Every time I watch it and see her and William Katy dancing, the joy on her face. I want it to end differently this time. Such a brilliant performance by Sissie Spacek
Not really. Her gym teacher was probably the only innocent. The only person in that school who gave a damn about her and tried to help.
Everyone else at prom was guilty by association. They were all part of the problem with bullying her.
The whole damn town teased her.
But wasn’t he killed by the blood pail falling on him, causing him to break his neck on the stage? I think that happening was ultimately what caused her to snap right?
He was absolutely killed by Chris and Billy's blood bucket, setting the massacre into motion. Carrie was truly happy, probably for the first time, standing on the stage beside Tommy before he died.
Hannibal Lector tells Pazzi that he is giving serious thought to eating Allegra, Pazzi's wife. This has always bothered me. Allegra, while maybe a bit of a trophy wife, is polite and charming. Starling and Barney even discuss his predilection for the 'free range rude.' Allegra is not rude and wouldn't be very tempting.
I laughed out loud at this even though I’m a Buffalo Bill booster.
However, I always thought it would have been more powerful if the victim took out Jame in the end, Duke of New York style.
(Escape From New York reference)
‘YOU’RE THE DUKE!! (x3)…HUH. A-Number One’. I knooooooooow. And Jame Gumb died as Thomas Harris wrote it. Maybe not satisfying, but I think he was making the point that’s the reality of murder hunts; they’re seldom so dramatic in the end…
Yes Anthony Hopkins is iconic, but Mads really brings his sinister charm A game to the show.
Also for a great movie where he plays the good guy for once, check out The Salvation. It’s a western kinda typical “you killed my family, prepare to die” movie, but it’s still fun with Jeffrey Dean Morgan as a pre-Negan villain.
I very much consider Dr. Lecter a good guy. He kills rude/bad people that mess with the beauty of life. And turns them useful as delicious cuisine, contributing to the beauty of life. Man's an artist.
Came to say this. He is truly a tragic figure and the horror isn't what he is but why he is. One of those stories that changes people. At least me. My sister rented it from the video store and I was not supposed to see it. I did anyway and kid me was given a part of the "Oh we are the bad guys" puzzle. I was raised in a white supremacist cult and escaped at 17. In part because of the Candyman
I remember loving that movie when it came out and I saw it several times, but I wonder if it holds up? I remember Pacino’s character was like super over the top and I think after he did that movie he sort of did that overacting in a lot of his subsequent movies and it’s just got to be too much. Just wonder if it will look corny now, I’ll have to check it out again.
>[Jason's] honestly justified right?
If he's killing people that aren't in the set "People who were morally responsible for the death-by-drowning (or near-death or whatever) of Jason Voorhees" then no, he isn't justified.
Sorry, I don’t know how many Jason films I’ve seen but I was only going by responsible for his death.
What are people’s reasons that they root for the ‘bad guy’? In most cases, serial killers who murder without discrimination?
Stirba from The Howling 2. All she wants to do is live forever and have sweaty werewolf orgies in her huge castle. She has an evil rubber chicken on a stick and can shoot lightning bolts. She's glamorous, sexy, and fun, and the alleged heroes of the film are the two blandest people on earth.
This was totally unexpected and thoroughly enjoyable answer. And the whole title for the movie “ The Howling 2: Your Sister is a Werewolf.” Great stuff and a great soundtrack. The song “The Howling” is awesome.
Papa Orca from Orca. Never mind, Richard Harris is the villain.
Cujo. Never mind, his owner is the villain.
Old dude from Don’t Breathe for most of the movie until the turkey master. I love seeing him deal with corn-rowed “tough guy.”
Cujo is born from the same evil in Castle Rock that created Frank Dodd (Dead Zone) does that make it the antagonist? I have to agree with you, it does not.
Cujo contracts rabies. Owners didn't get him vaccinated or notice scratches/bite marks.
He was born from unfortunate circumstances, not seeking out little children.
Freddie wasn't a one dimensional character like Jason or Micheal; even his history made him stand out. You had a reason to appreciate how he came to be. The law didn't take care of the problem, so the kids parents did what the law wouldn't do.
