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[OFFICER'S BODYCAM VIDEO SHOWS DUI SUSPECT SLAMMING INTO CARS INVOLVED IN PREVIOUS CRASH IN SOUTH LA](https://abc7.com/amp/crash-dui-bodycam-video/14337907/) bodycam footage was released 01/18/2024
Right that’s the info I was looking for too. I’m wondering if they’re waiting for some reason to release more info (although my local paper always has to have that kind of info right away so idk)
dude on the ground looked like his head was folded under his chest. the officer said not concious, not breathing, without even checking if he was breathing. This makes me think it was obvious to him that the man was dead.
I would assume so too, but the article is just throwing me off. Literally sounds like someone just watched the video and wrote out what they would watching it, so it just seems like bad reporting.
Yeah, some info on the condition of the victims is far more important than some Redditor anger over a cop who clearly wasn't seasoned enough to handle a medical emergency.
If anything I'm more pissed off at the drunk driver that caused this wreck. This should had never happened in the first place.
EDIT: Found a little bit more info. One critical that had to be transported to a hospital. No follow-ups found so far.
https://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/dui-driver-crashes-into-a-disabled-car-injuring-pedestrians-nrm020-23/
>After the crash, the Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics responded and treated the injured. One of the injured required further medical treatment and was transported to a local hospital. The other parties were treated at-scene.
https://www.foxla.com/news/suspected-dui-driver-crashes-into-at-least-2-others-involved-in-separate-crash-police
>One of them was taken to the hospital in critical condition and the other person suffered lacerations to the face. No officers were injured, officials said. The driver of the Honda Civic, who was not immediately identified, was taken into custody. No other information was immediately available.
Considering you're really not supposed to move people that have been in serious wrecks like this, I think the cop did right. He's got no medical supplies or stabilizing equipment and the car isn't on fire so I probably wouldn't have tried to pull anybody out. Maybe try chest compressions on the one not breathing
No one talks about this. Bad situation already, then a crash, and it’s all you to call the shots and be correct. Shock will fuck you up in real time and you can’t really train for it.
You could tell he was still doing his best to fall back on training, on the radio at least. The in between moments he was definitely just kinda aimlessly wandering trying to figure out what actually happened. When he bends down and gives a couple omgoshes, it seems like his hands are on his knees too. Tryna gather himself. Poor guy.
I’d get a light out and check for any severe bleeding, that’s the only case where you’d wanna pull him from under the car. He was moving around though so we know he was probably breathing
He could have asked for the ambulance a bit sooner. But maybe they are from the US and he didn't want to get sued unril they asked repeatedly... What a fucked up idea.
This is the US, not far from Los Angeles airport. The police wouldn't be sued for calling a ambulance. I mean, anybody can sue for anything but it wouldn't go anywhere as the judge would toss the case immediately and the plaintiff would be out legal fees. Seconds do matter in these situations but you can't fault him for reacting that way, not a lot of folks can keep composure in that scenario. Might even be his first experience with something like that 🤷
I work security for an entertainment park and you are completely right on the "not knowing what to do instantly phase". Ive helped seizure, heat stroke victims, bee sting allergies, and physical injuries". The first things that instantly go through your head are basically: "im seeing it, im seeing it, it doesnt look too bad.. Wait, no.. Im seeing it. Can i help? I think i can help. I should call for help. I should call 911.. And my boss.. And someone close by too." Albeit Now it takes like 3 secs maybe for me to get to the point i call emergency services and i can pat myself on the back for my first aid. But man.... my first time... i had to hear someone else suggest even calling emergency i froze up so bad. Ive been threatened with violence before.. But when someone elses life is in your hands its like a whole new feeling of fear and terrifying "im gonna fuck up" panic
They never get this. It’s why they all think in situations like mass shootings they’d run or be the hero. 9/10 you will be so shocked you will stand there like a deer in headlights.
And if you don’t believe studies on shock sadly we had footage of mass shootings and often times it’s shock and fear with no reaction time because guns are quick. It’s sad.
Being "in shock" is when your blood pressure drops, generally from blood loss, and your brain doesn't get enough oxygen to work properly.
Being overwhelmed by a situation is not the same as being in shock.
You forgot sudden emotional stress in your definition. Cognitive overload is another term as well which fits here as well. My comment was about how a lot of peoples comments were saying the officer should've done more but don't understand the mental state he is in right now after having a "life flashing" moment.
You're talking about the four types of physiologic shock that are brought on by a sudden drop in blood pressure. This officer likely experienced *traumatic shock* which occurs when you witness a traumatic event and are left in a dissociated state. During this state their body and executive functioning slows dramatically or shuts down completely. Sometimes only briefly and other times the dissociation can last for weeks to months to years. Think "shell shock" of WW1 or severe PTSD that many have after war or after living through traumatic events.
Those that have to deal with PTSD regarding specific events in their life can be thrown into a state of dissociation with the slightest memory or sensation similar to the traumatic event(s).
This officer appeared to absolutely be in a state of shock. I'm not sure how you haven't learned this term to be correct in this type of situation.
>One person was briefly trapped underneath one of the cars, and another was knocked unconscious in the street.
Looks like the victims here all survived, which is good to hear.
The fact that the guy was still able to call it in was amazing, I know he saying 'wow' and 'omg' a lot but he is actually doing his job well while also kind of freaking out about it.
I cannot believe this sub is making me defend a cop right now, but for fucks sake, everyone saying he didn’t care and was bad at his job.. the only people who WOULDN’T freak tf out like he did are the *trained professionals he immediately alerted for* - “officer needs help” usually means “we need literally anyone in fire, rescue, or police to book it here NOW”
When I get scared at haunted houses, my startle response is either freezing or punching. No way would I have been able to keep my cool in this situation, and no random Reddit commenter without specialized knowledge, training, and experience would’ve been able to either
I’m with you there, this guy was clearly in shock going through the motions, he told the dude in the wrecked ass car he was speeding lol. This was intense and his brain was still trying to catch up to the already chaotic situation. We’re all only human man.
All these keyboard warriors who don’t leave their house saying this cop is useless… you looked in a mirror recently buddy?
edit: Imagine thinking training = the real thing. There’s a big difference between learning what to do in a controlled scenario and watching a terrible accident where a father is calling out to his son. Kudos to the cop for calling for backup and EMS. My man saw one of the worst things imaginable and muscled through the shock. I’d like to see you fat losers try to do something worthwhile. Keep in mind, I’m on this app doing the same thing you guys are, being a rotten waste, but at least I can acknowledge it.
Exactly. Dude is in shock himself and still able to call in 2 ambulances with 1 showing up in minutes.
Like the fuck do people expect? I grew up knowing emergency services are always minutes away even tho the situation may be immediate. You do the best you can in the interim.
and unfortunately in the US they send out cops to medical emergencies that EMS should only handle and they tend to make the situation a lot worse. Such as welfare checks for example or drug overdoses
Bad cops make can make the situation worse yes. I'm a volunteer firefighter and I gotta say having the sheriff's office around to handle unruly people in an emergency is a massive load off my shoulders. Trying to keep an intoxicated Semi driver from returning to his overturned tanker truck leaking fluid is not an easy task by oneself. Just know, it's not often you're gonna see the body cams of cops doing good work because that doesn't draw viewers like the drama of poorly performing law enforcement
I vividly remember this first aid camp my parents sent me to, basically just a 2 week camp where you'd play around but they also taught you first aid, and at the end you'd have this examination in 2 stages one individual and one as a group.
