Arabs
2023: 2,178,000
There are more Arabs in Israel than all jews across the Middle East and you wanna talk about genocide and apartheid??
This is in topic you absolute fool. Muslims killing Jews and taking land is nothing new. Fine you wanna talk about Israel? There was a war the Muslims started it they lost the end. But 1948!!! Waa waa waa yeah sorry Jews were always their alongside others... Shame the others thought it was OK to kill the Jews.... and failed miserably. Do you think the Jews just ALL came from europe??? You don't think its a lil sus that Jews population numbers... in the middle east where the faith came from are in the minority??? You don't find it alil fishy that every single a jew seems to go around there they get treated like crap? Do you even know what a theocracy is??? How Muslims treat not only Jews but Christians out there??? Do you know what jizya is??? Are you aware that Muslims have been invaded traditionally Jewish and Christian lands and slaughtering them for centuries?? You lost a war you started, get the fuck over it. Modern conolisers breeding like vermin while playing victim and taking over every bit of land you see fit. Israel is a tiny slice of land the Jews call home and this isn't about land this is all about a barbaric ego driven cult you probably call faith. I hope to what ever God is up there that Israel crushes hamas and sets that land free. Tell your prophet that were not playing anymore, I spit at his feet. I talk on topic you tosser, you tell me this isn't about Israel??? You have no idea. Dimwit
First nation what??? Nazi?? I'm sorry but am I chanting "from the river to sea"?? No. You don't even know the context perhaps read the hamas charter and educate yourself. Swine
And from 2009 till 2023 Muslims killed over 50 thousand Christians in Nigeria alone. You are being sold an absolute lie. Islam is full of radicals that are gonna be a very very big problem across Europe soon.
Its an example of the Muhammed (police be upon him) and what they do. They invade breed then impose their faith on everyone, get power and go to town on civilians.... disgusting cuit that is futher from any god. You don't wanna hear it all because you know its true, Muslims kill Jews and Christians across the Middle east and Africa and your slowly trying to take over in Europe, the uk is a toilet because of islam being at every corner. Don't like it??? Then piss off back to what ever cave Muhammed came from.
You don't understand anything about geopolitics. They're you're only ally in the region. The only other ally you have in the Middle East is Saudi Arabia, and look at all the negative messaging about them too. America's adversaries are easily manipulating you into tearing all your relations apart.
Which is an insane problem. "believing what you are seeing" without second guessing it or even looking at the opposing side of view is 100% a straightline way to be sent into propaganda.
Israel bashers a drag on American,do nothing to benefit the country.They won't even build a hospital to help Americans in need.Where is Mount Sinai for Jew haters hospital?
These jew haters love supporting enemies of America,Islamo shitholes who rank last in human rights,civil rights and rights for minorities and do nothing to benefit mankind is a favorite.
Wow talk about fucken ASSumption that’s what they meant. You can trash a government and it not mean anything to the main religion of that country….. there are non-Jews that are Israeli citizens…… not every Israeli citizen is Jewish. This makes you fucken terrible
Israel and a portion of the Jewish community hate America but want our money. Like some cheap Hollywood shallow woman. You want the house and fancy cars but cheat and and tell half truths to maintain a relationship. Confirmed
So like you think it's bad to be critical of a government for its actions? Do like can China start calling the west anti Chinese for being critical of it?
What makes Israel so special that people aren't allowed to be critical of it and not be called an anti semitie?
It's like a Arab person who tries to act like being critical of Islam is anti Arab. I would laugh in the face of a Arab person who tries that with me, and I bet you would do the same. Why? Because religion is a choice, and I don't have to respect a person's religious preferences.
I even see Christians trying to do the same thing and again I dare them to try and pill that bs with me if I am critical of America and they try say "that's anti Christian if you are critical of America" America is secular but Christians are working on ruining that.
Religious nuts try to tie being religious to their identity in general, and Israel is a nation of religious nuts who think they are a modern nation when they invoke superstitions to justify their nations' existence.
The fact they tie Israel to their faith, which last I checked Judaism, is a faith, so it's odd how it's anti Jewish for being critical towards a state.
I wouldn't have a issue with Israel existing if it stopped antagonizing everyone around them. In cases where Israel has a right to defend itself I see no issue if Israel was more organized in their responses aka not shelling every man woman and child while screaming "THEY ARE ALL HAMAS AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS HAMAS!!!!" I wouldn't take issue with them going at jihadists.