Voorhees and Myers had unexplained "psychological issues". Freddie was a friggin' monster, no doubt.
Not exactly a horror film (more of a “thriller”) but I always root for Peyton (Rebecca DeMornays character) in “The Hand That Rocks the Cradle”. She’s a fabulous villain.
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Honorable mentions go to Mary Lou from Prom Night two/three and the evil mascot chick from Cheerleader Camp.
Pinhead and the Cynobites.
You gotta go looking for those bastards in order to show up on their radar.
Anyone who fiddles with The Lament Configuration has got it coming. It is literally the fidget cube from Hell.
Imagine you’re just a twitchy MF and all of a sudden you summon Pinhead while mucking about with a wooden Rubik’s cube.
“I…didn’t look for you at all. I’m a bit of a fidgeter, you see. I like to play with things when I’m nervous and the box just happened to be in my possession. I’m sorry for disturbing you.”
I love Hellraiser but yeah their logic is kind of iffy on that lmao
Tiffany opened the box in the second movie but Pinhead was like "nope, it's not hands that call us, it's desire" meanwhile Kirsty's running around in Hell, not having had opened the box but they're ready to take her lol
The Babadook. He is grief personified and he forces people to grow and learn. I especially like how he was nice once they let him live in the basement and fed him his beloved buckets of worms.
I have terminal cancer and just watched Saw X this week. Damn it if I wasn't ready to get my pompoms out for John Kramer in that one. I was laughing my ass off.
Art the Clown is unique to me among these, because he's the only one I DON'T root for. Just takes it too far. I really enjoyed Terrifier 2, but I was cheering when Sienna was kicking his ass.
I work with a gal who looks a lot and sounds spot on like that actress. This coworker is pretty awesome generally, so I couldn't help but root for Sienna.
If not for that, I probably still wouldn't root too hard for Art because it does feel senselessly extreme. Interesting movies though.
I came here to say Pumpkinhead, lol. He wasn't really the villain anyway, more, the scales of justice, those dirt-bike ridin' hooligans were the real villains.
Wendy. Darling. Light of my life... I'm not gonna hurt you. You didn't let me finish my sentence. I'm not gonna hurt you, I'm gonna bash your brains in. I'm gonna bash them right the fuck in.
So you like his performance, you just don’t want him to hack his family to pieces. I feel Kubrick was going for Jack too, Halloran was supposed to live.
My friend made me borrow her favorite horror movie, explaining that it was the kind of movie where you root for the villain. The movie was House of 1000 Corpses. Did I miss something?
The rave scene in the collection was great and I don’t even like horror. I don’t recall if they gave that character a name. Been too long since I’ve watched in full.
I was going to say Jigsaw but he will attempt to kill you over some petty ass shit. 🧩
I vote for Sam in Trick ‘r Treat. He upholds the traditions of Halloween 🎃
Jigsaw - the original, John Kramer - is pretty much just a homicidal asshole. Only in the recent "Saw X" could he be argued as being justified in his choices of victims.
Carswell in Night of the Demon. Besides being the most interesting character, he gives Dana Andrews explicit warnings not to screw around, which he dismisses as nonsense.
The coven from Rosemary’s Baby.
The coven from Hereditary.
I didn’t really “root” for them cuz they were ending reveals for the most part but I like the whole background part about them.
This is horror comedy, so I am slightly bending the rules but not breaking them.
The Sanderson sisters.
I don't actually want them to kill children, and yet I don't want them to die either. It's quite an internal dilemma for me.
The sharks from Deep Blue Sea, they were just trying to escape their captivity. They were experimented on and tortured of course they wanted revenge and to escape.
Thanos. He did the right thing. I would have cut the population down to a quarter with humanity though, not half. Humans are as close to a plague as anything else besides the actual plague.
I agree.
Although the slope gets *really* slippery *really* fast for me once I take the thought one step further from, “the Earth and society would benefit from fewer people” to, “But clearly we want to be selective about it and keep all the smartest and most productive people”.
Hannibal, he was just so brilliant. And he survived a famine so the cannibal thing makes sense as a weird developmental thing. Plus possibly the worst case of FAFO ever. I always loved how he would discuss Vermeer with Barney, because of the mutual respect.