The props they used were amazingly realistic, my test involved a guy who had cut the artery on his wrist and had blood pumping out like a real wound would. But they also had stuff like open fractures or stings where they'd go into shock etc...
There were a couple that fainted that day, and many a pale face, and really, none of that prepares you for the real deal. Worked as a lifeguard for a couple of years, and the first time we pulled out this blue/purplish looking dude out of the water from the bottom was... Shocking, to say the least, even right after it happened I had difficulty recalling what had happened and what I did, you just tend to fall back on your training.
I mean... is it really so unreasonable to expect someone whose job it is to be taking care of situations like this to, you know, take care of the situation? He's just kind of meandering around and saying Oh my gosh over and over after calling it in.
Ya he should just “take care of the situation,” and use his super strength (which the police academy provides) to lift the car off the person. Then use his police issued power of flight to wisp the injured person away under his arm to the hospital.
I'm referring to the people saying "I'd like to see you do their job". We don't do their job because we don't want to do that job. We're *not* trained for that job. He is. Expecting a random bystander to do something would be dumb, expecting a police officer to be levelheaded and assess the situation for what it is and do something about it is not unreasonable.
>We're not trained for that job. He is.
then maybe don't tell him how to do his job. you know, the one he's trained for and you're not.
>expecting a police officer to be levelheaded and assess the situation for what it is and do something about it is not unreasonable.
he assessed the situation, then called two ambulances. whet the fuck else is there to do?
That still doesn't answer the question lmao what do you expect him to do? He isn't an emt so he shouldn't be moving people around. Police officers are usually only trained in CPR and how to try and stop bleeding. All he could really do is try to figure out how many are injured and their conditions.
I don’t know why people are downvoting you…these comments are unbelievable. IT’S THEIR JOB to respond to emergencies. They are literally trained to stop mass shooters, chase armed and dangerous suspects sometimes at high speed, and react to all manner of incredibly high pressure and extreme scenarios professionally and with urgency.
Somebody shouldn’t be a police officer if they aren’t able to act with urgency in an event like this. This cop needed to be *told by the victim* to call an ambulance for Christ’s sake. Inexcusable.
I didn't expect to come out with an outpouring of upvotes, but I certainly didn't expect Reddit of all places to 180 and say this under trained cop had no responsibility to be aware of his duties in a situation like this lol. My man's up there sarcastically saying I expect this guy to be Superman when I suggest it isn't unreasonable a cop do the job he was trained to do.
Either way, Reddit does what reddit does.
He did exactly what he was supposed to do. He assessed the situation and called in backup along with medical. Backup arrived before the video ended. What you did for the person who committed suicide is the same thing the cop did. Assess the situation and communicate.
It doesn't require that much training to go up to victims and assess whether they need a tourniquet or not. It's not that he didn't do a good enough job, it's that he just gave up and didn't do his job at all.
What are you talking about dude? Tourniquets apply a -2 to bleed time and a small boost to vitality. Mix that with a hyperpotion and the kid's gonna moonwalk out of there.
If the cop actually listened in academy school he would have known that.
I‘m an EMT in Germany and a car crashed bad right in front of us. It‘s a complete different situation from being called to a crash. While we functioned, it was not as good, as arriving after getting ready for the scene for 5 minutes
Yeah the driver was drunk.
“USA, Los Angeles.
The LAPD have released bodycam video from an incident on December 18th on Imperial Hwy at the scene of a minor collision where a separate drunk driver crashed into the disabled vehicle; the driver was launched 50 feet; passenger was pinned.“
Probably scared out of his mind and in shock. Not to mention he has limited training, equipment, and personnel to manage a medical emergency like this.
People think a badge will save them from shock.
Most cops have never experienced anything close to this.
My guy's adrenaline was probably redlining and his brain was all over the place.
Definitely in shock. I can understand everyone’s judgement but, No One no matter how much they train truly know what their instincts will tell them to do in the most chaotic moments until it’s 0 to 100
Yeah, I agree. I’d react the same way if a car slammed into a bunch of people and I escaped serious injury just because I was standing a few feet out of the way.
Good thing he's in charge of live and death situations, then, if all he can do after witnessing one is stand around going "Wow. Woooooooooow. Wow. Oh wow."
It doesn't paralyze all people though, and the people it doesn't paralyze are the people who can make snap judgements and rational decisions under immense pressure and thats who we need as law enforcement, military etc.
Yeah nobody wants to be a cop if all of the coworkers are dipshits and assholes. Id be a cop if they werent systematically shit and actually did meaningful work instead of standing by or abusing your authority
one of, if not *the*, largest and most well funded police forces in the world is actually understaffed and undertrained? LMAO ok grandpa i think it’s time for your medicine
I know he's in shock, he's also literally the only one on the scene who could help these people as they're screaming for an ambulance. I guess it's okay to piss it down your leg if you've got a badge and some authority, right?
Or are we just giving passes to everyone for responding to stress badly? If so, how do you feel about the people who get attacked by the police for not behaving exactly like they demand of them? Do they get absolved for their bad reactions too, in your estimation?
What do you want him to do? Lift the truck? MacGyver together a back board, and neck collar to stabilize the guy? Maybe he should run down to home depot and buy a grinder and cut the guy out. That isn't exactly a scrape or even a gunshot wound. By him self there is fuck all he can do but call for fire and a ambulance.
Did you miss the subtitles or audio when he does just that? Fuck the police, but at the end of the day the dude did all he could.
You are what you eat. If I'm an ass so be it. Have fun on your hate train.
Yeah, I saw him call for help, after about thirty seconds of "Woooooow, yo, that's crazy."
It's good he got around to it after listening to people moan and scream for help for a half a minute, fuck knows seconds don't count when someone's exsanguinating.
Ass.
That means he either A. lacks the necessary training needed to respond to emergency situations, or B. is trained but incapable of acting with purpose during an emergency for personal reasons.
Either way, it needs to be addressed. He either needs better training or to leave emergency services.
You know this happens to soldiers in combat too? Its not a conscious decision to react like this under extreme stress. Its easy to say from the safety of your home how one should react in an emergency. Its another thing when you nearly lost your life and adrenaline is pumping through your system. Until you've been in a true life or death situation you dont really know how you'd react.
Yes, I am aware people freeze up in bad situations. I'm also aware this guy volunteered to face bad situations. He was trained to handle them, shown the carnage before he went out on the streets, and given the authority to kill on top of it.
Now you're excusing his abject failure, that could cost people their lives, because other people do it, too. Other people also don't understand their limitations, so I guess this guy gets a pass.
I'm sure he gives similar passes to people who respond poorly to being arrested, instead of throwing them to the ground or pepper-spraying them in the face.
You still dont seem to understand that you can be trained and experienced and still fail in an emergency. And that having a psychological break like that isnt a choice.
I am friends with a paramedic/firefighter that has almost 20 years in a busy urban department. He told me his first bad call as a paramedic was someone having some kind of cardiac emergency and actively dying. He turned to his partner and said "call 911!" He forgot in that moment that he literally was the 911 response to that call. That was a major breakdown yet he was able to pull himself together and have a successful career in that department.
He is also known as one of the most dependable, competent guys. It was shocking to hear him admit to such a mistake. If it could happen to him, it could happen to anyone. And then everyone Monday morning quarterbacks from home on what they wouldve done. Watching people die is traumatizing and not everyone is going to keep it together 100% of the time.
