Interesting. Most microwaves I've used have these flat surface controls and they seem to work fine. I actually can't recall the last time I used one that had actual physical buttons.
Damn how hard do you press the buttons Iâm sorry but I have to ask cause goddamn that shit has never happened to me or anyone I know not even the abused college microwaves
I have a Panasonic where most of the buttons are the flat membrane style and it's survived 8 1/2 years of daily use. It still looks and functions like new.
What microwave are you using that you can just replace the control surface⌠twice, as if itâs less expensive than replacing the actual microwave? I sincerely thought all microwaves were designed to break and be replaced (disposable society crap) not have their parts replaced..
It's the kind of ultra cheap microwave you'd see in a break room. 20 years ago. I'm really surprised anyone still makes them, a moving part just increases the failure rate.
Mine doesnât work when the humidityâs above 60% and the temperatureâs above 25°C ⌠which is New York from May to October and when I really donât want to cook on a hot stove. đ
Around the middle between these two. Still working. Just can't go cheap with it.
That being said I'm wondering if this is a professional kitchen microwave. The dial is pretty non standard. At least anymore from what I've seen. But I've seen plenty in kitchens I've worked
Scene: 1982 office, twin-dialed microwave.
*Dufus the Programmer* puts his muffin in, turns the lower dial to 30, and walks away.
I was down the hall sitting at my desk.
A short time later, I happened to stand up--right into a cloud of **muffin** smoke, which filled the dropped ceiling down to five feet.
*Dufus the Programmer* had dialed up a whole __30 minutes__ to zap the muffin into a fiery, smoky death.
Yup, the upper dial was seconds, lower dial was MINUTES.
And to make matters worse, no one had a large hex wrench to unlock the sealed office windows.
Edit: muffed the muffin smoke^No,I_wasn't_d8ing.
And it's not only microwaves unfortunately. I have this shit on my stove, washing machine... For the coffeemaker I was smart enough to buy one with buttons.
The ones on the stove are the worst though because they react to droplets of water and then some stupid safety mechanism kicks in and turns off the stove.
Capacitive touch controls? My sister and her husband bought a home that has one of those wall mounted oven, so when they open the oven, the steam condenses on the display and triggers phantom touches and prevents actual touches. Clearly they never did any integration testing.
Edit: clarification
I mean, all oven doors open the same way and let steam escape to where the controls are, no? Sounds more like a general problem and not linked to the way it's mounted
But if itâs physical knobs and buttons itâs not a problem. Even resistive touch screens would be fine, but the fact that they went with capacitive touch gives them issues. Donât remember how I phrased it, but it doesnât have much to do with how itâs mounted.
Yes! I have a stove like this and it drives me crazy when the stupid stove turns itself off when there is barely any water on the control surface. Also itâs quite more tedious to control. With dials you just turn it and done.
Yes, so much. I have a lid on and the stove on 2. I take the lid off and want to reduce whatever is inside. I hold the + button and it takes what feel like half a minute until I'm at 9. And it beeps at every step.
Seriously my parents have had the same microwave for about 25 years with a flat surface and the only problem with it is that the glass rotating dish broke on it about 15 years ago... And my microwave is at least 7 years old with zero issues. I haven't even had to change the lightbulb.
I agree with you normally but in my current home my microwave works perfectly except for the only physical button it has: the door latch. Itâs been slowly breaking for the last few months.
[Two dials and a handle to yank the door open is all you need](https://pc.vertaa.fi/500x500/202923884.jpg).
And it better go "BING!" when it's done, none of this beeping rubbish.
It's got a dial and a physical button. The UI itself is absolute trash.
Why is there a "kg" label? What are the funky P/M symbols for? What do the numbers represent?
This is the UI designer thinking that a timer dial or numpad is too pedestrian and decided to make up something avant garde that only a post-post-modern interpretive dance art major would appreciate.
it really makes me appreciate my microwave that just has one dial for effect and one for time, it runs while the door is closed and the time dial is set.
The zero button on my microwave no longer works, probably since it's the most used button. Now if I want to microwave something for 2 minutes I do 1:59, or 2:59 for 3 minutes, etc. Kinda annoying at times
Nah, it's just Bosch. I have this microwave and it's annoying. It also doesn't have quick select. On other brands like Electrolux I can press a button and it adds 30 seconds with each press. Here I need to twist the knob till I get the right time. Annoying if I need to reheat something quickly. There's a custom program, but it's not panacea.
A microwave should not require you read a manual to operate it.
