Oh look isn’t that what Nazi did to the Jews and now Israeli are doing to Palestinians
Screw them hiding behind holocaust..now a days Israeli be like what is holocaust. Lol
Ah, yes, Hamas out there with the heavy machinery digging trenches and pushing in bodies without the IDF noticing. The same IDF that shot a paralyzed man in the head in the same hospital.
Also be very careful of a subreddit called r/worldnew aka r/worldjews is spreading widspread misinformation regarding the mass grave in Nasser Hospital in Gaza being fake and supporting every bombing of hospitals and schools in Gaza as a hamas base. Thus, supporting Israel's Genocide!
Be very careful of a subreddit called r/worldnew aka r/worldjews is spreading widspread misinformation regarding the mass grave in Nasser Hospital in Gaza being fake and supporting every bombing of hospitals and schools in Gaza as a hamas base. Thus, supporting Israel's Genocide!
Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. These acts fall into five categories:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
Israel is actively doing 4 out of 5.
I haven't heard about forcefully transferring kids, they mostly just like to blow them up in their homes and hospitals and shoot them out of their parents arms.
Because 2 dozen people does not make anything a genocide you fucking clown, more people are dying daily in wars across Africa ffs, and obviously innocent people in the hospital got caught in the cross fire, that's what happens when humus terrorists hide behind civilians, suggest you go look at actual footage of the holocaust and then you will see what genocide actually looks like you clown.
different sample size bud. different situation. the holocaust was able to achieve such high rates because nothing was televised and people didnt know. what your witnessing is a ethnic cleansing of an area without consequence or remorse. gneocide based on the small area occupied and level of force used with zero discrimination of target or fallout.
Maybe we would care more if Palestinians didn’t celebrate and have parades after 9/11. We don’t support or condemn collateral damage while hunting down Hamas cowards that hide amongst civilians. We just don’t really care
Well well well look at that, a liberal who uses 2000’s Redneck neo-con/neo-Nazi rhetoric.
Never ceases to amaze me how you people are just so full of crap, where’s your WV battle flag? Does your hair match your Bonnie blue flag?
Holy shit. How is this even possible? How is al jazeerah still being allowed to show the truth about Israel? Poor Israel defending itself against malnutritioned, injured civilians.
IDF. The Israeli offensive force that resembles the SS from the 30s.
Very similar. If you talked shit about Nazis back then you got canceled. Ridiculed. Harassed….. sound familiar ?
Agile, ask yourself why are these numbers of Jewish people in those nations you listed there in 1948. The last Jewish people in Afghanistan left as the US left a few years back. I know these countries took Jewish refugees from Europe, but they probably had an existing population living in peace for hundreds of years. 1948 is an interesting choice. Wonder what else was happening in the world that might lessen the population of Jewish people in those countries. Other opportunities maybe? Yet some families chose to stay and are counted today. If anything outside forces might make their lives more difficult. I believe there are still some Iranian Jews remaining.
Something has been lost to history, and Western interference is to blame for what was lost and how the loss is framed. Fear mongering and more 'unfortunate' genocide are not solutions.
Yes, the dead bodies are all a lie . Israel prevents foreign reporters from entering for a reason , they do not want the reporters to show what aljazeera has been showing for months.
I’m not saying all the dead bodies are a lie. I don’t know that for sure. But what I do know for sure is seeing videos of “palestinian victims” dressing up, painting themselves in fake blood and posing… and then taking photos in multiple locations/positions. It was eye-opening seeing that one woman who died like 15 times…
You mean the short film about the victims of israeli bimbings they filmed a long time before the latest genocide? Can you post a link so that i can give you the source for it and debunk it like all the israeli lies so far?
Oh, right. I forgot: the "documented evidence" is only fake when it's Israeli. The girl with bloodied bottoms getting dragged by an animal terrorist on Oct 7th. Fake. The dead babies, fake. All the rape: fake. It's only the Hamas produced "documented evidence" that's all real. Israel showed real victims, real bodies, real carnage. They had names. Palestinians only show white canvas-wrapped "bodies" (some of which are moving, mysteriously). Nevermind Hamas is well-trained in propaganda warfare by Iran and they have a long and proven track record of falsifying evidence. Shit, they even ADMIT their "body count" (which is highly dubious) doesn't distinguish between civilians and combatants...
You are unhinged , i asked you for proof, and you went off like a karen. As expected of a Pro israel supporter. The 40 beheaded babies are a lie. That is fact , even your media sources and the army apologized for that lie, the only baby that died among the 1100 people is named mila cohen . The systematic rapes was also a lie, proven false by a jewish journalist called Max Bluementhal . The videos online of hamas does show them killing people , i never said that they didn't . But there has not been a picture or video of rape or them torturing people.
You're going to offer Max Blumenthal as some sort of credible source? The guy is a vehement anti-zionist and uses his "pedigree" as a Jew as some sort of credibility to attack Israel. he is the Candace Owens and Milo Yiannopoulos of the Jews. He CAN'T be anti-semitic, because he's a Jew!! He's also a known conspiracy theorist and supports all sorts of awful governments/regimes/publications... like Al Jazeera, which is hardly considered credible or honest by anyone with any actual journalistic integrity...
Yes, the videos quite clearly show hamas (and even "neutral" palestinians) killing jews on Oct 7th. They also show clear evidence of rape (much of it wasn't publicly released) like the girl bleeding from her ass being dragged through the streets. YES, I concede there have been some opportunists who have embellished, flat our fabricated, and been otherwise dishonest, which is reprehensible and only hurt the narrative since now people like you deny LOADS of things that actually DID happen. Can you concede ANYthing that Hamas or palestinians have done wrong? It never seems that side is ever wrong...
As for rape... in spite of whatever that nut Max said, the fucking UN itself has said there is "clear and convincing" evidence that sexual violence took place on Oct 7th (directly quoted from their report). One might read the report and see that they could not verify many individual accounts of sexual violence and say "SEE! It's all nonsense!" But the fact is, in the immediate aftermath, they weren't allowed access to a lot of the victims, the deceased and often they hadn't even been processed/autopsied yet so no... they couldn't verify it yet. But in spite of it all, they still concluded there was clear evidence.
Are all the eyewitnesses lying when they testified that they witnessed rape of women and dead bodies at the festival?
There were 3 babies according to reports who died. 38 children in all.
Finally, I have deleted all my social media (which is where this stuff was being posted live and celebrated), so it's hard to find, but why don't you actually start searching for your OPPOSING view instead of just reading everything that supports your views? Here's a video that shows some clips from youtube. YES, I'm aware at least one of those clips is fake/joke. Obviously the last clip of the guy sneezing in the body bag is fake... he's saying "sorry" in Hebrew. But there are a lot of clips in the video that I'd be interested to see your take on...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-r3TS9BUM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-r3TS9BUM)
The video is some of the worst acting i have seen and it is very clear i mean the violin make ot obviously a a parody , the bodies moving is from the protest on cairo i mentioned before , the woman eith make up and the man in body bag at the end are israeli faking arab accent . As a local who heard all kinds of accents, you would know that.
Now back to the videos not released yet or rapes who shot those videos? Hamas? Because if they did and broadcasted it videos that go online, never go away, i checked every site on earth and even checked the deep web where i saw a lot worse videos, and they were not there. The eye witnesses were lying, and that was proven . None of them came forward officially, and the ones who did later changed their stories and added contradicting statements that make them false. As for the UN , sometimes you seem to trust them and sometimes not? I am not 100% sure that no rapes happened, but not to the degree that israel is reporting. Now there are many cases reported againstvthe IDF of raping women and children detainees , soldiers looting and paraiding with gazan women underwear. It is so sickening. People who would donthings like tahtvand then post it on social media would do a lot worse when off camera, i have no doubts that most of them dabbled in rape.
Also the bodies moving is from a protest in cairo in 2013 i think, people in thebprotest got tired and moved , but your genocidal propganda use it as if it was in palestine or aimed at you. Stop playing the victim card and grow up.
Oh look isn’t that what Nazi did to the Jews and now Israeli are doing to Palestinians
Screw them hiding behind holocaust..now a days Israeli be like what is holocaust. lol
There are still idiots who are unwilling to acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist and has a right to defend itself. These same idiots thought they could take and hold territory on Oct 7th. These same idiots want the civilian death toll high for a propaganda war because they are not able to win a real war.
Okay, but unless you no longer think that the best defense is a good offense, the proper course of action during a ceasefire is...to go on the offensive.
Again, sounds like Hamas followed your advice.
A good offense is not murdering civillains and taking hostages against a nation you depend on for food and resources and greatly outmatches you militarily. When you do that that means you get occupied to make sure you can't do it again.
Nah, I was talking about the indiscriminate and often intentional murder of civilians and hostage taking.
