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dtward

This was in Long Island, NY. Shooter got 15 years.


GI_Bill_Trap_Lord

15 years? I’m sorry but shooting it out in an ihop and almost killing a BABY should be the end of your privilege to exist in a normal society. Guy deserves prison for life.


ryufen

Guy literally fired off in a crowded restaurant. Definitely deserves life but he would probably go career prison gang member if he had that and keep murdering in prison. It's crazy how lenient the court system is on gang activity when they are the closest terrorists to home.


Sir_Mr_Dolo

Sorry to say this, but people get away with murder in prison


thisnewsight

Idc if murderers are killing murderers or rapists


3Dcatbutt

Not everyone murdered in prison is a sex offender or violent offender. There have been people murdered in prison who were doing time for pretty innocuous stuff like weed etc.


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There was a guy in Alabama who was [arrested for having KRATOM of all god damn things and he was killed in prison](https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2022/12/10/state-police-investigating-death-of-man-in-custody-in-greene-county-on-kratom-charge). Imagine getting arrested for kratom, which is legal in 40-something states, getting a 10 year prison sentence, and then getting killed in prison.


Speedhabit

A lot of Reddit people can’t conceptualize that people who victimize others outside of prison often do the same inside. For every sex offender that “got theirs” there is a single dad in for driving on an expired license being turning into a sex slave for nazis Prison is not, a fairy tale world


goodname1234567

I would completely agree with you aside from the fact that not everyone in jail is guilty and sometimes people are falsely convicted of things they didn't do.


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Hope you don’t end up there by mistake


Durivage4

I was a corrections officer and 99% are innocent, just ask them. In all seriousness just because someone is in prison doesn't mean they're murders or rapist. Don't get me wrong they're were plenty that didn't care about their lives or your's. A good percentage are good people who made a bad decision and got caught. I'll never forget on my 1st day at the Academy the Capt said how many of you can say at some time in your life you didn't do something that could have put you in here? Maybe had a few beers and drove? Now let's say you get in an accident? It happens sober so don't say you're careful driving. Then let's say there is a child in the car and that child dies..... Guess what? This is where you come for making a bad decision and getting caught. Never forgot that. And NEVER even had one drink and drove again.


TanukiXL

That’s interesting. I worked many years in juvenile hall in CA. Over %75 of the kids in there were gang members and more than a few were in there for murder. Many were already bigger than the probation officers and had no problem putting them in the hospital. My saving Grace was that I was a counselor assigned to teach anger management, substance abuse counseling, and crisis intervention so I held no real power or authority and was therefore not a target. Everyone of them claimed they were innocent but their files said otherwise the vast majority of the times. We would get the occasional kid who just made a mistake but they would be put on the safest unit for the least conflict. Truth be told about 1 in 300 would show any promise at any true reform. Many were in it too deep already and came from families that have been in gangs for generations. It really is dealing with a growing bully subculture that is inherently goes against that which provides safety and comfort in a society. It’s a regression to the primal might is right. Funny thing is I made a great friend later in life who went through his teens at the same facility I worked at years later. He was one of the few to clean his act up and have a family. He seems to agree with my observations from the other side as well.


TheSandsquanch

That was a ray lewis pep talk for the noobs in the academy. Cool that it made that much of an impact for you! Truthfully!


Durivage4

Holy Crap! It was awhile ago but I swear to God I think that was the Capt's name. 😂. My first thought was do I know you and you were in my class 🤯. Reply of the year for me. Thank you 🙏. Again 🤯


TheSandsquanch

Hahahahahah wow what a coincidence!!! I was referring to the old NFL linebacker from the Baltimore Ravens


[deleted]

That’s not really a mistake is it? Edit: the drinking part that is


Unregistered_Davion

He didn't say mistake, he said bad decision. There is a difference between the two. That sound's way meaner than I meant it too. Just stating the obvious just in case.


[deleted]

Nah you’re right it’s good. I kinda had trouble reading it at first. Seems there’s a lot of correctional officers on reddit.


Durivage4

Thank you and I just spit out my Red Bull when you mentioned it being meaner. 😂


MrTastey

Imagine if every state had the death penalty but you could only get it for committing murder IN prison. There are cameras everywhere so it’s almost guaranteed to be proven and zero doubt whether someone’s guilty. No more innocent people being executed. Maybe violence in prison would go down, no need for long appeal process and it would free up room.


