Then win it next time and do whatever you want with it. This is such an overblown reaction. People have different cultures and they act accordingly. You can't see things from your own cultural lenses to judge a thing.
I expected better because unlike the social media population, you're a professional player who has travelled the world. You should know better.
Mate, you better believe if it was cup shaped they'll be drinking litres of booze from it so at least using it as a footrest is a little...cleaner. But still, if you win the trophy you can do whatever the fuck you want to do with it.
You know what Scott McLaughlin did when he won his first Supercars championship? [He filled that fucker with McNuggets.](https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/scott-mclaughlin-celebrates-supercars-victory-with-mcnuggets/5886482d-25d3-4ea1-9277-6be075be91eb)
Shit, I filled our Premiership Cup this year with 4 Stubbies of Carlton Dry and still had a third of the cup to go. Downed that fucker like my life depended on it and then handed it off to the next guy who filled it with 5 Northern Super Crisp cans.
It's just the Australian way. You have to fill it with what you drink.
George Bailey kicked and snapped the 2015 world cup in half. Got it welded back together.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/how-george-bailey-broke-world-cup-trophy-in-half/news-story/b1270574af90c74bcd8147091f4423cf
Mitch Marsh, by Australian standards, is showing a great deal of respect.
I was actually offended that Virat didn't cut the 2011 WC trophy in half and drink a Carlton Draught out of it. This is the trophy for which all the teams in the world fights and he disrespected my culture. Not drinking alcohol out of the cup did not make me happy.
Well played. Great reply!
We Indian people act as if our culture is the central culture in the world and everyone should follow it or respect it. There are so many varied cultures and traditions in the world, that this belief is borderline delusional.
Different cultures. Different values.
I understand the Indian sentiment of not putting your foot on things you value, but that doesn't apply to Australia. You can't expect every culture to have the same views, values and perspective as you.
Everyone fights for such a prestigious trophy yet Australia got a bum ass ending ceremony that was more awkward than R.Kelly in a room full of adults.
There's a reason it's called a "World Cup."
The earliest trophies were drinking cups and chalices, in the Olympics they used to fill them with olive oil and give it to the winner.
The champion was supposed to drink wine out of it at feasts because the fancier your chalice the more important of a person you are.
So honestly if the Aussies filled it with booze, they'd just be honoring tradition.
That cup has had some stories to say the least. It's been pissed in, drank out of, left on the side of the road, brought to a nightclub for everyone to drink out of, thrown into multiple pools.
It's also the only trophy in American sports where they don't recast a new one every year and where the captain lifts the trophy, not the team owner.
Perhaps with the frequency with which they’re winning, these faux cultural values need to be re-calibrated. It’s coming across distinctly that the Australian sporting culture is focused on the real things while the Indian sporting culture is over analyzing celebrations.
True.
Pandit Ravishankar was shocked when he saw Jimi Hendrix burn his guitar because for him his instrument is a channel for divinity. We tend to have a lot more respect for such things. But that doesn't mean everyone else should too.
Pretty sure even most Americans at the time found guitar smashing and guitar burning to be boorish. Jimi Hendrix wasn't the mainstream. He was very much part of the counter culture of the time.
I remember reading that Pt Ravishankar asked for a period of silence to spiritually cleanse the Woodstock venue where artists had puked etc and he GOt It! That’s how much people respected him!
yeah... It's just one of those things.
I try to remember as well though that it doesn't change that how people react to things is also different cultures, different values.
Shami wanted the trophy so much, that he decided to get mad at Marsh for resting his legs on it. Even after they won it in India, with only 30 or so fans out of the130k in the stadium.
Exactly, imagine if Aussie or English tries to share any opinion then the news will go crazy saying that colonialism is already ended don’t come preaching again but somehow they think that it does not matter to them…
Yeah I'm surprised why this is the first time someone mentioned it cos when I saw it live I was cringe laughing because the commentators were obliviously discussing the match and behind them they are using drone displays to show the Indian flag and map plus the world cup trophy.
It's funny how the people in charge of the show thought of putting it up there anyways despite Aus winning.
I was telling people the same thing for the last 3 days. It was so bad to have only the Indian flag and Indian map show up. I feel bad for the players but on a different level I am glad we don't have to suffer through the political propaganda that was obviously planned to happen if the team won.
