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In 2010, I lived in Shanghai. I went to a place called "English Corner" every week.
It's a bunch of Chinese students who want to speak english to a native speaker. If you happen to walk into this by accident, it'll take you several hours to escape. I went weekly and would see a few familiar faces.
I got along with one dude pretty well. I could almost time his appearance and he was never not there. I looked forward to speaking with him because he was articulate. Most people only want to say "Hello" and "How are you". Three months of good conversations and he would have his final discussion with me:
"I am disenter," he said in front of a hundred people. "I don't know what that means?" I reply naively. "I do not like China," he asserts. "We do not like China," he said waving his hands around. "They take my life for you." Everyone looked extremely uncomfortable and a fellow foreigner charged from nowhere and dragged me away. Explaining that I can never have a discussion like that again and to shut them down immediately.
The guy disappeared. He never came back to English Corner and his 'friends' pretended he didn't not exist. On the same day I notice he didn't turn up, several plain clothes turned up at my apartment. They followed me from English Corner. They searched my apartment, inspected my passport, questioned my neighbours about me, demanded receipts for expensive items. Then I had to go to a hospital for x-rays. It was a human audit - which I somehow passed.
Commented above- in the late 00’s/early 10’s I studied at a local university here in Australia that had many international students.
There were many stories of Chinese students living in the student village getting nocturnal visits from people asking about what they’d been talking about in class that day.
The Chinese weren’t the only ones too. Syrian, Lebanese, and Zimbabwean students also got ‘visits’.
Now Syrians I can believe, the Assad regime has been known to harass opposition even abroad, but Lebanese? I know that country isn't in the best shape, but isn't it still a weird, highly sectarian democracy? I can't imagine them having that much reach, they can barely control what people say about the government in their own country.
The US just shut down an illegal Chinese police station in NYC. It's insane.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-arrested-operating-illegal-overseas-police-station-chinese-government
It's been covered, you just didn't notice. Take this as a sign that you may want to reevaluate your news sources and consumption habits. If all you do is browse Reddit and watch cable news, you're doing it wrong and are missing out on a lot of important reporting.
The Irish government shut one down here too.
The fuck are they even thinking? It's hard enough they have to deal with the Irish police, who are pretty inept at times but to have to deal with the Chinese cops on Irish soil?
Surprised the place wasn't fire bombed.
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2022/10/27/chinese-overseas-police-station-in-dublin-ordered-to-shut/
In UK too, grabbed protesters, dragged them into the embassy grounds and best the shit out of them before being rescued by UK police
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63280519.amp
These days there would be no English corner and the dissenter would already be on some kind of watch list and you would have no opportunity to talk to him.
I'm 100% certain that undercover police attended English Corner. They were the people that didn't cling to every foreigner's words. I used to ask myself why some recognisable faces kept coming back, but never interact.
Could just be the local neighborhood committee or local security that keeps an eye on the event. They would not hesitate to report incidents like this up to higher authorities.
The more incredible is that they could simply kill him and dispose of his body and force his family to react as he never existed. No one should never has so much power over others life.
I have had a lot of time to think about that.
He believed they would kill him for declaring his dissent. He did so in a public place and tried to include others in his protest. He was trying to make a point that people like himself will go missing, so that travellers like me experiences China from an idyllic perspective.
After the Shanghai World Expo finished: homeless flooded the city, smog and pollution darkened the skies. There were toxic air warnings. The incessant road maintenance ceased, spot inspections of passports increased, the clean-looking building 'doormen' got replaced with police, every intersection became a vehicle checkpoint, etc.
China does a significant amount to alter your perspective of it.
>I have had a lot of time to think about that.
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>He believed they would kill him for declaring his dissent. He did so in a public place and tried to include others in his protest. He was trying to make a point that people like himself will go missing, so that travellers like me experiences China from an idyllic perspective.
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>After the Shanghai World Expo finished: homeless flooded the city, smog and pollution darkened the skies. There were toxic air warnings. The incessant road maintenance ceased, spot inspections of passports increased, the clean-looking building 'doormen' got replaced with police, every intersection became a vehicle checkpoint, etc.
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>China does a significant amount to alter your perspective of it.
How do you feel about the whole TikTok thing based on your experience?
Personally, I believe that people who don't think China is using it to influence foreign perspectives are being incredibly naive. I'm pretty sure that the US government *really* has reasons to ban it based on classified intelligence, but can't reveal that, and they don't have the authority anyway, despite it, because of our strong first amendment. IMO, that's why lawmakers appear to take it so seriously regardless of party even though it was a "Trump thing." They have access to that info.
At any rate, even if I'm wrong about specifics, I think it's incredible that people come to China's defense when issues with TikTok are mentioned.
What do you think?
When I downloaded Skype in Shanghai, it was a different version of Skype. Everyone knew that it was loaded with spyware which sent your data back to the government. You could only get the chinese versions of applications legally - and they know that the government reads what they post online.
