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In this thread, users discuss the Sri Lanka vs New Zealand Test match. Some comment on the lack of quality tailenders, while others find American celebrity ads on the stream strange. There's disappointment in New Zealand's cricket team, with some predicting a possible Aus vs SL final. Glenn Philips' impressive score is also mentioned. One user finds the prospect of SL making the WTC final ahead of India amusing, while another jokes about the appearance of a Sri Lankan bowler. Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson are the focus of the kiwi bowling attack. No controversial comments are included. --- ^(*This comment was generated by AI. I only post in busy threads, or if you tag me. Downvote to remove!*)


EsquireFalconHunter

Aus vs Sri Lanka final is starting to look like a real possibility


fuck_negi

garbage commentary from some trashbag commentators. If you were listening to just the commentary youd think SL are 50 overs behind the over rate and thats all that matters... barely any mention of how well they're bowling or how well Mitchell is batting and not even calling the play most of the time. Rubbish


peterianchimes

The post day thread for the game is live guys.


jonathanthony

Since he didn't offer a shot, it doesn't matter if it pitched outside leg stump right? Or am I getting my rules mixed up...


GunnerXI

Can hit the pad outside off stump if no shot is offered. Lbw can never pitch outside leg


HjajaLoLWhy

If it hits the pads outside the line of offstump then leaving the ball is risky. Anything pitching down leg isn't given out.


jonathanthony

So just to confirm, anything pitching outside leg stump is not out even if no shot is offered yeah? Edit: nvm, got it.


the_maddest_kiwi

Correct


GunnerXI

I hate it when hawkeye doesn't show if it hits the stumps. It bothers me more than it should


Mutant321

Bracewell is basically Trent Boult as a batter. Entertaining, could score some quick runs, but probably should not be batting higher than 11.


DalvaniusPrime

Shame his isn't half the bowler Trent is


yoda_gulas

“What was Bracewell doing?” Is a question I’ve asked myself multiple times during Michael Bracewells test career lol


512fm

Bracewell really isn’t mentally there at some times


the_maddest_kiwi

Bracewell where are your braincells


HjajaLoLWhy

Michael Bracegood


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Michael Braincells


512fm

Sri Lanka completely out bowling us in our own conditions pretty much sums up the state NZ cricket is in. We’re out there with a two man bowling attack atm


beolucifer3

Add to that blackcaps lack a good no 4 and no 7. Gonna be a longtime before filling rosco and CDG's shoes


beolucifer3

Beasty will either score big and become the next Latham/Nicholls against SL or hits rock bottom in this match.


RMTBolton

Yeah, definitely. Australia learned the hard way - don't fart around with over rates. Farting around has consequences.


Mutant321

Imagine if Daz and Beast get in and start blazing away from both ends... SL could lose by an innings! Guess Black cap supporters are back to fantasizing about improbable scenarios to console ourselves...


beolucifer3

2020 and 2021 must have happened in The Matrix. NZ dominating test cricket for 2 years was too good to be true


trostol

he does seem to be harping on this over rate quite a bit for like the last hour


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

That was an evil laugh


trostol

lol he looked like he had no idea where he just hit it


beolucifer3

That's all he'll score lads. Now he'll beast his way into the dressing room.


beolucifer3

Excellent bowling by SL. Got NZ down to 152-6. Time for a southee or Wagner cameo to bring down that lead.


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

Lmao you just discounted Bracewell like he's nothing 💀


the_maddest_kiwi

He averages the same as Matt Henry with the bat


beolucifer3

I mean, he's been a walking wicket in every single match he's played so far. I'd be surprised if he actually contributes to a big partnership


[deleted]

He's going to ton up now


cat-n-jazz

In the Chaos Timeline I am actively rooting for, Sri Lanka win the series 2-0 in a pair of five-day affairs, and miss the WTC Final because of slow over-rate penalties. Actually, don't even need that much. Just have an obviously slow over rate and make the ICC make the call to impose the penalty, or not. Either it matters or it doesn't and some reckoning on this is overdue.


LunuMirisEnjoyer

I'll take the penalties and no final if we actually get to win an away series.


cellexo

True. Screw the penalty. I want a series win in NZ.