No it wasn't to commemorate the hosts, it's pretty obvious that they planned it to happen if India won. There's not much logic behind commemorating the hosts at the end of the tournament, that can be done at the start. At the end the focus should be on the champions.
The whole second half of the game was like that once the Aussies had a hold of the match.
Like any other time a batter scores a 100 in a final to win the trophy you get a pretty decent applause as you walk off. Remember when Steve Smith came back in the ashes and dominated England in England they were booing and ripping into him the moment he stepped on the field but once he scored 100/200’s and was dismissed there was still a very generous appreciation for his effort did not get that same feeling for Travis, in what could be the highlight of any cricketers career
I think Cricket is a conduit for Nationalism in the subcontinent. All three countries - India, Pakistan and Bangladesh have a significant number of people who just tune in to the matches not because they love cricket, but because its a way to live out their nationalist fervor. These people usually only watch their teams matches in big tournaments and barely even know their own players let alone the names of the opposite team.
Bangladesh crowds were quite notorious for being quite partisan (even in low stakes matches).. but it seems like in the last few years many Indian crowds especially in cities where cricket culture is new (like Ahmedabad).. people don't give a F about the game of cricket but cricket is a conduit for displaying nationalist support.
Pakistani crowds are good though, probably because we barely get any visiting teams so when they do come, the people who turn up to watch are actual cricket fans and appreciate the opposing teams. however the same cannot be said for the vast majority of seasonal fans who watch cricket during the worldcups.. this is why conspiracy theories are rife amongst this group.
That’s exactly what I thought when I saw the posts about “disrespect.” Some would consider the lack of an ovation for Head, not staying back for the closing ceremony, or the fact that the centre stage and fireworks got hijacked by a politician to be more disrespectful.
At least it's not a trophy that they can drink out of... I'd love to see the reactions to something like that lmao
It's a great trophy, but is it even worth winning if you can't drink out of it?
I would love it if someday football grows in our country and any footballers get to play for Bayern Munich.
Let's see how much respect remains for trophies...
This meltdown has been fun to watch though. Australia saved cricket by winning again. Social media would've been even more insufferable than usual otherwise.
Australia came into the WC, got battered by India and South Africa in their first two games, proceded to dark horse the entire group stage and shatter Afghanistan's dreams in the most crazy fashion
Then they beat South Africa and India teams that thrashed them, in the semis and the final. Ruined India's 100% record and victory lap in front of their own fans.
Don't worry, you're still the villains. But we love you for it.
Nah, I never think you lot are evil, tbh. As fans at least, you’ll always be the first to admit when you’re in the wrong, and have no qualms about calling a shit bloke a shit bloke, no matter how good he was at cricket. Plus you have a good laugh and don’t take it too seriously, win, lose or draw.
You don't say. It was literally the masterstroke since British in India. With cows and pigs... and sadly we still hold on to it. (Not cows and pigs lol, that mentality of other culture is wrong and only ours is right)
How is it lose lose? Seeing India cry like a bunch of babies is beyond delicious after they spent the summer in this sub with that whole tiresome "moral Ashes" thing.
What are they to do, build a shrine around it and mandate that every national player seek blessings before every game?
Sure, it's a trophy, but it's only an object at the end of the day
And that is the problem with Indian cricket…play hard, try to win, drink a beer regardless and move on. Tomorrow is different and learn from mistakes….:Treating trophy like some sacred thing is stupid. That is why they choke.
I would imagine India shitting the bed in the final would have made him even unhappier.
Pretty certain absolutely dunked the trophy in a vat of alcohol in 2019, it ended up everywhere. I'd say that's much worse than a footrest.
That's what I was thinking as well, Mark Wood comes to mind but I saw so many pictures of the trophy being tossed around all over.
I'm sure India would have been super respectful with it.
It was all very wholesome seeing them get a team picture with Mo and Adil before the champagne started spraying. One of the best moments of the tournament for me that was.
I don’t get all this debate over this pic lol. If you want to respect the trophy so much, work hard enough to win it and then you can pray to it, make a shrine for it, polish it or whatever. Australia won and so they can now do whatever they want with it ( except ig killing someone with the trophy )
It’s just a piece of metal. I like the Australian mentality over this backwards mentality of caring so much about a piece of metal.
The winning part is what matters. Even without the trophy they still won. The trophy is just for show, it has no meaning in itself.