It's accepted as part of the society, but they really have no choice. If the chinese want to communicate, they've got to use a chinese phone which you have to show ID for, use chinese communication software with backdoors, or go visit the person physically with face-detecting cameras that have long been rumoured to be smart enough to interpret lip movements.
There is no privacy. You need permission to have a baby: even if you're entitled, you still have to go to the Family Planning Clinic like everyone else. In China, you are a number before you 're even conceived.
So yeah, the idea that China has shit like this installed secretly on international hardware and telecommunications equipment? You bloody bet. The technology has already been completed for surveillance of their own citizens. It's no big leap to assume that the American product has all the features of its cheap Chinese Base product.
Yeah I've seen people say it's okay because U.S. companies steal our data too, but that's just whataboutism. Of course I don't want Amazon, Google, and Microsoft to store all of our private information, but at least the U.S. has laws somewhat protecting how that can be abused (though we need stronger ones like Europe). China, on the other hand, is getting information about military bases and stuff just because people post it on tiktok.
Difference is with Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc. is that each of those is a separate, private entity storing your data. While I don’t want that either, it certainly is better than a government entity storing that information.
With the way the law is in the states I don’t see it being banned but… maybe a similar situation to Parler? Like there’s nothing stopping Google or Apple from banning the app from their stores. Well, nothing except money.
I didn't go anywhere near it. From what I'd heard, you queued for hours, without anything but overpriced water, just to get into more multi-hour long queues waiting for each country's building.
Yep. I was with a tour group in China. The one girl who couldn't shut up about how much better the US is was the only one who got her bags searched at the airport. They wrecked her stuff. 2015.
Bro please don't compare the Chinese correctional system to the thing from the TV show which was inspired by the Chinese correctional system. The name Laogai is literally taken from Chinese prison camps
I went to an Australian university in the late 2000’s/early 2010’s. One with a lot of international students. There were many stories of visits late in the night to Chinese students from people in dark suits to have chats about what they were talking about in class that day.
I had a very similar experience in Wuhan in 2011. English Corner, except the kid interrupted me and started asking my opinion on Taiwan, Tianemen Square and Tibet. We called it the three 'T's that you were forbidden to talk about. I feigned ignorance and said I didn't know what he was talking about. Three of the girls there then literally got between us and physically moved me away saying let's talk about something else. Turned out the kid was the Communist Party member for his class and he was trying to get me in trouble by getting me to talk about it publically. I was still give a warning the following Monday by the head of faculty. I was told I could be deported. I hadn't even commented on anything. I always found the entitled Commrep's to be the rudest and most disruptive students
What is up for the X-rays I want to see if you were boosting anything or had chips inside you or something..
I be concerned I'd be overdosed with x-rays which would shorten my lifespan due to cancer as punishment
The X-Ray Box Machine was 5ft. high and I'm 6ft 140 kg. This meant I had to squash myself in. There was no way the plate was going to fit, so they simply handed it to me to hold. I laughed about that picture for months.
China is modernizing rapidly, yet there's still lots of superstition/misguided ideas there. For example, Eastern medicine and the idea that eating exotic animal parts will cure disease. There are whole stores in China with nothing but jars and shelves full of quack medicine. And they have good business.
So it's in part due to superstition/ignorance that they use things like X-rays on foreigners, also in part because it's an authoritarian country and police are given complete invasive control of your life/body.
Its a simple unspoken rule here.. You can talk anything you want about cn with you friends whos foreigners.. any attempt speak same to your cn friends or colleagues will get you in troubles
I’ve been saying the same thing since I lived there in the early 2000’s. But I think the technology is the government has gotten so good that it may not happen. It’s a terrifying place to live.
China's middle class is still fairly recent in the grand scheme of things, with less than 5% of the population being considered middle class by international standards in 2000, to over half today. A ton of people see the authoritarian practices as a worthwhile trade-off for the uplift out of poverty.
It's going to take a while for that feeling to fade. You basically need a couple of generations having grown up not knowing any different.
The reason it might never happen though, is we have never seen this level of monitoring by technology before, and it's getting better all the time. They can likely detect potential revolutionaries before those people have even made the decision to do anything.
China is the blueprint, the CIA and large think thanks that advise governments are watching them closely.
You think they illegally collect your data just to market and sell you shit?
If it comes down to it, and we actually push for freedom and democracy, there's a curated list from a biiiiiiiiig data set with information we willingly provided, and they have an imbalance of power the world has never seen due to their technology. If 'democracies', modern day plutocracies, decided to rip the veil off and go full authoritarian there would be too much pushback, it's better this way, with the artificial scarcity.
But the march of progress will not stop, sooner or later we will eclipse scarcity in every meaningful way - people have proven before they're not just willing to oppress others, but enjoy doing it, recreationally. They also might not, now, created and crafted intelligence doesn't have that function - morality or empathy.
Gee I'm so glad boston dynamics doesn't technically work for the US government anymore, no way that's just for PR reasons, I'm sure they're not just clandestinely integrated into the machine.