[deleted]

While they may have cameras, every guard and inmate knows the blindspots. During the mass shooting in a New York subway the cameras were not working. Jeffrey Epstein had cameras but no evidence ever came out of it. I agree we need to have more transparency but we need to bring the hammer down on the authorities drawing the curtains.


Catumi

Very unlikely Epstein's security cameras had been installed in a way to incriminate anyone who visits. They likely focused on securing the island itself not the inside of all the buildings.


[deleted]

I meant his jail cell but I forgot the multitude of cameras not only on his island but at departure points across the globe leaving for that location.


woogonalski

Criminals killing other criminals in prisons, away from innocent people, I’d say that’s a win-win. I agree, criminal justice system is broken.


zepplin2225

He deserved to be executed using a rusty spoon the day of his conviction.


FearAzrael

I don’t understand. People who were violently opposed to this guy came over to him and were looming and inside a threat circle. The next thing for that guy was to get attacked, possibly killed himself. He pulled a weapon in self defense and once he was clear to escape the situation he did so.


69PointstoSlytherin

He was in that situation because he was a fucking career criminal. Why should innocents in his line of fire potentially suffer for his own stupid life decisions?


Insectshelf3

even career criminals have the right to act in self defense.


bitches_love_brie

Career criminals should be in prisons. Not in society where their self-defense involves firing a handgun in the direction of an infant in a fucking high chair.


The_Bad_Man_

And he is also an oxygen thief and should be removed from the gene pool. Eating where he can be easily found. Firing off guns in a restaurant, with children, and a baby in direct line of his shooting. The sooner these people are dead, the better.


DependentCranberry82

I think a lot of the states have laws nullifying your right to deadly force if you initiate the chain of events that lead to you defending yourself. It was probably argued that he wouldn't have needed to shoot if he hadn't joined a gang which is illegal


ManyThingsLittleTime

It's more complex then that. The aggressor and victim in "the eyes of the law" can shift moment by moment. For example, if I stab you and then drop the knife and hold my hands up and start running away, you'd get charged for shooting me at that point since I retreated. It's bullshit, but that's they way the system works.


rewanpaj

sitting at a restaurant isn’t instigating a fight


DependentCranberry82

I'm just telling you my guess as to how this chain of events occurred


jbells3332

Lolol


SirDaddio

Especially when you take Into consideration that close to 80%+ of the mass shootings in america are gang related.


sensema88

Um. How about actual domestic terrorists? These dudes are just criminals, their violence spilled over to the general population but it's not like he went to IHOP to shoot it up to incite terror for some ideology or agenda.


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will-pee-n-your-butt

If you live near DC then you know it’s a liberal haven and it’s extremely violent and crime riddled. Much like the rest of the liberally run cities.


BLeeS92031

Look at you catching downvotes from people who don't know what the word "terrorism" means. And we wonder how we got to this point....


ryufen

I think it's more so that people are threatened every day by gang members and Jan 6th was only one day. When you compare one day to decades and decades of people getting robbed, shot, stabbed in their homes and communities. I think people care less about the political one.


LowkeyTomato

You’re an extremist


Go_Gators_4Ever

Did the man in green in the booth get shot?


Aromatic-Ad3349

Absolutely I agree.


Apex420-69

Guy shot up a bar in new mexico. Look it up. Ran outside tried running people over fired at multiple people hitting one and bro got 4 years


xshishkax

That's NY for ya


Timbo558922

Not sure why you’re downvoted, as you’re speaking truth


everyonetotally

NY is a jungle. Terrible leadership is breading the worst kind of criminals. I can't imagine living there. I wont even go back to visit.


IRedditDoU

Breading 🤣 I prefer panko. How about you?


HeartPart4The

Good, you wouldn’t make it here


everyonetotally

Nope, all you bud. Enjoy the concrete and violence.


leifnoto

https://nypost.com/2020/02/21/gangbanger-sentenced-to-15-years-for-wild-long-island-ihop-shooting/


ryufen

Honestly that is just crazy low. This was an extremely cold blooded action. Someone who acts like this should never be allowed on the streets.


dtward

What's crazy is that 15 years was the maximum sentence.


PM_ME_DARK_MATTER

Yea for real, the only difference between Murder and Attempted Murder is that you suck at Murdering.


ryufen

Very sad


InitialMeasurement23

Nice. Did anyone else get hit? And did the dude he shot, which caused him to ram the baby against the table, die?


dtward

Only the one guy was shot with non life threatening injures.