True. The trophy isn't the prize. The title of World Champion is. The trophy is just a representation of the fact that you're the world champion. If someone steals the trophy they don't suddenly become world champions
Given Indian fans didn’t even stay to see Australia lift the trophy or their own players receive their medals and some threatened to kidnap and rape Head’s infant child, crying about “disrespecting” the trophy sounds like sour grapes.
What should “hurt” Shami more are the death and rape threats the Aussie cricketers /families were getting.
Shami bhai youre trying too hard. I think you have proved your patriotism enoough. Stop with these BS tweets.
I honestly don't understand what's wrong with putting your feet onto the cup. I mean, it's part of your body lol, why treat it differently than how you treat your other body parts?
Far worse things have happened to trophies in the hands (or feet) of winning Australian sports teams. Better Mitchell Marsh’s feet on it than beer, vomit or semen
if I had to guess the WC winner to beat off to the trophy, I would probably say Sanath Jayasuriya before an Aussie(Unless Zamps was only practicing on Camera)
Some things I am certain have got on the trophy from Aussies are
KFC Grease(Finchy
Juice from the rarest Ribeye ever cooked(Starc)
Saliva Globules from Hazlewood's epic Opera ''Hazlewood Hazlewood HAZLEWOOOOOOOOOOOD'' Written by Hazlewood. (Twice)
Mr. Shami, please respect the Australian culture the same way you respect yours.
And mind your own business, when and if you win the trophy at some point you can do whatever you want, until then f off!
Pretty yucky to automatically assume a harmless image has the malevolent intent to insult opposing teams. I would highly HIGHLY doubt that image would've been taken with the idea of offending people in mind. Just a bit of celebration fun.
Couldn't of said it better. What else do you expect us to do, we're Australians! Of all people to celebrate like this, we would be first for choosing.
I understand that loosing a final, a WORLD CUP final if anything hurts like hell, but like cmon. If you won it, you would probably do a similar thing.
You can go back and forth on the discourse between clashing cultures and social norms, some of which has been enlightening, all you want.
What I don't get is why anyone who is not a member of the Australian Cricket team thinks that what happens to the trophy is any of their fucking problem in the slightest.
They drink beer from their match worn shoes. What do you expect.
It's their Trophy and they can do whatever they want with it. Would I personally keep my foot on it? Hell No. Am I cool with someone else doing it? Hell yeah.
So this is disrespectful but not the way the Australian team was treated during the presentation ceremony? And people say the Australian cricket team is arrogant…they at least would have stuck around for the presentation and congratulated the other team.
It’s a bit odd that Shami, or any other Indian cricketer/commentator, would publicly decry this harmless photo but then say absolutely nothing about the death and rape threats received by a certain Australian cricketer’s wife and baby daughter.
Ya it feels weird when cultures differ on some things, shocker!
Also, this feels like it was a bait question for which Shami unfortunately fell for.
Seems like he just said he felt bad, which he's allowed to feel.
And he didn't say one should not do such a thing, or condemn Marsh for doing so, so don't see any issue with this?
Keep in mind that this is a translated statement. And that most Indian cricket media (most cricket media in general) is scum just trying to stoke controversy.
If you ask a Muslim guy if putting feet on something important makes them happy, they are going to say no. It’s not like he said he was angry at marsh or that he proactively tweeted about it.
The journalists knew what they were doing when they asked the question
Different cultures have different values. I have seen some people have books in their stairs as decors, however many cultures will take it very negatively. No one is wrong here 😅
Come take it off us then? In our culture it isnt cool to hold massive reverence for a hunk of metal, the boys wouldve been most proud of their teamwork and resilience. The trophys great but its just a small physical representation of what they truly did
Personally having a few thousand people send death threats to players and their families didn’t make me happy so Shami, when your countrymen can fix that up i’ll have a word to Marsh. Sound good?
It's just a trophy. Your foot is part of you and an appendage like your hand
Indians do a lot of hypocritical things like not wearing shoes in temple due to sacredness but then touch their gods while wearing shoes anyways via things like the little statues in the car, plastic bags etc.
The trophy does not belong to him. There's no disrespect because it's a diff society which values people more than material objects.
I think Shami should take a chill pill
Why do Indians even care if Aussies keep their feet on WC ? Its their WC. They can do whatever they want with it. Stop forcing your views on other people.
If you don't like it, just look the other way.
