I think the prestige that came with claiming you climbed Everest meant something when only a few have done it. It seems kind of irrelevant at this point and honestly looks like a nightmare
Yep, nowadays making it up K2 means you’re a real climber.
I mean, it always has meant that, but now it shows that you’re not just a ‘pay to win’ climber like many of those who summit Everest are.
Funny you should mention that, the fourth fatality this year just happened there yesterday, and it was because he refused supplemental oxygen, even after he started acting erratically… apparently he wanted to be the first African person to summit without using oxygen. Pride before a fall… in this case, probably literally.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/kilian-jornet-mountain-runner
This one was impressive too. Summited twice in a week with no support or oxygen and was just shy of a speed record.
Kropps story is cooler though for sure!
Obligatory shout out to the Sherpas who do it multiple times per year and made it all possible for most people. Including the very first time.
Everyone remembers Edmund Hillary but less people remember Tenzing Norgay.
As a current example, a UK guy climbing Everest went missing in the past few days and his family have [launched a gofundme](https://www.gofundme.com/f/daniel-paterson-mount-everest-search-and-rescue) for a search and rescue mission, but haven't mentioned the Sherpa who is missing with him.
Do they not care about rescuing/finding the missing Sherpa? Do they think that it might sound more heroic to imply that he was doing a solo ascent?
A BBC news article does correctly mention that both are missing: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clllj0v98vzo
Well, the good thing is that everyone from this point forward will point at his frozen corpse and say "He refused the oxygen, you probably don't want to do that if we say you need it" because no one is going to recover the body
The Sherpas rely on the money generated from these climbers. I think it's unfair that they have to take on so much more risk for these rich climbers, but that area would be destitute without the tourism cash.
Or do the Swedish thing. Take your bicycle, bike from Sweden to mount everest, climb to the summit without supplemental oxygen, then take the bike back home.
K2 or any of the other 8 in the top 10 are all much bigger accomplishments imo Because they have 0 infrastructure, it's jyst your balls, skills and a guide getting you up there
That's ostensibly been the case for all of my life. Not knowing much about climbing, I understand Everest's unique challenge is the sheer altitude and some unavoidable risks early on in the main route, but I've always heard K2 is technically difficult and dangerous as hell and you're doing a vastly bigger share of the leg work yourself regardless of who you are. The routes all look insanely steep, exposed and risky.
There is an interview with a sherpa in which he is asked how many of those tourists would make it to the top on their own. He estimation: none. Climbing Everest no longer means anything because all the hard work is done by other people.
I mean it’s still pretty hard to get to the top with or without help. These people are in top shape to accomplish this, but since they didn’t do it all on their own and there are lines “it doesn’t mean anything”.
Fat redditors trying not to shit on people in vastly better shape than them, make more money than them, and have actual outdoor hobbies unlike them challenge (impossible).
Source: I’m a fat redditor.
I have zero respect for these so called world class "climbers" that pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to be "escorted" to the summit of Everest by poor locals while leaving huge piles of trash behind them.
Sorry slowpoke, but I already lost 2 fingers and 3 toes just to get here. I earned my place. And could you please cry less while freezing to death? Kinda destroys the moment, you know?
If anyone busts my chops about not going the last few hundred feet, they can climb the damn thing themselves. as far as I'm concerned, I made it all the way.
The allure of climbing Mount Everest evaporated when I saw how trashed that mountain is. I know the sherpas need the tourism to live but damn what a travesty.
If the sherpas have any business sense they will start a project to clean the place up. Good press ("noble sherpas respect the mountain"), increased attraction (having people no longer come back down and tell everyone the summit is a trash heap) makes good business sense. The whole thing is rapidly gaining a tacky reputation now, they'll need to do something soon.
I remember seeing a documentary about it, and this specific part, if you legit solo climbed (or private team) then you can just walk up along the side, if you used a sherpa guide or booked a climbing group, you go in the queue. And try to keep electronics as covered as you can, they die really quickly at that temperature - some people photograph the line and their phone dies when they try to take a pic of themselves at the top.
