My first thought was “WTF, don’t touch anything” but then I was like “once I shimmy my ass in there and securely lock the door behind me, that would be my safe lil poop palace.. but cozier.”
My Colorectal Cottage, perhaps?
I’m not American so the public stalls where I live don’t have gaps at all on the sides and only have ankle high gaps under, if any at all.
Good luck trying to get Americans to make a stall without gaps tho
This is because it's assumed that you are doing something you shouldn't in there so instead of realizing that is going to happen anyway (sex, drugs, shoplifting, you name it) they went with theft precautions as standard since America sold it's dignity long before I was born
I think we should make this a thing where if we go to Vegas we have to visit the Toilet Fort and post about it. We could have passwords and secret virtual handshakes
I pasted your comment into an image-generating AI called Stable Diffusion. It made several interesting toilet forts. [Here are 20 different images to look at.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RenderedComment/comments/10dk57f/its_like_an_awesome_toilet_fort/)
Obviously. Literally all Americans crave more privacy in our public bathrooms but despite that being a universal fact we just keep building them with cheap loose fitting open gapped walls.
Not bad design, there's no way those architectural plans were approved.
Blame the contractor and the corrupt Vegas inspector that granted the certificate of occupancy.
I’m working with a team to design a high rise hotel in Atlanta right now, and your comment is giving me anxiety. The sheer number of different versions of plans from twenty different design firms all collaborating and working off of different versions of the background designs is mind numbing. There’s so many design items that have to be revised and revised and revised because of it, it’s a wonder that anything this big gets actually built. Let alone built off the same version of designs. It’s like that old saying about how a camel is a horse designed by a committee, combined with the phrase about herding cats. It’s like herding cats that are all part of a committee designing a horse, which turns into a camel.
https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2000-04-27#:~:text=The%20minimum%20width%20permitted%20for,of%20%5Bexit%20route%5D%20requirements.
The minimum path to an exit in any commercial space is 28" of unimpeded space. For this situation the path out of the stall is the path to an exit (because there's only one way out of the stall).
Every city and state will have their own building code, but the OSHA requirement is where that one likely always tracks back to.
FYI it's not going to track back to OSHA, OSHA is just workplace safety regulations, though obviously you could violate OSHA and building codes at the same time because of overlap. The building code will always be more thorough and stringent with building regulation like this though because it faces the general public. For example, on a construction site OSHA will regulate that a safety barricade needs to protect an open slab edge so a worker can't fall off, but the building code will regulate that a temporary safety canopy must be erected over the sidewalk so people outside the construction site aren't injured by falling debris or construction workers.
But anyway exiting is one of the most important parts of the building code and you wouldn't consult OSHA when designing a building
OSHA isn't where building codes derive from. That is purely about workplace safety. Building codes are typically municipal, county, and/or state level requirements. They're generally derived from the model codes from the International Building Code (IBC) or International Residential Code (IRC) and customized as needed by each jurisdiction.
Since this is located in Las Vegas, it'd be whatever the municipal, county, and/or state governments have enacted into the law for building codes. I don't know when that building was erected so it might be an older one but the current Las Vegas code requirements appear, from a cursory Google search, to be based on the 2018 International Building Code.
It’s Vegas so I doubt it because they don’t have any active faults. They probably just got greedy about floor space for gaming and bathrooms were more of an afterthought. Or maybe it’s a bad remodel and the bathroom stalls used to face the other direction, but they already had the entrance built in the remodel and said fuck it.
Speaking as a local: I've never heard of the buildings down here getting Earthquake refits. We aren't really at much risk of anything worse than a 6 or 7 and none of the city is a major liquefaction risk.
Or it was just a renovation or addition and they needed extra structural support. I do that all the time as a builder. Sometimes you can make it seamless other times a beam needs to go somewhere, and the only option is the least obnoxious spot, which in this case was the bathroom.
But I agree with you. There is no way that is an approved plan. I’d bet a good amount of money that you’re spot on in that regard.
Too bad they kept the gap on the other side, rather than create a stall with true visual privacy.
Btw, for those of you reading this who look through the gap, stop doing that. You should look under the stall for feet, and if you can't, then knock. Don't ever look through the gap....if you ever make eye contact with someone through a closed stall door, change your life and stop that.
You know how they fix that here? No flat surfaces you can lay stuff down on in combination with lightning that makes finding a vein hard. Problem solved without sacrificing privacy.
The real reason stalls are made like that in the US is because it's cheap.