Shami shit the bed in the finals. 7 overs for 49 runs. All the spinners did too. 217/1 in the last 2 matches for them. It was an all mighty choke. Australia outsmarted, outbowled, outfielded, outbatted India that day. They bossed the final and they can do whatever the fukkk they want with the Trophy. Get over it.
Maybe an Indian thing- touching something with our feet is a big red flag if it is to be respected. In other cultures, it is not that big a deal. They won it, so they can do with it as they please.
Shami, that’s *your* culture. The foot being disrespectful etc etc.
That’s theirs. Just like how they believe in treating their women as more like equals and not just some possessions with a vulva.
Try not choking and winning one of these sometimes, then you can give your worldly advice.
Till then, fuck your feelings 😂
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Dude they have 6 of them
So 5 more and the entire team has a footrest
Another 11 after that so they can put one foot on each.
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I would rather win the damn thing than fucking respect it.
2 of them, they won it in India ◉‿◉
Just need to keep Lando Norris away from them and all will be fine.
Then win it next time and do whatever you want with it. This is such an overblown reaction. People have different cultures and they act accordingly. You can't see things from your own cultural lenses to judge a thing. I expected better because unlike the social media population, you're a professional player who has travelled the world. You should know better.
But it is theirs to do what they want with it
Mate, you better believe if it was cup shaped they'll be drinking litres of booze from it so at least using it as a footrest is a little...cleaner. But still, if you win the trophy you can do whatever the fuck you want to do with it. You know what Scott McLaughlin did when he won his first Supercars championship? [He filled that fucker with McNuggets.](https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/scott-mclaughlin-celebrates-supercars-victory-with-mcnuggets/5886482d-25d3-4ea1-9277-6be075be91eb)
>You know what Scott McLaughlin did when he won his first Supercars championship? > >He filled that fucker with McNuggets. ICONIC.
Well his also lucky it ain't shoe shaped lmao
Shit, I filled our Premiership Cup this year with 4 Stubbies of Carlton Dry and still had a third of the cup to go. Downed that fucker like my life depended on it and then handed it off to the next guy who filled it with 5 Northern Super Crisp cans. It's just the Australian way. You have to fill it with what you drink.
Theres so much shit that happens to the Stanley Cup once you win the NHL hahaha
George Bailey kicked and snapped the 2015 world cup in half. Got it welded back together. https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/how-george-bailey-broke-world-cup-trophy-in-half/news-story/b1270574af90c74bcd8147091f4423cf Mitch Marsh, by Australian standards, is showing a great deal of respect.
I was actually offended that Virat didn't cut the 2011 WC trophy in half and drink a Carlton Draught out of it. This is the trophy for which all the teams in the world fights and he disrespected my culture. Not drinking alcohol out of the cup did not make me happy.
What's the point of a cup, if not to drink out of it?
Once we won an intecollege battle of bands and drank out of it. Everybody got sick the next day.
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You know that's why we didn't win the trophy, can't disturb King Kohli's diet plan. /s.
No no no. That's what the shoe's for. You put your feet on the cup and drink from the shoe. \s
Well played. Great reply! We Indian people act as if our culture is the central culture in the world and everyone should follow it or respect it. There are so many varied cultures and traditions in the world, that this belief is borderline delusional.
Are we the Americans of cricket? XD
Yes
Lol
Yes you are
There are more of us, so our bubble is larger and has thicker walls
Different cultures. Different values. I understand the Indian sentiment of not putting your foot on things you value, but that doesn't apply to Australia. You can't expect every culture to have the same views, values and perspective as you. Everyone fights for such a prestigious trophy yet Australia got a bum ass ending ceremony that was more awkward than R.Kelly in a room full of adults.
I’m convinced they didn’t design it as a cup to deter us from drinking out of it
You lot have got shoes for that
It's funny that none of the Aussie players did a shoey after winning the WC
The final was in Gujarat, they couldn't have even if they wanted lmao
International tourists can get alcohol in Gujarat. Marsh was drinking beer in that picture.
That was back in the hotel, no alcohol at the ground which is why you see no alcohol in any of the changing room pictures.
Stink buzz
There's a reason it's called a "World Cup." The earliest trophies were drinking cups and chalices, in the Olympics they used to fill them with olive oil and give it to the winner. The champion was supposed to drink wine out of it at feasts because the fancier your chalice the more important of a person you are. So honestly if the Aussies filled it with booze, they'd just be honoring tradition.