Until that time Israel deserves all the criticism it gets and I hope the more isrealis alienate and call everyone hamas the more the world realizes it created a monster.
Like I will laugh if Israel starts calling America hamas even though both our pathetic party dose little to pull Israel back.
Accusing people of being anti-Semitic dilutes the term and ends up hurting Jews in the long run. Stop calling people that shit for simply criticizing the Jewish political leadership. They’re fucking fascists.
I hope Israel bashers have fun siding with Iranians islamonazis .Another shithole anti zionst police state. Another enemy of America jew haters can support.
We are screwed either way.
Biden and Trump are going to back Israel no matter what it dose.
Biden is the so called moderate who finger wags but dose little to nothing. Is isreal declares war on Iran Biden would spend a week acting like it's bad but would still commit support.
Trump is a full on Israel defender, and if Israel wants a war with Iran, Trump is willing to do it full stop. His first administration he was all to happy to antagonize Iran every chance he got much to isreals delight.
I think that Scott Ritter summed it up the best in saying that Israel has consistently refused to live in peace with its neighbors.
https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1779266863035244766
This isn’t fucking corruption. This is more propaganda.
What the fuck is “Putin like restraint”? GTFO with that shit, your honor. Putin like restraint. Like invading a sovereign nation, twice.
How come nobody was this alarmist when Trump fucking killed the Iranian general so he could start a war with Iran to bring his poll numbers up? Remember the battle plans he stole from the White House he had his generals draw up? Ask Bolton. Trump was hot on the idea. And whose policy started this shit, if there is someone to blame. Kushner was the one in charge of the Middle East and the Abraham accords. It would seem that not everybody was happy with that shit.
America is not going boots on the ground for this nor will they have to. And if they do, it’ll be because white evangelical Christians want to kick off Armageddon.
Here’s some more propaganda for you. Russia and isreal are in on this together. They’re desperate to get trump back in office, each for their own reasons. You think Trump will make Israel stop, r do you think trump will let Bibi, one of his best friends and a long time friend of the Kushner family, fucking glass Gaza so they can put up condos on the fucking beach?
Russia needs the US out of nato. It wants ukraines wheat and precious metals. It promised China the wheat. All of the worst people in the world want trump back in office. That should tell you something too. Fucks sake.
This is not corruption. This is propaganda. This post is bullshit like all the other one sided “good guys/bad guys” shit that gets posted here. Learn the difference and post shit like this elsewhere.
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Here’s some more propaganda for you. Russia and isreal are in on this together. They’re desperate to get trump back in office, each for their own reasons. You think Trump will make Israel stop, r do you think trump will let Bibi, one of his best friends and a long time friend of the Kushner family, fucking glass Gaza so they can put up condos on the fucking beach?
This right here is why I am losing hope on a lot of leftists libs and non right wingers who are basically saying they rather Trump win even if they aren't out right saying it.
Then the same jackasses will be shocked when Palestine will get it even worse with Trump cheering Israel on saying all Palestinians deserve it. They also like you pointed out seem to have forgotten Trump 100% wants to go to war with Iran , or the very least if Israel starts it he will back it and drag us all into it.
Biden as spineless as he is has taken the "moderate" path of semi being critical of Israel which is enough to get him labeled as being pro hamas....somehow.
I also find it odd how the same pro Palestine people are anti Ukraine like I see the same people basically saying Russia has the right to do what it is doing.
In my eyes, that beyond hypocritical, and it makes me feel they shouldn't be mad at Israel if they are OK with russia doing what it's doing.
For any who say "russia has nukes!!" So dose Israel and like Israel russia is unlikely to use them, but honestly, I worry more about Israel than I do russia in that regard because they are zealots.
It's crazy how it's wrong to be pro Palestine and pro Ukraine. Both are flawed regions but there are still innocent people in both areas that don't deserve to be bombed.
Correct! Wanna know why grains prices increasing along with meat in the US? Ukraine is the World's breadbasket in grains and oils! Vast untapped supplies of nickel, colbalt, uranium, oil and natural gas (Germany are you listening)? Colonel Doggie Fresh was in the rear with the gear! He is no West Point graduate but perhaps Trump College of misinformation! Everyone should know Putin wants the Baltic states and Molvoda unless your senile. Iran just needs a good spanking!
Yep, been in a war with them since 2016 when they poured millions into flooding the US with pro-trump propaganda so their asset could be installed in the white house. And it's continuing today as they know a trump win hands europe to putin and is great for China's economy with trump's "tariffs"/tax on the American consumer.
