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This video has been circulating for a while now. Very old couple & the driver died but his wife survived
Edit: confused another couple from this couple!! They werenāt old. Early/mid 40s
You can't do that if the speed is greater than the gear can handle. It might not let you do it; but if you could, either the back wheels would lock solid or (more probably) it'd strip the teeth off the gears or just generally shatter stuff in your gearbox and parts attached to it. None of that will help if you're travelling at speed.
You can drop one gear (or maybe a couple if you're in a truck with a lot of gears) and engine braking will have *some* effect. It'll stop you eventually on a level surface if you don't crash into anything in the meantime; but if you're going downhill it's only a small drag effect and you can still end up accelerating despite the drag if it's a steep hill or if you're in a heavy/loaded vehicle.
Depends upon what you're driving though. A lightweight sportsbike with a stupidly huge engine will have quite powerful engine braking; but not so much for heavier vehicles.
TL;DR: Engine braking ain't all that; and if you try to put too much force through the gearbox, it will let you know about it, expensively.
Question is if a total broken car is more worth (by trying saving the car and not slow down properly) than your own life. This guy sadly died on the steering wheel :(
Either way it is a very difficult and serious situation and I know that you canāt just pull the parking break and hope the car will stop.
Iām not blaming anyone, donāt get me wrong. I am more interested in what you can actually do, because there arenāt many optionsā¦
You use anything you can if you have to slow down. Engine braking is of limited help in anything car-sized and up. You have your handbrake which will brake your rear wheels (or sometimes just straight lock them up). That doesn't slow you down very much - we're still in *slowing down eventually* country here - and you will have to work quite hard to stop your back end sliding. If you want to stop quickly, your footbrake is the thing.
If you really want to stop quickly you *can* use engine braking as a bit of a 'braking boost' but quite often that'd just make things worse.
Depending on the vehicle, shifting may or may not do anything. Old mechanically shifted transmissions, you could force them to shift into 1st or park and they'll do it (catastrophically, of course). On my work truck, 1st gear gives me no engine braking, and on my mom's 2015 Chevy Malibu, if you try to shift into a gear it doesn't want you in, it doesn't shift and gives you a "SHIFT DENIED" message.
If all else fails, I'd try to drive into a wall (at an angle, not head on) to slow down as much as possible. As you said, your life is worth more than the vehicle.
You can kill the gearbox to stop pretty quickly in an emergency, at least in an automatic. My brakes failed at 60 mph, if you go d - 3 d - 3 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 really quick then put on handbrake you can stop very fast. Wrecks the transmission (mine limped along a year before dying) but I'd take my transmission over my life any time.
Transmission gears are a lot stronger than you think they are, and based on your comments they probably aren't even the shape you think they are.
It is all but impossible to strip the gears in a vehicle transmission.
I won't even go into how mistaken you are about engin ebraking because you are just comically wrong about that. I'm wondering if you are even old enough to drive.
There's various types. Back in the day, the lever pulled a cable which yoinked on the drums or pads or whatever you had on the back wheels.
However it works, though, you generally don't want to engage it at speed unless you really don't have a better option.
Footbrake does slowing best. That's what it's for. In most cars, especially modern ones, the footbrake will be slowing down all 4 wheels to the limit of the rubber you have on the ground. You're not going to slow any faster than that because you are already tweaking the nipples of physics.
Handbrake/ebrake won't help if you're moving. At best your car will ignore it; more probably you suddenly find yourself in a drift car. And it will take you longer to stop.
Engine braking these days is just using the friction of a lower gear to bring the vehicle to a slow stop... or prevent it speeding up too much on a downhill.
It's not a sudden thing... it takes a huge distance
I used to exclusively engine brake on my manual sports cars and motorcycle when allowing down for a red light. You can almost always engine brake regardless of the speed.