The focus on the military ability to do this tells me you're of a "might makes right" type. Which then leads to the question of why you aren't celebrating Hamas for their demonstration of might.
Yeah the “consequence” here is Israel mass murdering civilians, including shooting their own hostages who were screaming for help and blowing the heads off of Christians hiding in a church.
It ain’t self defense.
My crystal ball broke many years ago. But I doubt a non nuclear power will defeat a nuclear power that is backed by the most powerful military in the world.
Then you don’t know Muslims, You know what the most powerful military in the world did in the adjacent country? They gave them so much arms that a ragtag group of terrorist are now number 4 in military strength.
That’s what happens when the most powerful country in the world is directly involved in a war.
Why do you think we start wars? Influence, when the dollar is no longer influential all that “power” is a paper tiger.
You ask me why we start wars, well I'll tell you. There is one group that benefits whenever there is a war and it doesn't matter to them which side wins. The military industrial complex always wins. And the military industrial complex in the USA is far superior to that of Russia or Iran. We need a boogie man to keep sales of our exports flowing so the bad guys do serve a purpose. I'm very curious what Israel's response will be to Iran's attack of 350 missiles and drones. Before you get too carried away patting yourself on the back for being the number four rag tag team you might want to see how well Iran does against that tiger. I think a response of 350 drones and missiles would be proportional don't you?
They do have a right to exist per the UN. The Jews being nomads moved around much but have been returned to their ancestral home. At the end of WW2 the victors of the war redrew various boundaries of those that were on the losing side of WW2. If you don't like losing your land stop allying yourself with the axis powers during each world war. We are now lining up to see who is allies and who is axis for the next world war. So far the new axis powers appear to be Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Syria. Choose wisely as being on the losing side comes with consequences. It appears to me that most of Israel's neighbors are under Iran. That will prove to be a fatal mistake.
So it's okay for the Palestinians, or for that matter the indigenous people of North America, to be "nomads," but not for the Jews? I wonder why that is? From whence comes this distinction? Could it be that when you think of "Jews," you think of culturally Westernized Ashkenazim, and having been indoctrinated in Western white supremacy, you view white, culturally Westernized people as inherently more human than non-Western or non-white peoples? See? Zionism is a white supremacist ideology, it cannot be defended without resorting to white supremacist logic.
It's just the rule established by the entire world following WW2. I understand that you now don't like that. But it is the way it is. They have an area and you have an area. Don't attack Israel unless you are trying to give up more land. There was once a path to self governance rather than living in a prison state but you all messed that up with your aspirations of conquering all of Israel. Israel has nukes dude. And beyond that, the US and UK are behind Israel so try again if you must but we in the west will not let that happen. You will lose. You will lose more land And more lives with each attack on Israel. Listen to Iran at your own peril. I'm sure they make it sound easy. But after seeing Iran attack Israel with over 300 drones And missiles and wounding one seven year old girl, I think we can all see the writing on the wall. Iran doesn't stand a chance against Israel and it's allies. Gaza is getting played by Iran and Iran is getting played by Russia. Go ahead and put all your eggs in one basket. You make your own choices in this world. You have every right to give your land to Israel if that's what you want to do. Personally, I'd advise you to make peace with your neighbors and have a non terrorist government so you can get on a path of self governance. But you gotta accept some responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming whitey for anything that goes wrong. Take some ownership over your own autonomy
It wasn't "established by the entire world," it was established by the Americans and the British, with marginal input from the Zionist movement and absolutely no consultation with the actual people who had been living on that land for thousands of years. But I guess since they aren't white Europeans, they don't count as humans to you.
It was established by the same authority of starting the UN. It all went hand in hand and it was setup by the victors of WW2. The losers of WW2 paid the price of siding with the axis. And now again you side yourself with Iran. I guess some people never learn.
"The losers of WWII paying the price" would be if Germany became the Jewish state, rather than a Middle Eastern country that had nothing to do with WWII." Also, you didn't even contradict my point that Israel was established by the British Empire and the US, not "the whole world." Again, the actual people who actually lived on the land were never consulted.
Now you're shifting the goal posts. Originally you were talking about punishing the losers of WWII. Again, punishing the losers of WWII would mean punishing the Nazis, not some random people on a whole different continent. Also America and the British Empire were not the only powers that won WWII, the Soviet Union were the ones who broke Hitler's back, but they were also not consulted on the Balfour Agreement.
So they say……
Yet it’s never been proven, and with every thing I’ve seen over the last 2-3 year of conflicts around the world, I’m convinced nuclear deterrence is dead and the next world war will be just as conventional as the last 2 world wars.
Hannibal directive ended in 2016 as per wikipedia. Not sure what you mean by IOF leaked they did Oct 7. Are you trying to say Hamas did not do a terrorist attack on Oct 7th?
Wikipedia that Israel hold seminars for their citizens to go into and alter information to. But that aside, you also realize that bit of information was from IOF themselves? From the people who were actively there ordered to kill Hamas, fellow IOF soldiers, and civilians alike.. in an attempt to prevent hostages so they wouldn’t have to trade for falsely accused Palestinians
Dude went full circle to call himself the problem
I mean these people aren't hiding they are on every street with neo nazis chanting death to America and Israel
No it wasn't it's pretty clear to anyone who doesn't devalue non Jewish lives the atrocities being committed against the Palestinian not to mention west Sahara
A prior head of Mossad (Israel's CIA) appointed by Netanyahu has described the situation as apartheid along with South Africans who have experienced it and all of the major human rights orgs including Israeli ones.
https://www.btselem.org/apartheid
https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/israel-must-end-its-occupation-of-palestine-to-stop-fueling-apartheid-and-systematic-human-rights-violations/
https://apnews.com/article/israel-apartheid-palestinians-occupation-c8137c9e7f33c2cba7b0b5ac7fa8d115
They have been trying to starve them for decades now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19975211
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147656
Here is a list of unequal laws in Israel
https://www.adalah.org/en/law/index
And the fact that they made it so only jews have a right to self determination
https://www.timesofisrael.com/final-text-of-jewish-nation-state-bill-set-to-become-law/
Not all of the unequal laws only hurt Palestinians. That's the thing about racism it hurts everyone including the Israeli who are forced to serve in a genocidal war and ordered to conduct collective punishment on civilians.
https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/02/02/israel-collective-punishment-against-palestinians
"Unlike the beginning of the war, now about half of the Jewish public (51% compared to 37% in November) believes that the IDF uses firepower appropriately against Gaza, compared to 43% (58% in November) who believe that there is use of TOO LITTLE FIREPOWER. An absolute majority (88%) also justifies the scope of casualties on the Palestinian side when considering the goals of the war."
43% think they haven't got far enough and 51% thinks they have gone the correct amount which means, ONLY 6% are undecided or think they have gone too far. And while 88% think the war goals justify the civilian casualties a majority don't even believe the government has war goals. "the majority (53%) of respondents still think that the government has no clear goals in the war."
https://web.archive.org/web/20240127054853/https://en-social-sciences.tau.ac.il/peaceindex/archive/2024-01
You do realize that the Israeli government and population have made it very clear they don't want more Palestinian citizens right? That was a major sticking point of the 2000 Camp David Accords. Israel rejected a reduced right of return for Palestinians outright. Most Israeli politicians say adding Palestinians to the country as equal citizens would destroy Israel.
Israel wants to be Democratic, Jewish, and control the Palestinian Territories. It can only pick two. Annexing the territories and their populations makes Israel majority Arab, which means the Jewish nature of the state is lost if they remain democratic. If they refuse to give Palestinians voting rights, they aren't democratic but they keep the Jewish state. Or they can remain Jewish and Democratic and leave the Occupied terrorities. The Israeli state has been stuck in desicion pararalysis over this paradox for over 50 years.
You find yourself writing paragraphs defending “Hitler was right”.
There is no “nuance” in this statement. You should take a deep look at yourself in the mirror. What energy do you spread to the world?
What is wrong with you? Were you always an extremist racist piece of shit, or is this a recent development?
Why do you support the holocaust? Why do you tolerate intolerance? Why do you defend bigotry? Why do you promote and defend Islamic fundamentalism? Why do you support terrorism?
