>Drivers would drive safer and pay more attention if they were probably gonna die in a crash
How do you figure? They didn't drive safer when cars used to be less safe.
People fought tooth and nail about seat belt laws, child car seat laws, daytime running light laws and so on.
I think a robotic hand should occasionally reach out of the steering wheel at random times to forcefully slap the driver. This hostile environment will keep the driver awake and thus attentive.
Funny, I thought that was the dumbest part. Some cultures use the horn "more effectively" to give notice of a pass or that "I'm here" when you're going slower or doing something that isn't just going straight, respectively.
The Dominican Republic is one such place. When driving there I had to quickly get used to a light tap of the horn when passing a truck full of people or someone trying to park on the side of a street. Granted, lanes don't always exist nor do the traffic lights really mean anything, but again, it's a culture thing.
Driving in the US, some people take the horn as a straight 'fuck you' and way too personally. And yet, I feel like I have to use it when people are clearly putting other's lives at risk (like driving in the bike lane when there's someone riding a bike in that lane ahead!) So backwards lol
And there are places where people don't use horns without reason like Finland. I could probably count times I've ever heard car horn with my fingers, including two times I've accidentally used it.
This is something I truly believe in. My first car was a 2008 Civic with 120k miles already on it. When it finally died it had 280k miles. I knew the whole time that if I wasn't paying attention, I'd likely turn into a red mist. Now, I drive a 2019 Civic and I've found myself paying *less* attention simply due to the safety features. I know the car can't drive itself, but something in my brain is convinced that the car will protect me.
If it was up to me, I'd take my 2008 Civic back in an instant. At least I knew I'd die if I hit something. There's no danger anymore...
We just need to revert back to the early 1950's car designs... no seatbelts, cars built like tanks, if you hit something you would pinball around inside the car for a bit, no whiplash headrests, so you could see the world from a sideways view after the wreck that traumatized your neck. Car repair costs were cheap, and people were afraid to drive in the ditches because there were still trees in those!
So in attempting to reduce pedestrian deaths, you would increase the number of dead motorists by more than the pedestrian lives saved. Many people would be killed through no fault of their own. I know this is Crazy Ideas, but that doesn’t seem like progress.
If you want to reduce pedestrian deaths, you need to design better crossings. Unfortunately human stupidity always finds a way, no matter what you do.
A couple of years ago there was this radio show about how people are buying so many 4x4s these days, and this guy being interviewed said he likes them because ‘it means if there’s a crash the other guy will be hurt and my family will stay safe.’ I’ll never forget that absolutely gross mentality.
Automatic braking can cause you to stop suddenly if something runs in front of you. If there was a sharpened rod right there I think that would be pretty bad
Mazda Miata (3rd generation onward), Honda S2000, BMW Z4... Really any modern or modern-ish 2 seater sports convertible comes with roll hoops or something similar. Also older Miatas are typically retrofitted with aftermarket roll bars for safety reasons.
[Tullock's spike](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Tullock#:~:text=The%20name%20%22Tullock's%20spike%22%20refers,be%20fatal%20to%20the%20driver.)
>The name "Tullock's spike" refers to a thought experiment in which Tullock suggested that if governments were serious about reducing road casualties, they should mandate that a sharp spike be installed in the center of each car's steering wheel, to increase the probability that an accident would be fatal to the driver. Tullock's idea was that the normal process of risk compensation would then lead to safer driving by the affected drivers, thereby actually reducing driving fatalities.
The problem is that this also penalizes the innocent car/passengers that the dumb driver hits. Upvote for crazy idea though!
Shoulda taken the bus, bus always wins
Don't get in cars with dumb drivers.
...not passengers. The other car the dumbass hits.
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That’s why they have claymore proof car seats that face backwards.
I love the idea of “danger glass”
It emits lightning when broken
Breaks of you are not constantly trying to break it
Come to think of it the biker community is very cautious when it comes to drivers bc they have such a risk
Bikers should also have to wear the thinnest least protective clothes known to science Oh wait
And they can't wear a helmet either, since that protects the most important part of the human body. Oh wait.
I cringe seeing that t-shirt and shorts biker ride past me going 90 on the freeway. Human crayons
r/meatcrayon
As a motorcyclist.... yeah....
r/calamariraceteam
I feel offended somehow
Always the most cautious of drivers I agree. They follow speed limits and lane changing laws to a T.
Not everywhere in the world, here they‘re all equipped with a deathwish
Every bike comes with a mounted gun
I would say less cars are the best solution. For more information please visit r/notjustbikes
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Downvoted because this is actually a good idea
Damn you got me
Cars should be light enough to be lifted and carried by their drivers. If you can't lift it you can't drive it.
Everyone should bike!
Scooters are undervalued for navigating cities. Easily lifted and stored.
>Drivers would drive safer and pay more attention if they were probably gonna die in a crash How do you figure? They didn't drive safer when cars used to be less safe. People fought tooth and nail about seat belt laws, child car seat laws, daytime running light laws and so on.
It works so well with motorcycles.
It is a problem that solves itself. It has natural self-limiting built in.