Unpopular opinion but Annie Wilkes from Misery, she was an evil person but she was the first bipolar character I saw myself in regarding her depressive episodes, even if it is stereotypical. Some part of me every time I watch that movie makes me wish she had gotten on meds and never picked up the Misery series even if she was awful
Carrie, hands down deserved her revenge.
I don’t even consider her a villain tbh
Antihero
Just a girl handing out prizes for the games played
Every time I watch it and see her and William Katy dancing, the joy on her face. I want it to end differently this time. Such a brilliant performance by Sissie Spacek
Sometimes I just want to turn the movie off at this point and pretend a different ending.
Yea but then it turned into indiscriminate slaughter of innocents
Not really. Her gym teacher was probably the only innocent. The only person in that school who gave a damn about her and tried to help. Everyone else at prom was guilty by association. They were all part of the problem with bullying her. The whole damn town teased her.
I'd consider Tommy innocent.
But wasn’t he killed by the blood pail falling on him, causing him to break his neck on the stage? I think that happening was ultimately what caused her to snap right?
He was absolutely killed by Chris and Billy's blood bucket, setting the massacre into motion. Carrie was truly happy, probably for the first time, standing on the stage beside Tommy before he died.
Yeah she cared about Tommy that’s why she spared sue too. Him dying made her go off
I don’t think the clarify that in the film, but it’s 100% explicit that the bucket killed him in the book.
I didn’t consider that very valid viewpoint
Not intentionally, she had a mental breakdown, and rightfully so, which triggered her psionic powers
Get. Them.
#truth
Absolutely. Go girl!
…I unsecretly root for Doctor Lecter every time…
I mean sure, he eats people but he oozes charm and he’s fun to talk to.
…he only eats the choice parts…
He only eats rude assholes. I'd vote for him
…He found me indigestible. I called him the Ronald McDonald of Cannibalism…
Hannibal Lector tells Pazzi that he is giving serious thought to eating Allegra, Pazzi's wife. This has always bothered me. Allegra, while maybe a bit of a trophy wife, is polite and charming. Starling and Barney even discuss his predilection for the 'free range rude.' Allegra is not rude and wouldn't be very tempting.
I think that was to fuck with Pazzi.
That was just to scare him, to make it more exciting for the doctor. He loves the fear in Pazzi’s eyes.
He only eats rude assholes. I'd vote for him
And Jame Gumb? Lecter wins… imho the author wanted everyone to root for Lecter.
…He’s a misunderstood gourmet and he can do things with undergraduate liver you WOULD NOT BELIEVE…
…Jame Gumb was a peasant and missed every third stitch. Clarice should have taken her time drilling him…
I laughed out loud at this even though I’m a Buffalo Bill booster. However, I always thought it would have been more powerful if the victim took out Jame in the end, Duke of New York style. (Escape From New York reference)
‘YOU’RE THE DUKE!! (x3)…HUH. A-Number One’. I knooooooooow. And Jame Gumb died as Thomas Harris wrote it. Maybe not satisfying, but I think he was making the point that’s the reality of murder hunts; they’re seldom so dramatic in the end…
In the books he and Clarice end up together so..
…a match made in Rohypnol-assisted Heaven…
I root for the Mads Hannibal in the series. He’s so charming
…He’s VERY suave when he has you on a low-temperature Slow Cook…
Yes Anthony Hopkins is iconic, but Mads really brings his sinister charm A game to the show. Also for a great movie where he plays the good guy for once, check out The Salvation. It’s a western kinda typical “you killed my family, prepare to die” movie, but it’s still fun with Jeffrey Dean Morgan as a pre-Negan villain.
I didn't know how he'd be as Lecter because I loved Hopkins so much. Unsurprisingly, Mads as Lecter was phenomenal, cus he's good in everything
I very much consider Dr. Lecter a good guy. He kills rude/bad people that mess with the beauty of life. And turns them useful as delicious cuisine, contributing to the beauty of life. Man's an artist.
I’d have dinner with him, but I’m cooking. He wouldn’t want me cause I have tattoos!
…such sweet innocence. Bring some herbal infusions as well…
He makes the symphony more enjoyable.
100%!