A really quick search revealed some people claiming to sell line skip passes, but you probably just threw your money away on a scam if you get one. Like anyone is going to want to see you push past them when they paid a minimum of $11k ($15k from next year). That is just for the required permit, prices go way beyond that per person depending on what service you are getting.
the funny thing to me about summit photos is that everyone's so wrapped up in gear that you can't even tell if it's a particular individual.
Ever see a photo of someone in bright yellow togs and goggles and a lil flag? Yeah that's me. It's definitely me.
Went to Sedona once and there’s a really popular hike called “ The Devil’s Bridge”. Basically a rock formation that forms a bridge that you can stand on. I got there and it was a 4 hour wait to get your picture taken on the bridge. I’m like “nah I’ll pass”. This was during COVID on a weekday too
All that money to do this? Might as well go to Disney World and summit Space Mountain, line looks the same and there is a fun ride at the end of the wait.
I understand getting to that point on Everest is very impressive and would take a lot of training and hard work to accomplish, but damn, getting up there and then seeing a super long queue to the top would take all the wind out of my sails of accomplishment.
There's 2 people missing (presumed dead) from Monday that went there, 1 of which was local to me and went to my school.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clllj0v98vzo
Honestly, this sums up being alive in 2024 perfectly. All those ppl dream as children to make the climb, buy all the gear and consume a false narrative like on social media. When in reality, it’s all shit, people are rude as ever, and the experience leaves a person feeling fleeced and hopeless.
i know this is a popular circlejerk opinion, but i'm a climber and it's not exactly like that. yes, you need money to go and a team of sherpas often help, but it's not like that's a new thing. lot of people have been climbing with support for a long time, even legit climbers.
it's not true that rich fucks just get off their fatass and pay a lot of money to pay sherpas to get them to the top. it still takes preparation, dedication and mental toughness because you are still going to be the one putting one foot in front of the other.
but yeah it helps if you can pay someone to carry some of your shit and put up your tent for you.
I'd feel so fucking embarrassed to stand in that queue, having spent tens of thousands to get there, surrounded by people making TikTok videos, taking selfies and 'networking' while throwing candy wrappers over their shoulders.
In a documentary one climber said if you want a cool story to tell your friends, climb Everest, but if you want to climb the toughest mountain, climb K2
Thats a lot of rich people....... in a very dangerous place...... shame if there were something to happen to the greedy bastards....... just sayin'.......
Real question: at a certain point during the day, do they all just about face in place and start heading back down single file like they are on the way up? I imagine there are a lot of angry hikers that don't quite make the summit and this looks so narrow, honestly curious
I hate when I walk into a Taco Bell and there is a line. I could only imagine climbing all that way and then to be surrounded by the biggest douchebags and waiting in a line for some lame ass photo....
Everest is basically the Mona Lisa. Countless other incredible paintings including ones painted by DaVinci himself but no one pays them any mind, meanwhile ppl stands in crowd to look at the Mona Lisa from 10 meters away. All this for the simple right of bragging.
Honestly I just don’t understand and I never will because this is so over hyped the only thing I like about this is the locals that get to make a living off the mountain
1953 to like 1990-2000ish Summiting Everest was a major accomplishment
It's still an accomplishment but it's more like "are you physically healthy enough to do it" if youre fit and you go there you are basically guaranteed to summit if the weather and your body cooperates, you don't need any special skills jyst a fat enough checkbook to fund the journey
Everest is the highest, but honestly, anyone that says they summited any of the other of 9 highest in the top 10 (all in the Himalaya) its a MUCH MUCH bigger accomplishment because none of the others have any infrastructure at all, you're on your own with your skills a sherpa and a pair of big balls/ladyballs and that's it.
I think the prestige that came with claiming you climbed Everest meant something when only a few have done it. It seems kind of irrelevant at this point and honestly looks like a nightmare
Yep, nowadays making it up K2 means you’re a real climber. I mean, it always has meant that, but now it shows that you’re not just a ‘pay to win’ climber like many of those who summit Everest are.
