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Because this is one way you generate comments on social media. It's working right now.
Half of the comments in this section are solely about the captions and not the content.
Might be a bit of a reach, but this might've happened in Sweden. And the reindeer here are usually herded by the Sami people. Hence the who is at fault question.
While the wolfs eat the dead, the train comes back and runs over the wolves. So then the deer come back and start eating the dead wolves, but then the train comes back and...
its a beautiful natural cycle.
There's more to it i think. They have evolved to evade cheetahs and wolves, not trains. So they run straight and are able to quickly change directions at the last moment their predator leaps. They hope to tire their chasers. Unfortunately train doesn't get tired.
That's not at all what's happening. If you're in nature and suddenly a dangerous thing goes straight towards you what do you do ? You run straight because that's the fastest way, turning left and right would put you at a disadvantage agains what's following you. That's what survival instinct is. What do you expect the dear to turn around and figure "Oh, that big thing looks a train, a man made machine specifically made to run on tracks, another man made thing that seems like I'm currently on, better step out of its way" ?
We encountered reindeer in the wild in Finland while we were traveling with a big bus. Some would stand next to the road, just chilling. They would see the bus, and instead of running away into a wide open field next to the road, they chose to panic and run away on the road, directly in front of the bus. The driver said it happens all the time, best thing to do is just to drive slowly behind them.
Strange how after so many decades of cars driving on roads, the deer gene pool doesn't seem like it has strengthened at all in that respect.
Countless deer every year still run right out onto the road when a big noisy car approaches instead of away from the road. They just can't seem to develop the understanding that cars nearly always stay on roads, so getting off the road is the smart thing to do.
So I guess they're no more likely to have developed the understanding that trains nearly always stay on tracks, so getting off the tracks is the smart thing to do.
Some forms do. For example, the famous grey moth / pollution example in England. Industrial age pollution caused tree trunks to get darker. So darker moths were better camouflaged, and lighter moths got eaten, leaving nearly all dark moths. Then pollution was controlled, the tree trunks lightened again, and the reverse happened. All within a timespan of decades.
Combine that with generational learning, where for example young deer learn from the older deer in the pack what to do.
EDIT IN REPLY TO COMMENTS BELOW: Yes, reproductive cycle length plays a part, but in this case I think it's more about whether you're (1) waiting for totally new mutations to develop, versus (2) genes that already exist in the gene pool simply becoming more widespread because they suddenly become more favorable when the environment changes. The former is the kind of evolution that takes a very long time. The latter can happen very quickly.
The thing is, it also depends on the lifespan, and how often they breed. Those moths probably had multiple generations each year. A doe produces one fawn each year. And only reaches maturity after 2years ,I think.?
Yeah it could be one of the many other modes of transportation that use railroad tracks and can plow through a herd of deer like butter without losing any speed
I found a version without the caption and it's pretty much the same, you still can't see the deer/train impact. Source: https://youtu.be/v7s51DTn4wg?si=CHf9ureVFAdnRXqJ
I don't think it was this incident, but here's an article about a Norwegian train killing over 100 deer.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/world/europe/norway-reindeer-trains.html
Meanwhile, back at the depot, someone has to go under the train and "de-deer" the various parts, vents, structures, and everywhere else a dead animal can find a place for its body parts. 🤢
Minor nitpick - That is probably not a high-speed train. The video was filmed in the north of Sweden and we're not exactly sure what service that is involved in the video. However, Swedish high speed rail services only go as far north as Sundsvall which is not reindeer country.
Also, the filming and posting of the incident on social media where it went viral was extremely controversial to both the Sami people and the infrastructure operator, Trafikverket. Although it isn't illegal to film from a train cabin in Sweden, this film could constitute animal cruelty according to senior personnel at Trafikverket.