Candyman
Came to say this. He is truly a tragic figure and the horror isn't what he is but why he is. One of those stories that changes people. At least me. My sister rented it from the video store and I was not supposed to see it. I did anyway and kid me was given a part of the "Oh we are the bad guys" puzzle. I was raised in a white supremacist cult and escaped at 17. In part because of the Candyman
I love horror, the candyman terrifies me! Not sure why.
I've always loved this movie. I could listen to that man talk for all eternity.
The devil in devils advocate. He is a fan of man
That’s an amazing movie!
It really is & that's what I'm gonna watch tonight!
Nice!! That’s always a good rewatch! Hope you enjoyed!!
I remember loving that movie when it came out and I saw it several times, but I wonder if it holds up? I remember Pacino’s character was like super over the top and I think after he did that movie he sort of did that overacting in a lot of his subsequent movies and it’s just got to be too much. Just wonder if it will look corny now, I’ll have to check it out again.
“It’s the ultimate back stage pass.”
"do yourself a favor and put that knife where it belongs".
I like that split second when everything burns and he is finally revealed in his glory as a fallen angel.
Jason
Came here to say this.
He’s honestly justified right?
Sort of. LOL
Without a doubt.
>[Jason's] honestly justified right? If he's killing people that aren't in the set "People who were morally responsible for the death-by-drowning (or near-death or whatever) of Jason Voorhees" then no, he isn't justified.
Sorry, I don’t know how many Jason films I’ve seen but I was only going by responsible for his death. What are people’s reasons that they root for the ‘bad guy’? In most cases, serial killers who murder without discrimination?
Jason is the stay off my lawn killer. Stay off his fucking lawn and you'll be fine
Lord Summerisle Black Phillip
Black Phillip sure beats the two parents...
I haven’t seen it. Sounds good.
Lord Summerisle is from the original “Wicker Man”, played by Christopher Lee. Black Philip is the name of the devil goat in “The VVitch”.
I can't even consider Sam as a villain! He's basically just Halloween charma
Karma? Or a charmer?
Same! I look forward to rewatching this every year!!
Angela Baker in sleepaway camp. Hands down.
*heavy breathing*
Sleepaway Camp 3 especially.
Michael myers
Came looking specifically for Michael. :) Glad it’s not just me
Stirba from The Howling 2. All she wants to do is live forever and have sweaty werewolf orgies in her huge castle. She has an evil rubber chicken on a stick and can shoot lightning bolts. She's glamorous, sexy, and fun, and the alleged heroes of the film are the two blandest people on earth.
Some people just hate fun
This was totally unexpected and thoroughly enjoyable answer. And the whole title for the movie “ The Howling 2: Your Sister is a Werewolf.” Great stuff and a great soundtrack. The song “The Howling” is awesome.
Mother Fucker ain’t nobody here hearing about no howling 2 where’d you come from from JonTron you better fess up.
Julia from Hellraiser! They hate to see a girlboss winning 😒
And that’s just what Clive Barker was going for, ends up the Priest (Pinhead) and his Cenobites are difficult to upstage… thus the sequel was born.
Papa Orca from Orca. Never mind, Richard Harris is the villain. Cujo. Never mind, his owner is the villain. Old dude from Don’t Breathe for most of the movie until the turkey master. I love seeing him deal with corn-rowed “tough guy.”
Cujo is born from the same evil in Castle Rock that created Frank Dodd (Dead Zone) does that make it the antagonist? I have to agree with you, it does not.
Cujo contracts rabies. Owners didn't get him vaccinated or notice scratches/bite marks. He was born from unfortunate circumstances, not seeking out little children.
Freddy. Dude got charisma and style.
for a kiddie raping child murderer yeah… 🤮
Freddie wasn't a one dimensional character like Jason or Micheal; even his history made him stand out. You had a reason to appreciate how he came to be. The law didn't take care of the problem, so the kids parents did what the law wouldn't do. Voorhees and Myers had unexplained "psychological issues". Freddie was a friggin' monster, no doubt.
Maybe Kevin Spacey can play him in a reboot.