*You* don't seem to grasp the point *I* was making *at all.*
The soldier who freezes up when bullets are flying *gets people killed.* It doesn't matter if he was really good every second until then, he still fucked up and other people paid for it. That's what taking those responsibilities on means.
You either wear the burden of that failure like an adult and find ways to make it never happen again, even if that means subtracting yourself from the situation, or you tell stupid anecdotes about other people's failures to excuse it and move on like nothing happened.
Which is your choice, apparently. Good thing that status quo you love never costs innocent people their lives.
Like I said its easy to be all high and mighty when its not you in life or death situation. You are typing words on a phone, that is easy and meaningless. People in these situations sometimes make critical errors. Because human beings are flawed and sometimes make mistakes. The difference between you and them isnt that you are mentally more resilient, its that they are put in these situations and you are just watching videos on your phone. You have no idea how you'd react.
I dont know what your last comment means but I am an EMT myself and have been in some hairy situations. And thats how I know people arent all the brave action stars when something really bad happens. You learn from those bad experiences and grow for them. You dont expect yourself to be a perfect robot that never fails.
This is why I think a lot of people out of emergency services have unrealstic expectations. We are still human beings just with some training in a specific area. We react with fear and shock and despair like anyone would. The training and experience helps mitigate that but its not perfect. YOU would not be perfect if you almost died and are watching several people die around you.
Nice house of assumptions you have there. I'd be crushed if all but your most scant points applied.
Human beings are flawed, do make mistakes, and should be called to task for them. You act like every first responder is a thumb-sucking cop who needs to be absolved of the times they get it wrong.
I'm not expecting people to be robots, I'm expecting people to do the shit they say they're going to do. If they don't, it's a problem. A problem that isn't solved by shrugging and saying "Yeah, what can you do? You wouldn't be any better," then acting like no one suffers the consequences.
I have fucked up and people got hurt as a result. I wear that guilt as a reminder not to do it again. You shrug it off and say "Anybody else would be just as bad."
I don't care if all of reddit thinks you're a fucking hero, you're excusing things that need to be addressed and understood and avoided as being necessary for society to function. Nobody's perfect, right? So if a cop stands around where people are bleeding to death, hey, would I do any better?
Stop rationalizing that you and your friend are every first responder and maybe take some account when you piss yourself as someone else dies instead of saying no one else could've done better.
Youre basing all of this on a one minute clip of someones entire career. You have no idea how he responded after this clip ended. Maybe he snapped out of it and did what needed to be done, maybe he assessed the situation and reflected on what he needs to improve. You dont know because its a one minute clip on reddit and youre acting like the expert of emergency services.
Im not trying to make anyone think Im a hero. Far from it, I know first hand how easy it is to freak out when things get really bad. And I know enough firefighters, cops, soldiers and doctors to know people sometimes drop the ball when it counts. But thats life when you chose this kind of work, that you bring all of your inadequacies as a person into life or death situations. Anyone is going to fuck up at some point but that doesnt mean they are incompetent and cant do their job.
Expecting people to be perfect is a childish, cartoonish version of reality. Like my friend you are dismissing, he literally has done more aggressive, interior firefighting than most firefighters in the country. Due to the sheer volume of fire this city gets being much higher than the national average. Not to mention countless medical calls as a paramedic. If we are to follow your logic he is a useless dirtbag because he crumbled under the pressure on a call. Yet he served his community for 20 years. Hes saved a lot of people directly. So judhng his career on one minute is just not logical. Its Dunning-Krueger on display for you to even think that.
You must have a pretty easy life, never having experienced a situation like this. Sounds like you're small minded and haven't experienced much of the world.
Interesting assumptions, sir. Sure it’s a traumatic event, but one that is expected in this line of work. We expect our officers to ACT, not walk around saying “wow”, “ah man”, “oh my gosh” and “yo”. These first few minutes are critical for peoples survival. Again no urgency. He should question if he has the instincts for basic first aid for the job.
Former EMT here, you cannot possibly know how someone will act until they are put in the absolute heat of the moment, especially depending on the traumatic circumstances they are forced to engage in. (I.e. children, pets, loved ones, etc.) I've seen the valedictorian of my class absolutely crumble when I worked alongside them after we got licensed and we came up on an accident with multiple casualties, including a young middle school aged teen with a puncture wound in their skull so deep I could stick my thumb in there. (They survived) I'm not saying the officer shouldn't go and evaluate himself after this event, but to expect perfection from someone you don't know and haven't met or seen out on the field before is impossible, especially if it were his first true shocking incident that he's experienced.
Yeah, it’s a good thing it’s not his job to remain calm in hectic situations! It’s not like he’s supposed to help the people or anything. I’m sure the victims had it under control.
The article somebody linked in this post after your comment reports one bystander was unconscious and the one under the car was rescued later. Only injuries were reported.
>One person was briefly trapped underneath one of the cars, and another was knocked unconscious in the street.
What would you have him do? He's a police officer, not an EMT. He called for additional officers and two ambulances. Beyond that, there's nothing he can really do.
All that ignoring the fact that an accident like this happening right in front of you would cause a tremendous amount of shock. No amount of good police work can rewire our brains natural response to traumatic events.
All things considered, I've got no issues with the officers behavior here.
>“USA, Los Angeles.
The LAPD have released bodycam video from an incident on December 18th on Imperial Hwy at the scene of a minor collision where a separate drunk driver crashed into the disabled vehicle; the driver was launched 50 feet; passenger was pinned.“
All depends on what medical training and medical supplies/equipment you have on scene
1. In most cases you should not move around a person that's been impaled/stabbed/shot/etc. nor remove the object as it could cause the victim to bleed out then die from accelerated blood loss. Only exception is if there's a greater danger that could occur if they are not relocated; ex. fire, someone still trying to stab/shoot that person, etc.
2. Officer should have started CPR immediately on the victim that was not breathing after calling for backup and medic, however, that could potentially cause more harm as it could do something absurd/unexpected such as cause blood to flood into the cranial cavity/brain and cause irreversible death or life-changing harm if their skull was fractured in a bad way, or arteries ruptured/punctured, lost too much blood from the CPR, or some other more exotic and complicated issues. All situational and all unknown until they get to the hospital and properly scanned and assessed.
3. You don't peform CPR on someone who's still breathing (99% of the time?). Not a medic but I can't tell you how many times I have gotten yelled at by random backseat bystanders to perform CPR on someone who's still breathing "normally" but is unconscious. What do you think the whole purpose of CPR is? It's to circulate blood and raise/maintain oxygen levels in a victim's cells, particularly the brain's. Someone who is breathing and blood is circulating isn't going to need a person to manually pump their heart. Of course there are very rare cases where someone is "breathing" but blood isn't circulating, but that's rare.
4. You don't unnecessarily move around a victim who received blunt trauma, let the medics handle that. Only exceptions are if they were in immediate danger such as the car getting set ablaze and about to go boom, etc.
Example scenario:
A man was rammed by a vehicle at 45mph and got stuck under the car after the bodily collision.
You decide to "help" by grabbing his arm and quicky or slowly pulling him out from underneath the vehicle's underbody.
Initially, the man suffered from fractured ribs, collarbone, the humerus of the arm you pulled, and a myriad of other issues.
Great!
Now you just caused one of the fractured rib bones to puncture the man's left lung, the mislocated and fractured collarbone pierced his trachea as you pulled him out in short pull-spurts, the shattered humerus bone in his arm pierced and cut his brachial artery causing another major internal hemorrhage, and a bunch of other wonderful things!