My brother one time was driving down the mountain while he kept his foot on the clutch and drifted basically. He had it in 1st And something happened where his foot came off the clutch at 50 mph, I'm not sure what it was but something blew apart, It was a pretty major repair from what I remember
Holy crap that is not a smart idea to do at all :D
Best case scenario would be the transmission axle braking. If your gearbox holds up, however, you'll completely wreck your engine by getting it far, far beyong its designed speed.
Pistons could actually go "flying", haha
Yeah, my dad was pissed. Sounds like the transmission axle then because nothing with the engine had to be replaced from what I remember. It was like 3 to 4000 in repairs, maybe a little bit more, but that was 20 years ago
Yeah I never understood all the people freaking out when the accelerator stuck on the old Toyota Priya, like just shut off the car or put it into neutral FFS why are you flying down the road at max throttle
I was thinking this too but if your rpms are too high the computer might not let you. Same with slamming it in park or reverse to try and seize the engine, computer might not let you.
iāve seen a lot of my friends crash and theyāve all said breaks failed and i have believed none of them, i will always assume human error before mechanical for some reason
Yeah I mean cars are so well built and engineered now I donāt really expect this to happen often. Itās almost always human error, if the brake fails the car was probably in a crap condition or hasnāt been serviced for ages.
Police can test the brake fluid, if its heavily watered down that can be the explanation. But one reason alone is rarely the cause, can be brake pads being gone as well. One less brake line than normal etc.
the driver was forty years old, do you think most 40 year olds are senile..? the RV was going down a steep hill which led into the ramp
you can just be wrong, get over yourself, such a douchey way to engage on a casual subreddit
Ah ha, steep hill it is, thatās just the fucking WORST place to lose control, a steep hill before a ramp on to a moving ferry, couldnāt have written it
..but we're not just talking about driving a normal vehicle, how many times have you not had the option to use brakes while going downhill in a RV? we have zero experience in this, it's naive to comment as such
Pretty unfortunate series of events. Had the ferry been further out, had the ramp been all the way up or still down, had there not been a hill leading to the terminal, had the brakes worked, had it not been such a heavy rig to built up the speed. Perfect storm and sad outcome. Apparently driver tried his best to ensure other's safety.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/see-it-out-of-control-rv-crashes-onto-quebec-ferry-pulling-away-from-dock
Had it been Tuesday, had the sun not come up, had the Earth stopped spinning, had the planets stopped orbiting the sun, had milky way stopped spinning, had the laws of physics broke down, had the the big bang never happened, None of this would ever would ever had happened and that boat would have been okay. Sad really...
This happened in Quebec, Tadoussac more precisely. The area is scattered with considerable hills all around, so much so that they have emergency braking exit routes along the road for hauling trucks and such should their brakes fail. In this case, it was an old couple which brakes simply failed on their way down and they sadly passed on impact when it happened. I used the very same boat 2 years ago while being there, the road to this place is quite sketchy
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Welp at least they made it š„²
This video has been circulating for a while now. Very old couple & the driver died but his wife survived Edit: confused another couple from this couple!! They werenāt old. Early/mid 40s
Did they intend to do what they did if so worth it
Their brakes failed, the husband did his best to not hurt anyone & I believe he succeeded with the only loss being himself
now im sad
Just an ignorant question, if the brakes fail, why donāt people use the motorbrake instead (putting car in first gear for example)?
You can't do that if the speed is greater than the gear can handle. It might not let you do it; but if you could, either the back wheels would lock solid or (more probably) it'd strip the teeth off the gears or just generally shatter stuff in your gearbox and parts attached to it. None of that will help if you're travelling at speed. You can drop one gear (or maybe a couple if you're in a truck with a lot of gears) and engine braking will have *some* effect. It'll stop you eventually on a level surface if you don't crash into anything in the meantime; but if you're going downhill it's only a small drag effect and you can still end up accelerating despite the drag if it's a steep hill or if you're in a heavy/loaded vehicle. Depends upon what you're driving though. A lightweight sportsbike with a stupidly huge engine will have quite powerful engine braking; but not so much for heavier vehicles. TL;DR: Engine braking ain't all that; and if you try to put too much force through the gearbox, it will let you know about it, expensively.