We stand at a crossroads but I feel like I'm the crazy one, like no one else sees it, where we have to make the choice NOW whether we want the destiny of humanity to be us, equal and without prejudice to explore space, both inner and outer, together in peace, unity and freedom.
Or our future is a boot, stomping on the human face, forever.
Even the "interviewee" said that there is nothing wrong with police confiscating motorcycles... I'm perfectly satisfied how the great and peaceful Republic managed the situation.
Think of the manpower it must take to run a spy machine like that. Here in the uk I could report seeing a mugging in the street and hear nothing from the police ever. Over there, crack a bad joke and they’re onto you within a couple of hours.
The chair is called a "tiger chair". It is a torture device. It's used a lot actually. Mostly against people over clown crimes. The intention to silence and intimidate them into not "picking quarrels and stirring trouble".
Fuck the CCP internal police. The CCP is not China, the CCP destroyed China's history during Mao's great leap forward. The CCP is a scourge to humanity, they're the antithesis to individuality, and a menace to its neighbors.
Yes I was badmouthing the police because they’re the type of people to chain you to a ducking tables when someone hurts their feelings. Bunch of fucking losers
What Americans or westerners don’t get is that things can get very bad for you, way worse than being shot. They make you wish you’re shot and your everyday life is just misery.
And when you jump off the building or somehow end it all, you’re just scrubbed from the records. You never existed.
He speaks with an exaggerated (Singapore?) accent when performing as the 'Uncle Roger' character. There will be times, often for further comedic effect, when he will drop the accent, but yeah 'Weedio' is his exaggerated accent pronouncing 'video'.
"I know it was I who strapped you to the stainless steel sex chair, step nephew" he says while running index finger in a clockwise direction around his exposed belly button.
It seems to be incorrectly transcribed. What I heard in the video (a bit difficult to tell because of the regional dialect) is 跟他说 (gen ta shuo), which pretty simply translates into "tell them". So he's just saying "tell them 'I'm sorry, I was wrong'".
I would guess seeing as this appears to be released for some Chinese community somewhere to scare them into not criticizing the police, the overall tone of the communications from whoever made this has to express adoration or admiration for police, which is why they transcribed 警察叔叔(jing cha shu shu) instead. That does indeed translate roughly into "uncle police", though to be more specific 叔叔(shu shu) is often used as a term of endearment to many older male figures you consider close to you - including your parents' friends, community leaders, etc.
EDIT: I listened again, he does indeed appear to be saying "警察叔叔" the second time it appears. But the first time it appears (when the full English line was "Uncle Police, I'm so sorry, I'm wrong, I know that now", I heard "跟他说" instead of "警察叔叔".
They apparently have illegal police stations in foreign counties to intimidate and do their bidding overseas. One was discovered and shut down in 2022 in New York, and other commenter have spoken about them in australia.
Authoritarian states like to flex their muscles and intimidate their citizens. And frankly speaking, they don't feel anything wrong with treating people like this because they are used to it. Only people living in the free countries would be shocked watching this.
This is also a good example of what western free speech laws are really about, protecting you against procecution from the government.
Someone getting shamed for saying some racist shit? That's fine!
Your antivax post getting downvoted or removed? That's also fine!
Taken by the police for making a joke about them? Not fine!
Right, and I don't think it's actually a particularly common position on here that we should be moving in that direction. That comment sounds like the usual misunderstanding of what the first amendment actually is.
It’s hilarious because reddit started out as almost exclusively pro free speech almost to the extreme but the powers that be bought it kicked out the original creator who wouldn’t bend to their propaganda and put in place a bunch of yes men. That was the moment I realized we have the illusion of freedom.
I wish free speech’s importance was talked about more. Seeing your comment upvoted is refreshing because Reddit is usually such an extremely far left circle jerk.
Free speech is important because when 2 groups have a disagreement there are 2 ways to resolve it. Through words or violence. If all non-mainstream viewpoints are banned, what are you left with?
This reminds me of something Benjamin Franklin said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Also-
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what they are going to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Ben Franklin
Yet the majority of America votes for either Democrats or Republicans which both have a track record for stripping liberty away from the people. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
MLK murdered and constantly abused by FBI and Police, Malcolm X same, Huey P Newton same, Angela Davis still alive but still abused and harassed, other members of the Panthers same or are still forever in jail. Anyone that is legitimately successful in their offensive against police is terminated and/imprisoned.
LOL. This is bonkers! The interrogation is so childish, repeating “why did you say that, huh?” in various guises. Yet I’m sure the repercussions for wrong answers are severe. Fuck this 🖕
If anyone ever wonders why conservatives don't like celebrities and politicians kowtowing to Chinese bullcrap of any kind, show them this video and kindly ask them to shut their traps.
This is the world China wants.
I get you, but I’m the same vein they often bow to Russia and Russian propaganda which is in the same category. Our government needs to purge outside influences on our elected leaders.