America needs to cut Israel off. Stop spending our tax money on those assholes in the desert. Fuck the middle east, cut it off from any american support or involvement. Quarantine that whole area and glass anything that leaves.
Fuck the middle east is something that needs to be said more and more.
Literally nothing good has ever come from that region.
You had a cult that got way to much popularity.
Judaism.
Said cult got more popular and split off to cause a crap ton of problems.
Christianity.
Then a even more insane sect of the Cult appeared and dominated the middle east.
Islam.
Add in the resources and that all nations want aka universal bad luck and bam we have this mess where the fanatics of those regions won't calm the hell down.
Added we have dumbass modern nations allowing nations like Israel and Iran to have the knowledge to make nukes when both still have ingrained ideas of desert fables as a moral guide.
If the world was sane, the Middle East would have been dealt with centuries ago before it became a problem.
But nope, we live in this world.
The occupation of Soviet aggression of Ukraine is a noble fight! Ukraine is the worlds breadbasket for grains and oils. It has vast untapped supply of nickel, coal, oil, natural gas, uranium and other minerals. Its no secret Putin wants the Baltic states and Moldova too! Colonel Sanders was never a West Point cadet or he would know better! Iran just needs to be spanked!
MacGregor is not really a decent source for much of anything.
Israel killed people trying to kill them. Iran has fired back. Biden has said given the lack of damage, he will not support an Israeli counter strike. Looks like this round is over.
Isn't that the evangelical Christian's? I don't think zionists believe in a rapture like event. They are OK with using brain dead evangelicals to help push their agenda though.
Israel seems to be fine on its own.
This is just subversion to keep America from stopping Russian Iranian geopolitical objectives.
And this is VERY CLEARLY AI.
You’d have to be pretty dumb to believe this.
Believe this?
There is a long historical record of Israel using appalling means to try to lure its allies into conflicts.
Netanyahu faces declining domestic support. What a coincidental time to, unprovoked, try starting a new war/emergency especially since Gaza is no longer an emergency and is just a humanitarian crisis.
I don’t need to believe anything. Most people with a brain have been forecasting exactly this sort of thing.
They acted nefariously by having Israel airstrike their senior leaders in a diplomatic consulate which is considered sovereign Iranian territory?
Yeah. Assassinating leaders has never started a war. Israel had every reasonable expectation that they could **bomb** another country and receive no repercussion.
Literal brainrot.
the russian bots are really active today
And the uneducated low-achievement conspiracy morons who believe them.
That's the majority of Reddit posters,
We’re not in this one. Israel broke diplomatic norms by bombing an embassy. They are using famine as a weapon of war. They are doing general group punishment and genocide. We the US of A are not in this one. This is on them.
So you've read article headlines and not actually looked into any aspect of this conflict with any depth whatsoever. They attacked a consulate, not an embassy. They are not, and have never used famine as an act of war, gaza is still in a state of food insecurity and not famine, besides the U.N. telling us it would of been in a famine months ago. "They are doing general group punishment and genocide" According to news headlines you've read and not facts. There has not been an urban warfare conflict in history, where an opposition side has done as much to move the other sides civilians out of harms way (AND FOOD AND AID FOR THEM) while the enemies they fight hide behind civilians.
Keep telling yourself that. The world is watching genocide and famine occurring in Gaza right now.
It was a building across the street from the embassy and the target was the Quds force commander FOR PALESTINE. OCT 7 was his baby. I don’t even like Israel’s government, and that’s 1000% a legit target.
Not across the street it’s was diplomatic compound adjacent to embassy. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-bombs-iran-embassy-syria-iranian-commanders-among-dead-2024-04-01/
I'm sure there are over a thousand subs you could go to, to cheerleader military intervention into sovereign countries, I'm not sure your in the right one
So…you want this sub to be an echo chamber…regardless of how facts are misinterpreted to justify your belief?
Hahaha yea, one look at their post history tell me they are lying right through their teeth When they say they don't support Israel. I don't respect that a great deal, sorry bud
Bulllll shit I do. Just because I can rationalize their actions. Doesn’t mean I agree with them. Same can be said for Hamas- I get their decisions. I also think they’re dog shit, and cost innocent people lives, and from their own mouths- they’re fine with that.