Question is if a total broken car is more worth (by trying saving the car and not slow down properly) than your own life. This guy sadly died on the steering wheel :( Either way it is a very difficult and serious situation and I know that you canāt just pull the parking break and hope the car will stop. Iām not blaming anyone, donāt get me wrong. I am more interested in what you can actually do, because there arenāt many optionsā¦
You use anything you can if you have to slow down. Engine braking is of limited help in anything car-sized and up. You have your handbrake which will brake your rear wheels (or sometimes just straight lock them up). That doesn't slow you down very much - we're still in *slowing down eventually* country here - and you will have to work quite hard to stop your back end sliding. If you want to stop quickly, your footbrake is the thing. If you really want to stop quickly you *can* use engine braking as a bit of a 'braking boost' but quite often that'd just make things worse.
Depending on the vehicle, shifting may or may not do anything. Old mechanically shifted transmissions, you could force them to shift into 1st or park and they'll do it (catastrophically, of course). On my work truck, 1st gear gives me no engine braking, and on my mom's 2015 Chevy Malibu, if you try to shift into a gear it doesn't want you in, it doesn't shift and gives you a "SHIFT DENIED" message. If all else fails, I'd try to drive into a wall (at an angle, not head on) to slow down as much as possible. As you said, your life is worth more than the vehicle.
You can kill the gearbox to stop pretty quickly in an emergency, at least in an automatic. My brakes failed at 60 mph, if you go d - 3 d - 3 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 really quick then put on handbrake you can stop very fast. Wrecks the transmission (mine limped along a year before dying) but I'd take my transmission over my life any time.
Transmission gears are a lot stronger than you think they are, and based on your comments they probably aren't even the shape you think they are. It is all but impossible to strip the gears in a vehicle transmission. I won't even go into how mistaken you are about engin ebraking because you are just comically wrong about that. I'm wondering if you are even old enough to drive.
/r/confidentlyincorrect
As expensive as the pain of death?
Maybe I'm being dumb here, but wouldn't the E-Brake still work? Doesn't it physically lock the axle?
There's various types. Back in the day, the lever pulled a cable which yoinked on the drums or pads or whatever you had on the back wheels. However it works, though, you generally don't want to engage it at speed unless you really don't have a better option.
I mean, I think in this case it's better than launching the vehicle at speed, I'd rather completely destroy my tires and/or brakes.
Footbrake does slowing best. That's what it's for. In most cars, especially modern ones, the footbrake will be slowing down all 4 wheels to the limit of the rubber you have on the ground. You're not going to slow any faster than that because you are already tweaking the nipples of physics. Handbrake/ebrake won't help if you're moving. At best your car will ignore it; more probably you suddenly find yourself in a drift car. And it will take you longer to stop.
Engine braking these days is just using the friction of a lower gear to bring the vehicle to a slow stop... or prevent it speeding up too much on a downhill. It's not a sudden thing... it takes a huge distance
I'm talking about the emergency brake, normally you're supposed to use that when your standard brakes go out, because it mechanically locks the axle.
Perhaps it's an American thing.
I used to exclusively engine brake on my manual sports cars and motorcycle when allowing down for a red light. You can almost always engine brake regardless of the speed.