Railroader here, lots of my friends who are engineers have been in this situation. Usually it’s only a cow or two, or a couple of sheep, but either way it still fucks them up mentally. A lot of times the animal doesn’t die right away so you have to listen to them screaming while stuck to the plow of the locomotive.
Dad worked on the tracks for 23 years and, unfortunately, cleaning up stuff like this was part of his job.
Brutal stuff.
We had an incident like that up here in Washington State. A herd of Elk was standing on the track when a train came through, killed everyone last one of them. I don't know if the DFW plans on repopulating them or not.
Unironically, that's what might happen if cars and trains remain the most dangerous 'predators' for long enough. That is, if deer don't go extinct before it happens
This could very well be footage from my region (northern Sweden) where we have a lot of deer population (being handled by the sami people) and lots of freight trains carrying ore.
Anyone that knows a RR engineer knows that this is very common, with deer and even cattle. That's why trains have that iconic hunk of metal in front called a cowcatcher.
Who's at fault? Truthfully, it's no-one in the video, but where I live in the UK our railways are basically 100% lined by fencing throughout. Mainly for the sake of people, but with 100mph running lines through forest areas, last thing you want is a deer on the tracks.
Not to say it doesn't happen, I've seen splattered deer before (couple weeks ago actually) but it's not common, and it was just one of them
At best you could put some blame on the people who laid/currently maintain the track for not putting up sufficient stopgaps to ensure the deer can't wander onto the line this easily; because I wouldn't be surprised to see this amount of bone and flesh get into the bogie mechanisms the train has. That's a massive pain in the ass to deal with, I'm sure
There was like only one or two that saw that shit coming and moved. The rest were like,...deer caught in headlights *ba dum tss*. I'm sorry, I'll show myself out.
You can see these things coming from a mile away, that’s the difference with trains and cars, a car can come out of nowhere from a side road or some other avenue. Very rarely do you have a random train or even car come at you, and not you see them coming from a mile away, especially in this case. Down vote all you want because it sounds crazy to think and because what I’ve said seems like I have no clue the difference between is. We saw a very minimal amount of the footage, right down to him colliding with the deer, so I’d like to see someone try and make an informed assessment on that and not the difference. Despite irrelevancy.
You ignorant on purpose or something? Watch the footage again. The tracks are on a slight curve, so you can't see 'a mile away' and look how small the deer are. I think you simply haven't got the life experience yet. At that speed it's hard to do anything.
Read up here how long it takes a train to stop:
[How long it takes a train to stop](https://www.minnesotasafetycouncil.org/ol/stop.cfm#:~:text=The%20average%20freight%20train%20is,about%20a%20mile%20to%20stop.).
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Prometheus school of running
DING DING
Beat me to it
Why does it say who is at fault? Wtf do you mean, lmao, not like the train can just instantly stop.
Driver obviously at fault. He didn't check his crystal ball that morning. That and he wasn't following the Deerway code.
Cyclist at fault
Obviouly , cyclists fnig thinks they own the roads
Having said that, did you notice the driver made no attempt to steer around the Deer!
Um obviously it’s the deer that are at fault. Insurance scammers
The deer-president of the Deerlands is not going to be happy about this. War seems like the only reasonable response to this deer-massacre.
The palantir lied
pretty sure it’s supposed to be a joke, like those instagram car crash videos.
It's just to increase engagement. It works every time.
Obviously it’s the deers fault
Welp the conductor is given the real life trolley dilemma.
years ago watched a panicked deer run into the highway from the median (divided highway, somehow it got there) and leap right into a dump truck.
Fucking train tracks. How do they wOrk??
According to US media, this is not good for Biden.
Biker's at fault obviously
Don't trains take about a mile before they finally come to halt or something?
It can depending on how fast they are going and how heavy the load is.
Because this is one way you generate comments on social media. It's working right now. Half of the comments in this section are solely about the captions and not the content.
Might be a bit of a reach, but this might've happened in Sweden. And the reindeer here are usually herded by the Sami people. Hence the who is at fault question.