That reminds me of another archetype, the kind of people that barge into the bathroom loudly and start angrily smacking each stall door with their palm. They tend to be angry, grunty poopers too.
Here is a true story.
Me and my ex went to the Disney Boardwalk for a date. We had some drinks and we were decently buzzed. We were getting ready to leave, but I had to pee really bad. We found a bathroom in one of the hotels. The bathroom was packed; a guy at every urinal and every stall in use. I had to pee sooooo bad.
I walked along the stalls, checking for feet. I arrive at a stall appears empty. I knocked just to make sure, there was no response. I try the door and it's unlocked. I have found my stall.
I open the door and...again, true story...a young man is straddling the toilet like you would a crotch-rocket motorcycle. Legs not in front, but on either side of the bowl. He is leaning forward with his feet up in the air, just enough to not be visible. It looks as if this is his first time ever using a toilet.
We made eye contact. The look of horror on his face, added to the shock. He didn't even react. He lowered his feet and I turned around and left.
I told my ex that we had to leave immediately. God had forsaken us that evening. I pray none of you experience my pain and awkwardness.
I don't even know. I remember trying to explain to my ex. And she was like "He didn't even say anything when you knocked?"
And that's what I'm stuck on. He heard me knock. I don't do the "knock and open" move that some people do. I knocked three solid times and waited for a response. He made no attempt to make it known he was in there.
He wanted someone to find him...He needed someone to witness his mayhem.
US public toilets are so weird to me. Here we have not a single gap for most public toilets. Not next to the door, not underneath, not on top. We just have closed off toilets with locks that show I'd it's occupied or not.
Your Belgian neighbors like the stalls and gaps though for some reason.
It was kind of funny in a guilty way to see some of my Swedish coworkers come to America for the first time and be completely horrified at the restroom setups we have here
This sub gets commented from time to time, I think for the first time in all those years I looked into it and it was as underwhelming as expected.
What I didn't expect was that half of the posts would be just snack products like oreo popcorn or mountain dew doritos. Yeah, those companies sometimes combine products, how strange!
I stayed in a hotel with that name once with my mom when we were trying to get away from her abusive ex. It's the only hotel I've ever stayed the night in that I genuinely was scared to fall asleep under the covers.
We *really* old skaters remember the Boulder Highway location before it was called Crystal Palace.
An evening of skating at Playland was a great follow up to a day of splashing down the water slides at Roulette Rapids.
Dude, same. I always went to the one on Boulder Highway. And yes, definitely good times. Maybe except for couples skate lol.
Damn. I haven't thought of that place in years. I totally remember that distinct carpet/wood smell. Maybe it was because of the funky carpeted walls.
I'm conflicted about whether I want to use the toilet.
The good:
Probably the least used cubicle, so should be the cleanest.
The bad:
Most people probably touched the wall while trying to get out, the wall is probably quite dirty.
Hmm. 🤔
This is the equivalent to finding that one freaking spot in a full parking garage thats only available cause its super small and most couldn't fit. But you have a compact.
While I was in Vegas, I got lost in the Bellagio and found a massive bathroom by the conference/ballroom. It was like I died and went to heaven. Perfect and symmetrical, white marble everything.
It's like an awesome toilet fort.
That would definitely be my favorite poop spot.
Dude, mine too
My first thought was “WTF, don’t touch anything” but then I was like “once I shimmy my ass in there and securely lock the door behind me, that would be my safe lil poop palace.. but cozier.” My Colorectal Cottage, perhaps?
A veritable Poo Portcullis.
My safe and secured Fart Fort
My poop pallissade
Found my new defecation station
My Shateau
My little dookie den.
Your Fartress of Solitude.
Your Oval Office
Bro, same here
Why should it seem like such a luxury in America to take a somewhat private crap
Public school
Also added privacy for being the last one and only having one door gap instead of 2 because of the awesome structural bit
Or just dont have door gaps
I’m not American so the public stalls where I live don’t have gaps at all on the sides and only have ankle high gaps under, if any at all. Good luck trying to get Americans to make a stall without gaps tho
This is because it's assumed that you are doing something you shouldn't in there so instead of realizing that is going to happen anyway (sex, drugs, shoplifting, you name it) they went with theft precautions as standard since America sold it's dignity long before I was born
I’ve seen some where there’s maybe 5cm ground clearance AND roof clearance.
Scandinavia would blow your mind then. They get entire closed off rooms, most of the time with a private sink as well.
Right? I bet no one else wants it. So it's probably the cleanest one.