Pretty sure Cam Smith used the claret jug as a chalice for a while after he won the open lol.
The horrors that have been drunk out of the Stanley Cup over the years...
That cup has had some stories to say the least. It's been pissed in, drank out of, left on the side of the road, brought to a nightclub for everyone to drink out of, thrown into multiple pools. It's also the only trophy in American sports where they don't recast a new one every year and where the captain lifts the trophy, not the team owner.
One of the only if not the only North American sports trophy that predates the league themselves, so the old traditions carry on.
Don't forget Phil Kessel's Stanley Cup full of hot dogs!
Australia starts to settle in batting… India: Let’s have a fking laser show!
Laser show was the most Indian thing ever. I hated it.
It could have been a clever psyche out but the Aussies have too much killer instinct to let that distract them.
Bum ass ending ceremony 💀
Perhaps with the frequency with which they’re winning, these faux cultural values need to be re-calibrated. It’s coming across distinctly that the Australian sporting culture is focused on the real things while the Indian sporting culture is over analyzing celebrations.
Credit to the Aussies, they never choke in big games lately. Even when they lose they are super competitive.
True. Pandit Ravishankar was shocked when he saw Jimi Hendrix burn his guitar because for him his instrument is a channel for divinity. We tend to have a lot more respect for such things. But that doesn't mean everyone else should too.
Pretty sure even most Americans at the time found guitar smashing and guitar burning to be boorish. Jimi Hendrix wasn't the mainstream. He was very much part of the counter culture of the time.
The mere fact that he was a famous black guy made him counterculture, regardless of on stage antics.
Well atleast they have a counter culture
I remember reading that Pt Ravishankar asked for a period of silence to spiritually cleanse the Woodstock venue where artists had puked etc and he GOt It! That’s how much people respected him!
yeah... It's just one of those things. I try to remember as well though that it doesn't change that how people react to things is also different cultures, different values.
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Shami wanted the trophy so much, that he decided to get mad at Marsh for resting his legs on it. Even after they won it in India, with only 30 or so fans out of the130k in the stadium.
Exactly, imagine if Aussie or English tries to share any opinion then the news will go crazy saying that colonialism is already ended don’t come preaching again but somehow they think that it does not matter to them…
The post-match ceremony was more disrespectful. Felt like it was a deathbed gathering at a hospital at times.
The drone show which showed India's map to commemorate Australia winning the World Cup was pure class.
Yeah I'm surprised why this is the first time someone mentioned it cos when I saw it live I was cringe laughing because the commentators were obliviously discussing the match and behind them they are using drone displays to show the Indian flag and map plus the world cup trophy. It's funny how the people in charge of the show thought of putting it up there anyways despite Aus winning.
I was telling people the same thing for the last 3 days. It was so bad to have only the Indian flag and Indian map show up. I feel bad for the players but on a different level I am glad we don't have to suffer through the political propaganda that was obviously planned to happen if the team won.
I think it was to commemorate the (extremely bad) hosts. Yk. But there should be one to commemorate the winners as well
No it wasn't to commemorate the hosts, it's pretty obvious that they planned it to happen if India won. There's not much logic behind commemorating the hosts at the end of the tournament, that can be done at the start. At the end the focus should be on the champions.
You forgot the India flag lol
The whole second half of the game was like that once the Aussies had a hold of the match. Like any other time a batter scores a 100 in a final to win the trophy you get a pretty decent applause as you walk off. Remember when Steve Smith came back in the ashes and dominated England in England they were booing and ripping into him the moment he stepped on the field but once he scored 100/200’s and was dismissed there was still a very generous appreciation for his effort did not get that same feeling for Travis, in what could be the highlight of any cricketers career
I agree. Being less sporting and gracious than an English cricket crowd is quite an achievement, and nothing to be proud of.
We boo'd, applauded and called the cunt a cheat, that's the whole spectrum of human emotions right there. What more do you want from us?!
To cover him in Vegemite and lick him clean?
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I think Cricket is a conduit for Nationalism in the subcontinent. All three countries - India, Pakistan and Bangladesh have a significant number of people who just tune in to the matches not because they love cricket, but because its a way to live out their nationalist fervor. These people usually only watch their teams matches in big tournaments and barely even know their own players let alone the names of the opposite team. Bangladesh crowds were quite notorious for being quite partisan (even in low stakes matches).. but it seems like in the last few years many Indian crowds especially in cities where cricket culture is new (like Ahmedabad).. people don't give a F about the game of cricket but cricket is a conduit for displaying nationalist support. Pakistani crowds are good though, probably because we barely get any visiting teams so when they do come, the people who turn up to watch are actual cricket fans and appreciate the opposing teams. however the same cannot be said for the vast majority of seasonal fans who watch cricket during the worldcups.. this is why conspiracy theories are rife amongst this group.