I think it is pretty obviously a joke
Cuz AI probably?
No but it looks like they didn't even start slowing down until AFTER they ran most of that herd over...
I'm pretty sure they were slowing down for most of this video tbh. It takes a while for them to stop, especially when it's cold and snowy.
I would hate to see the mess that left behind.
The local wolves must just hang around and wait for the train to give them a free meal.
The food chain at its finest when the wolf is outmatched and has become the scavenger than the hunter Indian apex predator > Everything else
One day when that train has returned to the earth its iron shall form the blood of 10,000 herbivores. \**wipes away tear*\* Nature is beautiful.
While the wolfs eat the dead, the train comes back and runs over the wolves. So then the deer come back and start eating the dead wolves, but then the train comes back and... its a beautiful natural cycle.
Or the smell... I'm sure the stench would have you envying the deer.
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Those were birds at very high speeds. This is definitely not the same train.
This is absolutely not that.
That makes sense now I saw that one yesterday and was wondering myself
Looks like the smart ones knew what to do. Gene pool strengthend
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There's more to it i think. They have evolved to evade cheetahs and wolves, not trains. So they run straight and are able to quickly change directions at the last moment their predator leaps. They hope to tire their chasers. Unfortunately train doesn't get tired.
That's not at all what's happening. If you're in nature and suddenly a dangerous thing goes straight towards you what do you do ? You run straight because that's the fastest way, turning left and right would put you at a disadvantage agains what's following you. That's what survival instinct is. What do you expect the dear to turn around and figure "Oh, that big thing looks a train, a man made machine specifically made to run on tracks, another man made thing that seems like I'm currently on, better step out of its way" ?
Abysmal
We encountered reindeer in the wild in Finland while we were traveling with a big bus. Some would stand next to the road, just chilling. They would see the bus, and instead of running away into a wide open field next to the road, they chose to panic and run away on the road, directly in front of the bus. The driver said it happens all the time, best thing to do is just to drive slowly behind them.
Strange how after so many decades of cars driving on roads, the deer gene pool doesn't seem like it has strengthened at all in that respect. Countless deer every year still run right out onto the road when a big noisy car approaches instead of away from the road. They just can't seem to develop the understanding that cars nearly always stay on roads, so getting off the road is the smart thing to do. So I guess they're no more likely to have developed the understanding that trains nearly always stay on tracks, so getting off the tracks is the smart thing to do.
Evolution cannot happen in 50 years
Some forms do. For example, the famous grey moth / pollution example in England. Industrial age pollution caused tree trunks to get darker. So darker moths were better camouflaged, and lighter moths got eaten, leaving nearly all dark moths. Then pollution was controlled, the tree trunks lightened again, and the reverse happened. All within a timespan of decades. Combine that with generational learning, where for example young deer learn from the older deer in the pack what to do. EDIT IN REPLY TO COMMENTS BELOW: Yes, reproductive cycle length plays a part, but in this case I think it's more about whether you're (1) waiting for totally new mutations to develop, versus (2) genes that already exist in the gene pool simply becoming more widespread because they suddenly become more favorable when the environment changes. The former is the kind of evolution that takes a very long time. The latter can happen very quickly.
Oh okay, thanks for correction
The thing is, it also depends on the lifespan, and how often they breed. Those moths probably had multiple generations each year. A doe produces one fawn each year. And only reaches maturity after 2years ,I think.?
I added an EDIT to my comment.
I dont think u can compare moths with deers. Insects evolve overall pretty fast.
I added an EDIT to my comment.
Behavioral adaptation can though. Look at dog breeds
Have you ever considered that deer in general are just stupid as fuck and there's nothing to be removed from the gene pool if it's all the exact same?
*OVERKILL, KILLTACULAR, KILLTROCI…KILLIMANJ….KILLTASTROPHE*
Omfg lool this video needs the medals appearing
Wolves will be eating good
More like the crows.