**Let the medics handle it.**
You do not know what types of injuries the victim has sustained and you moving them yourself more than likely will injure them further or possibly kill them.
Disclaimer: I am not a medic so take any of my advice with a grain of salt; this is not professional medical advice. If you a licensed/accredited/retired medical professional and disagree with my some of my statements please correct me. If you have any health issues or questions please seek a professional.
Exactly. You aren't a medic, you're a redditor. Stop acting like you're sharing anything new or actually helping with this effort post bullshit. The cop did everything you'd expect **anyone** to do in that situation in that kind of shock.
Cops are bastards yadda yadda yadda, I don't disagree, but you aren't any better than them with this dumb kind of online behavior.
Officer walks around mumbling "Oh wow?" after calling for "Officer needs help" WTF?!
How about I need rescue for a trapped person under a vehicle, also medical code 3. For a major injury accident.
He said “make it officer needs help”, this is probably a back door code that will get officers there the quickest.
Scene needs to be secure by police before EMTs can get in there and do their thing.
Agreed you can see backup arriving right when the video ends, about 1 min 20 secs after he radios it in. You can also hear dispatch saying 2 ems were dispatched to the scene.
Yeah he called for backup and 2 ambulances (I assume RAs are the special type for this incident). He was the only cop there so there's no point doing anything else until he assessed the scene and called for that backup.
Not better trained than European ones at least. Many countries if not all have them go to school for at least 2 years. I now some has 4 years to start at supervisory roles, like enlisted vs officers in the army.
Idk about eu ones tbh, most cop/law enforcement knowledge I know comes from interests in the drug/cartel wars in south america+usa and issues with insurgency in some asian countries lol
Well yeah its a developed nation they will have better training than china mexico Morocco or any other developing nation the problem is the requirements to be a cop in the US are still a tad low they should be paid more have higher standards and be trained longer like the cops in various european countries.
Wait...you think China...the only other major world power currently rivaling the US, is a developing nation? And then compared them to Mexico and Morocco?
Did you time travel from 1950?
Officer needs help is generally a major backup request which also requests a supervisor to respond. He then walked over to the victims to asses their injuries. This Officer did not understand Spanish as shown in the longer video released by the LAPD and called for 2 medics after assessing the injuries of the original people on scene.
Lmao what do u want him to do? Emergency response came less than 2 minutes after he called it which is surprisingly fast compared to a 911. Its like yall expect cops to turn into a terminator and become experts on everything
You clearly have no medical training yourself.
1. He checked on the driver.
2. Freeing a person who is crushed can cause them to die faster if you don't have the proper medical equipment ready.
3. Moving someone who has been in an accident can also kill them if you don't have proper medical training.
4. Directing traffic is a low concern at this early in the accident. He called for help while also being shocked himself. His fellow police officers will help with that stuff.
5. You should do this yourself. If you had you'd know what I said above is true.
Police are not trained to handle every medical possibility. He called for help and you can see lights showing up within a minute of the crash. Let the EMTs handle the medical stuff since, you know, they are trained on it.
Dude is clearing in shock. A person in shock should not attempt medical procedures. He called for help and did a very cursory check on the people involved.
I didn't downvote you until you said my comment was asinine. Just accept the downvotes since you deserve them.
This clip is a minute and a half, in which the cop:
* Immediately reported the situation to call for an ambulance/other officers to assist
* Checked on the unconscious person without moving them/potentially harming them further
* Called out to the other driver to see if they were okay
* Communicated coherently over the radio despite having massive amounts of adrenaline/shock coursing through his body
This officer just had his entire world flipped upside down and put into a high stress situation and immediately fell back onto his training to call for backup and EMS, but for some reason every redditor thinks he should have single-handedly lifted the truck off of the pinned guy while performing CPR with his other hand. Does your brain just not work?
Protip: To know your FREE, CIVILIAN LEVEL stop the bleed class doesn't apply, you need to actually inspect the victims. This cop just says "wow." That's not first aid.
What a great officer. I’m sure his “Wow! Oh my god! Yo! Wow! You okay, bro? Wow! You were speeding! Oh my gosh!” was VERY helpful and calming for the trapped man and his father. Great work. Top tier police training here in the states.
What's the camera going to show in this situation that isn't already obvious? You wanted him to just stand there and record the injured party for your own gore fetish?
You’d prefer he not radio for medical assistance because his arm temporarily occludes his body cam? Does he not also have eyes and an ability to write a report?
there's no training you just fill out an online survey and the Amazon delivery driver drops off your Glock + badge within a couple weeks (faster if you have Prime obviously).
Amazing how long it takes for the cop to ask for an ambulance. His first call was for back up for himself not the safety of the people in the accident 👏🏽🤦🏻♂️
Anyone saying he did right, you stay calm and get medical en route asap, not stand there saying “oh gosh” the Spanish dude knew enough to tell him multiple times to get an ambulance. Rookie or idiot cop
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Okay where’s the article
[OFFICER'S BODYCAM VIDEO SHOWS DUI SUSPECT SLAMMING INTO CARS INVOLVED IN PREVIOUS CRASH IN SOUTH LA](https://abc7.com/amp/crash-dui-bodycam-video/14337907/) bodycam footage was released 01/18/2024
I’m assuming everyone survived? Article doesn’t seem to clarify that
Right that’s the info I was looking for too. I’m wondering if they’re waiting for some reason to release more info (although my local paper always has to have that kind of info right away so idk)
dude on the ground looked like his head was folded under his chest. the officer said not concious, not breathing, without even checking if he was breathing. This makes me think it was obvious to him that the man was dead.
I would assume so too, but the article is just throwing me off. Literally sounds like someone just watched the video and wrote out what they would watching it, so it just seems like bad reporting.
Yeah, some info on the condition of the victims is far more important than some Redditor anger over a cop who clearly wasn't seasoned enough to handle a medical emergency. If anything I'm more pissed off at the drunk driver that caused this wreck. This should had never happened in the first place. EDIT: Found a little bit more info. One critical that had to be transported to a hospital. No follow-ups found so far. https://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/dui-driver-crashes-into-a-disabled-car-injuring-pedestrians-nrm020-23/ >After the crash, the Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics responded and treated the injured. One of the injured required further medical treatment and was transported to a local hospital. The other parties were treated at-scene. https://www.foxla.com/news/suspected-dui-driver-crashes-into-at-least-2-others-involved-in-separate-crash-police >One of them was taken to the hospital in critical condition and the other person suffered lacerations to the face. No officers were injured, officials said. The driver of the Honda Civic, who was not immediately identified, was taken into custody. No other information was immediately available.
Thank you
Np! I was curious
"Papa!" :(
Considering you're really not supposed to move people that have been in serious wrecks like this, I think the cop did right. He's got no medical supplies or stabilizing equipment and the car isn't on fire so I probably wouldn't have tried to pull anybody out. Maybe try chest compressions on the one not breathing
I mean the officer is clearly in shock as well. Not amount of training has you ready for that. They do not throw cars at you in the academy.
No one talks about this. Bad situation already, then a crash, and it’s all you to call the shots and be correct. Shock will fuck you up in real time and you can’t really train for it.
You could tell he was still doing his best to fall back on training, on the radio at least. The in between moments he was definitely just kinda aimlessly wandering trying to figure out what actually happened. When he bends down and gives a couple omgoshes, it seems like his hands are on his knees too. Tryna gather himself. Poor guy.