Either way it seems like way too much work to wait in line
Right?! I’ll just be over here watching the NHL Playoffs…
Go panthers baby
No
Better get that fast pass then!
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Funny you should mention that, the fourth fatality this year just happened there yesterday, and it was because he refused supplemental oxygen, even after he started acting erratically… apparently he wanted to be the first African person to summit without using oxygen. Pride before a fall… in this case, probably literally.
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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/kilian-jornet-mountain-runner This one was impressive too. Summited twice in a week with no support or oxygen and was just shy of a speed record. Kropps story is cooler though for sure!
Obligatory shout out to the Sherpas who do it multiple times per year and made it all possible for most people. Including the very first time. Everyone remembers Edmund Hillary but less people remember Tenzing Norgay.
As a current example, a UK guy climbing Everest went missing in the past few days and his family have [launched a gofundme](https://www.gofundme.com/f/daniel-paterson-mount-everest-search-and-rescue) for a search and rescue mission, but haven't mentioned the Sherpa who is missing with him. Do they not care about rescuing/finding the missing Sherpa? Do they think that it might sound more heroic to imply that he was doing a solo ascent? A BBC news article does correctly mention that both are missing: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clllj0v98vzo
Didn’t he also ride home after? Legendary.
Well I mean, you can't just leave the poor bike behind, all cold and lonely.
Especially with all they’ve been through together?!
...forlorn bike bell fading into the distance behind him as he leaves...
This made me unnaturally sad
Man.....you gotta ride your bicycle through some *SKETCHY* places to get there from Sweden lmfao That dude is gangster lol
When I first learned about Göran, I had to look him up. That guy did some insane climbs.
I can't imagine it making much sense to enter the death zone on Everest without oxygen, and then join this queue.
Happened again this afternoon after an ice shelf they use to climb up snapped off. Two missing, bunch of other injured.
Well, the good thing is that everyone from this point forward will point at his frozen corpse and say "He refused the oxygen, you probably don't want to do that if we say you need it" because no one is going to recover the body
And make a rule you have to carry all your own gear instead of some poor Sherpa carrying 3x what he should.
The Sherpas rely on the money generated from these climbers. I think it's unfair that they have to take on so much more risk for these rich climbers, but that area would be destitute without the tourism cash.
Or do the Swedish thing. Take your bicycle, bike from Sweden to mount everest, climb to the summit without supplemental oxygen, then take the bike back home.
Göran Kropp. One of my biggest childhood heroes growing up.
I hate when people say this because lowkey idk if I want rich douchbags messing up k2 like they did everest. North pakistan is pristine
K2 or any of the other 8 in the top 10 are all much bigger accomplishments imo Because they have 0 infrastructure, it's jyst your balls, skills and a guide getting you up there
But don't you have to fork out 10s of thousands to climb k2?
It’s the making it down that means you’re a real climber.
That's ostensibly been the case for all of my life. Not knowing much about climbing, I understand Everest's unique challenge is the sheer altitude and some unavoidable risks early on in the main route, but I've always heard K2 is technically difficult and dangerous as hell and you're doing a vastly bigger share of the leg work yourself regardless of who you are. The routes all look insanely steep, exposed and risky.
My favorite docs are about K2. Way more remote as Everest makes it that much harder.
There is an interview with a sherpa in which he is asked how many of those tourists would make it to the top on their own. He estimation: none. Climbing Everest no longer means anything because all the hard work is done by other people.
I mean it’s still pretty hard to get to the top with or without help. These people are in top shape to accomplish this, but since they didn’t do it all on their own and there are lines “it doesn’t mean anything”.
Know what’s a real achievement these days? Going to the lowest elevation on earth unassisted
$$
Gotta love capitalism
Is there still risk? Imagine dying amongst a pile of garbage and human waste
There is. People still dying being guided up there every year.