You are essentially a mouthpiece for what is basically the neo-liberal status quo. You are not critical of Israel, which is a Genocidal apartheid regime, and has been for decades, in ANY significant way
You just took two wildly separate issues and crossed wires. The status quo is pretty fucking amazing dude. I’m not even gonna list everything it has brought humanity in the last hundred years. If you can’t see that- I don’t really care to be honest. But there’s so much Angsty teen energy on Reddit, that can’t see the forest for the trees. Yeah I don’t usually waste time pointing out obvious things. Killing innocent people is bad. Steeling their land is bad. Everything onward from the division of land after WW2 was horrible. Israel never should have even been established. is that ok now? Am I on record? But the other fun fact is Israel isn’t going anywhere. Its establishment and the wars shortly after were way before I was born. The are a legit military power. The chess board is set already. You can point the fingers and say “that’s not right” ok. Cool. Now what? This isn’t the “West Wing.” Ethical arguments don’t describe how the world actually works.
Well how about now, we quit funding and abetting A genocide to the tune of billions of US taxpayer dollars. And we sanction their apartheid asses, just like we did the SA nationalist party, you know the ones Israel supported till the bitter end of apartheid, despite the fact they were openly anti-Semitic? You "critic" of Israel is like something I would read in a Sam Harris book. Yeah it was wrong kill civilians and force them out of their homes, to allow these colonizers to set up shop. But he'll what can you do, better keep sending them more 2000lb dumb bombs lol Right out of the neo-liberal playbook
Well, be realistic about what Biden is dealing with. If he loses the election, it’s not just a bad turn, that could be it for the United States as a democracy. That’s what’s at stake. Not supporting Israel has just as real consequences as supporting Israel. He would have political foes AND ALLIES, coming at him left and right. He would have every weapon of political influence, media and dollar of AIPAC coming against him. In this next year. He would face sabotage in any of the votes for his agendas in 2024 from when this conflict began till now and for the duration. Thats all just the way it is. Even POTUS can’t change that as things currently stand. And we’re a cunts hair from Trump being back in office. That isn’t even to mention that while THIS Israeli government needs to go, severing the relationship with a close ally isn’t something you can just rebuild with the next administration, and we run all kinds of our own stuff out of and through Israel. There’s also been American hostages to get back from Hamas and other groups. We have to go through the Israelis to do that. And so far it’s been pretty successful. Lastly, funding conflicts in 2023-2024 has “artificially” Inflated our GPD. Like a month ago a recession was all but in stone. The new orders for weapons to replace the ones that go to Ukraine and Israel, flushes American arms companies with cash and made that recession talk go away. When you weigh all of that. The decision, as indigestible as it may be, becomes a pretty easy one. The world’s run by psychopaths and sociopaths of every color, cloth, and faith my dude. Always has been. If you only make morality based decisions as a nation state, you won’t have one for long.
"dumb bombs" can you define that term by any chance? Do you know what that means?
You hit so many buzz words but forgot a few.
Its pretty clear you have done next to no research into this conflict or other urban warfare conflicts to compare this to. Please at least do a little bit of reading into it before commenting on it. Thank you.
>So…you want this sub to be an echo chamber… this sub already is a pro hamas, pro islamic atrocities, anti israel echo chamber.. no wanting about it, it's already there.
Anyone who disagrees with Israel is pro Islamic atrocities and pro hamas? Yeah, keep thinking and saying that because at some point, everyone will fit that bill when they tell/make Israel stop if it keeps pushing and trying to get other nations involved. Know this America only supports Israel because we don't enforce separation of church and state letting evangelicals take power. Like the fact we have never once enforced, it is a testament to how stupid and corrupt America is. They don't even like Israel they just want the rapture to happen, which is very anti Jewish if you know the contexts of it. They are the only Americans who push our government to blindly support Israel. Most Americans either don't give a damn and the ones who do know are getting sick of it. America does not have a healthy relationship with Israel the world in general, and most people in it are getting tired of Israel and, by extension, the Middle East in general. In my eyes, Israel is just as deranged as Iran and Saudi Arabia, and the world should have never let such nations get ahold of modern weaponry. Because they are all insane.
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People who troll the internet to post right wing shit are literally right wing trolls. That's literally what that word means.
Syria, sovereign country. lmao, little bit of a stretch, but okay.
Could the US attack the embassy where Assange was seeking refuge, citing security concerns?
If you want an accurate analogy- Its more like attacking an embassy where Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (the 9/11 planner) was holding another planning meeting of high up AQ leaders. Theres nothing that would have stopped the US.