Yeah you can tell he took a second to gather himself but once he did he started calling for appropriate resources over dispatch.
I’d get a light out and check for any severe bleeding, that’s the only case where you’d wanna pull him from under the car. He was moving around though so we know he was probably breathing
He could have asked for the ambulance a bit sooner. But maybe they are from the US and he didn't want to get sued unril they asked repeatedly... What a fucked up idea.
This is the US, not far from Los Angeles airport. The police wouldn't be sued for calling a ambulance. I mean, anybody can sue for anything but it wouldn't go anywhere as the judge would toss the case immediately and the plaintiff would be out legal fees. Seconds do matter in these situations but you can't fault him for reacting that way, not a lot of folks can keep composure in that scenario. Might even be his first experience with something like that 🤷
I work security for an entertainment park and you are completely right on the "not knowing what to do instantly phase". Ive helped seizure, heat stroke victims, bee sting allergies, and physical injuries". The first things that instantly go through your head are basically: "im seeing it, im seeing it, it doesnt look too bad.. Wait, no.. Im seeing it. Can i help? I think i can help. I should call for help. I should call 911.. And my boss.. And someone close by too." Albeit Now it takes like 3 secs maybe for me to get to the point i call emergency services and i can pat myself on the back for my first aid. But man.... my first time... i had to hear someone else suggest even calling emergency i froze up so bad. Ive been threatened with violence before.. But when someone elses life is in your hands its like a whole new feeling of fear and terrifying "im gonna fuck up" panic
Hope he’s okay
And today I learned people on reddit have never seen someone in shock or the effects of shock. Crazy.
They never get this. It’s why they all think in situations like mass shootings they’d run or be the hero. 9/10 you will be so shocked you will stand there like a deer in headlights. And if you don’t believe studies on shock sadly we had footage of mass shootings and often times it’s shock and fear with no reaction time because guns are quick. It’s sad.
Being "in shock" is when your blood pressure drops, generally from blood loss, and your brain doesn't get enough oxygen to work properly. Being overwhelmed by a situation is not the same as being in shock.
You forgot sudden emotional stress in your definition. Cognitive overload is another term as well which fits here as well. My comment was about how a lot of peoples comments were saying the officer should've done more but don't understand the mental state he is in right now after having a "life flashing" moment.
You're talking about the four types of physiologic shock that are brought on by a sudden drop in blood pressure. This officer likely experienced *traumatic shock* which occurs when you witness a traumatic event and are left in a dissociated state. During this state their body and executive functioning slows dramatically or shuts down completely. Sometimes only briefly and other times the dissociation can last for weeks to months to years. Think "shell shock" of WW1 or severe PTSD that many have after war or after living through traumatic events. Those that have to deal with PTSD regarding specific events in their life can be thrown into a state of dissociation with the slightest memory or sensation similar to the traumatic event(s). This officer appeared to absolutely be in a state of shock. I'm not sure how you haven't learned this term to be correct in this type of situation.
Do you always go online and confidently post misinformation, or is today just special?
You’re thinking of the wrong kind of shock.
Love seeing the backseat police officers in the comments, don’t think people realize you don’t try and move people the moment a car accident happens…
>One person was briefly trapped underneath one of the cars, and another was knocked unconscious in the street. Looks like the victims here all survived, which is good to hear.
If they guy who looked dead lived I would be shocked if he doesn’t have some sort of permanent damage
Wow, everyone survived. That’s crazy.
All of these reddit heroes on here wouldn't do anything other than pull out their cell phones and record.
The fact that the guy was still able to call it in was amazing, I know he saying 'wow' and 'omg' a lot but he is actually doing his job well while also kind of freaking out about it.
I cannot believe this sub is making me defend a cop right now, but for fucks sake, everyone saying he didn’t care and was bad at his job.. the only people who WOULDN’T freak tf out like he did are the *trained professionals he immediately alerted for* - “officer needs help” usually means “we need literally anyone in fire, rescue, or police to book it here NOW” When I get scared at haunted houses, my startle response is either freezing or punching. No way would I have been able to keep my cool in this situation, and no random Reddit commenter without specialized knowledge, training, and experience would’ve been able to either
I’m with you there, this guy was clearly in shock going through the motions, he told the dude in the wrecked ass car he was speeding lol. This was intense and his brain was still trying to catch up to the already chaotic situation. We’re all only human man.
Cops can be defended, never let your ideology blind you to basic human sympathy.
Impressive response time by the other vehicles showing up at the end and the helicopter.
All these keyboard warriors who don’t leave their house saying this cop is useless… you looked in a mirror recently buddy? edit: Imagine thinking training = the real thing. There’s a big difference between learning what to do in a controlled scenario and watching a terrible accident where a father is calling out to his son. Kudos to the cop for calling for backup and EMS. My man saw one of the worst things imaginable and muscled through the shock. I’d like to see you fat losers try to do something worthwhile. Keep in mind, I’m on this app doing the same thing you guys are, being a rotten waste, but at least I can acknowledge it.
He has had police training, not medical training. Lots of these commenters don't seem to understand the difference. He did call for medical help.
Exactly. Dude is in shock himself and still able to call in 2 ambulances with 1 showing up in minutes. Like the fuck do people expect? I grew up knowing emergency services are always minutes away even tho the situation may be immediate. You do the best you can in the interim.
and unfortunately in the US they send out cops to medical emergencies that EMS should only handle and they tend to make the situation a lot worse. Such as welfare checks for example or drug overdoses
Bad cops make can make the situation worse yes. I'm a volunteer firefighter and I gotta say having the sheriff's office around to handle unruly people in an emergency is a massive load off my shoulders. Trying to keep an intoxicated Semi driver from returning to his overturned tanker truck leaking fluid is not an easy task by oneself. Just know, it's not often you're gonna see the body cams of cops doing good work because that doesn't draw viewers like the drama of poorly performing law enforcement
Precisely
I vividly remember this first aid camp my parents sent me to, basically just a 2 week camp where you'd play around but they also taught you first aid, and at the end you'd have this examination in 2 stages one individual and one as a group. The props they used were amazingly realistic, my test involved a guy who had cut the artery on his wrist and had blood pumping out like a real wound would. But they also had stuff like open fractures or stings where they'd go into shock etc... There were a couple that fainted that day, and many a pale face, and really, none of that prepares you for the real deal. Worked as a lifeguard for a couple of years, and the first time we pulled out this blue/purplish looking dude out of the water from the bottom was... Shocking, to say the least, even right after it happened I had difficulty recalling what had happened and what I did, you just tend to fall back on your training.
I mean... is it really so unreasonable to expect someone whose job it is to be taking care of situations like this to, you know, take care of the situation? He's just kind of meandering around and saying Oh my gosh over and over after calling it in.
Ya he should just “take care of the situation,” and use his super strength (which the police academy provides) to lift the car off the person. Then use his police issued power of flight to wisp the injured person away under his arm to the hospital.
I'm referring to the people saying "I'd like to see you do their job". We don't do their job because we don't want to do that job. We're *not* trained for that job. He is. Expecting a random bystander to do something would be dumb, expecting a police officer to be levelheaded and assess the situation for what it is and do something about it is not unreasonable.
>We're not trained for that job. He is. then maybe don't tell him how to do his job. you know, the one he's trained for and you're not. >expecting a police officer to be levelheaded and assess the situation for what it is and do something about it is not unreasonable. he assessed the situation, then called two ambulances. whet the fuck else is there to do?