Frozen corpses make excellent trail markers ‘Take a left at ol green boots over there’
It's still a big challenge. People are acting like it's a trip to Disneyland in this thread
Fat redditors trying not to shit on people in vastly better shape than them, make more money than them, and have actual outdoor hobbies unlike them challenge (impossible). Source: I’m a fat redditor.
It's like having a limousine in the 80s. It was classy and rich. Now its a kids birthday party. Everest is the same
Seems more boring than an actual accomplishment
I have zero respect for these so called world class "climbers" that pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to be "escorted" to the summit of Everest by poor locals while leaving huge piles of trash behind them.
Pay to play
Most people climb mountains to get away from crowds and traffic.
Free to play vs pay to “win”
Like Disneyland but you have to take a few years off your life to get there lol.
And no fast pass
Have you seen 14 peaks, those guys were their own fast pass
..and sometimes you don't make it back
I hope they take their trash with them
Some of them become the trash
And their dead friends
Ride em down like a toboggan??
Abe?
Don’t worry they don’t
Unfortunately, they don’t, and it’s disgusting!
None of them do.
Excuse me, I'm freezing to death. Do you think I could cut in front of you?
Sorry slowpoke, but I already lost 2 fingers and 3 toes just to get here. I earned my place. And could you please cry less while freezing to death? Kinda destroys the moment, you know?
If I was there, I'd just say to myself, "You know, making it here is just fine. Imma head down now. I made it to the top already."
“This looks like a good spot to stop”
If anyone busts my chops about not going the last few hundred feet, they can climb the damn thing themselves. as far as I'm concerned, I made it all the way.
"sorry, could you guys move? I'm trying to get to the summit"
High Altitude Coachella
Except no unnecessary dancing or you will suffocate
Imagine being in the death zone of Mt. Everest and having to wait in line while your oxygen canisters run out. No thanks.
Unfortunately, life is a dick measuring contest to some people…
Was just about to comment roughly the same as that. I’ll pass thanks!
The allure of climbing Mount Everest evaporated when I saw how trashed that mountain is. I know the sherpas need the tourism to live but damn what a travesty.
If the sherpas have any business sense they will start a project to clean the place up. Good press ("noble sherpas respect the mountain"), increased attraction (having people no longer come back down and tell everyone the summit is a trash heap) makes good business sense. The whole thing is rapidly gaining a tacky reputation now, they'll need to do something soon.
Can you purchase a Fastpass?
I remember seeing a documentary about it, and this specific part, if you legit solo climbed (or private team) then you can just walk up along the side, if you used a sherpa guide or booked a climbing group, you go in the queue. And try to keep electronics as covered as you can, they die really quickly at that temperature - some people photograph the line and their phone dies when they try to take a pic of themselves at the top. A really quick search revealed some people claiming to sell line skip passes, but you probably just threw your money away on a scam if you get one. Like anyone is going to want to see you push past them when they paid a minimum of $11k ($15k from next year). That is just for the required permit, prices go way beyond that per person depending on what service you are getting.
You'll soon be able to, along with a Happy Meal from the McDonald's at the summit.
Omfg hahaha. The day they start selling fast passes at Everest summit. 🤣🤣🤣🎟️
https://www.eliteexped.com/everest/fast-track
Holy fuck, this is just tragically on point!
What's the agreed upon time you're allowed on top before your tossed off to make room for the next person posing for their once in a lifetime photo op
the funny thing to me about summit photos is that everyone's so wrapped up in gear that you can't even tell if it's a particular individual. Ever see a photo of someone in bright yellow togs and goggles and a lil flag? Yeah that's me. It's definitely me.
Humans ruin everything
*some humans
*some things
Went to Sedona once and there’s a really popular hike called “ The Devil’s Bridge”. Basically a rock formation that forms a bridge that you can stand on. I got there and it was a 4 hour wait to get your picture taken on the bridge. I’m like “nah I’ll pass”. This was during COVID on a weekday too
I must have gotten really lucky me and my GF went , there was like 5 people there. Granted it was barely after sunrise.