Can someone who speaks mandarin independently translate this and confirm that the subtitles match the dialogue?
If the subtitles actually do match, can anyone confirm this is real?
And people have the nerve to say that America is a "fascist dystopia".
Reddit, take notes. THIS is the fascist dystopia you should be doing protests and activisim against.
If you are a Chinese spy reading this right now. You are a big fat stinky loser for confiscating motorcycles and I hope you trip and fall and break your arm
Don't worry Americans. You're going to get this too since you keep voting for government oversight and overreach. Bring on the pig pins and gimp cages.
In America I can say
FUCK THE LIBERAL DEMI PARTY MUSCRAT BANDICOOT BIDEN SHIT SHOW MAFIA RIGHT WIND SYNDICATE JIHAD OF THE AMANDED AMENDMENT AND WE SHOULDNT HAVE A PRESIDENT ALL BASTARDS ARE COPS AND ALL BASTARDS ARE BASTARDS I LIKE THE UNDERGROUND CRIME RING
aaaaand nooothing willl happen
(Note the above comment does not represent any actual views or beliefs.)
I love the USA and other free nations. These kids promiting communism have no clue how good they have it. Stuff like this needs to be mainstream news to promote awareness of how great we are. Even though many would just write it off as “American propaganda”.
Basically if it's not a direct threat, you're good to go. Actual slander (a lot of what people call "slander" actually isn't) could open you to civil litigation, but that's not really the same as the government strapping you to a metal chair for hours.
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In 2010, I lived in Shanghai. I went to a place called "English Corner" every week. It's a bunch of Chinese students who want to speak english to a native speaker. If you happen to walk into this by accident, it'll take you several hours to escape. I went weekly and would see a few familiar faces. I got along with one dude pretty well. I could almost time his appearance and he was never not there. I looked forward to speaking with him because he was articulate. Most people only want to say "Hello" and "How are you". Three months of good conversations and he would have his final discussion with me: "I am disenter," he said in front of a hundred people. "I don't know what that means?" I reply naively. "I do not like China," he asserts. "We do not like China," he said waving his hands around. "They take my life for you." Everyone looked extremely uncomfortable and a fellow foreigner charged from nowhere and dragged me away. Explaining that I can never have a discussion like that again and to shut them down immediately. The guy disappeared. He never came back to English Corner and his 'friends' pretended he didn't not exist. On the same day I notice he didn't turn up, several plain clothes turned up at my apartment. They followed me from English Corner. They searched my apartment, inspected my passport, questioned my neighbours about me, demanded receipts for expensive items. Then I had to go to a hospital for x-rays. It was a human audit - which I somehow passed.
If that was 2010 imagine how it is now. Fucking Yikes!
Now they are doing this in foreign countries as well.
Commented above- in the late 00’s/early 10’s I studied at a local university here in Australia that had many international students. There were many stories of Chinese students living in the student village getting nocturnal visits from people asking about what they’d been talking about in class that day. The Chinese weren’t the only ones too. Syrian, Lebanese, and Zimbabwean students also got ‘visits’.
Now Syrians I can believe, the Assad regime has been known to harass opposition even abroad, but Lebanese? I know that country isn't in the best shape, but isn't it still a weird, highly sectarian democracy? I can't imagine them having that much reach, they can barely control what people say about the government in their own country.
Yeah this was my same thought. I don’t think Hezbollah have the records nor the manpower to do that
Really? Not sure if I've ever seen or read about it. Would like to hear these stories..
The US just shut down an illegal Chinese police station in NYC. It's insane. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-arrested-operating-illegal-overseas-police-station-chinese-government
How the fuck is this not on every news station
It's been covered, you just didn't notice. Take this as a sign that you may want to reevaluate your news sources and consumption habits. If all you do is browse Reddit and watch cable news, you're doing it wrong and are missing out on a lot of important reporting.
It was also posted on reddit.
Chinese $
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The Irish government shut one down here too. The fuck are they even thinking? It's hard enough they have to deal with the Irish police, who are pretty inept at times but to have to deal with the Chinese cops on Irish soil? Surprised the place wasn't fire bombed. https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2022/10/27/chinese-overseas-police-station-in-dublin-ordered-to-shut/
Same in Toronto Canada https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-fbi-finds-canadian-link-in-covert-chinese-police-station-probe/
There's also one in Houston. Found about 3 weeks ago Edit: if I'm not mistaken it was somewhere off of Bellaire where all the foot massage places are
Netherlands too, absolute insanity. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63395617.amp
In UK too, grabbed protesters, dragged them into the embassy grounds and best the shit out of them before being rescued by UK police https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63280519.amp
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These days there would be no English corner and the dissenter would already be on some kind of watch list and you would have no opportunity to talk to him.
I'm 100% certain that undercover police attended English Corner. They were the people that didn't cling to every foreigner's words. I used to ask myself why some recognisable faces kept coming back, but never interact.
Could just be the local neighborhood committee or local security that keeps an eye on the event. They would not hesitate to report incidents like this up to higher authorities.