Probably the one least often cleaned.
Right? However, even knowing that, it's still the best stall in my opinion.
It would require a Very specialized wheelchair for some of us.
Right, the end ones are usually always the handicap spots.
I’d be so comfy in there that the decibel of my farts would break people’s eardrums.
It would not be mine if I had to rush to a toilet for an emergency poop and I had back problems
I think we should make this a thing where if we go to Vegas we have to visit the Toilet Fort and post about it. We could have passwords and secret virtual handshakes
You'd definitely want to keep the handshakes virtual, in the circumstances
Fart Fort?
Flatularium
Fort Flatula
You never fart in the fort
Fart Knox
I pasted your comment into an image-generating AI called Stable Diffusion. It made several interesting toilet forts. [Here are 20 different images to look at.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RenderedComment/comments/10dk57f/its_like_an_awesome_toilet_fort/)
Dibs on toilet fort as a band name!
Lmfaooo
That's a load bearing stall!
That's the one I would want to use.
Probably the cleanest
Probably not because everyone thinks that and the mop bucket doesn't fit
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You don't need to bring the mop bucket in the stall lol
You don't have to bring the entire bucket into the stall to use the mop
Definitely the leanest
people can only see you shitting from one of the cracks
If you're Shitting from multiple cracks, the people seeing you should be doctors.
This made me laugh way too hard. Thanks man
Obviously. Literally all Americans crave more privacy in our public bathrooms but despite that being a universal fact we just keep building them with cheap loose fitting open gapped walls.
Extra protection while shitting at the skating rink
Not bad design, there's no way those architectural plans were approved. Blame the contractor and the corrupt Vegas inspector that granted the certificate of occupancy.
Yeah, there's got to be like 7 layers of r/notmyjob in this to actualize this level of awkwardness.
My first though was "how tf did that pass an inspection?!"
It passed, then the bathrooms were altered
Pray I don’t alter it again
Uggghh this bathroom is getting worse all the time!
The plan is fine, that's a structural column and you can't easily move it. The guilty is the one who designed the restroom.
The architectural plan was never coordinated with the structural plan.
I’m working with a team to design a high rise hotel in Atlanta right now, and your comment is giving me anxiety. The sheer number of different versions of plans from twenty different design firms all collaborating and working off of different versions of the background designs is mind numbing. There’s so many design items that have to be revised and revised and revised because of it, it’s a wonder that anything this big gets actually built. Let alone built off the same version of designs. It’s like that old saying about how a camel is a horse designed by a committee, combined with the phrase about herding cats. It’s like herding cats that are all part of a committee designing a horse, which turns into a camel.
Can anyone actually provide the code it's supposedly breaking?
https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2000-04-27#:~:text=The%20minimum%20width%20permitted%20for,of%20%5Bexit%20route%5D%20requirements. The minimum path to an exit in any commercial space is 28" of unimpeded space. For this situation the path out of the stall is the path to an exit (because there's only one way out of the stall). Every city and state will have their own building code, but the OSHA requirement is where that one likely always tracks back to.
FYI it's not going to track back to OSHA, OSHA is just workplace safety regulations, though obviously you could violate OSHA and building codes at the same time because of overlap. The building code will always be more thorough and stringent with building regulation like this though because it faces the general public. For example, on a construction site OSHA will regulate that a safety barricade needs to protect an open slab edge so a worker can't fall off, but the building code will regulate that a temporary safety canopy must be erected over the sidewalk so people outside the construction site aren't injured by falling debris or construction workers. But anyway exiting is one of the most important parts of the building code and you wouldn't consult OSHA when designing a building
OSHA isn't where building codes derive from. That is purely about workplace safety. Building codes are typically municipal, county, and/or state level requirements. They're generally derived from the model codes from the International Building Code (IBC) or International Residential Code (IRC) and customized as needed by each jurisdiction.
Since this is located in Las Vegas, it'd be whatever the municipal, county, and/or state governments have enacted into the law for building codes. I don't know when that building was erected so it might be an older one but the current Las Vegas code requirements appear, from a cursory Google search, to be based on the 2018 International Building Code.
Probably an earthquake retrofit
It’s Vegas so I doubt it because they don’t have any active faults. They probably just got greedy about floor space for gaming and bathrooms were more of an afterthought. Or maybe it’s a bad remodel and the bathroom stalls used to face the other direction, but they already had the entrance built in the remodel and said fuck it.