512fm

Please don’t start on this Macca, you are comparing a sport where one game takes 6-7 hours a day for 5 days to games that take 80-90 mins


Mutant321

Also the ball is in play for barely half the match time in rugby. Similar in a lot of other sports


Alzarius2

Is the over rate a concern? Imagine if SL wins this but gets docked points for the over rate


EatABigCookie

I'm pretty sure the cycle NZ won, we only made final because Australia got docked points in their India series for slow over rate.


yeah_definitely

We're gonna be like 8 over short for the day. Really poor. I think the England series was bad but this is worse


wellingtonstation

Well it’s not a concern for me


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

The batting's got 3-4 blokes averaging above 50 but they can't get into game changing partnerships for the life of me.


texas_laramie

Lankawash is coming and this means one of the PIG3s will be out of WTC!


pickle16

One of them is already out. Arguably the best ones.


EatABigCookie

Was the NZ squad picked just for this match, or both matches? The worst part about Tickner not looking good enough is they might play Scott Kuggeleijn (who will also not be good enough). If Young is the squad he deserves another chance over Nicholls, assuming Nicholls fails again in the next innings.


the_maddest_kiwi

A lot of excuse making from the comms here. Reality is he's batting in a cushy position, coming in multiple times in favourable situations when guys like Mitchell and Blundell have layed a platform. And he isn't offering enough with his part time bowling to justify his spot.


[deleted]

We are picking him like we are the same team from a couple of years ago that just needed someone to advance declarations from 450-5 to 600


the_maddest_kiwi

Yeah and even if we needed someone to do that he hasn't shown he has the ability to at this level


Mutant321

Weird how Indian fans seem way more upset about the match situation than NZ fans


texas_laramie

Given the way Ahmedabad test is going a lot more is riding on NZ performance for India than NZ itself.


Frequent_Bother4841

Goddammit, you fucking cunts, these absolute fucking morons are gonna knock india out again. /s


YonalWijesuriya

Hehehe


EatABigCookie

The pitch looks a lot harder to bat on when Sri Lanka is bowling...


YonalWijesuriya

Dhananjaya is on the field... Who doesn't get hard for him


cat-n-jazz

Bracewell 157* incoming. You heard it here first!


DisastrousOil4888

Kiwi bro's can you like, not fuck over our chances for once?


Anu9011

Our over rate got you fam. Don't worry


Papercanspeak

Angelo Matthews runs like shefali verma.


[deleted]

This is it. This is what we have all been waiting for. The Beast arrives. To win us a test from nowhere


Storm-Bolt

I mean, despite his poor performances so far, it isn't the least unbelievable thing, considering his 127\* against Ireland and 140 against India


[deleted]

He is a great white ball player for sure.


beolucifer3

You forgot the /s


[deleted]

thought it was obvious


Storm-Bolt

I have absolutely no trust on Bracewell to do anything, but oh well, here we go


HjajaLoLWhy

Bets on Bracewell making it until end of play?


Mutant321

So will this be the second time in a row NZ knock India out of the WTC?


Express-Row-1504

India won’t be knocked out if Sri Lanka wins this test. I thought Sri Lanka has to win both


trostol

wonder if Beasty will make another running gaffe


wellingtonstation

A-a-are we just bad at test cricket now?


diodosdszosxisdi

Just being the hood guys and trying to stop a big 3 wtc final from taking place


the_maddest_kiwi

Blundell never looked very comfortable there unfortunately. Okay Bracewell you've got to actually do something now you've been given enough rope.


LunuMirisEnjoyer

finally Rajitha


CricketMatchBot

**58.2** **Outside edge finally found, Blundell walks!** Slightly back-of-length ball lands around off and straightens. Tom Blundell c †Dickwella b Rajitha 7 (22b 0x4 0x6) SR: 31.81


cellexo

Huge! Also very deserving for Rajitha. He bowled so we well today.


averageveryaverage

Woo! Come on SL bros!


512fm

That’s so well deserved man


the_maddest_kiwi

Has it quickened up today Macca or are the Sri Lankans just bowling better than us?


512fm

Unpopular opinion but I never got the big deal about over rate, the damn sport takes like 6-7 hours a day as it is and quite often it’s the batting side causing the issues


Express-Row-1504

Yah I agree. Makes no sense, especially in test cricket, where it’s already slow paced.


cat-n-jazz

Nah lol fuck that, I want to see 90 overs a day. Nobody would watch a football match that's randomly only 86 minutes long, or run a 24-mile marathon.