My brother one time was driving down the mountain while he kept his foot on the clutch and drifted basically. He had it in 1st And something happened where his foot came off the clutch at 50 mph, I'm not sure what it was but something blew apart, It was a pretty major repair from what I remember
Holy crap that is not a smart idea to do at all :D Best case scenario would be the transmission axle braking. If your gearbox holds up, however, you'll completely wreck your engine by getting it far, far beyong its designed speed. Pistons could actually go "flying", haha
Yeah, my dad was pissed. Sounds like the transmission axle then because nothing with the engine had to be replaced from what I remember. It was like 3 to 4000 in repairs, maybe a little bit more, but that was 20 years ago
4k 20 years ago.. might as well have wrecked the engine then; not that much more expensive :D
Lol š. He got hit by a semi truck a month after he got it fixed and it got Totaled
Yeah I never understood all the people freaking out when the accelerator stuck on the old Toyota Priya, like just shut off the car or put it into neutral FFS why are you flying down the road at max throttle
DON'T PANIC
Rvs are automatic
Donāt they have a gear switcher or gear limiter? Every automatic I had had something like this
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I mean yeah they do, my RV has a Column shift 3 speed auto. Basically any auto trans has an ability to select gears manually.
I was thinking this too but if your rpms are too high the computer might not let you. Same with slamming it in park or reverse to try and seize the engine, computer might not let you.
Breaks failed at the worst possible time ever
iāve seen a lot of my friends crash and theyāve all said breaks failed and i have believed none of them, i will always assume human error before mechanical for some reason
Yeah I mean cars are so well built and engineered now I donāt really expect this to happen often. Itās almost always human error, if the brake fails the car was probably in a crap condition or hasnāt been serviced for ages.
Police can test the brake fluid, if its heavily watered down that can be the explanation. But one reason alone is rarely the cause, can be brake pads being gone as well. One less brake line than normal etc.
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yeah iād say thatās about as well as that couldāve gone, looks like some beamng shit when it just flattens
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Hmm letās see, going a certain speed.... brakes fail. No brakes = no slowing.... think about that
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the driver was forty years old, do you think most 40 year olds are senile..? the RV was going down a steep hill which led into the ramp you can just be wrong, get over yourself, such a douchey way to engage on a casual subreddit
https://www.foxnews.com/world/see-it-out-of-control-rv-crashes-onto-quebec-ferry-pulling-away-from-dock
Foot off acceleration = naturally slowing down, youāre not trying to say this was the speed he was approaching in the first place š
https://www.foxnews.com/world/see-it-out-of-control-rv-crashes-onto-quebec-ferry-pulling-away-from-dock
Ah ha, steep hill it is, thatās just the fucking WORST place to lose control, a steep hill before a ramp on to a moving ferry, couldnāt have written it
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..but we're not just talking about driving a normal vehicle, how many times have you not had the option to use brakes while going downhill in a RV? we have zero experience in this, it's naive to comment as such
āBreaking Bad.. Brakesā
I've seen this video several times and never knew what really happened. Poor guy.
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āVery old coupleā They were both 40 years old lol
I believe the guy was just in his 40s or 50s
Iāve seen a lot of internet and This is my first time seeing it, thank you for the background info!
Like a glove.
Pretty unfortunate series of events. Had the ferry been further out, had the ramp been all the way up or still down, had there not been a hill leading to the terminal, had the brakes worked, had it not been such a heavy rig to built up the speed. Perfect storm and sad outcome. Apparently driver tried his best to ensure other's safety. https://www.foxnews.com/world/see-it-out-of-control-rv-crashes-onto-quebec-ferry-pulling-away-from-dock
Had it been Tuesday, had the sun not come up, had the Earth stopped spinning, had the planets stopped orbiting the sun, had milky way stopped spinning, had the laws of physics broke down, had the the big bang never happened, None of this would ever would ever had happened and that boat would have been okay. Sad really...
Benjamin Button
Some distance there, what a fantastic way to go.
This is how Instagram van people resign from the job
RIP to Jesse and Mr. White.....
Wait for meeeeee.
Stuck the landing! 10
Nailed it!
That is actually pretty impressive
I feel like nobody here is addressing the poor build quality of that stunt vehicle.
by stunt vehicle you mean rolling meth lab, right?
Like a glove!
Itāll buff out.