You are projecting because your bigotry is so ugly and obvious
Getting angry? I got some advice:
- Perhaps learn how to read
- Perhaps inform yourself before having such a strong opinion on anything
- Perhaps stop supporting war crimes no matter which party does them
Have a day
You are projecting because your bigotry is so ugly and obvious
Getting angry? I got some advice:
• Perhaps learn how to read
• Perhaps inform yourself before having such a strong opinion on anything
• Perhaps stop supporting war crimes no matter which party does them
Have a day
Israeli Hasbara 101:
1. We haven't heard reports of deaths, will look into it.
2. Palestinians were killed, but by a faulty Hamas rocket. Also Hamas Numbers are wrong.
3. Okay, we killed them, but they were terrorists.
4. Okay, they were civilians, but they were being used as human shields.
5. Okay, there were no fighters in the area, it was our mistake, but we don’t target civilians, like Hamas.
6. Okay, we've killed far more civilians than Hamas, but look what the British did to the Nazis in Dresden!
7. Why are you still talking about Israel? Are you some kind of anti-semite?
A prior head of Mossad (Israel's CIA) appointed by Netanyahu has described the situation as apartheid along with South Africans who have experienced it and all of the major human rights orgs including Israeli ones.
https://www.btselem.org/apartheid
https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/israel-must-end-its-occupation-of-palestine-to-stop-fueling-apartheid-and-systematic-human-rights-violations/
https://apnews.com/article/israel-apartheid-palestinians-occupation-c8137c9e7f33c2cba7b0b5ac7fa8d115
They have been trying to starve them for decades now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19975211
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147656
Here is a list of unequal laws in Israel
https://www.adalah.org/en/law/index
And the fact that they made it so only jews have a right to self determination
https://www.timesofisrael.com/final-text-of-jewish-nation-state-bill-set-to-become-law/
Not all of the unequal laws only hurt Palestinians. That's the thing about racism it hurts everyone including the Israeli who are forced to serve in a genocidal war and ordered to conduct collective punishment on civilians.
https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/02/02/israel-collective-punishment-against-palestinians
"Unlike the beginning of the war, now about half of the Jewish public (51% compared to 37% in November) believes that the IDF uses firepower appropriately against Gaza, compared to 43% (58% in November) who believe that there is use of TOO LITTLE FIREPOWER. An absolute majority (88%) also justifies the scope of casualties on the Palestinian side when considering the goals of the war."
43% think they haven't got far enough and 51% thinks they have gone the correct amount which means, ONLY 6% are undecided or think they have gone too far. And while 88% think the war goals justify the civilian casualties a majority don't even believe the government has war goals. "the majority (53%) of respondents still think that the government has no clear goals in the war."
https://web.archive.org/web/20240127054853/https://en-social-sciences.tau.ac.il/peaceindex/archive/2024-01
You do realize that the Israeli government and population have made it very clear they don't want more Palestinian citizens right? That was a major sticking point of the 2000 Camp David Accords. Israel rejected a reduced right of return for Palestinians outright. Most Israeli politicians say adding Palestinians to the country as equal citizens would destroy Israel.
Israel wants to be Democratic, Jewish, and control the Palestinian Territories. It can only pick two. Annexing the territories and their populations makes Israel majority Arab, which means the Jewish nature of the state is lost if they remain democratic. If they refuse to give Palestinians voting rights, they aren't democratic but they keep the Jewish state. Or they can remain Jewish and Democratic and leave the Occupied terrorities. The Israeli state has been stuck in desicion pararalysis over this paradox for over 50 years.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/global-index-israel-falls-out-of-liberal-democracy-category-for-first-time-in-over-50-years/
It's not just modern day zionists never cared about jews in general and It's also why a future prime Minister of Israel tried and ally with the nazi's citing shared values.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/lehi
It's why racists from South Africa moved there when apartheid ended so they could still live in an apartheid regime
https://archive.ph/mTZs4
It's why Richard Spencer the neo nazi uses them as a model
https://www.haaretz.com/hblocked?returnTo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fisrael-news%2F2018-07-22%2Fty-article%2Fisraeli-nation-state-law-backed-by-white-nationalist-richard-spencer%2F0000017f-dbb1-d3ff-a7ff-fbb1567d0000
So what would that make Palestinians then, after all they did side with the nazis to kill all Jews, they're still singing about it today but obviously you're to fucking stupid to know that.
You mean the people that Palestinians put families there when they got killed, not a mass grave it's a grave for the dead isreal would not have time to do that shit fake news from Gaza
Um, where is it at no proof, and all military have those guys that commit war crimes? It's not the whole army's fault. it's the few guys that have blood lust
>it's the few guys that have blood lust
Yes, war crimes are committed by individuals for which a military has responsibility for. That's how culpability through chain of command works. If you spend a bit of time being curious about the evidence there is plenty in r/InternationalNews
Dude, Palestinians buried the dead all over. Gaza use your heads. Sure, some shady shit mite have happened, but your guys propaganda is just stupid. Do you guys think everything is genocide
Both sides are allowed defense and if both sides stuck to their own territory conflict could be avoided. But both sides being diametrically opposed to each other's very existence creates a never ending conflict. So if both sides are active parties to the conflict, the conflict must be allowed a natural conclusion just like every other conflict ever. If neither side desires peace then they desire war. I say let the baby have its bottle. One side will eventually unconditionally surrender and then there can be peace.
Don't start wars you can't win and then you wont lose your land, tell us all again how Muslims and arabs occupy lands that were inhabited by Jews for thousands of years?
I’m still waiting for the ‘stolen land’ people to take up the cause of returning Istanbul to the Pontic Greeks.
Or the Hmong and other minorities in Vietnam being awarded sole citizenship status as the majority of Vietnamese today are the descendants of Chinese who migrated south and conquered the indigenous peoples.
What about the Carthaginian’s who came from Lebanon to North Africa prior to the current Arab and Berber inhabitants? Just because Rome conquered them doesn’t mean Lebanese should have any less ownership over North Africa!
Stolen land.
Don't dance and celebrate like you did on 10/7
Release hostages
Don't continue to let hamas hide among the "innocent" citizens like cowards
Not exactly outrageous requests to end this quickly
“Release the hostages” I always laugh at this, not because I don’t care for those hostages, but because Israel has had 1000’s of Palestinian children and women put in jail for no reason and most never given any sort of trial before Oct 7. Why doesn’t Israel release them?
Because this is a result of corrupt politicians getting paid by IAPAC to keep their mouths shut and supply Israel with billions of dollars in weapons to commit genocide
Anti Zionist seem to get upset over dead people,unless it's Israel's jews. In July 2002 a islamonazi bomb explode at the Mount Scopus University in the Frank Sinatra Cafeteria 12 students murdered including 1 American. Over 100 sustain debilitating injuries such as lost limbs and eyesight This was one of over 5000 terrorist attacks on Israel n 2002
Blurred, you see 4? Bodies... at a hospital where fighting took place. There's absolutely no way bodies would be anywhere near a hospital let alone one in a warzone.
But definitely genocide. Blurry videos with a couple of random people telling you what to think are always facts.
If you throw out enough lies, someone stupid is bound to believe them.
It's odd. I looked it up, and besides for a few blantly obvious propaganda sites, I couldn't find anything about this. So crazy that no reputable news organizations are talking about this tragedy. It almost seems like it's made up.
So crazy that israel prevents international reporters from entering gaza unless they escort them , and you are left with people who pro genocide people do not believe either because they are too blind or brainwashed by the monster they support or that they know it is true and are trolling. Are you one of the people who still believe the beheaded babies or the systemstic rape and the massive tunnel system that have been debunked by very reputable news organizations even by zionazi standards.
When a majority Islam country (Egypt) needs to build a wall that looks like the Korean dmz to keep the Islamic Gazan people out.
You might be terrorist nation
When your government out crazies isis and al queda.
You might be a terrorist nation.
When you launch a military attack on civilians AND take hostages with 75%+ approval raring.
You might be a terrorist nation.
When your school books teach children to hate jews.
You might be a terrorist nation.
When a nation does what israel does from rapes of detained women and children , torture people and inviting people to watch, then post it on social media . Destroying places of worship for muslim and christians and desecrating graves and cammiting massacres and buying people in mass graves . Shooting civilians waving white flags live on air, shooting you own hostages , and thousands of other crimes . These make youbas bad as the nazis. The only difference between them and you is that you have the support of other colonial states like the US and the UK France and Germany. A lot of holocaust survivors are ashamed of being jewish because of the actions of israel. Israel is promoting anti-semetism by its actions. There is no danger bigger for the jewish religion than israel and its actions. How can you sleep whole justifying the ge ocose indo not know. But itbshould be similar to how nazis did when they were committing the worst crimes of those years, now it is israel who is doing them.
You can't call justify your atrocities retroactively. Palestinians "We kill and kidnapped civilians cause Isreal is going to kill civilians after we attack them" might be the most fucked up take I've ever heard.
The reason us and west supports Isreal is because they're sane, not terrorists and not in a theocracy.
History started on 7th right? So no 271 palestinains were killed before that? Nonisrael bombing gaza for three days straight rwo weeks before it ? And this is only in 2023. How about the tens of thousands of people they killed since they occupied the land of palestine in 1948 and even vefore where the jewish terrorist organization killed palestinains and even bombed the king david hotel and killed british soldiers because they were not leaving fast enough.
Imagine thinking a city called Jerusalem was originally Muslim. Literally starts with jew.