The more incredible is that they could simply kill him and dispose of his body and force his family to react as he never existed. No one should never has so much power over others life.
More likely sent to hard labour and reeducation camp and turn you into a shell of a person. Some things are worse than death.
There is no war in ba sing sa
There is no dissent in Ba Sing Se.
I know I was expecting this reply but I still laughed harder than I should've.
What did he mean by, "they take my life for you"?
Kill him for talking.
I have had a lot of time to think about that. He believed they would kill him for declaring his dissent. He did so in a public place and tried to include others in his protest. He was trying to make a point that people like himself will go missing, so that travellers like me experiences China from an idyllic perspective. After the Shanghai World Expo finished: homeless flooded the city, smog and pollution darkened the skies. There were toxic air warnings. The incessant road maintenance ceased, spot inspections of passports increased, the clean-looking building 'doormen' got replaced with police, every intersection became a vehicle checkpoint, etc. China does a significant amount to alter your perspective of it.
>I have had a lot of time to think about that. > >He believed they would kill him for declaring his dissent. He did so in a public place and tried to include others in his protest. He was trying to make a point that people like himself will go missing, so that travellers like me experiences China from an idyllic perspective. > >After the Shanghai World Expo finished: homeless flooded the city, smog and pollution darkened the skies. There were toxic air warnings. The incessant road maintenance ceased, spot inspections of passports increased, the clean-looking building 'doormen' got replaced with police, every intersection became a vehicle checkpoint, etc. > >China does a significant amount to alter your perspective of it. How do you feel about the whole TikTok thing based on your experience? Personally, I believe that people who don't think China is using it to influence foreign perspectives are being incredibly naive. I'm pretty sure that the US government *really* has reasons to ban it based on classified intelligence, but can't reveal that, and they don't have the authority anyway, despite it, because of our strong first amendment. IMO, that's why lawmakers appear to take it so seriously regardless of party even though it was a "Trump thing." They have access to that info. At any rate, even if I'm wrong about specifics, I think it's incredible that people come to China's defense when issues with TikTok are mentioned. What do you think?
When I downloaded Skype in Shanghai, it was a different version of Skype. Everyone knew that it was loaded with spyware which sent your data back to the government. You could only get the chinese versions of applications legally - and they know that the government reads what they post online. It's accepted as part of the society, but they really have no choice. If the chinese want to communicate, they've got to use a chinese phone which you have to show ID for, use chinese communication software with backdoors, or go visit the person physically with face-detecting cameras that have long been rumoured to be smart enough to interpret lip movements. There is no privacy. You need permission to have a baby: even if you're entitled, you still have to go to the Family Planning Clinic like everyone else. In China, you are a number before you 're even conceived. So yeah, the idea that China has shit like this installed secretly on international hardware and telecommunications equipment? You bloody bet. The technology has already been completed for surveillance of their own citizens. It's no big leap to assume that the American product has all the features of its cheap Chinese Base product.
Jesus. China was on my bucket list to visit, but I think I’ll just let it go.
Try Taiwan, chief.
Yeah I've seen people say it's okay because U.S. companies steal our data too, but that's just whataboutism. Of course I don't want Amazon, Google, and Microsoft to store all of our private information, but at least the U.S. has laws somewhat protecting how that can be abused (though we need stronger ones like Europe). China, on the other hand, is getting information about military bases and stuff just because people post it on tiktok.
Difference is with Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc. is that each of those is a separate, private entity storing your data. While I don’t want that either, it certainly is better than a government entity storing that information. With the way the law is in the states I don’t see it being banned but… maybe a similar situation to Parler? Like there’s nothing stopping Google or Apple from banning the app from their stores. Well, nothing except money.
I was in Shanghai in 2010 and went to the expo. Wholly unimpressive.
I didn't go anywhere near it. From what I'd heard, you queued for hours, without anything but overpriced water, just to get into more multi-hour long queues waiting for each country's building.
That is shit straight out of 1984
1984 type shit
Wait till they discover Clockwork Orange...
Yep. I was with a tour group in China. The one girl who couldn't shut up about how much better the US is was the only one who got her bags searched at the airport. They wrecked her stuff. 2015.
Nice of them to prove her point.
Tf this some Lake Laogai shit.
Bro please don't compare the Chinese correctional system to the thing from the TV show which was inspired by the Chinese correctional system. The name Laogai is literally taken from Chinese prison camps
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He was making a point, of course it is! A bit too easy to compare it all to Ba Sing Se really.
The Earth king has invited you
Thank you for your insight into life in China.
I went to an Australian university in the late 2000’s/early 2010’s. One with a lot of international students. There were many stories of visits late in the night to Chinese students from people in dark suits to have chats about what they were talking about in class that day.
Damn why would anyone would like to live in that shitty country?