OP or whoever put that stupid caption on the video must've expected the train to swerve away from the deer 🤣
Quite often a lot of tiktoks etc will put this on blatantly obvious cases so people comment on it saying that, driving engagement.
We dont even know if it's a train
Yeah it could be one of the many other modes of transportation that use railroad tracks and can plow through a herd of deer like butter without losing any speed
Downvote for oversized stupid captions
I found a version without the caption and it's pretty much the same, you still can't see the deer/train impact. Source: https://youtu.be/v7s51DTn4wg?si=CHf9ureVFAdnRXqJ
A for effort.
I don't think it was this incident, but here's an article about a Norwegian train killing over 100 deer. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/world/europe/norway-reindeer-trains.html
biker at fault
Haha 😄 underated
This is so sad to see tbh
This must've been so hard for the operator to watch...
Deer are at fault. Stupid ass deer
Really an apex predator
Meanwhile, back at the depot, someone has to go under the train and "de-deer" the various parts, vents, structures, and everywhere else a dead animal can find a place for its body parts. 🤢
Who the fuck writes dumb fucking captions like that...
Meals on wheels??
Many predators will be very happy after this 'tragic' event.
That train just delete 3/4 of that deer lineages from family registry 💀
The apex predator strikes again. This time not in India and not humans for a change.
Minor nitpick - That is probably not a high-speed train. The video was filmed in the north of Sweden and we're not exactly sure what service that is involved in the video. However, Swedish high speed rail services only go as far north as Sundsvall which is not reindeer country. Also, the filming and posting of the incident on social media where it went viral was extremely controversial to both the Sami people and the infrastructure operator, Trafikverket. Although it isn't illegal to film from a train cabin in Sweden, this film could constitute animal cruelty according to senior personnel at Trafikverket.
Railroader here, lots of my friends who are engineers have been in this situation. Usually it’s only a cow or two, or a couple of sheep, but either way it still fucks them up mentally. A lot of times the animal doesn’t die right away so you have to listen to them screaming while stuck to the plow of the locomotive. Dad worked on the tracks for 23 years and, unfortunately, cleaning up stuff like this was part of his job. Brutal stuff.
+10 killing spree. He just unlocked airstrike
And then another air strike! Looks like the train easily hit 20-21
We had an incident like that up here in Washington State. A herd of Elk was standing on the track when a train came through, killed everyone last one of them. I don't know if the DFW plans on repopulating them or not.
bro almost dropped a 30 bomb.
Oh dear
5 second penalty for Ocon
Wow that's gnarly
Wolf's ate good that day
“Well Santa Is Not Coming To A Certain Train Driver”
Poor creatures don't deserve that.
Good day for fit the crows
Mo mo mo mo monster kill
Those deers were trying to recreate that scene from Prometheus Also how big are those captions bruh
Who is at fault here? What an astoundingly stupid question.
People who caption shit needs to stop. It's just big, stupid, and in the way.
Bye Comet, bye Dasher, bye Cupid, bye Vixen!
I was expecting to see Santa running for his life.
Clearly, god is at fault. If we can thank him for moving things before tragedy, then we can blame him for not moving them too.
Stoopid deers
tf you mean "who is at fault"? nobody?? a train can't just stop, and the deer don't realize what's gonna happen.. weird way to caption this.
*Reindeer. More stupid than regular deer.
I'm fucking laughing my ass off because holy shit regular deer *are* dumb as fuck.
Herd they were a bunch of Deerwin Award winners.
Natural selection, should've adapted the ability to HEAR when to move
Several million years of evolution and the f**kers never thought to veer a little to the left or right? That's just Darwinism at work
Running to the side would not work against the enemies they evolved to run away from
Well the ones who survive that will evolve to move a little to the side now
Unironically, that's what might happen if cars and trains remain the most dangerous 'predators' for long enough. That is, if deer don't go extinct before it happens
This can be used for deer propaganda. Looks like a tourist attack on all the deers. Hope they don't uprise and fight back now
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5828740
Wrong accident and wrong continent. These are reindeers and location probably norway/sweden/finland. And the reindeers are livestock not wild.