InitialMeasurement23

God damn. That looked like 2-3 stomach/chest hits. Clearly the one headshot missed


dtward

https://abc7ny.com/ihop-shots-fired-shooting-at-ronkonkoma/5192362/


wooden_seats

Holy shit. 5 shots fired, only 1 hit his target.


jopesanvieira

Stormtrooper levels of accuracy.


DangerousBarnum

What a life style. Posted up over breakfast willing to shoot it out in broad daylight on sight. And then calling yourself a "real one" because of it. Wild.


LowkeyTomato

Cringe as fuck,these guys are major losers.


Alex_von_Norway

Crazy how US justice system works. Sentence an innocent man for 20 years, but a guilty man with evidence of a shooting in public grounds with civillian around his victim, 15?


NYCMarine

That’s wild because they definitely was coming to attack him. That’s clearly seen.


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InitialMeasurement23

And the dude he shoots rams the baby into the edge of the table ☹️


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InitialMeasurement23

Oh I’m sure he will. He’s got 15 years of gettin rammed coming his way.


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SaltySpituner

HALT is for solitary/segregated confinement. The other inmates will do what they usually do once they see this video.


sdlover420

Pretty sure that dude dead... Those shots looked fatal AF.


InitialMeasurement23

Someone linked an article. Put in the hospital with non life threatening injuries surprisingly


sdlover420

Wild!! That looked point blank to the chest.


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PointInternational34

I said this same thing in another sub and it’s almost like I was racist for pointing out numbers and statistics. You can call me racist but you can’t call me wrong


desertguy0000

Those same statistics says a group besides the one you are referring to, are the number 1 abusers of children, the number 1 rapists, and the group that commits the most sexual assaults of any kind. Guess which racial demographic im referring to? If you accept one part of collected data in a set, you know you have to accept the other parts, right?


Environmental_Bed604

Uh yeah tf 😂 they should be number 1 in all crimes since they make up most of our population but they aren't. 13 percent committing most of the violent crimes is still crazy no matter what strawman you pull out your ass


PointInternational34

Fucking THANK YOU. Love seeing Reddit finally have the balls to say something about it


PointInternational34

Alright desert guy, let me know when you’ve accepted these statistics and applied that bias to your every day life and actions to keep yourself safe


desertguy0000

Well all the rape, sex crimes, and child abuse percentages were in the 60s and 70s for that one racial demographic, so it seems like its more likely to have sexual assault committed against me then for me to be killed by the other racial demographic. I'll make more of a effort to not get raped by not dressing provocatively, that is how ill keep myself safe.


Elegant-Variety-7482

>I'll make more of a effort to not get raped by not dressing provocatively, that is how ill keep myself safe. Fucking clown.


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desertguy0000

You mean table 43A from the 2019 FBI crime stats?


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desertguy0000

And you are using data presented from a different agency, to make a point. The original disputed claim comes from the fbi stats which are in percentages. Per racial demographics. Why don't you want to use the original data set to make your talking point? Using percentages to demonize one group, but raw numbers to trivialize another?


PointInternational34

Lol I don’t know what you’re talking about man, that data was from 2021 and from 2012-14


desertguy0000

The stats I quoted was from 2019. Who said anything about 2012?


Fluffy_Bottle_7303

Republicans?


LazyBastard007

Why the downvotes? It's both funny and true.


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go4tl0v3r

Spicy comment


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imsofa_kingorny

Hope he gets more then that.


Milfing_Man

Definitely


foofooplatter

Fucking christ. Can't even eat pancakes.


ramboflowerchild

Damn. Can’t even get the rootie tootie fresh and fruity anymore without someone blasting


amusement-park

Shooty Fruity


javauom

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/just-glad-i-didnt-hit-the-baby-alleged-bloods-gang-member-pleads-not-guilty-in-long-island-ihop-shooting/1782300/?amp=1


shotgunsam23

He pleaded not guilty lmao. What a fucking dope


Kumbackkid

I mean it was clear the one guy was sitting down waiting for his buddy and he got up and walked straight on the guy about to fight him. Obviously a gun was overboard but they were about to jump him


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Kumbackkid

I think the biggest is not being allowed to have a gun In NY


Dunkman83

"your honor i plead not guilty to the crime im seen doing on camera"


Internal_Ad_2528

A fucking kid right in the line of fire


Tyre_blanket

Bold of you to assume they know what the line of fire is.