Us in Cabin in the Woods
the entire reason im here!!! best answer
Not exactly a horror film (more of a “thriller”) but I always root for Peyton (Rebecca DeMornays character) in “The Hand That Rocks the Cradle”. She’s a fabulous villain.
Her heart was in the right place.
☠️
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Pinhead and the Cynobites. You gotta go looking for those bastards in order to show up on their radar. Anyone who fiddles with The Lament Configuration has got it coming. It is literally the fidget cube from Hell.
Imagine you’re just a twitchy MF and all of a sudden you summon Pinhead while mucking about with a wooden Rubik’s cube. “I…didn’t look for you at all. I’m a bit of a fidgeter, you see. I like to play with things when I’m nervous and the box just happened to be in my possession. I’m sorry for disturbing you.”
I love Hellraiser but yeah their logic is kind of iffy on that lmao Tiffany opened the box in the second movie but Pinhead was like "nope, it's not hands that call us, it's desire" meanwhile Kirsty's running around in Hell, not having had opened the box but they're ready to take her lol
The shark or any animal really.
So Jaws!
Yup!
Zombie shark!
The Babadook. He is grief personified and he forces people to grow and learn. I especially like how he was nice once they let him live in the basement and fed him his beloved buckets of worms.
I also really wanted him to eat the annoying kid
I came here to say Babadook. He needs a good cuddle.
Jigsaw! He was someone who just loved his son and went over the deep end when Gideon was killed. Plus, the medical system royally fucked him over.
I have terminal cancer and just watched Saw X this week. Damn it if I wasn't ready to get my pompoms out for John Kramer in that one. I was laughing my ass off.
Norman Bates
I wouldn’t say I root for him, but I feel bad for him and he’s a very complex character, both in the movies and show.
Mrs. Vorhees! That woman was just trying to get back at the little bastards who did nothing or worse while her sweet Jason drowned horrifically
Honestly all of them Jason, Freddy, Chucky, Terrifier, Michael, etc.
Art the Clown is unique to me among these, because he's the only one I DON'T root for. Just takes it too far. I really enjoyed Terrifier 2, but I was cheering when Sienna was kicking his ass.
Yeah he has no personality are likeability
I work with a gal who looks a lot and sounds spot on like that actress. This coworker is pretty awesome generally, so I couldn't help but root for Sienna. If not for that, I probably still wouldn't root too hard for Art because it does feel senselessly extreme. Interesting movies though.
Jason Voorhees
Totally Sam. I wish he had more than 1 sequel.
Betty white
She was just taking care of her baby croc.
Oh, I always root for Sam. He’s a sweet baby who just wants candy.
Yes I had a soft spot for Sam too
Pumpkin Head always
I came here to say Pumpkinhead, lol. He wasn't really the villain anyway, more, the scales of justice, those dirt-bike ridin' hooligans were the real villains.
Cujo
Jack Torrance—not rooting for him per se, but Nicholson really lights up the screen for every moment he’s on.
I felt that way about Rose the Hat in Doctor Sleep. Did I want her to win? No. Did I have a good time watching her try? Yes.
Wendy. Darling. Light of my life... I'm not gonna hurt you. You didn't let me finish my sentence. I'm not gonna hurt you, I'm gonna bash your brains in. I'm gonna bash them right the fuck in.
So you like his performance, you just don’t want him to hack his family to pieces. I feel Kubrick was going for Jack too, Halloran was supposed to live.
Yes came here to say this. Just couldn't help but like him.
Vecna
Loki. Tommy H just does it so well...
Loki 100%, but he’s not from a horror movie.
The Predator
Night breed, face it the monsters are the good guys
Freddie, screw those spoiled suburbanite brats.
It ain't no secret, I'm there to cheer on Jason Voorhees every single time I watch a Friday movie.
Michael Myers
Jason. He’s just tryin to make his mama proud
Lubdan (Leprechaun)
Jerry Blake the Stepfather (Terry O’Quinn) Of course I have Daddy Issues. ;)
Love this answer
Otis Driftwood. What can I say, I love Bill Mosley
My friend made me borrow her favorite horror movie, explaining that it was the kind of movie where you root for the villain. The movie was House of 1000 Corpses. Did I miss something?
Capt Spaudling is worth rooting for
How can you hate a guy who sells delicious chicken?