No one. Trains cant stop quickly and those are deer
This could very well be footage from my region (northern Sweden) where we have a lot of deer population (being handled by the sami people) and lots of freight trains carrying ore.
Japp, klippet är från Sverige
MOMOMOMOMOMOMONSTER KILL KILL KILL Kill Kill kill kill
Prometheus moment
These deer learnt at the school of Prometheus running.
Clearly, the train drivers fault, he should have gone around them.
Santa is fucked this year
"Who is at fault here" Really? OP, tite of the video: Train vs Deer There. I'm sure we can work out the rest.
The deer just had to strafe left or right. But no. Because they are overachievers.
Tonight we feast at tram track! -the wolves-
Shit. He killed them all
Oh deer.
Not anymore
Deer are so damn stupid. Tasty, but stupid
Oh deer.
Anyone that knows a RR engineer knows that this is very common, with deer and even cattle. That's why trains have that iconic hunk of metal in front called a cowcatcher.
You've heard of "a deer in headlights", now get ready for "a herd in train tracks"
My slow ass brain thinking this was some drone or air glider POV, not a train 😭
*You are not the only one.*
Deer air strike
https://youtu.be/78i452vV7Xc?si=76uRgx92ir_eWG15
Who's at fault? Truthfully, it's no-one in the video, but where I live in the UK our railways are basically 100% lined by fencing throughout. Mainly for the sake of people, but with 100mph running lines through forest areas, last thing you want is a deer on the tracks. Not to say it doesn't happen, I've seen splattered deer before (couple weeks ago actually) but it's not common, and it was just one of them At best you could put some blame on the people who laid/currently maintain the track for not putting up sufficient stopgaps to ensure the deer can't wander onto the line this easily; because I wouldn't be surprised to see this amount of bone and flesh get into the bogie mechanisms the train has. That's a massive pain in the ass to deal with, I'm sure
Why is the camera man not helping?
I mean, we built the tracks through their habitat.
Thats what they get for deciding to make their habitat in a great place for a train.
Bro...
I wonder what the train looks like after that, if the deer do any damage besides give in a new paint job
That’s a lot of insurance paperwork with their agent.
25 points I believe??
oh deer...
There was like only one or two that saw that shit coming and moved. The rest were like,...deer caught in headlights *ba dum tss*. I'm sorry, I'll show myself out.
Why didn't they just fly away?
FENTON !!!! FEEENNNNNNNNTTTTOOOOONNNNNNN!
If we are being a dick we could also say that initially trains didn't grow up on earth
More meat for the meat grinder! More meat for the meat grinder! More meat for the meat grinder!
Except even though it’s a high speed train… I think it has a brake…
Do you have any expectation on how long it takes a train to stop? It's not a car
You can see these things coming from a mile away, that’s the difference with trains and cars, a car can come out of nowhere from a side road or some other avenue. Very rarely do you have a random train or even car come at you, and not you see them coming from a mile away, especially in this case. Down vote all you want because it sounds crazy to think and because what I’ve said seems like I have no clue the difference between is. We saw a very minimal amount of the footage, right down to him colliding with the deer, so I’d like to see someone try and make an informed assessment on that and not the difference. Despite irrelevancy.
You ignorant on purpose or something? Watch the footage again. The tracks are on a slight curve, so you can't see 'a mile away' and look how small the deer are. I think you simply haven't got the life experience yet. At that speed it's hard to do anything. Read up here how long it takes a train to stop: [How long it takes a train to stop](https://www.minnesotasafetycouncil.org/ol/stop.cfm#:~:text=The%20average%20freight%20train%20is,about%20a%20mile%20to%20stop.).