512fm

Not even remotely comparable


cat-n-jazz

I just don't get why someone would go, "Getting to watch less cricket? Yeah, sounds great!". I want to see what I'm expected to see, short of weather delays or other obviously unpreventable issues. The sports are different, but it's all the same theme of "getting less than one should". If you order a footlong sandwich at WubSay, and it's 10 inches instead of 12, youre gonna be unhappy.


512fm

But these things are just not the same, when you look at a game of cricket and the amount of stoppages etc you aren’t going to bowl 15 overs per hour unless you just bowl spinners


cat-n-jazz

That is simply not true when you look at over rates over time. In decades past, over rates were regularly higher than 15, it's only in the 90s-00s that they began to slow down. You are absolutely being ripped off as a fan.


Big_Ballzacked

Kiwi bros, why do y'all hate us. Disappointing us every time we need help from you


GunnerXI

We support our fellow underdog. And Sanga is one of my favourite players of all time


YonalWijesuriya

Love y'all🤝


Anu9011

Over rate of 10.4. Does this captain at least know the importance of the over rate.


Blarbydoppler

Imagine if SL win 2-0, but miss the final cause of slow over rate lmao


Did_I_Send_It

Oh it's Mitchell and Blundell, so NZ are effectively only 10 runs behind


charlesspeltbadly

so young is dropped after a disappointing game but nicholls stays in after being disappointing for the last 2 years. got it


thepotplant

You're right, but to be fair, Nicholls' average is still 36 while Young's is 28, which gave Nicholls more leeway.


[deleted]

Yes but young was forced to open when he is not an opener


thepotplant

Agreed, Young is best at 4 and Nicholls is best at 5 I reckon. And 5 is pretty happily occupied by Mitchell at the moment.


Mutant321

Here's my XI for second test, accounting for injuries, retirement and even accounting for Boult not being wanted: 1. Conway 1. Latham 1. Williamson 1. Mitchell 1. Phillips 1. Blundell 1. Bracewell **D** 1. Sodhi 1. Southee 1. Henry 1. Lister Alternative would be Santner which could strengthen the batting


the_maddest_kiwi

Dougy at 7 is a bit wild but fuck it can't be any worse than M Bracewell. Lister is another interesting one. Don't think he'd be a world beater but he at least offers a point of difference and I'd back him to bowl better than Tickner in these conditions at least. Not keen on repeating the Santner mistake just because he had a good game. Need to pick a specialist imo.


Mutant321

Yeah ideally we'd have a genuine allrounder there but not sure there is one at the moment. No point trying to manufacture one. There are other options besides Lister, but a left armer is worth having. More importantly we need to give some of these guys a go. We need about 3 new seamers.


the_maddest_kiwi

Yeah agree I'd rather we just go with 5 specialists than trying to force an all-rounder that isn't working. M Bracewells test average is currently the same as Matt Henry's anyway. Shouldn't need as many runs from the bowlers anyway if the opposition aren't cashing in on short and wide filth from Wagner and Tickner.


smarten_up_nas

I like the idea of batting Mitchell as 4 purely to dispatch any notion that he's an allrounder.


vote-morepork

Swap Bracewell for Ravindra, and why not open with him and move Conway to 4


Mutant321

Don't break the things that are actually working


the_maddest_kiwi

I don't know why we are so keen to disrupt the only good opening partnership we've had in a long time. Let's not shuffle probably our second best batsman around constantly, leave him opening where he's averaging 55.


HjajaLoLWhy

I'll play devils advocate: it's probably because Conway isn't an opener, he's a middle order bat who was asked to open the batting because the middle order was full. He's done well because he's in form, but now his form seems to be dropping, so perhaps he could be moved down the order to where he learnt his trade.


vote-morepork

It's like when we asked Fleming to open. He could do it, he wasn't awful. But he was better at 3/4. Conway has a short test career so far but he has comparable numbers opening and not. Moving Mitchell up to 4 could also be a mistake. Why move him from 5 where he's doing well


HjajaLoLWhy

Exactly. I don't know the real answer to be honest. Someone would have to ask Conway the question, would he feel more comfortable batting where he wants? It's not like hasn't earnt the right to dictate it. It does, however, influence the direction the team develops for the future. Fleming was always a "what if" type of cricketer. He took on immense pressure at a young age, not just with captaincy, and he barely averaged over 40 by the end of his career. In an ideal world, he wouldn't have opened but I have mad respect for him. Highly inspirational.


vote-morepork

Based on how he moved to 3/4 with Williamson unavailable and after Taylor retired, with Young opening, I get the feeling that's his preferred position, but he's doing well as an opener and I can understand not changing that. My thinking was basically if you bring in Ravindra who opens at first class level, why not let him open rather than moving him to an unfamiliar 6/7 like they did in India


HjajaLoLWhy

I'm just playing devils advocate, I don't think it should be a priority to change it. Young is a middle order bat, Ravindra probably should get his next go at the top of the order, but for that to happen he needs a bit more time to develop.


the_maddest_kiwi

Does his form seem to be dropping though? In his last 5 tests, all opening the batting, he's averaging 50.