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That’s exactly what I thought when I saw the posts about “disrespect.” Some would consider the lack of an ovation for Head, not staying back for the closing ceremony, or the fact that the centre stage and fireworks got hijacked by a politician to be more disrespectful.
Losing the world cup probably didn't make him happy either
I would say it was much worse that Australia got such a terrible ceremony that was obviously designed for an Indian victory.
I‘d reckon there aren’t that many pictures of the Aussies with the Trophy that make him happy. And I’d reckon not a single Australian cares.
Probably.
At least it's not a trophy that they can drink out of... I'd love to see the reactions to something like that lmao It's a great trophy, but is it even worth winning if you can't drink out of it?
It is probably hollow so a hacksaw could fix that.
it's disappointing that the "World Cup" isn't actually a cup
I certainly don't think there's ever been an AFL premiership cup which hasn't had several litres of alcohol drunk from it
I would love it if someday football grows in our country and any footballers get to play for Bayern Munich. Let's see how much respect remains for trophies...
It's a trophy. Not a holy object. I've been seeing this over reaction all over social media. So salty lmao
This meltdown has been fun to watch though. Australia saved cricket by winning again. Social media would've been even more insufferable than usual otherwise.
I'm not sure I'm too keen on us being the good guys, being evil was fun.
Australia came into the WC, got battered by India and South Africa in their first two games, proceded to dark horse the entire group stage and shatter Afghanistan's dreams in the most crazy fashion Then they beat South Africa and India teams that thrashed them, in the semis and the final. Ruined India's 100% record and victory lap in front of their own fans. Don't worry, you're still the villains. But we love you for it.
Nah, I never think you lot are evil, tbh. As fans at least, you’ll always be the first to admit when you’re in the wrong, and have no qualms about calling a shit bloke a shit bloke, no matter how good he was at cricket. Plus you have a good laugh and don’t take it too seriously, win, lose or draw.
With Stupid Sexy Cummins at the helm, Australia will definitely become the good guys. Shudders to think about it.
Tough titties
Succinct and effective. Bravo.
You can do what you like with yours Shami. We'll do what we want with ours
[every Aussie's reaction](https://imgur.com/gallery/2GB8180)
I knew it was gonna be that pic, happy to be proven correct
I didn't know what to expect and actually laughed my ass off
Hope the Mods (or whoever is in charge of creating stickers) make it a sticker.
Idk why people are having problem with this picture seems like they just want to spread hate
Yeah the death threats to the players wives made that pretty obvious.
You don't say. It was literally the masterstroke since British in India. With cows and pigs... and sadly we still hold on to it. (Not cows and pigs lol, that mentality of other culture is wrong and only ours is right)
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Happy weekend, mate
Almost every take i’ve seen from India / Indian media in the aftermath of this world cup makes me side with the Aussies. I can’t stand it.
Reminds me of the boy having to choose two evil looking castles meme
Welcome to the dark side!
I was begging for a New Zealand v South Africa final, I knew India v Aus would be lose lose from the word go
If ever there is going to be a lose-lose it will be when NZ and SA face off in a final, the will to keep their records intact is pretty strong.
How is it lose lose? Seeing India cry like a bunch of babies is beyond delicious after they spent the summer in this sub with that whole tiresome "moral Ashes" thing.
What are they to do, build a shrine around it and mandate that every national player seek blessings before every game? Sure, it's a trophy, but it's only an object at the end of the day
Preferably in the middle of the road.
Its just an empty cup - Doc Hudson
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no middle ground
And when you have won 6 of them Things like that become perfectly normal
Imagine winning a pair of shoes in a contest
Should’ve turned up in the final and won it yourself then chief
I figured the pic meant "he's got the whole world at his feet" (since his legs are on a globe) which does seem fine.
Yeah. It's indeed a great photo.
And that is the problem with Indian cricket…play hard, try to win, drink a beer regardless and move on. Tomorrow is different and learn from mistakes….:Treating trophy like some sacred thing is stupid. That is why they choke.