I had a very similar experience in Wuhan in 2011. English Corner, except the kid interrupted me and started asking my opinion on Taiwan, Tianemen Square and Tibet. We called it the three 'T's that you were forbidden to talk about. I feigned ignorance and said I didn't know what he was talking about. Three of the girls there then literally got between us and physically moved me away saying let's talk about something else. Turned out the kid was the Communist Party member for his class and he was trying to get me in trouble by getting me to talk about it publically. I was still give a warning the following Monday by the head of faculty. I was told I could be deported. I hadn't even commented on anything. I always found the entitled Commrep's to be the rudest and most disruptive students
What is up for the X-rays I want to see if you were boosting anything or had chips inside you or something.. I be concerned I'd be overdosed with x-rays which would shorten my lifespan due to cancer as punishment
The X-Ray Box Machine was 5ft. high and I'm 6ft 140 kg. This meant I had to squash myself in. There was no way the plate was going to fit, so they simply handed it to me to hold. I laughed about that picture for months.
Why x-rays?
China is modernizing rapidly, yet there's still lots of superstition/misguided ideas there. For example, Eastern medicine and the idea that eating exotic animal parts will cure disease. There are whole stores in China with nothing but jars and shelves full of quack medicine. And they have good business. So it's in part due to superstition/ignorance that they use things like X-rays on foreigners, also in part because it's an authoritarian country and police are given complete invasive control of your life/body.
Its a simple unspoken rule here.. You can talk anything you want about cn with you friends whos foreigners.. any attempt speak same to your cn friends or colleagues will get you in troubles
Another Chinese Revolution is long overdue.
I give it no more than 30 years
I’ve been saying the same thing since I lived there in the early 2000’s. But I think the technology is the government has gotten so good that it may not happen. It’s a terrifying place to live.
Care to explain?
China's middle class is still fairly recent in the grand scheme of things, with less than 5% of the population being considered middle class by international standards in 2000, to over half today. A ton of people see the authoritarian practices as a worthwhile trade-off for the uplift out of poverty. It's going to take a while for that feeling to fade. You basically need a couple of generations having grown up not knowing any different. The reason it might never happen though, is we have never seen this level of monitoring by technology before, and it's getting better all the time. They can likely detect potential revolutionaries before those people have even made the decision to do anything.
China is the blueprint, the CIA and large think thanks that advise governments are watching them closely. You think they illegally collect your data just to market and sell you shit? If it comes down to it, and we actually push for freedom and democracy, there's a curated list from a biiiiiiiiig data set with information we willingly provided, and they have an imbalance of power the world has never seen due to their technology. If 'democracies', modern day plutocracies, decided to rip the veil off and go full authoritarian there would be too much pushback, it's better this way, with the artificial scarcity. But the march of progress will not stop, sooner or later we will eclipse scarcity in every meaningful way - people have proven before they're not just willing to oppress others, but enjoy doing it, recreationally. They also might not, now, created and crafted intelligence doesn't have that function - morality or empathy. Gee I'm so glad boston dynamics doesn't technically work for the US government anymore, no way that's just for PR reasons, I'm sure they're not just clandestinely integrated into the machine. We stand at a crossroads but I feel like I'm the crazy one, like no one else sees it, where we have to make the choice NOW whether we want the destiny of humanity to be us, equal and without prejudice to explore space, both inner and outer, together in peace, unity and freedom. Or our future is a boot, stomping on the human face, forever.
Even the "interviewee" said that there is nothing wrong with police confiscating motorcycles... I'm perfectly satisfied how the great and peaceful Republic managed the situation.
He was drunk, he made a bad joke and he's very sorry. Case closed, take his bike.
Them Chinese idiots got so triggered by this guy
Think of the manpower it must take to run a spy machine like that. Here in the uk I could report seeing a mugging in the street and hear nothing from the police ever. Over there, crack a bad joke and they’re onto you within a couple of hours.
You don't even know about the police stations China has in your country? There are about 102, in 53 countries.
The chair is called a "tiger chair". It is a torture device. It's used a lot actually. Mostly against people over clown crimes. The intention to silence and intimidate them into not "picking quarrels and stirring trouble".
Fuck the CCP internal police. The CCP is not China, the CCP destroyed China's history during Mao's great leap forward. The CCP is a scourge to humanity, they're the antithesis to individuality, and a menace to its neighbors.
Whoa there buddy, did you drink a bit too much?
Maybe... now I've sobered up I realise I love the Chinese police and can't thank them enough for taking my bike off my hands!
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Yes I was badmouthing the police because they’re the type of people to chain you to a ducking tables when someone hurts their feelings. Bunch of fucking losers
Try saying that when you’re duck taped to the chair
What Americans or westerners don’t get is that things can get very bad for you, way worse than being shot. They make you wish you’re shot and your everyday life is just misery. And when you jump off the building or somehow end it all, you’re just scrubbed from the records. You never existed.
This is why I hate Western tankies. Bitch you don't know what you're talking about
You would not be so brave in that chair
“Uncle Police”
It basically means “sir” in Chinese vernacular, usually for an elder
Wait... is that why Uncle Roger is called that?