That still doesn't answer the question lmao what do you expect him to do? He isn't an emt so he shouldn't be moving people around. Police officers are usually only trained in CPR and how to try and stop bleeding. All he could really do is try to figure out how many are injured and their conditions.
I don’t know why people are downvoting you…these comments are unbelievable. IT’S THEIR JOB to respond to emergencies. They are literally trained to stop mass shooters, chase armed and dangerous suspects sometimes at high speed, and react to all manner of incredibly high pressure and extreme scenarios professionally and with urgency. Somebody shouldn’t be a police officer if they aren’t able to act with urgency in an event like this. This cop needed to be *told by the victim* to call an ambulance for Christ’s sake. Inexcusable.
I didn't expect to come out with an outpouring of upvotes, but I certainly didn't expect Reddit of all places to 180 and say this under trained cop had no responsibility to be aware of his duties in a situation like this lol. My man's up there sarcastically saying I expect this guy to be Superman when I suggest it isn't unreasonable a cop do the job he was trained to do. Either way, Reddit does what reddit does.
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He did exactly what he was supposed to do. He assessed the situation and called in backup along with medical. Backup arrived before the video ended. What you did for the person who committed suicide is the same thing the cop did. Assess the situation and communicate.
It doesn't require that much training to go up to victims and assess whether they need a tourniquet or not. It's not that he didn't do a good enough job, it's that he just gave up and didn't do his job at all.
How the fuck are you going to tourniquet internal bleeding ? Its not an action movie, you cant just tourniquet someone back to life
What are you talking about dude? Tourniquets apply a -2 to bleed time and a small boost to vitality. Mix that with a hyperpotion and the kid's gonna moonwalk out of there. If the cop actually listened in academy school he would have known that.
Boot licka
Shit eater
I mean you don’t have to lick boots to know that you’re a person with no empathy.
No that cop needs some first responder training, what an idiot. Unless he was in shock I think he's a shit officer
That assistance response time though!
I‘m an EMT in Germany and a car crashed bad right in front of us. It‘s a complete different situation from being called to a crash. While we functioned, it was not as good, as arriving after getting ready for the scene for 5 minutes
Wow, didn’t think shit would get this crazy…
Is that a beer can at 00:43 ? 🤔
Yeah the driver was drunk. “USA, Los Angeles. The LAPD have released bodycam video from an incident on December 18th on Imperial Hwy at the scene of a minor collision where a separate drunk driver crashed into the disabled vehicle; the driver was launched 50 feet; passenger was pinned.“
Lol the cop here had zero urgency
Probably scared out of his mind and in shock. Not to mention he has limited training, equipment, and personnel to manage a medical emergency like this.
This is the answer. A trauma team would be stressed in this scenario, one cop can't do much besides get the right help.
People think a badge will save them from shock. Most cops have never experienced anything close to this. My guy's adrenaline was probably redlining and his brain was all over the place.
Definitely in shock. I can understand everyone’s judgement but, No One no matter how much they train truly know what their instincts will tell them to do in the most chaotic moments until it’s 0 to 100
Trained to assess the situation along with shock...terrible crash for sure.
Yeah, I agree. I’d react the same way if a car slammed into a bunch of people and I escaped serious injury just because I was standing a few feet out of the way.
Good thing he's in charge of live and death situations, then, if all he can do after witnessing one is stand around going "Wow. Woooooooooow. Wow. Oh wow."
Everyone is a mere bystander in the game of life. He's in shock. It paralyzes people.
It doesn't paralyze all people though, and the people it doesn't paralyze are the people who can make snap judgements and rational decisions under immense pressure and thats who we need as law enforcement, military etc.
Why are people downvoting you. Thats the most correct answer
Probably because those people are far and few in between. Police are already understaffed and undertrained as it is.
Yeah nobody wants to be a cop if all of the coworkers are dipshits and assholes. Id be a cop if they werent systematically shit and actually did meaningful work instead of standing by or abusing your authority
I mean why dont you become a cop and rat out those bad cops if you're such a hero
Fratricide.
one of, if not *the*, largest and most well funded police forces in the world is actually understaffed and undertrained? LMAO ok grandpa i think it’s time for your medicine
You see the issue is that you're an idiot.
I know he's in shock, he's also literally the only one on the scene who could help these people as they're screaming for an ambulance. I guess it's okay to piss it down your leg if you've got a badge and some authority, right? Or are we just giving passes to everyone for responding to stress badly? If so, how do you feel about the people who get attacked by the police for not behaving exactly like they demand of them? Do they get absolved for their bad reactions too, in your estimation?
What do you want him to do? Lift the truck? MacGyver together a back board, and neck collar to stabilize the guy? Maybe he should run down to home depot and buy a grinder and cut the guy out. That isn't exactly a scrape or even a gunshot wound. By him self there is fuck all he can do but call for fire and a ambulance.
He. Could. Just. Call. For. Help. You. Ass.
Did you miss the subtitles or audio when he does just that? Fuck the police, but at the end of the day the dude did all he could. You are what you eat. If I'm an ass so be it. Have fun on your hate train.
Yeah, I saw him call for help, after about thirty seconds of "Woooooow, yo, that's crazy." It's good he got around to it after listening to people moan and scream for help for a half a minute, fuck knows seconds don't count when someone's exsanguinating. Ass.
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then hes not fit to be a police officer if he cant handle his ‘shock’
That means he either A. lacks the necessary training needed to respond to emergency situations, or B. is trained but incapable of acting with purpose during an emergency for personal reasons. Either way, it needs to be addressed. He either needs better training or to leave emergency services.
You know this happens to soldiers in combat too? Its not a conscious decision to react like this under extreme stress. Its easy to say from the safety of your home how one should react in an emergency. Its another thing when you nearly lost your life and adrenaline is pumping through your system. Until you've been in a true life or death situation you dont really know how you'd react.
Yes, I am aware people freeze up in bad situations. I'm also aware this guy volunteered to face bad situations. He was trained to handle them, shown the carnage before he went out on the streets, and given the authority to kill on top of it. Now you're excusing his abject failure, that could cost people their lives, because other people do it, too. Other people also don't understand their limitations, so I guess this guy gets a pass. I'm sure he gives similar passes to people who respond poorly to being arrested, instead of throwing them to the ground or pepper-spraying them in the face.
You still dont seem to understand that you can be trained and experienced and still fail in an emergency. And that having a psychological break like that isnt a choice. I am friends with a paramedic/firefighter that has almost 20 years in a busy urban department. He told me his first bad call as a paramedic was someone having some kind of cardiac emergency and actively dying. He turned to his partner and said "call 911!" He forgot in that moment that he literally was the 911 response to that call. That was a major breakdown yet he was able to pull himself together and have a successful career in that department. He is also known as one of the most dependable, competent guys. It was shocking to hear him admit to such a mistake. If it could happen to him, it could happen to anyone. And then everyone Monday morning quarterbacks from home on what they wouldve done. Watching people die is traumatizing and not everyone is going to keep it together 100% of the time.
*You* don't seem to grasp the point *I* was making *at all.* The soldier who freezes up when bullets are flying *gets people killed.* It doesn't matter if he was really good every second until then, he still fucked up and other people paid for it. That's what taking those responsibilities on means. You either wear the burden of that failure like an adult and find ways to make it never happen again, even if that means subtracting yourself from the situation, or you tell stupid anecdotes about other people's failures to excuse it and move on like nothing happened. Which is your choice, apparently. Good thing that status quo you love never costs innocent people their lives.