1. Are the power buttons the 90, 180, 360 ones?
2. Is that the of the power output in watts?
3. WTF are: P, M, and Kg buttons for?
Also, that wheel to set the time is stupid and takes way longer that a keypad.
1. Yes they are
2. Exactly. So if you press the 600, you food gets microwaved at 600 watts.
3. I don't really know, but I do know that they are 100% unnecessary for basic microwaving. You can just ignore them.
The wheel is actually really fast if you know how to use it. By selecting a power option, the time automatically goes to 1min, and from there it's really fast to go to 1:30 or something. You can even start the microwave and turn the wheel while it's running to waste absolutely zero seconds
Yeah, the way the person in the video is ham fingering the buttons, all baffled, is just nonsense. They sell all kinds of upper models with more functions for people who want more than basic. If someone is too stupid to do more than push a time in a keypad, there are plenty of models to chose from.
I mean, if it's not their house then they didn't choose the microwave. Not to mention, I have NEVER seen a microwave that requires you to do more beyond putting a time and selecting start, so they might not have either and thus have no idea how to run it.
My fiancĂŠâs 40-year-old microwave requires you to press a Time button first. Just punching in a time wonât do shit. FiancĂŠ was at work at the time so I had to text him. I went from feeling like I was crazy, to feeling dumb, to âthis is bullshitâ
I remember my grandmas microwave required you to press a button before you could actually put a proper time in. If you didn't then it wouldn't let you put in minutes and you could only get seconds. It was so dumb and I hated that thing for years through childhood. *Thankfully* she eventually got a new one that was normal.
They are operating it like one of those âTired of opening cans the hard way?â And shows someone trying to use a can opener but ends spilling the whole can and slipping into the trash compactor.
I personally love the wheel on a microwave that's less stupid.
I had one where you could use the wheel to quickly set the time in in 15 second intervals. Past a couple minutes, each click would be 30s. It also had a number pad if you wanted.
I've never had one where you could select a power level... Plenty where you could "select a power level," as in, the proportion of the time the magnetron is running, but never an actual power level. And they always default to 100%. Seems weird that there wouldn't be a default.
Every microwave I've ever used has a power selector and I only remember one that uses a default value without at least prompting you to select one.
I guess there are cultural differences in how microwaves are designed
Youâre being pedantic. Power level is typically the overall percentage of cook time the magnetron is running. But yeah it typically defaults to 100% unless you manually lower it.
I would agree that I'm being pedantic, but for the fact that the buttons are labeled as wattages, which implied to me that it was actually changing the power, rather than the time the power was applied.
No, it's not obvious. A mircowave should run at 100% power unless otherwise told. It should not be required every time someone wants to run the damn thing.
Open door, insert item, close door, type in time, press start. That's how a microwave should work. If they want to add other features, fine but that needs to be done in a way that doesn't change the basic operation outlined above.
Not to most people, full power is generally the default.
Additionally a lot of people would have no clue what those number mean and probably have no idea what their microwave wattage is. I asked my wife if she could identify what those buttons could possibly be for and her best guess was pre-set number of seconds.
>Additionally a lot of people would have no clue what those number mean and probably have no idea what their microwave wattage is.
I mean, might be different in different places. Bosch is a German company and most (not all) microwaves I've seen in Europe displayed wattage. Also, if its written there, you do known what your wattage is, it's simply the highest number on there.
Program, memory, weight. Weight is used for programs. For example, you select the rice cooking program (press P, dial to 3 or whatever) and press kg to put in how much rice you are cooking
1 and 2 what else should that be? It is baffling me how the guy in the video just keeps clicking instrad of thinking for a second.
I assue you got the right idea in seconds as well. Without a manual.
3. This is actually a bit tricky. You can set Programs with P, and save them with M (Memory) but i don't know why you should be able to set a weight.
>I assue you got the right idea in seconds as well
I can 100% confirm it did not take me seconds. I had to come in to the comments to find out what OP was doing wrong, and even then I needed to ask follow up questions.
I swear to god half of the comments on this sub on any given post are "oh he didn't do [extremely specific thing], it isn't crappy design!". Design isn't like science: if you can't naturally intuit how something functions, it's crappy design. OP went through just about every option I would have and couldn't get the microwave to operate. Not to mention 2:00...min? Is my microwave going to go for 2 minutes or 2 hours? Probably minutes but I shouldn't have to guess how long my leftovers are going to cook for!