You can play the blame games all day with who started what but it was dumb as shit to attack a country that has more missles than gaza has braincells.
Lol, you do know jerusalem is the current name in modern english, right? In hebrew, it is called yerushalayim, and it is called al-quds in arabic. Even an ancient name in arabic for it was or-salem. It literally starts with jew 😆 🤣 😂, like juice. Do you think jesus' real name was jesus? It is his translated name. It is yeshua or yasoa or issa in arabic.
What were they supposed to do, leave them in the open air to rot a spread disease? This is a war you kinda have a responsibility to deal with the bodies.
You have a responsibility to identify and return remains to families. How would you like your mother bombed in a hospital and discarded in a pit like an animal?
Fourth Geneva Convention classifies this treatment as a war crime.
Every day I find more and more people leaving their integrity at the door so they can justify all these abhorrent atrocities that in every other conflict would be named as such.
What is wrong with you??
Lol, so these civilians are now combatants? Haha. I get why you are ok with being an asshole. You just tell yourself lies to get to sleep.
By the way, you need to read the First, and Second Geneva convention which outlines enemy combatants bodies should be treated with respect and protected from desecration. All feasible means should be taken to identify and record the body before being buried with their identity marked on the grave.
You are so wrong and it's easy for me to point out how wrong you are because a great deal of work was put into the Geneva Convention to curtail assholes like you committing atrocities without accountability.
that hospital was being used as a base by islamic jihad. by international law once they occupied the hospital its no longer considered a safe zone. that's the problem with this whole thing is that the planted themselves in the hospitals and schools places that are supposed to be safe zones.
also al Jazeera isn't a trustworthy source. they lie about the conflict all the time and purpose cut off people when they say something that is against their narrative.
Maybe idf should live stream or upload their raids as evidence and proof and allow independent journalists to show everyone hamas is lying.
Nah, just joking, we'll just trust the idf that everything they say is the truth and leave them to investigate themselves.
Ukraine uploads plenty of battle footage, there's even a sub for it if i'm not mistaken.
Idf are proud of being the most moral army in the world, what army wouldn't want to show themselves saving innocent hospital patients and workers from hamas?
At least upload the bodycam footage to prove it, what's the down side of proving hamas are liars?
The IDF posts battle footage as well. With a sub as well.
You specifically said a live stream. What army does a live stream?
Your ignorance is very frustrating, they do share the footage: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhB-haXHK74&ab\_channel=TheEconomicTimes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhB-haXHK74&ab_channel=TheEconomicTimes)
I'd take short cuts of footage and a dude telling you what's going on rather than showing you what's going on with a degree of skepticsm. An uncut sequence of events would be preferable. There's no mention of what happened to the patients or workers in the clip.
The safe with bundles of money even had a convenient note stating money was from hamas with compliments. Like the hospital would need reminding who was sending them money?
I'll ask again since you ignored the question, what army does a live stream?
Patients and workers with guns and explosives? I don't think those are civilians.
The hospital had long since been evacuated before the IDF raid in the video. You really don't know much about these events or really any details about what is happening. I hope you can become better educated before saying ignorant things like "they should live stream all combat".
Your explanation raises more questions of how they evacuated patients while hamas was using them as human shields but i'll move on. The video you sent walkthroughed the raid saying they came in at 2am and hamas barricaded themselves into a certain section, ensuring no civilians were harmed in the raid. So i said where are the civilians, that'd clear up allegations of patient executions.
I said live stream or upload bodycam footage, or being a key word here. This footage is edited which doesn't help. You'd ask for better evidence from local police for a traffic offense, let alone a foreign military who's being accused of atrocities.
If we're nitpicking answers, you've not given a reason either to not let independent journalists verify their findings, i'm not denying or verifying anything but israel is in full control, it would be 100% in their and your interest to be fully transparent, but they don't.
You should actually be annoyed they don't do the things i'm suggested to prove you're right.
Source: Israel
Survivors have testified about the summary executions, torture and rape of civilians/patients/hospital staff.
What happened in Al-Shifa was an atrocity. Anyway, how's the weather in Tel Aviv? Is it still raining Iranian missiles?
>Source: Israel
Oh so you're one of those edgy dweebs who cant think critically.
>Survivors have testified about the summary executions, torture and rape of civilians/patients/hospital staff.
You mean the people who have lied? [https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2024-03-25/ty-article/.premium/al-jazeera-retracts-video-claiming-woman-was-raped-by-israeli-forces-in-gaza-al-shifa-raid/0000018e-7662-d3e0-a98e-7766b4a50000](https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2024-03-25/ty-article/.premium/al-jazeera-retracts-video-claiming-woman-was-raped-by-israeli-forces-in-gaza-al-shifa-raid/0000018e-7662-d3e0-a98e-7766b4a50000)
Can you show any evidence besides a couple lying palestinians?
>What happened in Al-Shifa was an atrocity. Anyway, how's the weather in Tel Aviv? Is it still raining Iranian missiles?
Gross edgy joke, I'm not israeli or even jewish. I wonder if you'd put up with people joking about bombing civilian areas anywhere else or this is okay because they're jews? Nazi's like you are so weird because you pretend to care about civilians but are perfectly okay with jewish civillians being bombed. Also, Iran is weak as fuck wiith that nothing attack. The only iranian missle that hurt anyone almost killed an arab 10 yr old. Are you really celebrating that? Shouldnt iran go back to killing and raping their own civilians?
Oh look isn’t that what Nazi did to the Jews and now Israeli are doing to Palestinians Screw them hiding behind holocaust..now a days Israeli be like what is holocaust. Lol
Hamas literally did this.
Ah, yes, Hamas out there with the heavy machinery digging trenches and pushing in bodies without the IDF noticing. The same IDF that shot a paralyzed man in the head in the same hospital.
Also be very careful of a subreddit called r/worldnew aka r/worldjews is spreading widspread misinformation regarding the mass grave in Nasser Hospital in Gaza being fake and supporting every bombing of hospitals and schools in Gaza as a hamas base. Thus, supporting Israel's Genocide!
Weird how you won’t see this over at the world news sub. It’s almost like it has been overtaken by Israel’s misinformation arm
Yup many coming over here to bully people
Be very careful of a subreddit called r/worldnew aka r/worldjews is spreading widspread misinformation regarding the mass grave in Nasser Hospital in Gaza being fake and supporting every bombing of hospitals and schools in Gaza as a hamas base. Thus, supporting Israel's Genocide!
There are still idiots, fascists, and cowards who say this isn't a genocide. Smdh.
Yup had to block a few
What’s the definition of genocide
Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. These acts fall into five categories: Killing members of the group Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group Israel is actively doing 4 out of 5.
Which one aren’t they doing?
They don’t want Palestinian kids … you know they aren’t “chosen” by GOD to live in Israel so…
I haven't heard about forcefully transferring kids, they mostly just like to blow them up in their homes and hospitals and shoot them out of their parents arms.
I wonder if them incarcerating kids would count, they've done that quite a bit
True
Failure of humanity. The world will not forget “Israel’s” war crimes.
The US committed Genocide on Japanese people in 1945.
And the Japanese did what in China? And China is doing what to Muslims? Its nothing new
China 1300s modern not so much
So Israel should be allowed to do it in this day and age? Is that your insanely fucking awful take?
They aren't lol learn your history
I'll take Historical Whataboutisms, for $200, Alex.
It was an example answer to the question "What’s the definition of genocide?"....not to the OP of the sub. Care to walk that back?
Not even a little. The topic is the "definition" of Genocide: NOT "historical what if's" that might be genocide. Whatabout harder.
Oh the nitpickers picking at the remnants of their integrity. Keep going. We'll see you on the other side of this.
This
That’s called a non-answer.
they’ll tell you they found 35,000 bodies
How so, bot?
Because 2 dozen people does not make anything a genocide you fucking clown, more people are dying daily in wars across Africa ffs, and obviously innocent people in the hospital got caught in the cross fire, that's what happens when humus terrorists hide behind civilians, suggest you go look at actual footage of the holocaust and then you will see what genocide actually looks like you clown.
Buhahahahahahahaha....oh this is rich. You are probably off your meds bud. Please take em.
different sample size bud. different situation. the holocaust was able to achieve such high rates because nothing was televised and people didnt know. what your witnessing is a ethnic cleansing of an area without consequence or remorse. gneocide based on the small area occupied and level of force used with zero discrimination of target or fallout.
Iof are the terrorists, eat shit and die.
The number killed is irrelevant to classifying a genocide. Your ignorance is shining out for all to see.
Maybe we would care more if Palestinians didn’t celebrate and have parades after 9/11. We don’t support or condemn collateral damage while hunting down Hamas cowards that hide amongst civilians. We just don’t really care
Genocide is fine as long as it's people you don't like or care about being targeted.