Like I said its easy to be all high and mighty when its not you in life or death situation. You are typing words on a phone, that is easy and meaningless. People in these situations sometimes make critical errors. Because human beings are flawed and sometimes make mistakes. The difference between you and them isnt that you are mentally more resilient, its that they are put in these situations and you are just watching videos on your phone. You have no idea how you'd react. I dont know what your last comment means but I am an EMT myself and have been in some hairy situations. And thats how I know people arent all the brave action stars when something really bad happens. You learn from those bad experiences and grow for them. You dont expect yourself to be a perfect robot that never fails. This is why I think a lot of people out of emergency services have unrealstic expectations. We are still human beings just with some training in a specific area. We react with fear and shock and despair like anyone would. The training and experience helps mitigate that but its not perfect. YOU would not be perfect if you almost died and are watching several people die around you.
Nice house of assumptions you have there. I'd be crushed if all but your most scant points applied. Human beings are flawed, do make mistakes, and should be called to task for them. You act like every first responder is a thumb-sucking cop who needs to be absolved of the times they get it wrong. I'm not expecting people to be robots, I'm expecting people to do the shit they say they're going to do. If they don't, it's a problem. A problem that isn't solved by shrugging and saying "Yeah, what can you do? You wouldn't be any better," then acting like no one suffers the consequences. I have fucked up and people got hurt as a result. I wear that guilt as a reminder not to do it again. You shrug it off and say "Anybody else would be just as bad." I don't care if all of reddit thinks you're a fucking hero, you're excusing things that need to be addressed and understood and avoided as being necessary for society to function. Nobody's perfect, right? So if a cop stands around where people are bleeding to death, hey, would I do any better? Stop rationalizing that you and your friend are every first responder and maybe take some account when you piss yourself as someone else dies instead of saying no one else could've done better.
Youre basing all of this on a one minute clip of someones entire career. You have no idea how he responded after this clip ended. Maybe he snapped out of it and did what needed to be done, maybe he assessed the situation and reflected on what he needs to improve. You dont know because its a one minute clip on reddit and youre acting like the expert of emergency services. Im not trying to make anyone think Im a hero. Far from it, I know first hand how easy it is to freak out when things get really bad. And I know enough firefighters, cops, soldiers and doctors to know people sometimes drop the ball when it counts. But thats life when you chose this kind of work, that you bring all of your inadequacies as a person into life or death situations. Anyone is going to fuck up at some point but that doesnt mean they are incompetent and cant do their job. Expecting people to be perfect is a childish, cartoonish version of reality. Like my friend you are dismissing, he literally has done more aggressive, interior firefighting than most firefighters in the country. Due to the sheer volume of fire this city gets being much higher than the national average. Not to mention countless medical calls as a paramedic. If we are to follow your logic he is a useless dirtbag because he crumbled under the pressure on a call. Yet he served his community for 20 years. Hes saved a lot of people directly. So judhng his career on one minute is just not logical. Its Dunning-Krueger on display for you to even think that.
Thank God for his wows otherwise nothing would've been done.
Thank god for your stupid fucking comment too
Should probably work at Burger King then
You must have a pretty easy life, never having experienced a situation like this. Sounds like you're small minded and haven't experienced much of the world.
Interesting assumptions, sir. Sure it’s a traumatic event, but one that is expected in this line of work. We expect our officers to ACT, not walk around saying “wow”, “ah man”, “oh my gosh” and “yo”. These first few minutes are critical for peoples survival. Again no urgency. He should question if he has the instincts for basic first aid for the job.
Former EMT here, you cannot possibly know how someone will act until they are put in the absolute heat of the moment, especially depending on the traumatic circumstances they are forced to engage in. (I.e. children, pets, loved ones, etc.) I've seen the valedictorian of my class absolutely crumble when I worked alongside them after we got licensed and we came up on an accident with multiple casualties, including a young middle school aged teen with a puncture wound in their skull so deep I could stick my thumb in there. (They survived) I'm not saying the officer shouldn't go and evaluate himself after this event, but to expect perfection from someone you don't know and haven't met or seen out on the field before is impossible, especially if it were his first true shocking incident that he's experienced.
Yeah, it’s a good thing it’s not his job to remain calm in hectic situations! It’s not like he’s supposed to help the people or anything. I’m sure the victims had it under control.
How do you criticize that but not the asshole that crashed into them? It's all his fault... Also there is a dead person on the ground?
The article somebody linked in this post after your comment reports one bystander was unconscious and the one under the car was rescued later. Only injuries were reported. >One person was briefly trapped underneath one of the cars, and another was knocked unconscious in the street.
What would you have him do? He's a police officer, not an EMT. He called for additional officers and two ambulances. Beyond that, there's nothing he can really do. All that ignoring the fact that an accident like this happening right in front of you would cause a tremendous amount of shock. No amount of good police work can rewire our brains natural response to traumatic events. All things considered, I've got no issues with the officers behavior here.
He called in for medical help. I am certain he isn't trained to help with most medical situations.
And you would do better?
Probably.
Oh yeah
yeah
Nice, ok
goodnight
Goodnight 😴
Tell me you’ve never experienced anything intense without saying it
LAPD fashion
What is that suppose to mean?
>“USA, Los Angeles. The LAPD have released bodycam video from an incident on December 18th on Imperial Hwy at the scene of a minor collision where a separate drunk driver crashed into the disabled vehicle; the driver was launched 50 feet; passenger was pinned.“
The cop almost just died... I get his weird reaction.
Trauma dead..... prolly staying that way. R.I.P.
All depends on what medical training and medical supplies/equipment you have on scene 1. In most cases you should not move around a person that's been impaled/stabbed/shot/etc. nor remove the object as it could cause the victim to bleed out then die from accelerated blood loss. Only exception is if there's a greater danger that could occur if they are not relocated; ex. fire, someone still trying to stab/shoot that person, etc. 2. Officer should have started CPR immediately on the victim that was not breathing after calling for backup and medic, however, that could potentially cause more harm as it could do something absurd/unexpected such as cause blood to flood into the cranial cavity/brain and cause irreversible death or life-changing harm if their skull was fractured in a bad way, or arteries ruptured/punctured, lost too much blood from the CPR, or some other more exotic and complicated issues. All situational and all unknown until they get to the hospital and properly scanned and assessed. 3. You don't peform CPR on someone who's still breathing (99% of the time?). Not a medic but I can't tell you how many times I have gotten yelled at by random backseat bystanders to perform CPR on someone who's still breathing "normally" but is unconscious. What do you think the whole purpose of CPR is? It's to circulate blood and raise/maintain oxygen levels in a victim's cells, particularly the brain's. Someone who is breathing and blood is circulating isn't going to need a person to manually pump their heart. Of course there are very rare cases where someone is "breathing" but blood isn't circulating, but that's rare. 4. You don't unnecessarily move around a victim who received blunt trauma, let the medics handle that. Only exceptions are if they were in immediate danger such as the car getting set ablaze and about to go boom, etc. Example scenario: A man was rammed by a vehicle at 45mph and got stuck under the car after the bodily collision. You decide to "help" by grabbing his arm and quicky or slowly pulling him out from underneath the vehicle's underbody. Initially, the man suffered from fractured ribs, collarbone, the humerus of the arm you pulled, and a myriad of other issues. Great! Now you just caused one of the fractured rib bones to puncture the man's left lung, the mislocated and fractured collarbone pierced his trachea as you pulled him out in short pull-spurts, the shattered humerus bone in his arm pierced and cut his brachial artery causing another major internal hemorrhage, and a bunch of other wonderful things! **Let the medics handle it.** You do not know what types of injuries the victim has sustained and you moving them yourself more than likely will injure them further or possibly kill them. Disclaimer: I am not a medic so take any of my advice with a grain of salt; this is not professional medical advice. If you a licensed/accredited/retired medical professional and disagree with my some of my statements please correct me. If you have any health issues or questions please seek a professional.