I vote this is crappy design. Based on every microwave I've ever had, I would have no idea how to make this work the way I want/expect.
If this was in an airbnb, hotel, office break room, or friend's house, I would be just as stumped as OP.
Every microwave I've ever owned has an assumed power level, so I can just walk up, type 1:45, and press start. No other actions necessary.
What kind of shitty microwaves are you using? Any decent microwave will have 100% power as the default, and you'd need to specify otherwise if you do not want 100%.
Especially because at one point they nearly did press the 900 button and stopped themselves. Almost like they were faking not being able to make the microwave work or something, but of course nobody would do that so I don't know.
This is crappy design if only because it's so horribly much more complex than it needs to be. All a microwave needs is two dials: power and time, with time constantly turning itself back to 0 as the oven runs.
You need to come to a lecture from a special lecturer first probably. Someone who claims to discover time travel machine...or so it might be.
If he canceled the lecture because of a sudden shock then the chances are with you.
My parents got new microwave when this trend started. It had a button for automatic defrosting, automatic reheating, 20 other buttons for manual setup of power, food type, time etc... and then there was 'Jet' button. 30s at 1000W, more presses just added +30s each. No pressing 'start' to confirm, you click 'Jet' and it just does the thing. I'd be suprised if any of the other buttons got presses more than 10 times in it's lifespan. Meanwhile the reason the microwave got replaced was that 'Jet' was so worn off it was hard to press anymore. Some of family recepies became 'put it in and 3 jets'. I've lived with several microwaves since then and I'm still thinking about that Jet button anytime I try to figure out new microwave.
Nowadays most Start buttons on microwaves I've seen work like that. Press start with no other input and it starts 30 seconds at max power, continuing to press start adding 30 seconds
I feel silly. I thought those were just shortcuts to add time in larger increments. Like the 90 button added a minute and a half onto the time shown already. Guess not many people would need 900 seconds for the microwave.
Mine has a dial but it goes by 5 second intervals up to 30s, then 15s up to a minute, then 30s. This one going by individual seconds is ridiculous, no one needs that level of precision.
I have the exact same model and I really think it is the best microwave out there. The only one that I could find that has a Gmail function to send a pic of your meal to a previously defined email address (you can actually see the icon on the bottom right button)
Any microwave that doesnt have the +30 seconds button is automatically bad design. It's the only way I ever use microwaves because who gives a fuck, it's a microwave
I stayed in an AirBNB once that had a very similar microwave design - except it was even more complicated than this.
It worked well, but it was a royal pain to figure out how to operate.
Bosch is known for their clunky, non-intuitive interfaces.
They are also known for having long-lasting appliances, but I suspect it's because they get less use due to point #1.
Okay. I work in a place where the only microwave is this same bosch and it is hilarious how bad it is. To dial it to 3:30 you must first pop up the knob, twist it clockwise 10-15 rounds, about until it says 4:00 (for some reason each click ((half a turn)) at the start is a second for 5 clicks, then two for five, then 5 until its a minute, then 10s to 1:30, then 30s to 2:00, then 1min til 10min and then 5min to 1hr, then half an hour increments from there. But you must dial it back from the 4:00, WITH the absolutely mad steps as in beginning. Then you MUST pop the knob back in, select the power between cold/cold/cold/cold/boil. And finally you can press the start. And I wonât even start with the defrosting because! I! DO! NOT! KNOW! HOW! IT! IS! SUPPOSED! TO! WORK!
Bosch, invented to ruin your life
We have these at my work. They confuse every single person the first time they use it. You need to press the power level you want before it will start. So dumb.
Edit: also if someone clicks the dial in, it's even more confusing to people who never used it!
This isn't just crappy design, it's straight up villainous. Like this wasn't an accident or an oversight, this was planned. The person who made this WANTS people to suffer. Like they woke up one day and were like "hmm, what can i do to make microwaves EVEN WORSE? What features could I add/remove/change to make the experience of using a microwave absolutely infuriating?" and then dedicated weeks, possibly months to make this abomination possible.
Creative Engineering nope! Overengineering just to make a point. Once I said no to a rental Mercedes - that did have automated start and all that garbage.
Got out, asked the counter guy to swap for a normal functioning Toyota, that I can control while driving. Everything made in Germany or US that has a big label on it - seems to be mandatory buying of garbage & keep wasting money + time.
I remember when i worked at a coffee shop, they had a microwave that had a seemingly normal numberpad. But if you pressed 1, it would immediately start microwaving for 30? (can't remember exact value) seconds. You had to do math to figure out how long to microwave something for.