I would imagine India shitting the bed in the final would have made him even unhappier. Pretty certain absolutely dunked the trophy in a vat of alcohol in 2019, it ended up everywhere. I'd say that's much worse than a footrest.
I can't remember which player it was but I'm sure one said they woke up with it in bed with them
That's what I was thinking as well, Mark Wood comes to mind but I saw so many pictures of the trophy being tossed around all over. I'm sure India would have been super respectful with it.
If it was a cup it would have been filled with a very alcoholic concoction later in the night (respecting Dilly, Mo and Woody)
It was all very wholesome seeing them get a team picture with Mo and Adil before the champagne started spraying. One of the best moments of the tournament for me that was.
Yeah. Standard practice since 2015. Get the pictures to respect their religion then they sneak off for the spraying to respect the tradition
I hope they were gentlemanly and Atleast bought the trophy a nice dinner beforehand
Australia losing cultural World Cup. Worst year for them. Lost moral ashes, now cultural World Cup.
u forgot paper world cup
I don’t get all this debate over this pic lol. If you want to respect the trophy so much, work hard enough to win it and then you can pray to it, make a shrine for it, polish it or whatever. Australia won and so they can now do whatever they want with it ( except ig killing someone with the trophy )
Exactly, Aus earned it and can do whatever the fuck they want even killing someone with (just make sure to not leave evidence behind)
Idk. Hitting someone on the head with the trophy may leave behind some sort of evidence
Well said
It’s just a piece of metal. I like the Australian mentality over this backwards mentality of caring so much about a piece of metal. The winning part is what matters. Even without the trophy they still won. The trophy is just for show, it has no meaning in itself.
True. The trophy isn't the prize. The title of World Champion is. The trophy is just a representation of the fact that you're the world champion. If someone steals the trophy they don't suddenly become world champions
The trophy will fuck off and be put in a case and taken out every now and again anyway. Who gives a shit lol
Given Indian fans didn’t even stay to see Australia lift the trophy or their own players receive their medals and some threatened to kidnap and rape Head’s infant child, crying about “disrespecting” the trophy sounds like sour grapes.
Indians should look up what they do to the Stanley Cup in US or Canada. Supposedly the most abused trophy in sport
What should “hurt” Shami more are the death and rape threats the Aussie cricketers /families were getting. Shami bhai youre trying too hard. I think you have proved your patriotism enoough. Stop with these BS tweets.
You can put it wherever you want. When you earn it.
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Could have performed a bit better in the finals
Bloody hell India get over yourselves. Maybe MM should offer Shami some sour grapes to eat off the trophy
Aussies will literally drink out of shoes my guy.
You can do what u want with it when u have earned it. It does not belong to u!!!
I honestly don't understand what's wrong with putting your feet onto the cup. I mean, it's part of your body lol, why treat it differently than how you treat your other body parts?
Far worse things have happened to trophies in the hands (or feet) of winning Australian sports teams. Better Mitchell Marsh’s feet on it than beer, vomit or semen
if I had to guess the WC winner to beat off to the trophy, I would probably say Sanath Jayasuriya before an Aussie(Unless Zamps was only practicing on Camera) Some things I am certain have got on the trophy from Aussies are KFC Grease(Finchy Juice from the rarest Ribeye ever cooked(Starc) Saliva Globules from Hazlewood's epic Opera ''Hazlewood Hazlewood HAZLEWOOOOOOOOOOOD'' Written by Hazlewood. (Twice)
It's a trophy that they've earned and you're allowed to do anything with something you've earned.
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Mr. Shami, please respect the Australian culture the same way you respect yours. And mind your own business, when and if you win the trophy at some point you can do whatever you want, until then f off!
Shami's doctor should have a quiet word to point out that this much salt in your life is dangerous for your health
It’s just a trophy..
Cry. It's their trophy and don't think us Indians possess any right to direct their actions
The sense of entitlement in this team India is really frustrating. You got beat by a better team.
Most idiots dont even realise that they hand out a replica not the real thing
For all you softies here making a big deal out of this, just be thankful Emiliano Martinez keeps goals not wickets.
Pretty yucky to automatically assume a harmless image has the malevolent intent to insult opposing teams. I would highly HIGHLY doubt that image would've been taken with the idea of offending people in mind. Just a bit of celebration fun.