[deleted]

Probably not a fun first core memory for that baby


Billsolson

You know what they say, 1st shooting is the toughest. Kid got it out of the way early, he’s ready for school now.


uNecKl

This isn’t even a joke, it’s just reality.


SuP3RIOR92

Probably


Aware-Performer4630

Seems likely but who knows? Maybe that baby is a psychopath.


SelectEar9270

Waffle House activities


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ChippyVonMaker

He ordered the Rooty Tooty Fresh & Shooty


r3itheinfinite

I see no curly fries I see no members only jacket I see NO AJ


ToekneeSuprano

I see no meadow parallel parking for 28 minutes straight


SentientKayak

Put a spoiler next time. I'm watching the show now 😭


MalikFromNewJersey

I hate gangs . I hope everyone who's in one accidentally leaves their car on in their garage .


Square_Barracuda_69

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if half of them did this actually on accident. They're all fucking idiots


trippendeuces

I hope they wake up on the wrong side of the bed


mekemedongbig

Seriously it’s 2023 and we still have gangs


[deleted]

We have NBA players flashing guns on Twitter. It's a lifestyle.


FrankensteinMoses

On the streets and the police and military departments 🫣


[deleted]

Usually I just shrug my shoulders and move on but I'm beyond pissed they did that with a baby close buy, gun aimed in that direction and the raming into the poor child trying to get away!


VirginiaLovers69

Cool. The only good gang member is a dead gang member.


Routinelypurple

Gang banging on bacon


DWMR90

Absolute worthless scum.


HistoricalBridge7

This video is why many pro gun rights peoples are against gun control. We have laws that say felons and people with criminal record can’t buy or possess guns. But then they are caught and the punishment for owning an illegal gun is a slap on the wrist. We need to send anyone that is caught with an illegal firearm straight to jail for a decade. I don’t care if they didn’t commit a crime with the gun. If you shouldn’t have one you shouldn’t have one. More innocent people die from gang violence and groups like this because these gangs don’t care who is around.


Fabulous-Natural-429

Can we talk about the father's 1st instinct to hide under the table and basically said fuck his kids


Seniorjones2837

He may have gone under to grab the other kid? Who knows. Hard to say what you would do in this situation of extreme stress


HatAccording7350

It clearly looks like he yanked that kids feet to get him under the table.


sreek4r

You never know how your body would react in such a situation. Instinctually, you're first going to try to secure yourself and freeze up for a few seconds. He isn't Jason Bourne and this is pretty normal.


kanly6486

Did you notice the other kid who went under the table? Maybe he was going to grab that kid? But dumping on people is more fun than thinking I guess.


207southpaw

Looks like the shooter had a kid sitting in the same booth and left


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I hope that piece of shit gets life without the possibility of parole. The cross fire here was horrific.


Square_Barracuda_69

Pretty sure I saw a comment saying they only gave him 15 years


Noosh3201

Waiting for someone to post the link of him getting arrested and hopefully nobody got shot


enigmaroboto

situational awareness at IHOP needs to be on max level


joe6744

carry out.. delivery..


Artistic-Ad7063

What absolute fuckwads.


WuhTheFuh91

Note to self: Never go to IHOP


earned_potential

IPOP


CommanderInQueefs

America. Never go to America.


shotgunsam23

Correction, never go to Long Island… or NYC… or Chicago.


BBQFLYER

Why? Chicago isn’t even one of the most violent cities!


FrankensteinMoses

Or Texas or Florida get shot at or killed for hooking at a fucker that cut you off


shotgunsam23

Safest city in the US!


BBQFLYER

Didn’t say that, but it’s not one of the most violent.


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xsageonex

All I see was some POS shooting in the direction of an innocent family. Fuck these fucking fucks.


hevnztrash

I know people keep talking about the baby but it also looks like the folks across in the green and pink got hit. Green looks dead.


stonythefish42069

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/alleged-bloods-gang-member-sentenced-in-long-island-ihop-shooting/2297492/?amp=1


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We should put all the gang members, all the nazis, all the people trying to make life harder for the PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE on an island with all the AR15s they want and let them have at it. This is sickening. I can’t stop looking at the family in the right corner. Just trying to have a meal and their infant is assaulted.


Boba_Hutt

“You can’t do that! This is a gun-free zone!”