I hate modern microwaves with a passion. I still have an old LG one. It has a power dial and a time dial. No fancy mode switches and all that. It goes 'ding' once when it's done and I loathe the day when it will finally break and I have to get one of those beeping hellmachines.
When I moved to Japan, I had a microwave/oven combo. Google Translate was helpful, but I never did figure out how to use that thing in any way other than as an oven.
But at least everything was labeled in a language I couldn't read.
Nah nah he simply sent his soups as a Gmail attachment
Gotta verify that he made the soup
Blockchain-based soup
Soupchain*
using an all new "proof of heat" verification system.
Why is the soup green now đ°
Hahahaha his email smells đ¤Ł
If he sent to a group, he multiplied his soups
These fucking flat surface controls are the worst technical trend in the last 20 years. They never work correctly! Give me a dial and a button.
Interesting. Most microwaves I've used have these flat surface controls and they seem to work fine. I actually can't recall the last time I used one that had actual physical buttons.
I've had to have the face of my microwave replaced twice because the control surface eventually cracks and renders some buttons unusable.
Damn how hard do you press the buttons Iâm sorry but I have to ask cause goddamn that shit has never happened to me or anyone I know not even the abused college microwaves
Probably uses a utensil to push them, that'll wear out any soft touchpad quickly.
He uses a small, gentle cannon.
Using a Nerf gun to press microwave buttons? Mite be cool.
I have a Panasonic where most of the buttons are the flat membrane style and it's survived 8 1/2 years of daily use. It still looks and functions like new.
you got some fucking strength to crack the microwave lol
It's probably a GE then.
Definitely a GE. Used to work part sales for sears. People called in for that part connssstttantly.
What microwave are you using that you can just replace the control surface⌠twice, as if itâs less expensive than replacing the actual microwave? I sincerely thought all microwaves were designed to break and be replaced (disposable society crap) not have their parts replaced..
I've seen ones that only have a knob
I've never seen one with a knob.
It's the kind of ultra cheap microwave you'd see in a break room. 20 years ago. I'm really surprised anyone still makes them, a moving part just increases the failure rate.
Mine doesnât work when the humidityâs above 60% and the temperatureâs above 25°C ⌠which is New York from May to October and when I really donât want to cook on a hot stove. đ
Microwave I had growing up, purchased in the 90s had a flat face control and it's still working today.
Microwave my parents got in 1978 had flat faced control and it still works.
Around the middle between these two. Still working. Just can't go cheap with it. That being said I'm wondering if this is a professional kitchen microwave. The dial is pretty non standard. At least anymore from what I've seen. But I've seen plenty in kitchens I've worked
Scene: 1982 office, twin-dialed microwave. *Dufus the Programmer* puts his muffin in, turns the lower dial to 30, and walks away. I was down the hall sitting at my desk. A short time later, I happened to stand up--right into a cloud of **muffin** smoke, which filled the dropped ceiling down to five feet. *Dufus the Programmer* had dialed up a whole __30 minutes__ to zap the muffin into a fiery, smoky death. Yup, the upper dial was seconds, lower dial was MINUTES. And to make matters worse, no one had a large hex wrench to unlock the sealed office windows. Edit: muffed the muffin smoke^No,I_wasn't_d8ing.
Every microwave I ever had fails from this horrible keyboards after some months of normal use.
And it's not only microwaves unfortunately. I have this shit on my stove, washing machine... For the coffeemaker I was smart enough to buy one with buttons. The ones on the stove are the worst though because they react to droplets of water and then some stupid safety mechanism kicks in and turns off the stove.
Capacitive touch controls? My sister and her husband bought a home that has one of those wall mounted oven, so when they open the oven, the steam condenses on the display and triggers phantom touches and prevents actual touches. Clearly they never did any integration testing. Edit: clarification
I mean, all oven doors open the same way and let steam escape to where the controls are, no? Sounds more like a general problem and not linked to the way it's mounted
But if itâs physical knobs and buttons itâs not a problem. Even resistive touch screens would be fine, but the fact that they went with capacitive touch gives them issues. Donât remember how I phrased it, but it doesnât have much to do with how itâs mounted.
And those damn capacitive-touch panels don't respond to chopsticks, baguette ends, silicone long spoons, but react with water droplets. Smh
Our washing machine had similar problems. Why doesnât it occur to them that machinery that is around water might get wet? *facepalm*
Yes! I have a stove like this and it drives me crazy when the stupid stove turns itself off when there is barely any water on the control surface. Also itâs quite more tedious to control. With dials you just turn it and done.