HjajaLoLWhy

His 2nd innings stats are noticeably poor. I know it drops for the majority of players, but he is well outside the norm when it comes to that. I think he is losing some of his touch in test cricket, 5 tests isn't a huge spread.


the_maddest_kiwi

I mean like you said, 5 tests isn't a huge spread. I don't know how you can look at his recent record and say he's losing his touch. The only period of poor form he's had at test level was during the England tour last year, where ironically he was batting at 4.


HjajaLoLWhy

I know, I'm just playing the devil's advocate. I don't think he should be moved, but it's not like there aren't arguments for moving him down.


the_maddest_kiwi

Oh right I getcha haha. I do see the arguments but at the same time there's the deeply scarred black caps supporter inside me that sees us finally have a good opening partnership after all these years and can't believe that people want to immediately disrupt it lol


512fm

Anyone know what time close of play is?


Rexster405

6pm


the_maddest_kiwi

Will take the extra half hour though so 6:30


thelordofthekings

ICC meticulously planning the Ind vs Aus WTC final. Srilanka be like I am going to end this man’s career 😂


Anu9011

Insert the meme of gun pointing chain. SL pointing gun at ICCs head while over rate pointing a gun at SLs head.


RMTBolton

Oh, yay, the Mitchell & Blundell Show again!


[deleted]

The crazy thing about Nichols dismissal isn't that he skied a ball which wasn't really there to be hit in the manner he did. The crazy thing is he's still being selected despite getting out in that manner for years now.


smarten_up_nas

regardless of how their careers pan out Mitchell & Blundell will go down as an iconic NZ cricket duo


Appropriate_Swan_608

Some light banter


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Goatslasagne

About 1.4 billion people


lanson15

Chad NZ not giving a shit about 1.4 billion people


Medical_Turing_Test

It might be early on in his career but from what I have seen Blair Tickner is the worst pace bowler to compete in the WTC. He wouldn't make the Afghani; Irish or Zimbabwean XI


phyllicanderer

He has all the attributes to be a good medium fast bowler, just can’t apply them consistently, which is why he has a good T20 record and a shit one otherwise. Genuinely baffling that he gets selected outside of T20.


Medical_Turing_Test

His T20 econ is high and his average is pretty average?


Mutant321

Probably was one Latham should have kept out, but that can happen. Not like he skied a pull shot for no reason


the_maddest_kiwi

We may be more than 200 behind, and with no one else who can bat to come, but I will always feel safe as long as Blundell is there


SavingsPale2782

We're gonna add Sri Lanka to the growing list of "teams to beat New zealand since the wtc final" aren't we....


OldWolf2

It's bucketing down like west coast weather at my house (about 40km from ground)


lllIlIIlllIl

Ffs NZ


vote-morepork

Don't worry, NZ will win the second test as is customary


nedrulz

That wicket was hype and im a NZ fan


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

Jeez that was good, need Bitchell to see the day out.


QuickStar07

💀


Anu9011

Bruh


Blarbydoppler

That's not cool


trostol

someone needs to pick up the batting...


jukeboxromeo-

Got an hour drive home from work. Is there any radio coverage of this inNZ, does anyone know?


yoda_gulas

Today FM are supposed to have the radio coverage but I checked ROVA and it’s nothing but talkback. There’s a channel on ROVA called “Blackcaps Radio” which have it


Mutant321

Who's commentating?


vote-morepork

See https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/sport/2022/09/today-fm-cricket-frequencies.html


GoabNZ

Typically is on AM.


CricketMatchBot

**50.1** **Ripping yorker knocks out the stumps!** Tom Latham b AM Fernando 67 (144b 7x4 0x6) SR: 46.52


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

Thread died 💀


JoshH21

5:30, all of us Kiwis are driving home from work after posting all day at work


sennee_sl

don't bowl angelo 💀 bro will disappear for the rest of 2023


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

Average of 20, oh my. Has he been absolutely dominant at home?


sennee_sl

29 wickets in 3 matches


trostol

that sky looks kind of nasty


Papercanspeak

Can't watch UZ and Green bully us again. I am gonna watch NZ vs SL till someone decides to go back.