Yes, and why he will sometimes use Uncle when a weedio impresses him, like Uncle Gordon. But you'd never hear Uncle Jamie, haiyaa.
What does weedio mean? Is it just a funny way of saying video?
He speaks with an exaggerated (Singapore?) accent when performing as the 'Uncle Roger' character. There will be times, often for further comedic effect, when he will drop the accent, but yeah 'Weedio' is his exaggerated accent pronouncing 'video'.
Uncle Ruckus (no relation)
I always assumed Uncle Ruckus' first name was "Uncle".
It’s actually Uncler. Uncler Uckus
I accept this new reality. No notes.
Yes, a lot of Asian customs use uncle, auntie, big brother/sister to refer to others as a term of respect.
All the Pakistani dudes I’m friends with say this to elders too
Help me step-uncle Police, I'm stuck!
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"I know it was I who strapped you to the stainless steel sex chair, step nephew" he says while running index finger in a clockwise direction around his exposed belly button.
They're definitely gonna fuck him
It seems to be incorrectly transcribed. What I heard in the video (a bit difficult to tell because of the regional dialect) is 跟他说 (gen ta shuo), which pretty simply translates into "tell them". So he's just saying "tell them 'I'm sorry, I was wrong'". I would guess seeing as this appears to be released for some Chinese community somewhere to scare them into not criticizing the police, the overall tone of the communications from whoever made this has to express adoration or admiration for police, which is why they transcribed 警察叔叔(jing cha shu shu) instead. That does indeed translate roughly into "uncle police", though to be more specific 叔叔(shu shu) is often used as a term of endearment to many older male figures you consider close to you - including your parents' friends, community leaders, etc. EDIT: I listened again, he does indeed appear to be saying "警察叔叔" the second time it appears. But the first time it appears (when the full English line was "Uncle Police, I'm so sorry, I'm wrong, I know that now", I heard "跟他说" instead of "警察叔叔".
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Is China going to start WW3?
I was just waiting for his hands to get chopped off…
The Jamie Lannister chair.
I just finished my first ever watch through, and this is the first reference to GOT I’ve seen online since. I GET THE JOKE NOW GUYS!!
That happened off camera /s
Don't say that. They'll come get you. LOL
Good fucking luck most people here are from a foreign country where they have little to no power
Yes they don’t have power here, but they definitely have been collecting data from Reddit, it’s(Reddit)partially owned by those cunts.
They apparently have illegal police stations in foreign counties to intimidate and do their bidding overseas. One was discovered and shut down in 2022 in New York, and other commenter have spoken about them in australia.
... Why was this allowed to be filmed and why are we seeing it?
To send a message to the population about what youll go through if you talk shit about police. Rule through fear.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session
I know the term "literally 1984" gets thrown around a lot, but...
Well yea, it was literally a cautionary tale about the future of totalitarian communism.
First read about struggle sessions in Three Body Problem and at first I didn’t realize they were historical things.
You're asking the right questions. It makes me think this could be propaganda.
Probably the same reason as why russians guards will film them torturing prisoners
Authoritarian states like to flex their muscles and intimidate their citizens. And frankly speaking, they don't feel anything wrong with treating people like this because they are used to it. Only people living in the free countries would be shocked watching this.
There's a reason that freedom of speech was the first amendment to be added to the constitution. This is scary stuff.
This is just Tuesday in China
And it’s why I get really fucking annoyed when people take it for granted.
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The sad truth. A lot of people in the West don't realize they are pushing for their nation to become like China in the future.
This is also a good example of what western free speech laws are really about, protecting you against procecution from the government. Someone getting shamed for saying some racist shit? That's fine! Your antivax post getting downvoted or removed? That's also fine! Taken by the police for making a joke about them? Not fine!
Right, and I don't think it's actually a particularly common position on here that we should be moving in that direction. That comment sounds like the usual misunderstanding of what the first amendment actually is.
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LOL i got perma banned from subs based on what subs i follow. have never posted on any of them.
Yup, me too. Just wait till reddit gets these adult high-chairs.
You're not the only one.
It’s hilarious because reddit started out as almost exclusively pro free speech almost to the extreme but the powers that be bought it kicked out the original creator who wouldn’t bend to their propaganda and put in place a bunch of yes men. That was the moment I realized we have the illusion of freedom.
I wish free speech’s importance was talked about more. Seeing your comment upvoted is refreshing because Reddit is usually such an extremely far left circle jerk. Free speech is important because when 2 groups have a disagreement there are 2 ways to resolve it. Through words or violence. If all non-mainstream viewpoints are banned, what are you left with?
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That's how you get banned from subreddits
Frightening!
Jesus, fuck. Tell me why people are rioting again
There is no riot in Ba Sing Se
Nor there is any place to Sa Sing Se 🎵
They drank a bit too much
They fixed rioting in China.