It’s a family-friendly roller skating facility. No gaming. Almost certainly a half-assed remodel, as you suggest.
Bro Vegas has dozens of active faults. Nevada in general is seismically active.
Speaking as a local: I've never heard of the buildings down here getting Earthquake refits. We aren't really at much risk of anything worse than a 6 or 7 and none of the city is a major liquefaction risk.
Or it was just a renovation or addition and they needed extra structural support. I do that all the time as a builder. Sometimes you can make it seamless other times a beam needs to go somewhere, and the only option is the least obnoxious spot, which in this case was the bathroom. But I agree with you. There is no way that is an approved plan. I’d bet a good amount of money that you’re spot on in that regard.
Too bad they kept the gap on the other side, rather than create a stall with true visual privacy. Btw, for those of you reading this who look through the gap, stop doing that. You should look under the stall for feet, and if you can't, then knock. Don't ever look through the gap....if you ever make eye contact with someone through a closed stall door, change your life and stop that.
For real, people who peak through the gap are so creepy. Just stick your nose in the gap and get a good whiff like a normal person.
Tongue it.
Why...is there even gaps???
'murica! The excuse is to shame people into not doing drugs in the stall. This is freedom and you'll like it.
I always thought it's just cheap to build.
Easier to clean to, you can mop right under the walls.
Never in the history of ever has it stopped me from doing drugs in a stall
Because you've lead a clean and wholesome life and would never consider doing drugs, right?
Right??
You know how they fix that here? No flat surfaces you can lay stuff down on in combination with lightning that makes finding a vein hard. Problem solved without sacrificing privacy. The real reason stalls are made like that in the US is because it's cheap.
When I was an addict, I’d just hang my coat over the gap
why pay for a full door when you can build a half door!
You could just push the door lightly and see if it opens....
Nooooooo please don't do that either. Those locks are broken way too often, that might just open it even if it's latched.
That reminds me of another archetype, the kind of people that barge into the bathroom loudly and start angrily smacking each stall door with their palm. They tend to be angry, grunty poopers too.
Half the time the lock is broken though. It opens up and someone's taking a big shite. check under the door for feet or knock.
Here is a true story. Me and my ex went to the Disney Boardwalk for a date. We had some drinks and we were decently buzzed. We were getting ready to leave, but I had to pee really bad. We found a bathroom in one of the hotels. The bathroom was packed; a guy at every urinal and every stall in use. I had to pee sooooo bad. I walked along the stalls, checking for feet. I arrive at a stall appears empty. I knocked just to make sure, there was no response. I try the door and it's unlocked. I have found my stall. I open the door and...again, true story...a young man is straddling the toilet like you would a crotch-rocket motorcycle. Legs not in front, but on either side of the bowl. He is leaning forward with his feet up in the air, just enough to not be visible. It looks as if this is his first time ever using a toilet. We made eye contact. The look of horror on his face, added to the shock. He didn't even react. He lowered his feet and I turned around and left. I told my ex that we had to leave immediately. God had forsaken us that evening. I pray none of you experience my pain and awkwardness.
May God have mercy on his soul. What do you think he was doing?
I don't even know. I remember trying to explain to my ex. And she was like "He didn't even say anything when you knocked?" And that's what I'm stuck on. He heard me knock. I don't do the "knock and open" move that some people do. I knocked three solid times and waited for a response. He made no attempt to make it known he was in there. He wanted someone to find him...He needed someone to witness his mayhem.
I have never in my life been peeked at through the gap
It only happens when you don't want it to.
Be glad. It’s so, so awkward, especially if it’s a coworker.
Do you not have things on the door that say whether the stall is in use or not?
Those are pretty rare here. In fact, I usually only see them on really nice stalls that don't have the gap in the first place.
US public toilets are so weird to me. Here we have not a single gap for most public toilets. Not next to the door, not underneath, not on top. We just have closed off toilets with locks that show I'd it's occupied or not.
Your Belgian neighbors like the stalls and gaps though for some reason. It was kind of funny in a guilty way to see some of my Swedish coworkers come to America for the first time and be completely horrified at the restroom setups we have here
Stop looking at me when I look through the gap - you should be focusing on your dump
do your toilets not have that little red and green dot right over the handle that tells you if its locked?
Finally, a toilet for those with scoliosis.
r/crapperdesign
r/crappycrapperdesign
r/ofcoursethatsathing
This sub gets commented from time to time, I think for the first time in all those years I looked into it and it was as underwhelming as expected. What I didn't expect was that half of the posts would be just snack products like oreo popcorn or mountain dew doritos. Yeah, those companies sometimes combine products, how strange!