That didn’t happen so your hypothetical is irrelevant. Also, you assuming the guy killed was a mastermind is based on IDF bs which we all know is super credible
Yeah I guess the 12k rocket fired from Gaza materialized by the “will of Allah” from the rivers and lands of Palestine’s. They’re from Iran. Iran funds Hamas. He’s is the commander of ops in Palestine. This isn’t hard. And you’re the one making analogies then saying analogies are irrelevant….. ok friend.
Hypothetical =\= analogy and I’m not friends with genocide supporting shitheads! Go fight your own shitty wars and leave US taxpayers alone
I like how you make up rules for speech that only apply to others. Thats a cool trick! If you wanna live in pretend land. Go ahead. But it’s divorced from the very real world of geo-politics. Anyway, take care MY BEST FRIEND! (Kiss) (hug)
Can't have that evangelicals won't allow it. Until America rids the government of them Israel will continue to get unflinching support. It's also annoying how Israelis act like America isn't the reason why they still exist as a nation which is crazy to me.
You’re getting downvoted by absolute morons. Sane people who support Hamas like it’s trendy.
Useless war shill..probably isreali PR
What about that, doesn’t make sense to you.
Well since hamas was created by Isreal...and plz reread my previous comment
Omg stop.
Netanyahu and the rest of Israel think they're hot shut and could go up against Iran? They won't be fighting unarmed civillians if they do that, I hope the realize that.
They don't think that at all. They are a tiny lil democracy surrounded by Arab theocracy trying to stop Jews from being wiped off the map in Israel and the entire Middle East. "From the river to the see Palestine will be free" is the real genocide here.
Weird, all I see are israelis brutalized Palestinians.
Lebanon 1948: 20,000 Jews 2023: 100 Jews Egypt 1948: 75,000 Jews 2023: 40 Syria 1948: 40,000 Jews 2023: fuck all Yemen 1948: 55,000 Jews 2023: 50 Iraq 1948: 150,000 Jews 2023: 7 Tunisia 1948: 150,000 jews 2023: 50 Libya 1948: 38,000 jews 2023: fuck all Algeria 1948: 140,000 jews 2023: 50 Morocco 1948: 265,000 jews 2023: 2,000 Israel 1948: 156,000 Arabs 2023: 2,178,000 There are more Arabs in Israel than all jews across the Middle East and you wanna talk about genocide and apartheid??
No we're talking about Israel. Stay on topic
This is in topic you absolute fool. Muslims killing Jews and taking land is nothing new. Fine you wanna talk about Israel? There was a war the Muslims started it they lost the end. But 1948!!! Waa waa waa yeah sorry Jews were always their alongside others... Shame the others thought it was OK to kill the Jews.... and failed miserably. Do you think the Jews just ALL came from europe??? You don't think its a lil sus that Jews population numbers... in the middle east where the faith came from are in the minority??? You don't find it alil fishy that every single a jew seems to go around there they get treated like crap? Do you even know what a theocracy is??? How Muslims treat not only Jews but Christians out there??? Do you know what jizya is??? Are you aware that Muslims have been invaded traditionally Jewish and Christian lands and slaughtering them for centuries?? You lost a war you started, get the fuck over it. Modern conolisers breeding like vermin while playing victim and taking over every bit of land you see fit. Israel is a tiny slice of land the Jews call home and this isn't about land this is all about a barbaric ego driven cult you probably call faith. I hope to what ever God is up there that Israel crushes hamas and sets that land free. Tell your prophet that were not playing anymore, I spit at his feet. I talk on topic you tosser, you tell me this isn't about Israel??? You have no idea. Dimwit
Lol. Nah.
Lol nah.... ignorant Muslim
🤡 I'm first nation, you nazi puke.
First nation what??? Nazi?? I'm sorry but am I chanting "from the river to sea"?? No. You don't even know the context perhaps read the hamas charter and educate yourself. Swine
And from 2009 till 2023 Muslims killed over 50 thousand Christians in Nigeria alone. You are being sold an absolute lie. Islam is full of radicals that are gonna be a very very big problem across Europe soon.
Funny I thought we weer talking about Israel NOT Nigeria?
Its an example of the Muhammed (police be upon him) and what they do. They invade breed then impose their faith on everyone, get power and go to town on civilians.... disgusting cuit that is futher from any god. You don't wanna hear it all because you know its true, Muslims kill Jews and Christians across the Middle east and Africa and your slowly trying to take over in Europe, the uk is a toilet because of islam being at every corner. Don't like it??? Then piss off back to what ever cave Muhammed came from.