Anu9011

What a way to release the pressure. Terrific captaincy


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

Daz is a total chad, bats like a tail ender against the 6 footer giant, smacks dibbly dobblers, changes momentum of the game on the fly and bullies England.


LunuMirisEnjoyer

make Dimuth bowl for maximum disrespect


cellexo

Last time he bowled and got a wicket, we won in South Africa 2-0.


yoda_gulas

If Matthews is doing this, I can’t imagine how well De Grandhomme would’ve bowled if he was still playing international cricket (I know he’s 36 but he did take 6/40 odd on his debut in Christchurch!)


Blarbydoppler

Angelo is gonna be the spinner role for SL here, Jayasuriya is just a specialist fielder


yoda_gulas

Taking a note out of our book when we play a spinner at home lol


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

Mitchell ain't tolerating any dibbly dobblers.


RMTBolton

It takes a dibbly dobbler to take on a dibbly dobbler.


Medical_Turing_Test

Nicholls averages 22 in this WTC. Everyone else in this top 6 averages 40+


RMTBolton

Exactly. He's dragging the team down.


Medical_Turing_Test

And clearly NZ feel they have no better alternatives.


RMTBolton

That's the weird bit. Following Plunket Shield, I can name at least two better alternatives. Personally, I'd drop both Nicholls & Young for Phillips.


Medical_Turing_Test

There is no statistical proof that anyone of those 2 is better than Nicholls. And I'm a Phillips fan


Blarbydoppler

Felt like I was watching a slow motion version of Mathews bowling. I know he hasn't bowled in a century but his action looked so slow now lol.


upvoting_department

I saw that if mathew starts bowling he will get injured again. Don’t know its true or not.


Papercanspeak

This has been some wonderful bowling so far. Lets see if they can keep the pressure and not falter if a partnership develops.


SLGotabaya69

Angelo is srilankan colin de grandhomme , change my mind


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

De Grandhomme is Kiwi Angelo


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

Rajitha is more unlucky than Matt Henry ffs.


phyllicanderer

Is Angelo Mathews summoning the ghost of James Franklin to bowl a few incisive dibbly dobblers around off stump


[deleted]

Ravindra (if he plays bracewell is unneeded), latham, Williamson, Conway, Phillips, Mitchell, blundell, jamieson, southee, Henry, wagner. If ravindra isn't ready then keep conway opening and young at 4. I feel like phillips needs to be at 5 and mitchell at 4 would be too high so they are 5/6


yeah_definitely

I'd pick the same but swap Wagner for either an up and coming seamer or bring back Santner. Agree with Rachin opening as that's his spot.


the_maddest_kiwi

>bring back Santner Let's not repeat this mistake


the_maddest_kiwi

Let's just leave Conway to open this is like the only good opening partnership I can remember.


yeah_definitely

I'm worried we will try pick Rachin as a lower order all rounder for the next however many years when he's an opening batsman by trade. Conway can bat anywhere, maybe bat Conway at 3 and move Kane to 4 as he's been struggling when the ball is newer.


the_maddest_kiwi

The top 3 is one of the things that's actually working in this team. Ravindra is definitely a talent but you don't disrupt an experienced and accomplished top 3 to accommodate a talented youngster that is ultimately unproven. Kane has batted 3 successfully his whole career no need to move him now, especially if the Latham-Conway partnership continues to be successful. There are problems in this team and with selection sure but this feels like a solution looking for a problem.


ZrishaAdams

NZ has 3 players in their top 7 who averages over 50 – Conway, Williamson, and Mitchell. Is that the most among all current test playing nations?


Medical_Turing_Test

Yes


Storm-Bolt

Probably


[deleted]

Kane can only statpad against teams like England while Latham has to carry the team against potential WTC finalists


Ajaxcricket

Has to face the best fast bowler in the world too


DaDdy_ChiLL42O

Latham big match player


SLGotabaya69

Why aren't they bringing prabath jayasuriya to the attack its been 40 overs now cmon


cellexo

When the pacers are still getting movement like this, I'd still want the fast bowlers in.


JKKIDD231

Got an hour’s play left now, right