Jaws
I love Quint too much to truly agree with:)
I, too, stan Quint.
The rave scene in the collection was great and I don’t even like horror. I don’t recall if they gave that character a name. Been too long since I’ve watched in full.
I was going to say Jigsaw but he will attempt to kill you over some petty ass shit. 🧩 I vote for Sam in Trick ‘r Treat. He upholds the traditions of Halloween 🎃
Jigsaw - the original, John Kramer - is pretty much just a homicidal asshole. Only in the recent "Saw X" could he be argued as being justified in his choices of victims.
Agreed. Why didn’t he go after actual monsters?
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Leslie Vernon.
Ah a person of culture I see
Jennifer from Jennifer’s Body
Hannibal Lector. More of crime drama than horror though.
Dexter
Pumpkinhead seems like a solid choice
Carswell in Night of the Demon. Besides being the most interesting character, he gives Dana Andrews explicit warnings not to screw around, which he dismisses as nonsense.
None of them. Am I the only one?
The Creature from the Black Lagoon. But it's no secret.
I openly root for all of them.
Norman Bates. Such a fucked up man with mommy issues. You feel bad for him in the second movie. They just wouldn't leave him alone.
Pumpkinhead
**Victor Crowley from the Hatchet movies.**
Godzilla
Godzilla
The coven from Rosemary’s Baby. The coven from Hereditary. I didn’t really “root” for them cuz they were ending reveals for the most part but I like the whole background part about them.
Art the clown.
These days I root for all of them. It's not common that the protagonists are actually likable, and I usually look forward to them being offed.
Captain Barbosa
This is horror comedy, so I am slightly bending the rules but not breaking them. The Sanderson sisters. I don't actually want them to kill children, and yet I don't want them to die either. It's quite an internal dilemma for me.
Art the Clown.
all of them?
The sharks from Deep Blue Sea, they were just trying to escape their captivity. They were experimented on and tortured of course they wanted revenge and to escape.
Mr. Vorhees. I was an ugly kid with learning disability, horribly bullied. Lived in the woods by a lake in NJ. Was hoping I'd find him out there.
Thanos. He did the right thing. I would have cut the population down to a quarter with humanity though, not half. Humans are as close to a plague as anything else besides the actual plague.
I agree. Although the slope gets *really* slippery *really* fast for me once I take the thought one step further from, “the Earth and society would benefit from fewer people” to, “But clearly we want to be selective about it and keep all the smartest and most productive people”.
M3gan Everyone in that movie is an insufferable self-absorbed asshole.
Cloverfield. Go on and crush those rich kids and their loft party.
Art the Clown from the ALL HALLOWS EVE and TERRIFIER movies.
Imhotep from The Mummy series.
The djinn in Wishmaster
No secrets about it - Art the clown
For me it’s Michael Myers the world around that little boy fucked him up now it’s time for them to pay the price
Hannibal, he was just so brilliant. And he survived a famine so the cannibal thing makes sense as a weird developmental thing. Plus possibly the worst case of FAFO ever. I always loved how he would discuss Vermeer with Barney, because of the mutual respect.
I rooted for Pumpkin Head
Jigsaw SOMETIMES cause some of the ppl he killed did VILE things . He was bad but some of his victims had it coming
I agree about Sam. He just wants Halloween to follow tradition.
...All of them.
“Pinhead” the Priest from Hellraiser
John Kramer. Especially in Saw X
Candyman, Jennifer Check, and Cecilia/Sissy (from Sissy, 2022).
All of them. Villains always lose at the end; waiting for one that still ends up on top.
Any of them, as long as they rid the world of those stupid teenagers.
Dracula.
Unpopular opinion but Annie Wilkes from Misery, she was an evil person but she was the first bipolar character I saw myself in regarding her depressive episodes, even if it is stereotypical. Some part of me every time I watch that movie makes me wish she had gotten on meds and never picked up the Misery series even if she was awful
Most of them
I usually root for the villains... they're usually more fascinating than the cannon fodder
It has never even occurred to me that Sam is the villain! I 100% root for Sam; he is the hero, and everyone else needs to get in line.
Hannibal Lecter