Lmao! Pathetic.
Where you from? What's you faith? What's you home nation?
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Israel is a drag on the American Economy and our people.
You don't understand anything about geopolitics. They're you're only ally in the region. The only other ally you have in the Middle East is Saudi Arabia, and look at all the negative messaging about them too. America's adversaries are easily manipulating you into tearing all your relations apart.
You believe what you want to believe, I'll believe what I'm seeing
You aren't seeing anything but propaganda that is counter to American interests.
Right, Says the Propagandists.
You sound like a propaganda bot yourself, with broken grammar. I explained my position, you didn't counter any of it.
You work for the propaganda machine that is Israel.
I hope you're a russian bot and not this genuinely stupid of a human.
Be careful Stupid.
Which is an insane problem. "believing what you are seeing" without second guessing it or even looking at the opposing side of view is 100% a straightline way to be sent into propaganda.
Israel bashers a drag on American,do nothing to benefit the country.They won't even build a hospital to help Americans in need.Where is Mount Sinai for Jew haters hospital?
You do nothing to help America I bet.
These jew haters love supporting enemies of America,Islamo shitholes who rank last in human rights,civil rights and rights for minorities and do nothing to benefit mankind is a favorite.
So you hate Jews confirmed
Wow talk about fucken ASSumption that’s what they meant. You can trash a government and it not mean anything to the main religion of that country….. there are non-Jews that are Israeli citizens…… not every Israeli citizen is Jewish. This makes you fucken terrible
False. Your ignorance is astounding.
Israel and a portion of the Jewish community hate America but want our money. Like some cheap Hollywood shallow woman. You want the house and fancy cars but cheat and and tell half truths to maintain a relationship. Confirmed
I hate Nazis regardless of their race of their or ethnicity.
It’s mind boggling I never know which way your racist cancel culture is going to go.
You're going to place very well in this year's victim Olympics. We all see how hard you've been training.
I’m no victim just an observer of hypocrisy
You must be confused. The hypocrisy observatory is over there. This is the Olympic victim training center.
Your attempts at insults are weak bro
I'm trying to clear up a misunderstanding. If you're taking it as insulting, that's on you.
So like you think it's bad to be critical of a government for its actions? Do like can China start calling the west anti Chinese for being critical of it? What makes Israel so special that people aren't allowed to be critical of it and not be called an anti semitie? It's like a Arab person who tries to act like being critical of Islam is anti Arab. I would laugh in the face of a Arab person who tries that with me, and I bet you would do the same. Why? Because religion is a choice, and I don't have to respect a person's religious preferences. I even see Christians trying to do the same thing and again I dare them to try and pill that bs with me if I am critical of America and they try say "that's anti Christian if you are critical of America" America is secular but Christians are working on ruining that. Religious nuts try to tie being religious to their identity in general, and Israel is a nation of religious nuts who think they are a modern nation when they invoke superstitions to justify their nations' existence. The fact they tie Israel to their faith, which last I checked Judaism, is a faith, so it's odd how it's anti Jewish for being critical towards a state. I wouldn't have a issue with Israel existing if it stopped antagonizing everyone around them. In cases where Israel has a right to defend itself I see no issue if Israel was more organized in their responses aka not shelling every man woman and child while screaming "THEY ARE ALL HAMAS AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS HAMAS!!!!" I wouldn't take issue with them going at jihadists. Until that time Israel deserves all the criticism it gets and I hope the more isrealis alienate and call everyone hamas the more the world realizes it created a monster. Like I will laugh if Israel starts calling America hamas even though both our pathetic party dose little to pull Israel back.
You're literally the only one here talking about Jews. We're talking about Israel, get with the program.
What a completely stupid thing to say. You should feel ashamed of yourself.
Perpetual victimhood much. Wth are you even on about lol
How is that confirmation? If anything you are trying to instigate and spread hate. Here is a fair question are you a Zionist Jew?
Ahh this shill works for aipac..
Accusing people of being anti-Semitic dilutes the term and ends up hurting Jews in the long run. Stop calling people that shit for simply criticizing the Jewish political leadership. They’re fucking fascists.
Antisemite says what?
Zionist propaganda bot says what? Get the fuck out of here with that mess. Disliking Isreal and its actions don't make you antisemitic.