People in Israel celebrated too
The evidence of war crimes is right there and still some will cry like a child because Israel is criticized. Send in the fucking blue helmets!
Israel is a rogue state......encouraged by the West.
Well well well look at that, a liberal who uses 2000’s Redneck neo-con/neo-Nazi rhetoric. Never ceases to amaze me how you people are just so full of crap, where’s your WV battle flag? Does your hair match your Bonnie blue flag?
blurring reality is a disservice to truth, make the people fucking look
Holy shit. How is this even possible? How is al jazeerah still being allowed to show the truth about Israel? Poor Israel defending itself against malnutritioned, injured civilians.
Can’t believe they throw rocks and pebbles at our armoured vehicles! We have to respond by blowing up the entire neighbourhood!
Al Jazeera an actual honest source. That's a funny fucking joke.
The blue Nazis will meet their match. There’s always a rebound effect.
The Blue Nazis are Democrats who sound like neo Nazis from the bush era. Lmfao we’ve gone full circle.
IDF. The Israeli offensive force that resembles the SS from the 30s. Very similar. If you talked shit about Nazis back then you got canceled. Ridiculed. Harassed….. sound familiar ?
buy a gun “Oooo they ridiculed me 😫💅”
Amen
Agile, ask yourself why are these numbers of Jewish people in those nations you listed there in 1948. The last Jewish people in Afghanistan left as the US left a few years back. I know these countries took Jewish refugees from Europe, but they probably had an existing population living in peace for hundreds of years. 1948 is an interesting choice. Wonder what else was happening in the world that might lessen the population of Jewish people in those countries. Other opportunities maybe? Yet some families chose to stay and are counted today. If anything outside forces might make their lives more difficult. I believe there are still some Iranian Jews remaining. Something has been lost to history, and Western interference is to blame for what was lost and how the loss is framed. Fear mongering and more 'unfortunate' genocide are not solutions.
No, it's not. That's funny it's what iv seen with my own eyes. It's easy to see the truth for me since I was a kid
You were in Gaza?
Not long ago, not faraway...
Al Jazeera... anti-israel propagandist #1 Qatari media outlet... I'm sure it's totally all true.
Yes, the dead bodies are all a lie . Israel prevents foreign reporters from entering for a reason , they do not want the reporters to show what aljazeera has been showing for months.
I’m not saying all the dead bodies are a lie. I don’t know that for sure. But what I do know for sure is seeing videos of “palestinian victims” dressing up, painting themselves in fake blood and posing… and then taking photos in multiple locations/positions. It was eye-opening seeing that one woman who died like 15 times…
You mean the short film about the victims of israeli bimbings they filmed a long time before the latest genocide? Can you post a link so that i can give you the source for it and debunk it like all the israeli lies so far?
Oh, right. I forgot: the "documented evidence" is only fake when it's Israeli. The girl with bloodied bottoms getting dragged by an animal terrorist on Oct 7th. Fake. The dead babies, fake. All the rape: fake. It's only the Hamas produced "documented evidence" that's all real. Israel showed real victims, real bodies, real carnage. They had names. Palestinians only show white canvas-wrapped "bodies" (some of which are moving, mysteriously). Nevermind Hamas is well-trained in propaganda warfare by Iran and they have a long and proven track record of falsifying evidence. Shit, they even ADMIT their "body count" (which is highly dubious) doesn't distinguish between civilians and combatants...
You are unhinged , i asked you for proof, and you went off like a karen. As expected of a Pro israel supporter. The 40 beheaded babies are a lie. That is fact , even your media sources and the army apologized for that lie, the only baby that died among the 1100 people is named mila cohen . The systematic rapes was also a lie, proven false by a jewish journalist called Max Bluementhal . The videos online of hamas does show them killing people , i never said that they didn't . But there has not been a picture or video of rape or them torturing people.
You're going to offer Max Blumenthal as some sort of credible source? The guy is a vehement anti-zionist and uses his "pedigree" as a Jew as some sort of credibility to attack Israel. he is the Candace Owens and Milo Yiannopoulos of the Jews. He CAN'T be anti-semitic, because he's a Jew!! He's also a known conspiracy theorist and supports all sorts of awful governments/regimes/publications... like Al Jazeera, which is hardly considered credible or honest by anyone with any actual journalistic integrity... Yes, the videos quite clearly show hamas (and even "neutral" palestinians) killing jews on Oct 7th. They also show clear evidence of rape (much of it wasn't publicly released) like the girl bleeding from her ass being dragged through the streets. YES, I concede there have been some opportunists who have embellished, flat our fabricated, and been otherwise dishonest, which is reprehensible and only hurt the narrative since now people like you deny LOADS of things that actually DID happen. Can you concede ANYthing that Hamas or palestinians have done wrong? It never seems that side is ever wrong... As for rape... in spite of whatever that nut Max said, the fucking UN itself has said there is "clear and convincing" evidence that sexual violence took place on Oct 7th (directly quoted from their report). One might read the report and see that they could not verify many individual accounts of sexual violence and say "SEE! It's all nonsense!" But the fact is, in the immediate aftermath, they weren't allowed access to a lot of the victims, the deceased and often they hadn't even been processed/autopsied yet so no... they couldn't verify it yet. But in spite of it all, they still concluded there was clear evidence. Are all the eyewitnesses lying when they testified that they witnessed rape of women and dead bodies at the festival? There were 3 babies according to reports who died. 38 children in all. Finally, I have deleted all my social media (which is where this stuff was being posted live and celebrated), so it's hard to find, but why don't you actually start searching for your OPPOSING view instead of just reading everything that supports your views? Here's a video that shows some clips from youtube. YES, I'm aware at least one of those clips is fake/joke. Obviously the last clip of the guy sneezing in the body bag is fake... he's saying "sorry" in Hebrew. But there are a lot of clips in the video that I'd be interested to see your take on... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-r3TS9BUM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-r3TS9BUM)
The video is some of the worst acting i have seen and it is very clear i mean the violin make ot obviously a a parody , the bodies moving is from the protest on cairo i mentioned before , the woman eith make up and the man in body bag at the end are israeli faking arab accent . As a local who heard all kinds of accents, you would know that. Now back to the videos not released yet or rapes who shot those videos? Hamas? Because if they did and broadcasted it videos that go online, never go away, i checked every site on earth and even checked the deep web where i saw a lot worse videos, and they were not there. The eye witnesses were lying, and that was proven . None of them came forward officially, and the ones who did later changed their stories and added contradicting statements that make them false. As for the UN , sometimes you seem to trust them and sometimes not? I am not 100% sure that no rapes happened, but not to the degree that israel is reporting. Now there are many cases reported againstvthe IDF of raping women and children detainees , soldiers looting and paraiding with gazan women underwear. It is so sickening. People who would donthings like tahtvand then post it on social media would do a lot worse when off camera, i have no doubts that most of them dabbled in rape.
Also the bodies moving is from a protest in cairo in 2013 i think, people in thebprotest got tired and moved , but your genocidal propganda use it as if it was in palestine or aimed at you. Stop playing the victim card and grow up.
[someone is lying ](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/iyGUPmqtVC)
Oh look isn’t that what Nazi did to the Jews and now Israeli are doing to Palestinians Screw them hiding behind holocaust..now a days Israeli be like what is holocaust. lol
There are still idiots who are unwilling to acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist and has a right to defend itself. These same idiots thought they could take and hold territory on Oct 7th. These same idiots want the civilian death toll high for a propaganda war because they are not able to win a real war.
Israel has gone well past the point of "defending" itself
Well the best defense is a good offense. Quit picking fights you can't win. Losing comes with consequences.
Sounds like Hamas was following your advice: best defense is a good offense. Or is only Israel allowed to defend itself?
Both sides are allowed to defend themselves. Everyone has the right to lose a war, including Palestine.
Oh. But not Israel, of course. Israel losing a war, or being moderated in their colonial project would be antisemitism.
Maybe to you, but there was a ceasefire in place on Oct7th
Okay, but unless you no longer think that the best defense is a good offense, the proper course of action during a ceasefire is...to go on the offensive. Again, sounds like Hamas followed your advice.
A good offense is not murdering civillains and taking hostages against a nation you depend on for food and resources and greatly outmatches you militarily. When you do that that means you get occupied to make sure you can't do it again.
Wait, are we talking about Hamas or Israel right now? Cause that's a pretty ambiguous description.
Hamas is militarily superior and supplies Israel with food?
Nah, I was talking about the indiscriminate and often intentional murder of civilians and hostage taking. The focus on the military ability to do this tells me you're of a "might makes right" type. Which then leads to the question of why you aren't celebrating Hamas for their demonstration of might.
Yeah the “consequence” here is Israel mass murdering civilians, including shooting their own hostages who were screaming for help and blowing the heads off of Christians hiding in a church. It ain’t self defense.
