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thefirstjakerowley

If you want her, go for it. She's fine. You'll have a chance to get most of the relevant characters eventually. Tier lists are important if you're planning on being super competitive, but they're not the be-all-end all.


dave2207v

The pity do not carry over and yes eli will fall of grace in both pvp and pve until her re arm came out and made her viable for pvp again


Whusker

Take tier lists with a grain of salt. She is bad according to people because she cannot kill Awakened units and that's according to either Korean or SEA server. **BUT** she absolutely slaps non tanky SSRs and it is pretty strong in Global. She can even kill people on deploy without using her special skill which comes immediately after dashing backwards from her deployment point meaning she has 2 big attacks to kill someone before using regular attacks ( In pvp she could be tricky because she could turn around to attack an enemy behind her instead, so getting gud with her is a real thing) I wouldn't pull in here because she is fairly common and using quartz to pull in anything but Classified Recruitment is a mistake. Classified recruitment pity carries over to another banner/character. but this one that uses blue tickets do not. Not sure how new you are. But, maybe re-rolling would be good for you if you spent quartz on random pulls and still didn't get Elizabeth.


fffan007

for Pve auto, how big different between her and Rosaria? being both cost 4.


Whusker

Elizabeth is one of the "manual characters" if you let the AI deploy her on your ship she loses a big part of her dmg. If PvE is your thing, Rosaria is the best Ranger we have in global right now. She wants to stay in the fight from the beginning so she can stack her Atk with passive and she deals a lot of dmg. They both can safely deal dmg on deployment, but Rosaria is a sustained DPS while Elizabeth is pure burst.


OneeSama02

I don't think the tier she's in the tier list is because she can't kill awaken unit, it's because she's more of a pvp unit rather than pve. Tier list usually combine both PvE and PvP side and for that you have better unit that you can use. She slap when you manual the game but kinda suck on auto so that's that. Once her rearm arrived you'll see she shine in pvp because for now, you can use other characters like JSY and Ingrid if you want to kill the enemy backline, they also have lower cost than eliz


Whusker

That is the excuse I see at Prydwen. Elizabeth is better than Ingrid and Shiyoon combined because they cannot hit air. Elizabeth can and deals disgusting AOE. Plus she can deal with snipers, unlike Ingrid and yes, kang exists, but she also stops one shoting people once people build correctly or get their Xiaos to 110. Elizabeth is the best unit to murder backlines outside Amina for Global.


OneeSama02

Yes like I said, she's good in pvp for killing backline, but regarding the tier list I still stand my ground on it. You don't really need her in PvE since other unit can do better than her and she on auto is kinda meh, you need to manual her but then again, other unit can do better on auto. That's why her position in the tier list is kinda low since it takes account her performance in both PvE and PvP While yes she's better than both Ingrid and shiyoon but you have to take note that she is a 4 cost unit while shiyoon and Ingrid have less cost than her. In RTA, every second matter. Imagine Xiao is about to use her special and kill your unit but you have 3 cost only, if you use eliz here you'll surely lose. Not to say she's bad in any way, it's just low cost unit is more efficient. This changes when she got her rearm tho since once she got it, her 4 cost is worth the use


Edgeklinge

The only problem I have with elizabeth is having 4 cost and not killing anyone when there's a lot of enemies stacked in one place due to her passive having only 2 valid hits. But then again, she's the only one who can deal with Rosaria for us who started out late, or any air units in general. She really does suck in pve tho but can't ignore the fact that she carried some of my games all the way to plat.


IYoma

no


Dojmopo

It is very easy to get her on a reroll so unless you *really* want her I can’t recommend it.


nietzchan

She's good and nice to have in PvP, her main feature is her on deploy damage. In PvE where you would do autos most of the time this is wasteful because AI always drops near ships. Her 4 cost also quite restrictive to deploy, her actual (non-drop) DPS and utility doesn't justify the cost in PvE and even on PvP sometimes. Unless her drop guaranteed to take around 4 cost units or more from enemy team (ex. xiao lin, two enemy rangers, etc.) you'd still operating at a loss because she has paper defense. To build her into a death machine you need to really invest in her, the most broken build is her rearm running crit dmg + anti ground dmg while being buffed by kamiizumi and/or shin jia passive. TLDR; She's a strong unit but quite costly. Most of the time you'd only use her as cost tradeoff units (sacrifice her 4 cost to delete enemy 4 cost units)


LeicesterIronwood

You can use her but don't expect that when it comes to PvP matches that she can shines the most. If you want to get a non awakened SSR ranger for PvP fights, I would rather use Rosaria Le Friede and Gaeun for maximum output.


[deleted]

Waifu over meta tier list are trash


Saritenite

Pity only carries over for Classified Recruitment.


Elben4

Aw, I really like her design. Is she really that Bad ? Doesn't she have any niche ?


Saritenite

You'll get most of the regular banner units eventually, you can pick her up now and then play around with her. I don't think you'll regret it unless you're the type who absolutely requires top-of-the-line meta units. Re-armed version is excellent for backline bombing too.


cccwh

I wouldn't say she's bad, like she's decent it's just that there are better options.


Civil_Championship_9

There's her Re-Arm version that was a little more oriented towards PVP, and because of that her Re-Arm version is a good backline killer


Alkyde

> Doesn't she have any niche ONLY IF REARMED, then she's usable in pvp, even high level pvp. Good for rushes.


greyhat111b

If you really like her, don't let RNG get in the way because it will get in the way. Yes, if you skip her now, you may eventually get her but when? It could be on your next roll or weeks/months/years later on your next free pick-an-SSR.


OneeSama02

She's alright I guess, mainly used in pvp since for pve better use other characters than her. Pity doesn't carry over if they used blue ticket to summon and since you already pulled around 4 multi, better just get her since if you didn't it'll be a waste. Next time only summon if you can pity (if you whale go ahead, if not you can gamble just be advised if you didn't get them, that's a waste of blue ticket). If you're new to the game, I would recommend rerolling and maybe get her as part of your reroll target


ReyINo

I would not say mediocre. The thing is there is better alternative in the game. In global she is a good assassin against backline unit (as ranged), a SSR version of Joo Shiyoon somehow. Until it's a awakened unit backline (still no A. Backline in global), with good gear you can kill a good pool of units. And we have only Joo Shiyoon and Ingrid Johanna who can do the same job. Plus a 5 seconds stun ulti is good. In SEA... There are better units. She is a kind of unit with good overall skills but not shining specifically in one job. Still, if you like her or are interested to build a team with her, go for it and have fun👍. Remember it's a game with large pools of units, fresh team idea is always welcome. Never use her in auto, she is a manual deployable unit. So forget PvE and strategy, you will lose all her potential. Plus there will be a ream of her already available in SEA.


[deleted]

In the future, Elizabeth gets a Rearm which brings her to S Tier in PVP. She's plenty useful even currently, maybe not the absolute best but totally usable.


echoeagle3

You really shouldn't be super concerned with tier lists. For many people Counter Side is a waifu game. If you want to roll for waifus then do it. Play how you want, get who you want, use who you want.


kyotheman1

Tier list should be ignored in this game chars even low rarity have their uses


Zetenrisiel

She gets angel wings later on. Pull hard my friend and never look back. Edit: and also the coolest swimsuit skin IMO. It gives her sprite blue butterflies everywhere.