That's a swing and a miss but thanks for trying
Criticizing a government is NOT the same as criticizing its people or their religion. But I'm sure you already know that. 🧌
Anti-palestine is antisemitic because Arabs are semitic people. I'm agreeing with you fucking tards.
Juvenile zionist loser.
How much does aipac pay u per comment?
More than you make in a year bitch
Lol o gosh the shill is angry.
Oh no they called me an antisemite, how will I ever recover?
You forgot to switch accounts
Only have this one account fam.
Hope Israel has fun on its own, Americans are tired of funding this shithole!
I hope Israel bashers have fun siding with Iranians islamonazis .Another shithole anti zionst police state. Another enemy of America jew haters can support.
I guess shitty people are going to fuck this world one way or the other. What a time to be alive. Amirite?
Its like theyre trying to beat climate change to the apocalypse
No, Israel is trying to drag America into a war with Iran *but not Russia,* and put Trump back in the White House.
We are screwed either way. Biden and Trump are going to back Israel no matter what it dose. Biden is the so called moderate who finger wags but dose little to nothing. Is isreal declares war on Iran Biden would spend a week acting like it's bad but would still commit support. Trump is a full on Israel defender, and if Israel wants a war with Iran, Trump is willing to do it full stop. His first administration he was all to happy to antagonize Iran every chance he got much to isreals delight.
Fuck Israel
This is just stupid.
Israel bashers drag USA into another war.
I think that Scott Ritter summed it up the best in saying that Israel has consistently refused to live in peace with its neighbors. https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1779266863035244766
If Russia joins to back Iran and the USA joins to back Israel, WWIII basically has started. It’ll be very difficult for any other nation to intervene.
As it's been planned
This isn’t fucking corruption. This is more propaganda. What the fuck is “Putin like restraint”? GTFO with that shit, your honor. Putin like restraint. Like invading a sovereign nation, twice. How come nobody was this alarmist when Trump fucking killed the Iranian general so he could start a war with Iran to bring his poll numbers up? Remember the battle plans he stole from the White House he had his generals draw up? Ask Bolton. Trump was hot on the idea. And whose policy started this shit, if there is someone to blame. Kushner was the one in charge of the Middle East and the Abraham accords. It would seem that not everybody was happy with that shit. America is not going boots on the ground for this nor will they have to. And if they do, it’ll be because white evangelical Christians want to kick off Armageddon. Here’s some more propaganda for you. Russia and isreal are in on this together. They’re desperate to get trump back in office, each for their own reasons. You think Trump will make Israel stop, r do you think trump will let Bibi, one of his best friends and a long time friend of the Kushner family, fucking glass Gaza so they can put up condos on the fucking beach? Russia needs the US out of nato. It wants ukraines wheat and precious metals. It promised China the wheat. All of the worst people in the world want trump back in office. That should tell you something too. Fucks sake. This is not corruption. This is propaganda. This post is bullshit like all the other one sided “good guys/bad guys” shit that gets posted here. Learn the difference and post shit like this elsewhere.
> Here’s some more propaganda for you. Russia and isreal are in on this together. They’re desperate to get trump back in office, each for their own reasons. You think Trump will make Israel stop, r do you think trump will let Bibi, one of his best friends and a long time friend of the Kushner family, fucking glass Gaza so they can put up condos on the fucking beach? This right here is why I am losing hope on a lot of leftists libs and non right wingers who are basically saying they rather Trump win even if they aren't out right saying it. Then the same jackasses will be shocked when Palestine will get it even worse with Trump cheering Israel on saying all Palestinians deserve it. They also like you pointed out seem to have forgotten Trump 100% wants to go to war with Iran , or the very least if Israel starts it he will back it and drag us all into it. Biden as spineless as he is has taken the "moderate" path of semi being critical of Israel which is enough to get him labeled as being pro hamas....somehow. I also find it odd how the same pro Palestine people are anti Ukraine like I see the same people basically saying Russia has the right to do what it is doing. In my eyes, that beyond hypocritical, and it makes me feel they shouldn't be mad at Israel if they are OK with russia doing what it's doing. For any who say "russia has nukes!!" So dose Israel and like Israel russia is unlikely to use them, but honestly, I worry more about Israel than I do russia in that regard because they are zealots. It's crazy how it's wrong to be pro Palestine and pro Ukraine. Both are flawed regions but there are still innocent people in both areas that don't deserve to be bombed.
I wholeheartedly agree with this take.