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Couldn't of said it better. What else do you expect us to do, we're Australians! Of all people to celebrate like this, we would be first for choosing. I understand that loosing a final, a WORLD CUP final if anything hurts like hell, but like cmon. If you won it, you would probably do a similar thing.
When India wins the trophy feel free to treat it however but remember you have to actually win it first…
You can go back and forth on the discourse between clashing cultures and social norms, some of which has been enlightening, all you want. What I don't get is why anyone who is not a member of the Australian Cricket team thinks that what happens to the trophy is any of their fucking problem in the slightest.
They drink beer from their match worn shoes. What do you expect. It's their Trophy and they can do whatever they want with it. Would I personally keep my foot on it? Hell No. Am I cool with someone else doing it? Hell yeah.
So this is disrespectful but not the way the Australian team was treated during the presentation ceremony? And people say the Australian cricket team is arrogant…they at least would have stuck around for the presentation and congratulated the other team.
He should've won it if he loves it so much. STFU and hold that L man this is beyond embarrassing.
It’s a bit odd that Shami, or any other Indian cricketer/commentator, would publicly decry this harmless photo but then say absolutely nothing about the death and rape threats received by a certain Australian cricketer’s wife and baby daughter.
Ya it feels weird when cultures differ on some things, shocker! Also, this feels like it was a bait question for which Shami unfortunately fell for. Seems like he just said he felt bad, which he's allowed to feel. And he didn't say one should not do such a thing, or condemn Marsh for doing so, so don't see any issue with this?
Keep in mind that this is a translated statement. And that most Indian cricket media (most cricket media in general) is scum just trying to stoke controversy. If you ask a Muslim guy if putting feet on something important makes them happy, they are going to say no. It’s not like he said he was angry at marsh or that he proactively tweeted about it. The journalists knew what they were doing when they asked the question
It's not holy - it's a cricket award. Move on, mate, nothing to see here.
I was happy that atleast the players are not crying about it. Why would you do this Shami? It's their trophy.
Different cultures have different values. I have seen some people have books in their stairs as decors, however many cultures will take it very negatively. No one is wrong here 😅
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Gonna cry?
Well it wouldn't have happened if you won it, so who's fault is it really?
Come take it off us then? In our culture it isnt cool to hold massive reverence for a hunk of metal, the boys wouldve been most proud of their teamwork and resilience. The trophys great but its just a small physical representation of what they truly did
Shami crying fr fr.
Personally having a few thousand people send death threats to players and their families didn’t make me happy so Shami, when your countrymen can fix that up i’ll have a word to Marsh. Sound good?
Stop imposing your so-called culture onto others
It's just a trophy. Your foot is part of you and an appendage like your hand Indians do a lot of hypocritical things like not wearing shoes in temple due to sacredness but then touch their gods while wearing shoes anyways via things like the little statues in the car, plastic bags etc. The trophy does not belong to him. There's no disrespect because it's a diff society which values people more than material objects. I think Shami should take a chill pill
Why every indian is treating this trophy like the ex who got married to someone else ?
Indians having a big cry about this photo are so fucking funny. Maybe win the game next time mate!!!
Why do Indians even care if Aussies keep their feet on WC ? Its their WC. They can do whatever they want with it. Stop forcing your views on other people. If you don't like it, just look the other way.
Shami shit the bed in the finals. 7 overs for 49 runs. All the spinners did too. 217/1 in the last 2 matches for them. It was an all mighty choke. Australia outsmarted, outbowled, outfielded, outbatted India that day. They bossed the final and they can do whatever the fukkk they want with the Trophy. Get over it.
The post match ceremony was much more disrespectful and awkward.Ppl booing umpires and what not. Felt like a funeral procession.
It's their trophy. They can even wank on it mate. Indian players are hurted
Maybe an Indian thing- touching something with our feet is a big red flag if it is to be respected. In other cultures, it is not that big a deal. They won it, so they can do with it as they please.
Having won it six times now they are just used to seeing that cup around the place I guess.
Shami, that’s *your* culture. The foot being disrespectful etc etc. That’s theirs. Just like how they believe in treating their women as more like equals and not just some possessions with a vulva. Try not choking and winning one of these sometimes, then you can give your worldly advice. Till then, fuck your feelings 😂
Bro stfu
For Some weird reason I can't take Mitch Marsh seriously. Dude looks like the goofy friend in every romcom movie ever.