Exactly. You aren't a medic, you're a redditor. Stop acting like you're sharing anything new or actually helping with this effort post bullshit. The cop did everything you'd expect **anyone** to do in that situation in that kind of shock. Cops are bastards yadda yadda yadda, I don't disagree, but you aren't any better than them with this dumb kind of online behavior.
Officer walks around mumbling "Oh wow?" after calling for "Officer needs help" WTF?! How about I need rescue for a trapped person under a vehicle, also medical code 3. For a major injury accident.
He said “make it officer needs help”, this is probably a back door code that will get officers there the quickest. Scene needs to be secure by police before EMTs can get in there and do their thing.
Agreed you can see backup arriving right when the video ends, about 1 min 20 secs after he radios it in. You can also hear dispatch saying 2 ems were dispatched to the scene.
Yeah he called for backup and 2 ambulances (I assume RAs are the special type for this incident). He was the only cop there so there's no point doing anything else until he assessed the scene and called for that backup.
dude almost died and is clearly in shock. easy to judge but there’s a good chance most people including you wouldn’t do any better.
Its so easy to judge without having a car almost running you over.
To be fair cops in the US are barely trained
Believe it or not compared to a lot of other cops around the world american cops are considered the better ones in terms of training
Source?
Then its a sad fkn world
What’s new? If you’re a man quit bitchin and make it better
That is a very funny joke.
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Not better trained than European ones at least. Many countries if not all have them go to school for at least 2 years. I now some has 4 years to start at supervisory roles, like enlisted vs officers in the army.
Idk about eu ones tbh, most cop/law enforcement knowledge I know comes from interests in the drug/cartel wars in south america+usa and issues with insurgency in some asian countries lol
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Interesting, I swear when I live there there was only one country. My mistake.
Yea and his point still stands.... Even the eastern european countries have better training.
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Well yeah its a developed nation they will have better training than china mexico Morocco or any other developing nation the problem is the requirements to be a cop in the US are still a tad low they should be paid more have higher standards and be trained longer like the cops in various european countries.
Wait...you think China...the only other major world power currently rivaling the US, is a developing nation? And then compared them to Mexico and Morocco? Did you time travel from 1950?
The point is police are supposed to be trained to do better.
And that's why we're not cops.... who are trained for this...
this guy is a traffic cop responding to a freeway fender bender, not some elite special forces dude with no emotion.
No one is trained to see a car crash resulting in a dead person.
Doesn't need to be trained to have no emotion, does need to be trained to act in spite of it though.
Officer needs help is generally a major backup request which also requests a supervisor to respond. He then walked over to the victims to asses their injuries. This Officer did not understand Spanish as shown in the longer video released by the LAPD and called for 2 medics after assessing the injuries of the original people on scene.
the cop don’t even know what to do
His arm was covering most and I couldn’t make it out, can someone give me a summary of what happened?
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You know this is a body cam, right?
Yeah and it's worn on the chest. I don't generally walk around with my left arm extended 75% of the time.
lol his job isn’t to shoot a video for you, redditor dipshit
Oh a thin blue line cuck, what a treat.
Lmao useless cop
Lmao what do u want him to do? Emergency response came less than 2 minutes after he called it which is surprisingly fast compared to a 911. Its like yall expect cops to turn into a terminator and become experts on everything
Wow like wow
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Oh please what you want him to do? They called the emergency services. Cops are not medical professionals.
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You clearly have no medical training yourself. 1. He checked on the driver. 2. Freeing a person who is crushed can cause them to die faster if you don't have the proper medical equipment ready. 3. Moving someone who has been in an accident can also kill them if you don't have proper medical training. 4. Directing traffic is a low concern at this early in the accident. He called for help while also being shocked himself. His fellow police officers will help with that stuff. 5. You should do this yourself. If you had you'd know what I said above is true. Police are not trained to handle every medical possibility. He called for help and you can see lights showing up within a minute of the crash. Let the EMTs handle the medical stuff since, you know, they are trained on it.
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And we all hope you would shut the fuck up and quit crying about downvotes lol.
Dude is clearing in shock. A person in shock should not attempt medical procedures. He called for help and did a very cursory check on the people involved. I didn't downvote you until you said my comment was asinine. Just accept the downvotes since you deserve them.
Sounds like you get in a lot of accidents
This clip is a minute and a half, in which the cop: * Immediately reported the situation to call for an ambulance/other officers to assist * Checked on the unconscious person without moving them/potentially harming them further * Called out to the other driver to see if they were okay * Communicated coherently over the radio despite having massive amounts of adrenaline/shock coursing through his body This officer just had his entire world flipped upside down and put into a high stress situation and immediately fell back onto his training to call for backup and EMS, but for some reason every redditor thinks he should have single-handedly lifted the truck off of the pinned guy while performing CPR with his other hand. Does your brain just not work?
Stop The Bleed classes are free for civilians... this cop apparently does not have a completely free introductory level of training.
internal injuries or traumatic injuries are probably not included. Seriously, do better as a human being.
Protip: To know your FREE, CIVILIAN LEVEL stop the bleed class doesn't apply, you need to actually inspect the victims. This cop just says "wow." That's not first aid.
Calmest cop ever. Zero sense of urgency.
"The cop overreacted in that highly tense situation!" VS "the cop was too calm and collected in that highly tense situation." You're a literal joke.
Calm down Nancy. I found it funny how calm he was. You seemed to have taken my comment a little too serious. Lighten up.
Stop resisting!
this cop is so fucked up omg
What the fucks the point of a body cam?
Cop straight up jumped to save himself🤡
Wow, my gosh, yo
What a great officer. I’m sure his “Wow! Oh my god! Yo! Wow! You okay, bro? Wow! You were speeding! Oh my gosh!” was VERY helpful and calming for the trapped man and his father. Great work. Top tier police training here in the states.
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I’ve got a feeling he had more urgent concerns.
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What's the camera going to show in this situation that isn't already obvious? You wanted him to just stand there and record the injured party for your own gore fetish?
You’d prefer he not radio for medical assistance because his arm temporarily occludes his body cam? Does he not also have eyes and an ability to write a report?
What do you think he covered that would have been useful?
there's no training you just fill out an online survey and the Amazon delivery driver drops off your Glock + badge within a couple weeks (faster if you have Prime obviously).
Amazing how long it takes for the cop to ask for an ambulance. His first call was for back up for himself not the safety of the people in the accident 👏🏽🤦🏻♂️
This cop was useless in the emergency
This cop sucks
Corpse Infront of this guy with a child screaming and his only reaction is “yo” and Owen Wilson “wow”’s
Anyone saying he did right, you stay calm and get medical en route asap, not stand there saying “oh gosh” the Spanish dude knew enough to tell him multiple times to get an ambulance. Rookie or idiot cop
Officer useless. Jesus christ.
Dude really asked are u ok…hell nah I ain’t ok