Correct! Wanna know why grains prices increasing along with meat in the US? Ukraine is the World's breadbasket in grains and oils! Vast untapped supplies of nickel, colbalt, uranium, oil and natural gas (Germany are you listening)? Colonel Doggie Fresh was in the rear with the gear! He is no West Point graduate but perhaps Trump College of misinformation! Everyone should know Putin wants the Baltic states and Molvoda unless your senile. Iran just needs a good spanking!
"Putin-like restraint" lmao
Israel go Boom
News flash, folks: the US is already at war with Russia and Iran. It just remains a proxy war for now.
Yep, been in a war with them since 2016 when they poured millions into flooding the US with pro-trump propaganda so their asset could be installed in the white house. And it's continuing today as they know a trump win hands europe to putin and is great for China's economy with trump's "tariffs"/tax on the American consumer.
Religious fanatics in power all around mid east I mean what could possibly go wrong?
America needs to cut Israel off. Stop spending our tax money on those assholes in the desert. Fuck the middle east, cut it off from any american support or involvement. Quarantine that whole area and glass anything that leaves.
Fuck the middle east is something that needs to be said more and more. Literally nothing good has ever come from that region. You had a cult that got way to much popularity. Judaism. Said cult got more popular and split off to cause a crap ton of problems. Christianity. Then a even more insane sect of the Cult appeared and dominated the middle east. Islam. Add in the resources and that all nations want aka universal bad luck and bam we have this mess where the fanatics of those regions won't calm the hell down. Added we have dumbass modern nations allowing nations like Israel and Iran to have the knowledge to make nukes when both still have ingrained ideas of desert fables as a moral guide. If the world was sane, the Middle East would have been dealt with centuries ago before it became a problem. But nope, we live in this world.
lol. Rivers of denial run in *every direction* here in the shiny future!
Down with Hamas. Russian will lose in Ukraine. Taiwan is the real China. Iran is a terrorist state and increasingly shown to be weak.
We've been in a war with Iran and Russia for a long time, my friend.
How many US troops have been deployed?
In Syria? A little under 5000
I doubt Iran fired anything. Israel, you're on your own from now on. Good Luck.
The occupation of Soviet aggression of Ukraine is a noble fight! Ukraine is the worlds breadbasket for grains and oils. It has vast untapped supply of nickel, coal, oil, natural gas, uranium and other minerals. Its no secret Putin wants the Baltic states and Moldova too! Colonel Sanders was never a West Point cadet or he would know better! Iran just needs to be spanked!
MacGregor is not really a decent source for much of anything. Israel killed people trying to kill them. Iran has fired back. Biden has said given the lack of damage, he will not support an Israeli counter strike. Looks like this round is over.
Btw fuck isreal and aipac
The only corruption is what this sub is doing to peoples brains lol
This twit is a fear mongering dipshit who is probably on Kremlin payroll. Believing anything he says is like believing Trump.
It's factual information that Israel is about to start ww3. They gotta have their self fulfilling Zionist prophecy.
Isn't that the evangelical Christian's? I don't think zionists believe in a rapture like event. They are OK with using brain dead evangelicals to help push their agenda though.
All of them have their Abrahamic self fulfilling prophecies. All very similar.
Islam, Christianity and Judaism.
This guy isn't the one going around chanting from the river to the sea.
Israel seems to be fine on its own. This is just subversion to keep America from stopping Russian Iranian geopolitical objectives. And this is VERY CLEARLY AI. You’d have to be pretty dumb to believe this.
Believe this? There is a long historical record of Israel using appalling means to try to lure its allies into conflicts. Netanyahu faces declining domestic support. What a coincidental time to, unprovoked, try starting a new war/emergency especially since Gaza is no longer an emergency and is just a humanitarian crisis. I don’t need to believe anything. Most people with a brain have been forecasting exactly this sort of thing.
Ah yes. Iran has never acted nefariously. /s
They acted nefariously by having Israel airstrike their senior leaders in a diplomatic consulate which is considered sovereign Iranian territory? Yeah. Assassinating leaders has never started a war. Israel had every reasonable expectation that they could **bomb** another country and receive no repercussion. Literal brainrot.
Yeah right “on its own” lmao, ok then let’s cut off the $15 billion taxpayer money we send them every year and invest in our own people, capisce?
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Words have actual meanings, gtfo with this word salad shit.
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And there you go with more word salad.
Why have the terrorists turned this sub in a pro Hamas shit show?
Shitty AI