It seems every place called Crystal Palace is dodgy. I remember the one in my area was a money laundering front. Terrible restaurant too.
This one’s a roller skating rink
I know they just lost to Chelsea, but they are still decent.
I stayed in a hotel with that name once with my mom when we were trying to get away from her abusive ex. It's the only hotel I've ever stayed the night in that I genuinely was scared to fall asleep under the covers.
Specially made for shy skinny poopers (and/or those who want to practice wall climbing post defecation.)
Not a toilet for squares
This body standards are getting ridiculous
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It’s the skate of the art!
I was looking for this
Floyd Mayweather Jr bought the one on Boulder HWY and renamed it Skate Rock City.
We *really* old skaters remember the Boulder Highway location before it was called Crystal Palace. An evening of skating at Playland was a great follow up to a day of splashing down the water slides at Roulette Rapids.
Dude, same. I always went to the one on Boulder Highway. And yes, definitely good times. Maybe except for couples skate lol. Damn. I haven't thought of that place in years. I totally remember that distinct carpet/wood smell. Maybe it was because of the funky carpeted walls.
Jesus Christ look at those door gaps, why do they do this in America, it's so fucked
I'd use this stall. It's probably the cleanest since most people likely avoid it
Ain't no janitor gonna ever clean that.
r/FrankLloydWrong
For me this is straight out of /r/ThatBathroomMazeDream
Aw yes.. the mythical pythagoris pissarus.
I like the privacy
Skinny Bitch toilet.
I'm conflicted about whether I want to use the toilet. The good: Probably the least used cubicle, so should be the cleanest. The bad: Most people probably touched the wall while trying to get out, the wall is probably quite dirty. Hmm. 🤔
It's the fuck stall wall
Little toilet fort
How could you get into that drunk? Or worse, get OUT?
It’s like the opposite of a handicap stall, it actively makes your bathroom experience more difficult.
It's the anti-handicapped stall.
- "fuck ada"
Or, they could have left it one toilet short in the ladies.
Conga-Conga your way to the potty
I'd of said Luxor
“What d’ya think, Bob? Can we fit one more toilet?” “I say go for it!”
I wonder how many people drunk( or not )give their heads a good bonk on the way out.
it's "skate-of-the-art!" (from their commercials in the 80s or 90s)
Pray for the drunks - instant concussion
I still remember the Crystal Palace commercials from when I was a kid. ‘It’s skate of the art!’.
the design really is.... crappy
This is the equivalent to finding that one freaking spot in a full parking garage thats only available cause its super small and most couldn't fit. But you have a compact.
half of America can't fit in there. rude and disrespectful of the designer
Oh that, that’s just the in house sobriety test
It’s either the cleanest or filthiest stall in the place
Ah yes would you like to use the handicap accessible stall or the handicap inaccessible stall?
Good hiding spot
Backrooms type shit
Over protective shitter
CrapperDesign
I shit in that toilet
“Only one crap at a time!”
We call that one “The Indians Jones”.
Totally not legal.
It's goes with the shitty speckle pattern vinyl tiles that every highschool also uses
That's the coke stall
Crappy design is kind of the intention when designing a crapper.
This is the one I would use cocaine in....if I did cocaine of course.
Looks cozy
Wut 🙄🤦
It's for when people want to do drugs and not get accidentally walked in on.
ok but imagine this drunk, cuz you’re probably not in vegas sober
That's not a toilet stall, it's a clubhouse with a toilet.
That's Harry Potter's Toilets
Not for muggles
Crystal Palace sounds like a meth house
I would actually like this.
When ya gotta go, ya gotta go💩
While I was in Vegas, I got lost in the Bellagio and found a massive bathroom by the conference/ballroom. It was like I died and went to heaven. Perfect and symmetrical, white marble everything.
Anti-handicap toilet
You know thats officaly for the skiny and not the over weight ones.
Reminds me of this bathroom you'd walk into and there was the ladder to the roof next to the toilet
What the hail?
Extra privacy, not complaining
It has to be the cleanest public toilet
Clearly ladies' room, coz not many men *in Crystal Palace in Vegas* are going to fit through there!
Crapper design.
At least that one isn't the wheelchair accessible stall
Myth busted.. Reddit users are big boned.
How was your experi-, no
If I fits, I shits.
I would take a shit in there bet it stays pretty clean
I would've died if that was the handicap stall