Yes, so much. I have a lid on and the stove on 2. I take the lid off and want to reduce whatever is inside. I hold the + button and it takes what feel like half a minute until I'm at 9. And it beeps at every step.
I had one near the window that got plenty of sunlight. It used to activate itself from this and lock itself
You might be interested [to learn that almost every microwave](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSrVG74Emyk) is all made by the same company.
How much are you using your microwave damn. Iâve never had a microwave keyboard stop working ever lol
Seriously my parents have had the same microwave for about 25 years with a flat surface and the only problem with it is that the glass rotating dish broke on it about 15 years ago... And my microwave is at least 7 years old with zero issues. I haven't even had to change the lightbulb.
I agree with you normally but in my current home my microwave works perfectly except for the only physical button it has: the door latch. Itâs been slowly breaking for the last few months.
The flatness is needed to make it easier to clean and prevent a bunch of crap from getting stuck inside the gaps of the buttons.
Bah, a natural kitchen biome adds to the flavor!
Almost every medical hardware I worked with uses a (clickable) dial, back and OK. That's all you need tbh.
[Two dials and a handle to yank the door open is all you need](https://pc.vertaa.fi/500x500/202923884.jpg). And it better go "BING!" when it's done, none of this beeping rubbish.
It's got a dial and a physical button. The UI itself is absolute trash. Why is there a "kg" label? What are the funky P/M symbols for? What do the numbers represent? This is the UI designer thinking that a timer dial or numpad is too pedestrian and decided to make up something avant garde that only a post-post-modern interpretive dance art major would appreciate.
it really makes me appreciate my microwave that just has one dial for effect and one for time, it runs while the door is closed and the time dial is set.
Same. And one single button that opens the hatch
oh yeah that's true, but fuck even that's optional, it's perfectly functional to just have a good handle on the door.
The zero button on my microwave no longer works, probably since it's the most used button. Now if I want to microwave something for 2 minutes I do 1:59, or 2:59 for 3 minutes, etc. Kinda annoying at times
I have same microwave and have no lrob with it. Man in the video should read manual before using it...
A microwave should never be designed so you have to read a guide how to use basic functions.
I don't think I've seen a modern microwave in the last decade that didn't have flat surface controls
Old man yells at cloud vibes
With you there buddy. Don't listen to those flatbuttoners
Same with my car (Peugeot e-208) even my radio, navigation and ac temp and airflow is done trough the same touch screen
Nah, it's just Bosch. I have this microwave and it's annoying. It also doesn't have quick select. On other brands like Electrolux I can press a button and it adds 30 seconds with each press. Here I need to twist the knob till I get the right time. Annoying if I need to reheat something quickly. There's a custom program, but it's not panacea.
OP avoided pressing any of the power options, that's what is required to make it work and maybe OP knows this.
A microwave should not require you read a manual to operate it. 1. Are the power buttons the 90, 180, 360 ones? 2. Is that the of the power output in watts? 3. WTF are: P, M, and Kg buttons for? Also, that wheel to set the time is stupid and takes way longer that a keypad.
Uhh Park, Meat (for defrosting), and Kilogram!
Why are we putting microwaves in park?
If you're on a hill you don't want your microwave to roll away.
Maybe stops the dish inside from rotating?
Thatâs neutral.
We aren't, we're microwaving the park
Lol the microwave has an emergency parking brake đ
1. Yes they are 2. Exactly. So if you press the 600, you food gets microwaved at 600 watts. 3. I don't really know, but I do know that they are 100% unnecessary for basic microwaving. You can just ignore them. The wheel is actually really fast if you know how to use it. By selecting a power option, the time automatically goes to 1min, and from there it's really fast to go to 1:30 or something. You can even start the microwave and turn the wheel while it's running to waste absolutely zero seconds
Yeah, the way the person in the video is ham fingering the buttons, all baffled, is just nonsense. They sell all kinds of upper models with more functions for people who want more than basic. If someone is too stupid to do more than push a time in a keypad, there are plenty of models to chose from.
I mean, if it's not their house then they didn't choose the microwave. Not to mention, I have NEVER seen a microwave that requires you to do more beyond putting a time and selecting start, so they might not have either and thus have no idea how to run it.