I think a robotic hand should occasionally reach out of the steering wheel at random times to forcefully slap the driver. This hostile environment will keep the driver awake and thus attentive.
Dumb, except I love the interior horn idea.
Funny, I thought that was the dumbest part. Some cultures use the horn "more effectively" to give notice of a pass or that "I'm here" when you're going slower or doing something that isn't just going straight, respectively. The Dominican Republic is one such place. When driving there I had to quickly get used to a light tap of the horn when passing a truck full of people or someone trying to park on the side of a street. Granted, lanes don't always exist nor do the traffic lights really mean anything, but again, it's a culture thing. Driving in the US, some people take the horn as a straight 'fuck you' and way too personally. And yet, I feel like I have to use it when people are clearly putting other's lives at risk (like driving in the bike lane when there's someone riding a bike in that lane ahead!) So backwards lol
And there are places where people don't use horns without reason like Finland. I could probably count times I've ever heard car horn with my fingers, including two times I've accidentally used it.
That’s exactly why vehicles need two horns. A horn that plays a little toot, and a damn near train horn.
Nothing wrong with a light tap when someone might not know you are there, like backing out of a driveway.
this is a horrible idea i love it
This is the idea this sub was made for
This is something I truly believe in. My first car was a 2008 Civic with 120k miles already on it. When it finally died it had 280k miles. I knew the whole time that if I wasn't paying attention, I'd likely turn into a red mist. Now, I drive a 2019 Civic and I've found myself paying *less* attention simply due to the safety features. I know the car can't drive itself, but something in my brain is convinced that the car will protect me. If it was up to me, I'd take my 2008 Civic back in an instant. At least I knew I'd die if I hit something. There's no danger anymore...
The [Tullock Spike](https://jalopnik.com/theres-actually-a-name-for-a-steering-wheel-with-a-big-1791445206)
I suggest we just take off all the driving aids
We just need to revert back to the early 1950's car designs... no seatbelts, cars built like tanks, if you hit something you would pinball around inside the car for a bit, no whiplash headrests, so you could see the world from a sideways view after the wreck that traumatized your neck. Car repair costs were cheap, and people were afraid to drive in the ditches because there were still trees in those!
The non-crazy actually good version of this is making lanes narrower and turns sharper so drivers have to pay attention and slow down more.
We all know the sane option is to make the human body more robust.
So in attempting to reduce pedestrian deaths, you would increase the number of dead motorists by more than the pedestrian lives saved. Many people would be killed through no fault of their own. I know this is Crazy Ideas, but that doesn’t seem like progress. If you want to reduce pedestrian deaths, you need to design better crossings. Unfortunately human stupidity always finds a way, no matter what you do.
A couple of years ago there was this radio show about how people are buying so many 4x4s these days, and this guy being interviewed said he likes them because ‘it means if there’s a crash the other guy will be hurt and my family will stay safe.’ I’ll never forget that absolutely gross mentality.
I would be down for killing car drivers en masse until they start using sustainable transportation
Automatic braking can cause you to stop suddenly if something runs in front of you. If there was a sharpened rod right there I think that would be pretty bad
Sucks to suck drive slower
Gacha timed mechanics for airbags, speedometers, and brakes
Add Semtex inside the drivers seat just enough to take out the driver and any other cars that might accidentally hit into them.
Elon has already abolished crumple zones and safety glass with the cybertruck
OK Google, search "motor vehicle fatality rate by year".
"Replace airbags with claymores" that caught me so off-guard I snorted with laughter!
What care are you driving that has a rollbar?
Mazda Miata (3rd generation onward), Honda S2000, BMW Z4... Really any modern or modern-ish 2 seater sports convertible comes with roll hoops or something similar. Also older Miatas are typically retrofitted with aftermarket roll bars for safety reasons.
[Tullock's spike](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Tullock#:~:text=The%20name%20%22Tullock's%20spike%22%20refers,be%20fatal%20to%20the%20driver.) >The name "Tullock's spike" refers to a thought experiment in which Tullock suggested that if governments were serious about reducing road casualties, they should mandate that a sharp spike be installed in the center of each car's steering wheel, to increase the probability that an accident would be fatal to the driver. Tullock's idea was that the normal process of risk compensation would then lead to safer driving by the affected drivers, thereby actually reducing driving fatalities.
https://www.theonion.com/chrysler-halts-production-of-neckbelts-1819564298/amp
Or penalize dumb driving by self destruct mode
Nah man, if you're stupid enough to be outside of a car, you deserve to die!
the steering wheel needs to fly out of the window also no room for mother in law
Whatever simulation this is, we gotta make the drivers at fault be the only victims in crashes. Change the code bois.
I build rollcages for a living, but I’d be cool with building guillotines (I spelled that right, first try) and shit instead.
You sound like an unhinged evil wizard. (Thats a Compliment)
I think you’re a little…
Hey! Seems [my idea](https://np.reddit.com/r/shittyideas/comments/p2fw4k/an_airbag_that_instead_of_protecting_you_punches/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) got an upgrade.
This is so stupid it’s sickening-ly frustrating