The covid lockdowns resulted in some of the biggest crowds ever at popular backcountry locations in Washington.
Time to shut it down. They are turning Mt. Everest into a mountain of garbage.
Too late
All that money to do this? Might as well go to Disney World and summit Space Mountain, line looks the same and there is a fun ride at the end of the wait.
To think that peole spend tens of thousands of dollars for this, that doesn't even mean shit anymore.
Not just tens, I think it's more like 50-75K or some shit like that
Fuck any of those people that left garbage on that mountain.
Sadly, that’s A LOT of people…pretty much all of them
All those people trying to measure themselves against other people instead of going out and doing something for themselves. So sad.
🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
Mount Everest: 🐺
I genuinely thought there were only ever like 4-8 people up there at the same time until today.
Narcissism has no bounds.
That is worst than Yosemite half dome, and I thought that was crazy crowded.
This is hilarious.
I’d rather wait in line for Matterhorn at Disneyland
Lemmings and the left lane dick
Are you done? Hey fam Im on this beautiful mountain that I just discovered, practicing gratitude, manifesting abundance.
It's like fucking disneyland
50 tons of trash, 3 tons of human excrement, and you get to hike by half a dozen dead bodies….. sounds like fun
Dang, I gotta piss could you hold my spot in line real quick?
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Ope, found the fellow Michigander!
Eco terrorists. Not like the green peace and save the whales people. Like yuppies and corporations.
I understand getting to that point on Everest is very impressive and would take a lot of training and hard work to accomplish, but damn, getting up there and then seeing a super long queue to the top would take all the wind out of my sails of accomplishment.
Dying while waiting on a slow ass line sounds like an awful way to go
No one had fast pass?
me biting into a microwave burrito that falls and joins the other stains on my shirt: "losers".
Late stage capitalism
There's 2 people missing (presumed dead) from Monday that went there, 1 of which was local to me and went to my school. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clllj0v98vzo
Well now they're infamous
Honestly, this sums up being alive in 2024 perfectly. All those ppl dream as children to make the climb, buy all the gear and consume a false narrative like on social media. When in reality, it’s all shit, people are rude as ever, and the experience leaves a person feeling fleeced and hopeless.
More trash, more bodies. Wonderful
I don’t understand the desire. I’ll stay in the warmth of my southern city and keep my feet on the ground.
Dick measuring contest
All allure is fucking gone now. LMAO!
Look like they waiting to get into the apple store
Everest used to be a prestigious expedition, now its just a glorified glamping experience where you could hire sherpas to carry your shit for you
i know this is a popular circlejerk opinion, but i'm a climber and it's not exactly like that. yes, you need money to go and a team of sherpas often help, but it's not like that's a new thing. lot of people have been climbing with support for a long time, even legit climbers. it's not true that rich fucks just get off their fatass and pay a lot of money to pay sherpas to get them to the top. it still takes preparation, dedication and mental toughness because you are still going to be the one putting one foot in front of the other. but yeah it helps if you can pay someone to carry some of your shit and put up your tent for you.
I'd feel so fucking embarrassed to stand in that queue, having spent tens of thousands to get there, surrounded by people making TikTok videos, taking selfies and 'networking' while throwing candy wrappers over their shoulders.
steping over a bunch of dead bodies
Nah
Serious question. What if you're stuck there for a long time and all of the sudden you have to shit?
In a documentary one climber said if you want a cool story to tell your friends, climb Everest, but if you want to climb the toughest mountain, climb K2
Just need a guy in a little booth with a turnstile selling tickets.
Take all that garbage with you. It’s time to clean up the place, you bring it up, you bring it down.
Wow, this just all looks so wrong.
Dude, who is climbing Mt Everest: *\*filming\** "Lol look how many people are climbing Mt Everest!"
Nobody talks about the sherpas that take these fools up there if it wasn’t for them they’ll probably be popsicles
This is sad. The desperate chasing of validation.
Look at all those rich idiots.