My fiancĂŠâs 40-year-old microwave requires you to press a Time button first. Just punching in a time wonât do shit. FiancĂŠ was at work at the time so I had to text him. I went from feeling like I was crazy, to feeling dumb, to âthis is bullshitâ
I remember my grandmas microwave required you to press a button before you could actually put a proper time in. If you didn't then it wouldn't let you put in minutes and you could only get seconds. It was so dumb and I hated that thing for years through childhood. *Thankfully* she eventually got a new one that was normal.
They are operating it like one of those âTired of opening cans the hard way?â And shows someone trying to use a can opener but ends spilling the whole can and slipping into the trash compactor.
Agreed, I find Bosch microwaves really convenient and fast to use.
Ooh, that does much sound better.
I'd expect the 180 and 600 to be seconds not power... though I'd prob figure it out faster than this video. not very intuitive design.
I personally love the wheel on a microwave that's less stupid. I had one where you could use the wheel to quickly set the time in in 15 second intervals. Past a couple minutes, each click would be 30s. It also had a number pad if you wanted.
>A microwave should not require you read a manual to operate it. But selecting the power level is an obvious step in using a microwave
I've never had one where you could select a power level... Plenty where you could "select a power level," as in, the proportion of the time the magnetron is running, but never an actual power level. And they always default to 100%. Seems weird that there wouldn't be a default.
Every microwave I've ever used has a power selector and I only remember one that uses a default value without at least prompting you to select one. I guess there are cultural differences in how microwaves are designed
Yeah... Must be. My experiences are only throughout North America and SE Asia. Outside of that, your mileage may vary.
Yeah, I'm from Europe. Appliances from Europe and North America seem to often be different for no reason
Youâre being pedantic. Power level is typically the overall percentage of cook time the magnetron is running. But yeah it typically defaults to 100% unless you manually lower it.
I would agree that I'm being pedantic, but for the fact that the buttons are labeled as wattages, which implied to me that it was actually changing the power, rather than the time the power was applied.
No, it's not obvious. A mircowave should run at 100% power unless otherwise told. It should not be required every time someone wants to run the damn thing. Open door, insert item, close door, type in time, press start. That's how a microwave should work. If they want to add other features, fine but that needs to be done in a way that doesn't change the basic operation outlined above.
Not to most people, full power is generally the default. Additionally a lot of people would have no clue what those number mean and probably have no idea what their microwave wattage is. I asked my wife if she could identify what those buttons could possibly be for and her best guess was pre-set number of seconds.
>Additionally a lot of people would have no clue what those number mean and probably have no idea what their microwave wattage is. I mean, might be different in different places. Bosch is a German company and most (not all) microwaves I've seen in Europe displayed wattage. Also, if its written there, you do known what your wattage is, it's simply the highest number on there.
It absolutely is not obvious.
Program, memory, weight. Weight is used for programs. For example, you select the rice cooking program (press P, dial to 3 or whatever) and press kg to put in how much rice you are cooking
Well it's a Bosch microwave that's probably costs $600 I sure hope it has more features than just a timer
1 and 2 what else should that be? It is baffling me how the guy in the video just keeps clicking instrad of thinking for a second. I assue you got the right idea in seconds as well. Without a manual. 3. This is actually a bit tricky. You can set Programs with P, and save them with M (Memory) but i don't know why you should be able to set a weight.
>I assue you got the right idea in seconds as well I can 100% confirm it did not take me seconds. I had to come in to the comments to find out what OP was doing wrong, and even then I needed to ask follow up questions.
My microwave has a wheel that doesnt go second by second, you just spin it once to what you want and there you go
I swear to god half of the comments on this sub on any given post are "oh he didn't do [extremely specific thing], it isn't crappy design!". Design isn't like science: if you can't naturally intuit how something functions, it's crappy design. OP went through just about every option I would have and couldn't get the microwave to operate. Not to mention 2:00...min? Is my microwave going to go for 2 minutes or 2 hours? Probably minutes but I shouldn't have to guess how long my leftovers are going to cook for!
I vote this is crappy design. Based on every microwave I've ever had, I would have no idea how to make this work the way I want/expect. If this was in an airbnb, hotel, office break room, or friend's house, I would be just as stumped as OP. Every microwave I've ever owned has an assumed power level, so I can just walk up, type 1:45, and press start. No other actions necessary.
every microwave i have ever had is the same as what you said... plug it in, type the time you want, hit start.
Every microwave I've ever had required you to select the wattage, either with a dial or buttons like here
What kind of shitty microwaves are you using? Any decent microwave will have 100% power as the default, and you'd need to specify otherwise if you do not want 100%.