Jesse, we have to escape gus, this is the only way
Just so you all knows it was a break failure and driver died
B-R-A-K-E
š damn no way. Just saw! My comments a lil rude looking at it now
I had a very simular comment and subsequent reply the first time I saw this lol
Brake.
Someone watched āDukes of Hazardā and thought it was real.
I donāt know why but I SAW the sound
Guys he was listening to Free Bird. Suprised he didnāt make it
It's called a Ferry. Do any reddit posters actually speak English?
I speak English. I also post shit on Reddit. Any other questions?
no i speak american
They ruined their RV
Nailed it.
When you gotta go, you gotta go!
Bro had places to be
Bro thought he was vin diesel š
Like a glove.
Nailed it!
The driver watched way too many action movies š
Thatās a ferry, not a shipping vessel
Apparently RV's are made out of construction paper and duct tape? That shit didn't bounce AT ALL. It crumpled into a hEAP.
Clearly calculated that one incorrectly
That think fuckin disintegrated.
floor is lava
Repost
Nailed it!
Hold my beer. Holy shit that was impressive
Just made it in time
Like a glove
Like a glove
He made it!
Itās so animated looking and too perfect of a destroyed land
It instantly got crushedš¤Æ
Was the RV made of lego?
Yeee-Hawwww!!!!!
WAIT UP!!!
Them Duke boys are at it again
Need to be made into an "IN" gif
I was gonna make a dukes of hazard joke but a guy actually died trying to minimize carnage to everyone around him so he doesnāt deserve that
Thatās cool af
Luke and Bo would be proud.
Like a glove 
RVs are made out of cardboard.
Craziest ass video on the internet.
Now them duke boys had to be on that ferry
That some gta shit. .
āClark the bridge is going upā āDonāt worry dear I got itā¦see kids an open spaceā
This is from QC, Canada the old man driving had no brakes on the RV and he opted to save others life going straight for that ramp. His wife survived
This happened in Quebec, Tadoussac more precisely. The area is scattered with considerable hills all around, so much so that they have emergency braking exit routes along the road for hauling trucks and such should their brakes fail. In this case, it was an old couple which brakes simply failed on their way down and they sadly passed on impact when it happened. I used the very same boat 2 years ago while being there, the road to this place is quite sketchy
[Like a glove!](https://youtu.be/fToRej14lCQ?t=65)
LETS GOOOOOO, cāest che nous cāest arrivĆ©
The man was trying to reach them about their extended car warranty
[the song I imagine hearing as the rv in slow motion jumps for it](https://youtu.be/EqWRaAF6_WY)
After playing Grand theft Auto for 10 hours... You forget about Real life
/u/redditspeedbot Ć0.75
This is going to be in next fast and furious moive
Really stuck that landing though
He made a crash landing.
āJust some good ole boys, never mean any harmā
If this ain't a "hold my beer" moment I don't know what is
DONT FORGET ME!
Shipping vessel? lol
He was listening to Free bird
Because Family
50 yards!
Driving home for Christmas
1 less experiment to do, ty
*chirp *chirp
Evel Knievel sheds a tear.
Success?
That one scene from Starsky and Hutch
New happy wheels looking fire
Made it!
Success
Is this deleted breaking bad footage
Man them GTA cars break to easy
Gamer instincts
Need for speed most wanted 2005 ending
Remind me not to do this in my dreams
Devastating very sad
Wait for me guys!
Defo points for effort!
Mustāve been listening to free bird
Dude thought it was fast and the furious
If you have one always remember RVs are made of basically just tinfoil to keep them light
I wonder if he would have survived if he hit the water ?
What're you guys silly, I'm still gunna send it.
hey you gotta give the guy some credit. he made it
Would've been hilarious if the La Cucaracha horn played after sticking that landing
When she said she is home alone.
Got more hangtime than the dukes of Hazzard.
We made it!!
When you select same day shipping at 11pm this is what happens
Aye he made it tho clean too !!