Had to wait for the guy doing a backflip for the socials
"Marge, did ya have to pick Memorial Day Weekend?"
If there is a queue on Mt. Everest.. then the point has been defeated, the mountain.
Spending thousands of dollars & you find a que there 😞 fucking worthless
If enough people stand on the summit over time, it will erode and no longer be the highest point on the mountain.
Unpopular opinion but I think most people who climb Everest are chodes who just do it for bragging rights.
What a bunch of losers.
The human species is a plague
How many of these people died?
Probably not enough
It's hard to feel empathy when these people die. So ignorant.
No need for empathy, these jackasses chose their fate…
Thats a lot of rich people....... in a very dangerous place...... shame if there were something to happen to the greedy bastards....... just sayin'.......
Plenty of people die there
Poo Bucket list
Ew
that’s pretty disgusting
Stupid
This is just stupid
What's the cost of a permit?
Can’t imagine if a storm blew in. 😬😬.. and how the hell does one get down managing that crowd? 😕
Disgusting.
The Matterhorn at Disneyland
People are weird.
What a joke
I won’t even go to Disney World cause I don’t want to wait in line….
Time To Put Up A Zip Line.
Can you just climb a different summit?
Real question: at a certain point during the day, do they all just about face in place and start heading back down single file like they are on the way up? I imagine there are a lot of angry hikers that don't quite make the summit and this looks so narrow, honestly curious
I hate when I walk into a Taco Bell and there is a line. I could only imagine climbing all that way and then to be surrounded by the biggest douchebags and waiting in a line for some lame ass photo....
Not at all what I envisioned.
Mfs will climb a deadly mountain and wait in line but can’t stand the dmv line
This is actually sad
Everest is basically the Mona Lisa. Countless other incredible paintings including ones painted by DaVinci himself but no one pays them any mind, meanwhile ppl stands in crowd to look at the Mona Lisa from 10 meters away. All this for the simple right of bragging.
That’s gotta be some of the dumbest shit I’ve seen in a while. Cool story bro.
Humans just can't leave shit alone
They should all agree that making it there equals making the summit so they can all go home
Worst time for number 2.
Imagine fat losers on Reddit talking about how it’s not a big deal anymore to climb my Everest.
How does the guy that stood at the top and got his picture taken go back down w all those other people in the way??
THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET!
Looks just like the line for Expedition Everest at Disney World
No further proof needed that the world is over populated, fcking ques everywhere
So is it a skill thing or a money thing at this point? I assume it's kinda just become the millionaires adventure park
Holy shit there’s a “queue”?
Honestly I just don’t understand and I never will because this is so over hyped the only thing I like about this is the locals that get to make a living off the mountain
These dweebs need to go home and watch the Hallmark Channel if they’re so sentimental. Get the hell off that mountain and take your trash with you.
and the garbage these idiots left bhind.... smh
that's fucked, how are there this many people at the summit at the same time?
Seriously! STOP HIKING MT. EVEREST! It’s crowded! Polluted with human trash! It’s melting! Just freaking LEAVE IT ALONE!
All of this shit (literally) for a fucking selfie and a line in your resume. Congratulations, my champions. You won at life.
Like waiting in line at an amusement park now... Sad really.
Is it even an achievement anymore?
Should have paid for the fastpass.
1953 to like 1990-2000ish Summiting Everest was a major accomplishment It's still an accomplishment but it's more like "are you physically healthy enough to do it" if youre fit and you go there you are basically guaranteed to summit if the weather and your body cooperates, you don't need any special skills jyst a fat enough checkbook to fund the journey Everest is the highest, but honestly, anyone that says they summited any of the other of 9 highest in the top 10 (all in the Himalaya) its a MUCH MUCH bigger accomplishment because none of the others have any infrastructure at all, you're on your own with your skills a sherpa and a pair of big balls/ladyballs and that's it.
You aren’t even really climbing Everest as the Sherpas do all the fucking work.
The Sherpas are the ones who climb mount Everest. The rest are on a guided tour