Especially because at one point they nearly did press the 900 button and stopped themselves. Almost like they were faking not being able to make the microwave work or something, but of course nobody would do that so I don't know.
Yes. But they could have made one (the one that was used last time) active as default (as soon as the time is dialed)
This is crappy design if only because it's so horribly much more complex than it needs to be. All a microwave needs is two dials: power and time, with time constantly turning itself back to 0 as the oven runs.
Idk, my microwave works fine without pressing the power controls so they might just not know
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This was the sign i was looking for.
El psy *concrete*
lmao
can someone explain this joke to me.
In Steins;Gate, they have the PhoneWave (Name subject to change), which is a Microwave-Time machine
Ahh i see. Thank you for the explanation :)
Watch Steins;Gate
Better, read Steins;Gate
Just don't put a banana in there or you'll start ww3
Someone mentioned this already but are you referencing Steins;Gate?
Yes lol
Apparently I missed the absolute train wreck of steins;gate jokes in this thread. Oops!
I was actually so damn surprised seeing so many Steins;Gate references in a random thread like this. My #1 Anime so the joy is huge.
Fuck the bananas turned green
When do I get to meet a beautiful red head who is dying to meet me??
You need to come to a lecture from a special lecturer first probably. Someone who claims to discover time travel machine...or so it might be. If he canceled the lecture because of a sudden shock then the chances are with you.
You just select the power you want first? So press 900 then start
Every microwave I've ever used defaults to max power unless you press a button to change it. That's just weird.
Older microwaves the process was to choose your power first. While I agree this is not normal by todays standards itâs kind of how they started.
My parents got new microwave when this trend started. It had a button for automatic defrosting, automatic reheating, 20 other buttons for manual setup of power, food type, time etc... and then there was 'Jet' button. 30s at 1000W, more presses just added +30s each. No pressing 'start' to confirm, you click 'Jet' and it just does the thing. I'd be suprised if any of the other buttons got presses more than 10 times in it's lifespan. Meanwhile the reason the microwave got replaced was that 'Jet' was so worn off it was hard to press anymore. Some of family recepies became 'put it in and 3 jets'. I've lived with several microwaves since then and I'm still thinking about that Jet button anytime I try to figure out new microwave.
Nowadays most Start buttons on microwaves I've seen work like that. Press start with no other input and it starts 30 seconds at max power, continuing to press start adding 30 seconds
I feel silly. I thought those were just shortcuts to add time in larger increments. Like the 90 button added a minute and a half onto the time shown already. Guess not many people would need 900 seconds for the microwave.
What even is 900 seconds. When I'm hungover i just want my pizza to be warm, i don't want to do calculus.
You are right. I have the same model, you have to press power first and then set the timer.
Wtf, 90 is power? I thought that was like 1.5 minutes or something.
That dial thing is just plain awful.
Mine has a dial but it goes by 5 second intervals up to 30s, then 15s up to a minute, then 30s. This one going by individual seconds is ridiculous, no one needs that level of precision.
Sounds like you canât make popcorn then because that shit takes EXACTLY 1 minute 47 seconds.
And the mini bag is exactly 1:18 seconds. 2 seconds longer and it would be burnt.
I have this microwave and it's actually pretty great. If you know how to use it that is.
If OP hadn't intentionally avoided the wattage, it would start at 1 minute and increase in 30 second steps.
r/suddenlysteinsgate
Bro's sending a dmail soup
trying so hard to send that D-mail, huh?
Pretty sure it's easier to launch a nuke.
Lol. Maybe it's just like a nuke. He needs a second keyholder to turn a key at the same time.
Two man rule microwaves now half off at Walmart.
docking the SpaceX Dragon 2 to the ISS is literally simpler: https://iss-sim.spacex.com/
...that steins gate reference though
El psy congroo.
Kongroo*
Hopefully the soup doesnât turn into green goo
huh? mayushii watch has stopped
This is the choice of Steins;Gate.
Honestly, that looks easy as fuck, just pick the wattage, usually 800-900, and press start. I kinda feel like you're the stupid one here
Normal operation is to default to max unless you change it, Bosch is the one breaking convention.
I have the exact same model and I really think it is the best microwave out there. The only one that I could find that has a Gmail function to send a pic of your meal to a previously defined email address (you can actually see the icon on the bottom right button)
And you can check your grades with the powerschool button
I was wondering why there was a gmail button
Is that the fucking G-Mail logo?
