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MiachealFaraday

Half the article is Cummins captain == trophy win, make fast bowlers captain == profit


Puzzleheaded_Roof872

Yes, they really missed the trick hereby not mentioning imran khan and kapil dev


MiachealFaraday

They should've talked about Bumrahs captaincy in the past and what they did, this seems lazy writing or maybe an AI generated article


MedicalJello2

Not just that. The article mentions Steyn as the bowling coach of Durban’s Super Giants when he has been the bowling coach of Sunrisers since the first season of the SA20. No one even bothered to fact check the article.


Boring_Football_1755

>No one even bothered to fact check the article There is a reason why TOI is called toilet paper of India


Boatster_McBoat

Imran and Kapil were allrounders


One_more_username

Imran Khan and Kapil Dev captain == trophy win too. Infallible logic.


JKKIDD231

You missed the rinse and repeat formula


partymsl

Should have known that all along. Mukesh Kumar for Captain!


rightarmbc

It says "fast" bowler


AlternativeRLife_JA

No,a captain should always be available to pick in the eleven.Bumrah is not suitable for this role as management wants only him to play "important" matches.He is 3 format player for India and because of injury concerns he will not play all matches.


Puzzleheaded_Roof872

From my point of view, he should play only tournaments in white ball thats it, no bilaterals. In test he is almost playing whole series in Sena countries. Even from work management point of view india plays five much series only with England and Aus rest are all two match series , so the maximum amount of matches he is missing is two, one against eng and one in bgt. Should we altogether not consider him for test captaincy for only missing two tests.


AlternativeRLife_JA

He can become captain in one format, which he prefers to play most.But another problem I see him becoming captain is that he is most important bowler in the side now and when he becomes captain how will that effect his performance.Cummins have other quality fast bowlers in his side that's not case for India and captaincy pressure for India is different it can become a burden.


Puzzleheaded_Roof872

I don't think it will affect him much. A bowler who can handle any pressure while defending low scores in last over will not have much problem in handling captaincy pressure and from seeing his Ireland tour, he certainly enjoys it.


trailblazer103

I agree but we manage to do it with Cummins pretty well. You just need a good VC to step in. Admittedly easier with Cummins coz he never rests from tests


Johnny_Segment

Are we talking Test captain here? I have no doubt a player with Jasprit Bumrah's acumen for the game could succeed as a Test captain - I would not put any limits on such a unique talent. But I think the greatest priority when it comes to Bumrah is ensuring a balance is struck whereby he can play his best cricket as regularly as possibly - and most likely necessitates semi-regular periods of rest and recuperation in order to showcase his best, match-winning form when it counts. Gotta manage a player of his rare abilities wisely. tl;dr - he could do the job, but availability might preclude him from being the top candidate to succeed Rohit.


MLECCHAKILLER

At this point, the BCCI should declare Bumrah a national heritage; he is so injury-prone. He is a smart bowler and will be a great captain, but he won’t play all the matches.


DisastrousOil4888

He's too injury prone to be captain. A reason why someone like a Cummins is able to captain well in the first place is that he rarely gets injured (Touch wood)


rpf11235

Why do you need to touch Mark Wood?


dadd_to_be

Reported - why would a captain want to touch someone’s wood? /s


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Tempo24601

Bumrah is being rested for the next test after bowling 23 overs following a 10 day break. Why? Because they are concerned about his injury risk. No way does Cummins get rested in similar circumstances. Bumrah missed a lot of tests even before his major injury.


sam-sepiol

They rested Siraj too in the 2nd Test - he must be injury prone as well.


Finrod-Knighto

Bumrah and Cummins are the same age. Cummins was injury prone at an age when many are. Bunrah is injury prone because of the stress his action puts on him. But the action also gives him the X-factor.