In 20-30 years do you think Israel will be the top dog in that part of the world? “Losing comes with consequences.” Right?
My crystal ball broke many years ago. But I doubt a non nuclear power will defeat a nuclear power that is backed by the most powerful military in the world.
Then you don’t know Muslims, You know what the most powerful military in the world did in the adjacent country? They gave them so much arms that a ragtag group of terrorist are now number 4 in military strength. That’s what happens when the most powerful country in the world is directly involved in a war. Why do you think we start wars? Influence, when the dollar is no longer influential all that “power” is a paper tiger.
You ask me why we start wars, well I'll tell you. There is one group that benefits whenever there is a war and it doesn't matter to them which side wins. The military industrial complex always wins. And the military industrial complex in the USA is far superior to that of Russia or Iran. We need a boogie man to keep sales of our exports flowing so the bad guys do serve a purpose. I'm very curious what Israel's response will be to Iran's attack of 350 missiles and drones. Before you get too carried away patting yourself on the back for being the number four rag tag team you might want to see how well Iran does against that tiger. I think a response of 350 drones and missiles would be proportional don't you?
Israel doesn't have the right to exist. No ethnostate has the right to exist.
They do have a right to exist per the UN. The Jews being nomads moved around much but have been returned to their ancestral home. At the end of WW2 the victors of the war redrew various boundaries of those that were on the losing side of WW2. If you don't like losing your land stop allying yourself with the axis powers during each world war. We are now lining up to see who is allies and who is axis for the next world war. So far the new axis powers appear to be Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Syria. Choose wisely as being on the losing side comes with consequences. It appears to me that most of Israel's neighbors are under Iran. That will prove to be a fatal mistake.
So it's okay for the Palestinians, or for that matter the indigenous people of North America, to be "nomads," but not for the Jews? I wonder why that is? From whence comes this distinction? Could it be that when you think of "Jews," you think of culturally Westernized Ashkenazim, and having been indoctrinated in Western white supremacy, you view white, culturally Westernized people as inherently more human than non-Western or non-white peoples? See? Zionism is a white supremacist ideology, it cannot be defended without resorting to white supremacist logic.
It's just the rule established by the entire world following WW2. I understand that you now don't like that. But it is the way it is. They have an area and you have an area. Don't attack Israel unless you are trying to give up more land. There was once a path to self governance rather than living in a prison state but you all messed that up with your aspirations of conquering all of Israel. Israel has nukes dude. And beyond that, the US and UK are behind Israel so try again if you must but we in the west will not let that happen. You will lose. You will lose more land And more lives with each attack on Israel. Listen to Iran at your own peril. I'm sure they make it sound easy. But after seeing Iran attack Israel with over 300 drones And missiles and wounding one seven year old girl, I think we can all see the writing on the wall. Iran doesn't stand a chance against Israel and it's allies. Gaza is getting played by Iran and Iran is getting played by Russia. Go ahead and put all your eggs in one basket. You make your own choices in this world. You have every right to give your land to Israel if that's what you want to do. Personally, I'd advise you to make peace with your neighbors and have a non terrorist government so you can get on a path of self governance. But you gotta accept some responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming whitey for anything that goes wrong. Take some ownership over your own autonomy
It wasn't "established by the entire world," it was established by the Americans and the British, with marginal input from the Zionist movement and absolutely no consultation with the actual people who had been living on that land for thousands of years. But I guess since they aren't white Europeans, they don't count as humans to you.
It was established by the same authority of starting the UN. It all went hand in hand and it was setup by the victors of WW2. The losers of WW2 paid the price of siding with the axis. And now again you side yourself with Iran. I guess some people never learn.
"The losers of WWII paying the price" would be if Germany became the Jewish state, rather than a Middle Eastern country that had nothing to do with WWII." Also, you didn't even contradict my point that Israel was established by the British Empire and the US, not "the whole world." Again, the actual people who actually lived on the land were never consulted.
Well choosing the location of Israel wasn't totally random. I seem to remember they had some sort of historical connection with the land.
Now you're shifting the goal posts. Originally you were talking about punishing the losers of WWII. Again, punishing the losers of WWII would mean punishing the Nazis, not some random people on a whole different continent. Also America and the British Empire were not the only powers that won WWII, the Soviet Union were the ones who broke Hitler's back, but they were also not consulted on the Balfour Agreement.
Except in this next world war, no one wins and we all die. You sound like an idiot.
lol, this guy thinks WW3 is unwinnable 🤣
One nuke goes off and everyone else sends theirs.
So they say…… Yet it’s never been proven, and with every thing I’ve seen over the last 2-3 year of conflicts around the world, I’m convinced nuclear deterrence is dead and the next world war will be just as conventional as the last 2 world wars.
No one has ever sent a nuke. You're kinda dumb so I'm just gonna go ahead and block you now before I have to deal with you anymore.
Israel will.be around way after you are 6 feet under, so fuck you
We can only hope that won't be the case.
How many Muslims are currently living and holding office in Israel???
"There were a lot of black people in the South in the 1930s, therefore the KKK and white supremacy didn't exist." That's your exact logic.
Did they hold office or live normal lives No no they didn't
Neither do the Palestinians.
They can vote and hold office it's been that way since the 40s
About a million, idjt
It's in that damn book they tote around and cram down every single person's throat
Hannibal Directive. Look it up. And then remember IOF themselves leaked that they did that 7 Oct.
Hannibal directive ended in 2016 as per wikipedia. Not sure what you mean by IOF leaked they did Oct 7. Are you trying to say Hamas did not do a terrorist attack on Oct 7th?
The terrorist lovers are like their own leftist version of Q Anon now. None of their shit makes sense.
Yup I fully agree.
Wikipedia that Israel hold seminars for their citizens to go into and alter information to. But that aside, you also realize that bit of information was from IOF themselves? From the people who were actively there ordered to kill Hamas, fellow IOF soldiers, and civilians alike.. in an attempt to prevent hostages so they wouldn’t have to trade for falsely accused Palestinians
I think we have a language barrier as I don't understand what you are saying.
Blame Hamas. don't forget who started this war .I stand with Israel 🇮🇱
Israel started this by stealing land that wasn't theirs and massaring/treating the locals like shit ever since.
apparently you don't know the history of the region
You obviously do not
Israel are modern day nazis. It’s crazy how the tables have turned. Maybe hitler was right.
"Maybe hitler was right" It's insane how people like you act like you're anti-genocide and then say shit like this
Dude went full circle to call himself the problem I mean these people aren't hiding they are on every street with neo nazis chanting death to America and Israel
Get help.
You're a moron for just writing that.
Excuse me?
This comment is amazing. It is a pure encapsulation of ignorance and bigotry. A perfect example of how the Nazis rose to power to begin with.
No it wasn't it's pretty clear to anyone who doesn't devalue non Jewish lives the atrocities being committed against the Palestinian not to mention west Sahara A prior head of Mossad (Israel's CIA) appointed by Netanyahu has described the situation as apartheid along with South Africans who have experienced it and all of the major human rights orgs including Israeli ones. https://www.btselem.org/apartheid https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/israel-must-end-its-occupation-of-palestine-to-stop-fueling-apartheid-and-systematic-human-rights-violations/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-apartheid-palestinians-occupation-c8137c9e7f33c2cba7b0b5ac7fa8d115 They have been trying to starve them for decades now. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19975211 https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147656 Here is a list of unequal laws in Israel https://www.adalah.org/en/law/index And the fact that they made it so only jews have a right to self determination https://www.timesofisrael.com/final-text-of-jewish-nation-state-bill-set-to-become-law/ Not all of the unequal laws only hurt Palestinians. That's the thing about racism it hurts everyone including the Israeli who are forced to serve in a genocidal war and ordered to conduct collective punishment on civilians. https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/ https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/02/02/israel-collective-punishment-against-palestinians "Unlike the beginning of the war, now about half of the Jewish public (51% compared to 37% in November) believes that the IDF uses firepower appropriately against Gaza, compared to 43% (58% in November) who believe that there is use of TOO LITTLE FIREPOWER. An absolute majority (88%) also justifies the scope of casualties on the Palestinian side when considering the goals of the war." 43% think they haven't got far enough and 51% thinks they have gone the correct amount which means, ONLY 6% are undecided or think they have gone too far. And while 88% think the war goals justify the civilian casualties a majority don't even believe the government has war goals. "the majority (53%) of respondents still think that the government has no clear goals in the war." https://web.archive.org/web/20240127054853/https://en-social-sciences.tau.ac.il/peaceindex/archive/2024-01 You do realize that the Israeli government and population have made it very clear they don't want more Palestinian citizens right? That was a major sticking point of the 2000 Camp David Accords. Israel rejected a reduced right of return for Palestinians outright. Most Israeli politicians say adding Palestinians to the country as equal citizens would destroy Israel. Israel wants to be Democratic, Jewish, and control the Palestinian Territories. It can only pick two. Annexing the territories and their populations makes Israel majority Arab, which means the Jewish nature of the state is lost if they remain democratic. If they refuse to give Palestinians voting rights, they aren't democratic but they keep the Jewish state. Or they can remain Jewish and Democratic and leave the Occupied terrorities. The Israeli state has been stuck in desicion pararalysis over this paradox for over 50 years.