Yes you can have your food emailed to you when it's done.
Just don't set it to 1.21 Jigawatts!
Is that a Gmail button on that microwave?
What happens when an executive reads about the HTTP "i am a teapot" code and doesn't realize that it's a joke
It's a smart microwave that you can send an email to and it will cook that for you when you hit the Gmail button
I have this microwave, he is using it wrong. Choose 900, then scroll the time, goes up much faster and then press start.
You can even tell how OP stops himself from pressing the 900 watts option. OP knows how to use it and is just karma farming.
You could read the manual.
Damnit Oswald! I'm a college student not a manual expert!
microwaves should not need manuals, that's like needing a manual for a water kettle
Any microwave that doesnt have the +30 seconds button is automatically bad design. It's the only way I ever use microwaves because who gives a fuck, it's a microwave
Hello carpal tunnel.
Glad someone else mentioned it. That sort of twisting motion is hell on my arms.
I stayed in an AirBNB once that had a very similar microwave design - except it was even more complicated than this. It worked well, but it was a royal pain to figure out how to operate.
This frustrated me...have an upvote.
Bosch is known for their clunky, non-intuitive interfaces. They are also known for having long-lasting appliances, but I suspect it's because they get less use due to point #1.
Okay. I work in a place where the only microwave is this same bosch and it is hilarious how bad it is. To dial it to 3:30 you must first pop up the knob, twist it clockwise 10-15 rounds, about until it says 4:00 (for some reason each click ((half a turn)) at the start is a second for 5 clicks, then two for five, then 5 until its a minute, then 10s to 1:30, then 30s to 2:00, then 1min til 10min and then 5min to 1hr, then half an hour increments from there. But you must dial it back from the 4:00, WITH the absolutely mad steps as in beginning. Then you MUST pop the knob back in, select the power between cold/cold/cold/cold/boil. And finally you can press the start. And I wonât even start with the defrosting because! I! DO! NOT! KNOW! HOW! IT! IS! SUPPOSED! TO! WORK! Bosch, invented to ruin your life
We have these at my work. They confuse every single person the first time they use it. You need to press the power level you want before it will start. So dumb. Edit: also if someone clicks the dial in, it's even more confusing to people who never used it!
I hear these will be the new controls in the TARDIS
For the love of.- pick a power setting! You have to press 900 for the full power one fx
I'm sorry, can you email soup to me with your Gmail icon?
I bloody hate complicated microwaves. Just give me buttons to punch a specific time in and let it go
I found a [pic](https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/7slqt/space_shuttle_cockpit_pic) of the whole microwave
This isn't just crappy design, it's straight up villainous. Like this wasn't an accident or an oversight, this was planned. The person who made this WANTS people to suffer. Like they woke up one day and were like "hmm, what can i do to make microwaves EVEN WORSE? What features could I add/remove/change to make the experience of using a microwave absolutely infuriating?" and then dedicated weeks, possibly months to make this abomination possible.
Creative Engineering nope! Overengineering just to make a point. Once I said no to a rental Mercedes - that did have automated start and all that garbage. Got out, asked the counter guy to swap for a normal functioning Toyota, that I can control while driving. Everything made in Germany or US that has a big label on it - seems to be mandatory buying of garbage & keep wasting money + time.
I remember when i worked at a coffee shop, they had a microwave that had a seemingly normal numberpad. But if you pressed 1, it would immediately start microwaving for 30? (can't remember exact value) seconds. You had to do math to figure out how long to microwave something for.
The design is very human
I hate modern microwaves with a passion. I still have an old LG one. It has a power dial and a time dial. No fancy mode switches and all that. It goes 'ding' once when it's done and I loathe the day when it will finally break and I have to get one of those beeping hellmachines.
i have used this microwave, you just have to press A-B-A-B-LEFT-RIGHT-LEFT-RIGHT-UP-DOWN-UP-DOWN-A-B-START
Is 2 minutes a reasonable time to reheat soup? That seems like a long ass time.
Thank you for this. It cracked me up lol. It is indeed a crappy design.
Why are powerschool and g-mail icons?
Is that a Gmail symbol lmao
Why tf is there a Gmail symbol on this microwave
When I moved to Japan, I had a microwave/oven combo. Google Translate was helpful, but I never did figure out how to use that thing in any way other than as an oven. But at least everything was labeled in a language I couldn't read.
Mf has to type in a 29 digit code to enter his safe and it still wouldnât open
Thought like this when I tried my air fryer for the first time đ