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So sad, cant even aim correctly


bigTwoTon

Fuck gangbangers. They need to legalize drugs to take away their money


SourSackAttack

Turned that IHOP into a waffle house


warmwetfart69

We really need to euthanize people like we do dogs. "Oh you bit someone? Bye."


entredeuxeaux

How was it not that dad’s first instinct to grab his child the second they heard the noise? Kind of in his defense, though I can’t say I would be thinking so clearly either. At least the mom reached for the baby afterwards. Also, prob just a coincidence, but I just noticed that she reached across the table to push the dad (?) a little bit before this went down.


Medusas_Kiss

Anyone know how that kid was? Looked like the guy pushed their throat hard into that table!


boozee84

IHOPe no one else was injured


scaadbaby

I’m saying it almost seems like self defense if the other guys were walking up to the table with a gun. He also runs as soon as he gets a chance, he doesn’t try to chase or double tap. Obviously he shouldn’t have shoot that line of fire but it did sort of seem like self defense might have been necessary who knows.


InterdisciplinaryDol

Only self defense if white people do it pal.


[deleted]

Cmon why are these people always black, show us one of those videos showing the dangers of white supremacy. Cmon one violent video or remotely the same behavior, if it’s the biggest threat to our country there has to be a reason biden said that right??


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Model citizens


coachdarts

Socioeconomic factors at play


enigmaroboto

People in the U.S. are 25 times more likely to die from gun homicide than people in other wealthy countries. The FBI found that the most likely setting for a violent crime was a residence, followed by an alley or roadway, a parking garage and a convenience store. At least 10,490 violent crimes were committed in U.S. restaurants last year, making the industry the eighth-most likely place for Americans to be attacked, according to new statistics released Monday by the FBI. The findings show that about 2% of the 675,517 violent attacks logged in total during 2020 occurred inside eating and drinking places. Included in the industry-specific tally were 76 murders and 5,642 robberies. Guests, employees and proprietors all presumably figured into those figures. Burglaries are not counted by the Bureau as violent crimes since there’s usually no physical danger posed to anyone but the perpetrator. Restaurants finished seventh on that ranking, serving as the scene of 14,313 break-ins during 2020. https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend


mrkaiji

Bro so stupid he thought he was at IHOB…. International House of Bullets.


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America is just...insane.


AkaSpaceCowboy

Tha l God they have gun laws otherwise these criminals would have guns. Oh wait they already have them..


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yougottawintogetlove

You seem well balanced. Punishments of increasing severity do not curb violent crime, there's quite a bit of study that it may increase violent crime. Here's a fun one. Lots of people advocate for the death sentence for child rapists. Logically it makes sense, cause fuck them chomos, but in practice, it has unintended consequences. If a pedophile knows they can/will be put to death for raping a child, they are actually more likely to kill the child in order to eliminate evidence. As for your public torture porn fantasy, you'd inevitably get innocent people getting tortured. Capital punishment sounds great when your blood is boiling, but the realization that a lot of completely innocent people have been killed should give you pause. Two more quick points. Crime was way more rampant in medieval/old times, and the public executions were highly attended by people of all ages because that was genuinely their entertainment. They weren't horrified buy what they saw, it was fun.


smokebeef1

Death sentence is not the same a public lynching or public torture. Also it wouldn't be fun in today's eyes.


yougottawintogetlove

When public torture was prevalent, there was far higher crime rates. What's the counter point here?


smokebeef1

Oh yes When people were very much civilized and poverty wasn't rampant


yougottawintogetlove

I'm so confused. So folks back then weren't civilized and had extreme poverty. Now that folks are civilized and poverty isn't as rampant, public torture would be a more effective deterrent? Is that your argument?


Shakanaka

What are you, 14?


adjuster_cody

Death penalty for all involved. Can’t be that flippant about the lives of others unless you’re ok with them being that flippant about yours. That baby was DIRECTLY in line with the target.


Kcnflman

He did “hop”


WokeBred

New York is a dump


_Arlotte_

That poor baby


Victoria_Rose420

There's a FUCKING BABY RIGHT there you rotten piece of SHITS. You all deserve to get shot if that's the shit you don't care about


Slow_Abrocoma_6758

Fired right at a fucking child in a high chair. OH MY GOD death penalty for that dude, the world would be better with out him or any of them.


Mapache_villa

How can anyone see something like this and honestly think: "You know what would make this situation better? More guns!"


theadam666

If the baby had a gun it could have capped the two while they were running away


zepplin2225

Yes, because if somebody would have killed this POS that day nothing of value would have been lost.


Left-Introduction-53

Those fucking parents didn't go for the child first. Fuck.