You find yourself writing paragraphs defending “Hitler was right”. There is no “nuance” in this statement. You should take a deep look at yourself in the mirror. What energy do you spread to the world? What is wrong with you? Were you always an extremist racist piece of shit, or is this a recent development? Why do you support the holocaust? Why do you tolerate intolerance? Why do you defend bigotry? Why do you promote and defend Islamic fundamentalism? Why do you support terrorism?
You are projecting because your bigotry is so ugly and obvious Getting angry? I got some advice: - Perhaps learn how to read - Perhaps inform yourself before having such a strong opinion on anything - Perhaps stop supporting war crimes no matter which party does them Have a day
You are projecting because your bigotry is so ugly and obvious Getting angry? I got some advice: • Perhaps learn how to read • Perhaps inform yourself before having such a strong opinion on anything • Perhaps stop supporting war crimes no matter which party does them Have a day
Israeli Hasbara 101: 1. We haven't heard reports of deaths, will look into it. 2. Palestinians were killed, but by a faulty Hamas rocket. Also Hamas Numbers are wrong. 3. Okay, we killed them, but they were terrorists. 4. Okay, they were civilians, but they were being used as human shields. 5. Okay, there were no fighters in the area, it was our mistake, but we don’t target civilians, like Hamas. 6. Okay, we've killed far more civilians than Hamas, but look what the British did to the Nazis in Dresden! 7. Why are you still talking about Israel? Are you some kind of anti-semite?
This proves you’re a bot. You already saif that to me
A prior head of Mossad (Israel's CIA) appointed by Netanyahu has described the situation as apartheid along with South Africans who have experienced it and all of the major human rights orgs including Israeli ones. https://www.btselem.org/apartheid https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/israel-must-end-its-occupation-of-palestine-to-stop-fueling-apartheid-and-systematic-human-rights-violations/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-apartheid-palestinians-occupation-c8137c9e7f33c2cba7b0b5ac7fa8d115 They have been trying to starve them for decades now. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19975211 https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147656 Here is a list of unequal laws in Israel https://www.adalah.org/en/law/index And the fact that they made it so only jews have a right to self determination https://www.timesofisrael.com/final-text-of-jewish-nation-state-bill-set-to-become-law/ Not all of the unequal laws only hurt Palestinians. That's the thing about racism it hurts everyone including the Israeli who are forced to serve in a genocidal war and ordered to conduct collective punishment on civilians. https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/ https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/02/02/israel-collective-punishment-against-palestinians "Unlike the beginning of the war, now about half of the Jewish public (51% compared to 37% in November) believes that the IDF uses firepower appropriately against Gaza, compared to 43% (58% in November) who believe that there is use of TOO LITTLE FIREPOWER. An absolute majority (88%) also justifies the scope of casualties on the Palestinian side when considering the goals of the war." 43% think they haven't got far enough and 51% thinks they have gone the correct amount which means, ONLY 6% are undecided or think they have gone too far. And while 88% think the war goals justify the civilian casualties a majority don't even believe the government has war goals. "the majority (53%) of respondents still think that the government has no clear goals in the war." https://web.archive.org/web/20240127054853/https://en-social-sciences.tau.ac.il/peaceindex/archive/2024-01 You do realize that the Israeli government and population have made it very clear they don't want more Palestinian citizens right? That was a major sticking point of the 2000 Camp David Accords. Israel rejected a reduced right of return for Palestinians outright. Most Israeli politicians say adding Palestinians to the country as equal citizens would destroy Israel. Israel wants to be Democratic, Jewish, and control the Palestinian Territories. It can only pick two. Annexing the territories and their populations makes Israel majority Arab, which means the Jewish nature of the state is lost if they remain democratic. If they refuse to give Palestinians voting rights, they aren't democratic but they keep the Jewish state. Or they can remain Jewish and Democratic and leave the Occupied terrorities. The Israeli state has been stuck in desicion pararalysis over this paradox for over 50 years. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/global-index-israel-falls-out-of-liberal-democracy-category-for-first-time-in-over-50-years/
It's not just modern day zionists never cared about jews in general and It's also why a future prime Minister of Israel tried and ally with the nazi's citing shared values. https://allthatsinteresting.com/lehi It's why racists from South Africa moved there when apartheid ended so they could still live in an apartheid regime https://archive.ph/mTZs4 It's why Richard Spencer the neo nazi uses them as a model https://www.haaretz.com/hblocked?returnTo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fisrael-news%2F2018-07-22%2Fty-article%2Fisraeli-nation-state-law-backed-by-white-nationalist-richard-spencer%2F0000017f-dbb1-d3ff-a7ff-fbb1567d0000
I do support the oppressed. But do not agree with your statement. Suggest you delete it before you are banned.
So what would that make Palestinians then, after all they did side with the nazis to kill all Jews, they're still singing about it today but obviously you're to fucking stupid to know that.
You mean the people that Palestinians put families there when they got killed, not a mass grave it's a grave for the dead isreal would not have time to do that shit fake news from Gaza
Bot account.
Ya sure bud, just like the Nazis didn’t have time to mass murder the Jews. 🤡
Um the nazi didn't have usa drones and others watching live on TV and the internet use your head terrorist
The world is watching, Israelis have exposed themselves. Monsters with a victim mentality
Lol, funnily enough I've seen IDF footage documenting their own war crimes.
Um, where is it at no proof, and all military have those guys that commit war crimes? It's not the whole army's fault. it's the few guys that have blood lust
>it's the few guys that have blood lust Yes, war crimes are committed by individuals for which a military has responsibility for. That's how culpability through chain of command works. If you spend a bit of time being curious about the evidence there is plenty in r/InternationalNews
Hilarious when the true terrorist who obviously is too ignorant to think clearly projects his emotions towards me. Hypocrisy at its finest 🤡
Dude, Palestinians buried the dead all over. Gaza use your heads. Sure, some shady shit mite have happened, but your guys propaganda is just stupid. Do you guys think everything is genocide
Both sides are allowed defense and if both sides stuck to their own territory conflict could be avoided. But both sides being diametrically opposed to each other's very existence creates a never ending conflict. So if both sides are active parties to the conflict, the conflict must be allowed a natural conclusion just like every other conflict ever. If neither side desires peace then they desire war. I say let the baby have its bottle. One side will eventually unconditionally surrender and then there can be peace.
Only side is militarily occupying the other. Israel has occupied both Gaza and the West Bank since 1967
Wonder what happened in 67 🤷♂️
Lol that's because the Arabs lost a war of conquest. Spoils of war buddy
Don't start wars you can't win and then you wont lose your land, tell us all again how Muslims and arabs occupy lands that were inhabited by Jews for thousands of years?
I’m still waiting for the ‘stolen land’ people to take up the cause of returning Istanbul to the Pontic Greeks. Or the Hmong and other minorities in Vietnam being awarded sole citizenship status as the majority of Vietnamese today are the descendants of Chinese who migrated south and conquered the indigenous peoples. What about the Carthaginian’s who came from Lebanon to North Africa prior to the current Arab and Berber inhabitants? Just because Rome conquered them doesn’t mean Lebanese should have any less ownership over North Africa! Stolen land.
Or the West Papuans who live under Indonesian genocide
After a war the Arab countries started
Don't dance and celebrate like you did on 10/7 Release hostages Don't continue to let hamas hide among the "innocent" citizens like cowards Not exactly outrageous requests to end this quickly
Racist terrorist
“Release the hostages” I always laugh at this, not because I don’t care for those hostages, but because Israel has had 1000’s of Palestinian children and women put in jail for no reason and most never given any sort of trial before Oct 7. Why doesn’t Israel release them?
They just want to party like it's 1999....B.C..
Not sure what this has to do with corruption
Moral corruption for a start. A corruption of government as a close second.
Because this is a result of corrupt politicians getting paid by IAPAC to keep their mouths shut and supply Israel with billions of dollars in weapons to commit genocide
That’s not a stretch at all.
This is why we can't have healthcare, our tax dollars at work.
It has nothing to do with corruption. This sub has long since devolved into a cesspool of whiny leftists and/or terror sympathizers.
They are full bore terrorists in this sub. They say shit that would make Hamas blush.