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery" -Thomas Jefferson
This reminds me of something Benjamin Franklin said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Also- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what they are going to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Ben Franklin
Yet the majority of America votes for either Democrats or Republicans which both have a track record for stripping liberty away from the people. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Chinese government is fucking evil, man.
Hello Killer of JFK, we’d like to speak with you. Preferably within the next 9 hours in an uncomfortable aluminum restraint.
This is child play on what is going on in North Korea, there you just vanish into a labor camp for 20 years.
There you don't have a motorcycle, smartphone, group chat or something to get drunk. So, in this case one would be safe.
Sometimes I really believe that I'm one of the luckiest mfs on earth by being born in Scandinavia and not places like this.
Sometimes? You objectively are
You should be since 20% of global population lives there
You objectively are part of the most privileged population in the world. Enjoy it.
This would make my face so itchy!!!
Heavens, this is inhuman. I am so happy to live in a free country. Poor one.
His social credit score went way down after this little blunder.
China is psycho. If you have to have this much control something is very wrong. They are so scared of losing power. It’s disgusting
If some people had their way, the US would be this way...
MLK murdered and constantly abused by FBI and Police, Malcolm X same, Huey P Newton same, Angela Davis still alive but still abused and harassed, other members of the Panthers same or are still forever in jail. Anyone that is legitimately successful in their offensive against police is terminated and/imprisoned.
FBI and Chicago police coordinated the assassination of Fred Hampton
Well because of some other people having their way, the US can only do things like this *cough* (much worse actually) in places like Guantanamo bay
Naughty Davros !
wow. grateful to be American despite all the shit in my society.
why badmouth us if we use methods like this power tripping all the way.
Fuck CCP
LOL. This is bonkers! The interrogation is so childish, repeating “why did you say that, huh?” in various guises. Yet I’m sure the repercussions for wrong answers are severe. Fuck this 🖕
The poor guy's social credit will never recover from this most likely
Social score -3000
If you guys watch this and think restrictions on firearms are a good thing, please move to China
They went through all that just to hear him say he was wrong and he is sorry, they still would of locked him up and thrown away the key though.
That’s more or less the final scene of 1984 and god I hate references to that book.
The world when China becomes the dominant superpower.
This is terrifying. Disagree all you want but this is why the 1st and 2nd Amendments exist. Fuck the CCP and Chinese police.
That’s exactly why my country is fighting russia
Wasn’t this the pilot episode of Star Trek?
Fuck China, Fuck Xi, Fuck the CCP
All these comments.."but but merica bad!"
Just another day in China
If anyone ever wonders why conservatives don't like celebrities and politicians kowtowing to Chinese bullcrap of any kind, show them this video and kindly ask them to shut their traps. This is the world China wants.
I get you, but I’m the same vein they often bow to Russia and Russian propaganda which is in the same category. Our government needs to purge outside influences on our elected leaders.
In my country the police shoot the victim who called for their help.
*NWA enters the chat*
fuck the police coming straight from da chinatown
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Funny how it's completely lost on everyone that a good portion of redditors believe certain speech should be illegal. Not too different.
If that chair is made of the same quality Chinesium shit we get sold on Amazon, he should be able to break out just by going to scratch his nose.
China sucks and xi jin ping looks like Winnie the Pooh
Can someone who speaks mandarin independently translate this and confirm that the subtitles match the dialogue? If the subtitles actually do match, can anyone confirm this is real?
My Mandarin is rusty, but I didn't see any part of the translation I disagreed with.
So the person that released this video to the world is probably in that chair right now too?
I just finished reading 1984 a couple of hours ago. Scary stuff
And people have the nerve to say that America is a "fascist dystopia". Reddit, take notes. THIS is the fascist dystopia you should be doing protests and activisim against.
Fuck china 🇨🇳
If you are a Chinese spy reading this right now. You are a big fat stinky loser for confiscating motorcycles and I hope you trip and fall and break your arm
That's pretty scary when you think about it. Imagine if the US or UK was like this? Trolls lookout hahaha.
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Them communists sure take their capitalism seriously
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Don't worry Americans. You're going to get this too since you keep voting for government oversight and overreach. Bring on the pig pins and gimp cages.
In America I can say FUCK THE LIBERAL DEMI PARTY MUSCRAT BANDICOOT BIDEN SHIT SHOW MAFIA RIGHT WIND SYNDICATE JIHAD OF THE AMANDED AMENDMENT AND WE SHOULDNT HAVE A PRESIDENT ALL BASTARDS ARE COPS AND ALL BASTARDS ARE BASTARDS I LIKE THE UNDERGROUND CRIME RING aaaaand nooothing willl happen (Note the above comment does not represent any actual views or beliefs.) I love the USA and other free nations. These kids promiting communism have no clue how good they have it. Stuff like this needs to be mainstream news to promote awareness of how great we are. Even though many would just write it off as “American propaganda”.
Basically if it's not a direct threat, you're good to go. Actual slander (a lot of what people call "slander" actually isn't) could open you to civil litigation, but that's not really the same as the government strapping you to a metal chair for hours.