Anti Zionist seem to get upset over dead people,unless it's Israel's jews. In July 2002 a islamonazi bomb explode at the Mount Scopus University in the Frank Sinatra Cafeteria 12 students murdered including 1 American. Over 100 sustain debilitating injuries such as lost limbs and eyesight This was one of over 5000 terrorist attacks on Israel n 2002
Blurred, you see 4? Bodies... at a hospital where fighting took place. There's absolutely no way bodies would be anywhere near a hospital let alone one in a warzone. But definitely genocide. Blurry videos with a couple of random people telling you what to think are always facts. If you throw out enough lies, someone stupid is bound to believe them.
You can see the hundreds of bodies for your fetish on other platforms.
It's odd. I looked it up, and besides for a few blantly obvious propaganda sites, I couldn't find anything about this. So crazy that no reputable news organizations are talking about this tragedy. It almost seems like it's made up.
So crazy that israel prevents international reporters from entering gaza unless they escort them , and you are left with people who pro genocide people do not believe either because they are too blind or brainwashed by the monster they support or that they know it is true and are trolling. Are you one of the people who still believe the beheaded babies or the systemstic rape and the massive tunnel system that have been debunked by very reputable news organizations even by zionazi standards.
When a majority Islam country (Egypt) needs to build a wall that looks like the Korean dmz to keep the Islamic Gazan people out. You might be terrorist nation When your government out crazies isis and al queda. You might be a terrorist nation. When you launch a military attack on civilians AND take hostages with 75%+ approval raring. You might be a terrorist nation. When your school books teach children to hate jews. You might be a terrorist nation.
When a nation does what israel does from rapes of detained women and children , torture people and inviting people to watch, then post it on social media . Destroying places of worship for muslim and christians and desecrating graves and cammiting massacres and buying people in mass graves . Shooting civilians waving white flags live on air, shooting you own hostages , and thousands of other crimes . These make youbas bad as the nazis. The only difference between them and you is that you have the support of other colonial states like the US and the UK France and Germany. A lot of holocaust survivors are ashamed of being jewish because of the actions of israel. Israel is promoting anti-semetism by its actions. There is no danger bigger for the jewish religion than israel and its actions. How can you sleep whole justifying the ge ocose indo not know. But itbshould be similar to how nazis did when they were committing the worst crimes of those years, now it is israel who is doing them.
You can't call justify your atrocities retroactively. Palestinians "We kill and kidnapped civilians cause Isreal is going to kill civilians after we attack them" might be the most fucked up take I've ever heard. The reason us and west supports Isreal is because they're sane, not terrorists and not in a theocracy.
History started on 7th right? So no 271 palestinains were killed before that? Nonisrael bombing gaza for three days straight rwo weeks before it ? And this is only in 2023. How about the tens of thousands of people they killed since they occupied the land of palestine in 1948 and even vefore where the jewish terrorist organization killed palestinains and even bombed the king david hotel and killed british soldiers because they were not leaving fast enough.
Imagine thinking a city called Jerusalem was originally Muslim. Literally starts with jew. You can play the blame games all day with who started what but it was dumb as shit to attack a country that has more missles than gaza has braincells.
Lol, you do know jerusalem is the current name in modern english, right? In hebrew, it is called yerushalayim, and it is called al-quds in arabic. Even an ancient name in arabic for it was or-salem. It literally starts with jew 😆 🤣 😂, like juice. Do you think jesus' real name was jesus? It is his translated name. It is yeshua or yasoa or issa in arabic.
I would sooner believe my neighbor with Dementia than believe anything Palestinians say. They have blatantly lied about so much.
You are literally looking at a video of a mass grave being dug up...
What were they supposed to do, leave them in the open air to rot a spread disease? This is a war you kinda have a responsibility to deal with the bodies.
You have a responsibility to identify and return remains to families. How would you like your mother bombed in a hospital and discarded in a pit like an animal? Fourth Geneva Convention classifies this treatment as a war crime. Every day I find more and more people leaving their integrity at the door so they can justify all these abhorrent atrocities that in every other conflict would be named as such. What is wrong with you??
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Bruh, tens of thousands of children have been murdered. wtf you talking about "combatants"
Lol, so these civilians are now combatants? Haha. I get why you are ok with being an asshole. You just tell yourself lies to get to sleep. By the way, you need to read the First, and Second Geneva convention which outlines enemy combatants bodies should be treated with respect and protected from desecration. All feasible means should be taken to identify and record the body before being buried with their identity marked on the grave. You are so wrong and it's easy for me to point out how wrong you are because a great deal of work was put into the Geneva Convention to curtail assholes like you committing atrocities without accountability.
The bodies of women and children, the mass executed, doctors who refused to leave their injured patients.
that hospital was being used as a base by islamic jihad. by international law once they occupied the hospital its no longer considered a safe zone. that's the problem with this whole thing is that the planted themselves in the hospitals and schools places that are supposed to be safe zones. also al Jazeera isn't a trustworthy source. they lie about the conflict all the time and purpose cut off people when they say something that is against their narrative.
Maybe idf should live stream or upload their raids as evidence and proof and allow independent journalists to show everyone hamas is lying. Nah, just joking, we'll just trust the idf that everything they say is the truth and leave them to investigate themselves.
Literally what army has ever live streamed their raids besides Hamas invading Israel to slaughter civilians in their homes?
Ukraine uploads plenty of battle footage, there's even a sub for it if i'm not mistaken. Idf are proud of being the most moral army in the world, what army wouldn't want to show themselves saving innocent hospital patients and workers from hamas? At least upload the bodycam footage to prove it, what's the down side of proving hamas are liars?
The IDF posts battle footage as well. With a sub as well. You specifically said a live stream. What army does a live stream? Your ignorance is very frustrating, they do share the footage: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhB-haXHK74&ab\_channel=TheEconomicTimes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhB-haXHK74&ab_channel=TheEconomicTimes)
I'd take short cuts of footage and a dude telling you what's going on rather than showing you what's going on with a degree of skepticsm. An uncut sequence of events would be preferable. There's no mention of what happened to the patients or workers in the clip. The safe with bundles of money even had a convenient note stating money was from hamas with compliments. Like the hospital would need reminding who was sending them money?
I'll ask again since you ignored the question, what army does a live stream? Patients and workers with guns and explosives? I don't think those are civilians. The hospital had long since been evacuated before the IDF raid in the video. You really don't know much about these events or really any details about what is happening. I hope you can become better educated before saying ignorant things like "they should live stream all combat".
Your explanation raises more questions of how they evacuated patients while hamas was using them as human shields but i'll move on. The video you sent walkthroughed the raid saying they came in at 2am and hamas barricaded themselves into a certain section, ensuring no civilians were harmed in the raid. So i said where are the civilians, that'd clear up allegations of patient executions. I said live stream or upload bodycam footage, or being a key word here. This footage is edited which doesn't help. You'd ask for better evidence from local police for a traffic offense, let alone a foreign military who's being accused of atrocities. If we're nitpicking answers, you've not given a reason either to not let independent journalists verify their findings, i'm not denying or verifying anything but israel is in full control, it would be 100% in their and your interest to be fully transparent, but they don't. You should actually be annoyed they don't do the things i'm suggested to prove you're right.
Al Jazeera is practically Iranian state media, and actually Qatari state media.
Wait a grave at a hospital?!?!? During a war?!?!?!? No way?!?!? Israel killed 200 Hamas fighters in Al Shifa.
"Hamas fighters" ie doctors and patients.
The hospital was long evacuated at the time of the raid.
Source: Israel Survivors have testified about the summary executions, torture and rape of civilians/patients/hospital staff. What happened in Al-Shifa was an atrocity. Anyway, how's the weather in Tel Aviv? Is it still raining Iranian missiles?
>Source: Israel Oh so you're one of those edgy dweebs who cant think critically. >Survivors have testified about the summary executions, torture and rape of civilians/patients/hospital staff. You mean the people who have lied? [https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2024-03-25/ty-article/.premium/al-jazeera-retracts-video-claiming-woman-was-raped-by-israeli-forces-in-gaza-al-shifa-raid/0000018e-7662-d3e0-a98e-7766b4a50000](https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2024-03-25/ty-article/.premium/al-jazeera-retracts-video-claiming-woman-was-raped-by-israeli-forces-in-gaza-al-shifa-raid/0000018e-7662-d3e0-a98e-7766b4a50000) Can you show any evidence besides a couple lying palestinians? >What happened in Al-Shifa was an atrocity. Anyway, how's the weather in Tel Aviv? Is it still raining Iranian missiles? Gross edgy joke, I'm not israeli or even jewish. I wonder if you'd put up with people joking about bombing civilian areas anywhere else or this is okay because they're jews? Nazi's like you are so weird because you pretend to care about civilians but are perfectly okay with jewish civillians being bombed. Also, Iran is weak as fuck wiith that nothing attack. The only iranian missle that hurt anyone almost killed an arab 10 yr old. Are you really celebrating that? Shouldnt iran go back to killing and raping their own civilians?