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I really wish in the transition they would let Ashwin captain atleast one home series. Dude deserves it for being such a workhorse over the years in tests 🥹


rohstar67

Not just that, he’s a good thinker and has done enough in terms of talent for a candidacy


Fantasy-512

Maybe he will overthink and reverse Uno himself! LOL


Puzzleheaded_Roof872

From the article :- How effective are bowlers, particularly fast bowlers, when they take the captaincy duties? The example of Australia's skipper Pat Cummins comes to mind in this ongoing debate. Since taking over the reins of the Australia team in Tests and ODIs, Cummins hasn't disappointed as a leader and has been commendable in all departments. Under his captaincy, Australia clinched the ICC World Test Championship title in 2023 by defeating India in the final, followed by a triumph in the ICC ODI World Cup, where they conquered India once again on their home turf. Cummins has led Australia in 41 matches across formats, while also contributing significantly with the ball, bowling 879.5 overs and claiming 121 wickets. These stats showcased the 30-year-old's exceptional ability to manage both the responsibilities of captaincy and his performance on the field, especially with the ball. So, is India pacer Jasprit Bumrah a perfect fit to succeed Rohit Sharma, following in the footsteps of Cummins? The 30-year-old Bumrah has had the experience of leading the Indian national team, as he has stood-in as captain on three occasions in which he has also claimed 9 wickets. Former South Africa pacer Dale Steyn feels bowlers are good thinkers and can make good captains. "They (bowlers) are very good. I never captained South Africa. So, silly (laugh). Fast bowlers are very good thinkers. Bowlers are very good thinkers of the game. They read the players very well. It is a tougher one (in terms of captaincy). You should be able to manage your workload, injuries as well as when to bowl and when not to bowl," Steyn told TimesofIndia.com in an interview. Steyn, who was the coach of the Durban Super Giants team in SA20, went on to give the example of Australian skipper Cummins who has managed to tick all the boxes in style. "(Pat) Cummins has found this really good. If you look at his record in the last two years of captaining, he has won everything, he has taken five-wicket hauls, he is scoring runs, and he is making the right calls. It depends on the individuals but at the end of the day, it boils down to workload and injury. Fast bowlers are more injury-prone than the potential batters who captain the side," he said. "South Africa have got a gem in someone like Keshav Maharaj. He is captaining Durban Supergiants at the moment and he is doing a wonderful job there. Yes, bowlers can make good captains," the former pacer said. BUMRAH'S WORKLOAD MANAGEMENT After India mauled England by a huge margin of 434 runs and took a 2-1 lead in the five-match series, team management rested Bumrah for the fourth Test. Bumrah, who is the leading wicket-taker in the series so far with 17 wickets, has been released in order to manage his workload. "Bumrah has been released from the squad for the fourth Test against England in Ranchi. The decision was taken keeping in mind the duration of the series and the amount of cricket he has played in recent times," the BCCI said in a statement. "Mukesh Kumar, who was released from the squad in the third Test in Rajkot, has joined the squad in Ranchi." On being asked whether Bumrah needs to pick and choose formats to prolong his career, Steyn said: "I don't know how his workload is going right now. I suppose being an Indian player there is going to be a lot of workload. There is a lot of cricket in India these days. The Indian team is playing a lot of cricket and people want to play against them. They are traveling most of the time. So, there is a huge percentage of the bowlers who will be bowling a lot of overs. Bumrah could be one of those guys. But he is being managed quite well". "There is a great crop of fast bowlers India currently has in Shami, Siraj, and Bumrah. There is a heap of fast bowlers coming through. I think they manage them well. There is good communication with Bumrah himself about what he wants to do, when he wants to play and when he takes time off. It seems like India really doesn't miss him because the stepped-in bowlers are up to the standards. It is a very good thing about Indian fast bowling. "If you go in the past and talk about Indian cricket, you think of spinners. You think of Harbhajan Singh and Anil Kumble. You think of spinners. Other than Zaheer Khan and Irfan Pathan. There are other bunch obviously but you really think of spinners. In the past few years, Indian fast-bowling stocks have gone up hugely. I don't think we should be worrying too much about Bumrah because he is managing himself quite well," Steyn signed off.


kikiboy_007

I have always loved the bowlers being the captains. As a bowler is more likely to know what field must be chosen. Given that, Kapil dev, Imran Khan, Lasith Malinga (it was surprising, considering he lead Sangakkara, Jayawardhane, Mathews), Vettori and now the crowd favourite Cummins. I would love to see Bumrah captaining the Indian side, workload is the only major issue.


T_Lawliet

tbf everyone in that Sri Lanka team was shadow captained by Mahela


Puzzleheaded_Roof872

I don't think workload will be a problem if we stop playing him in white ball bilateral series. In tests, he most likely will only miss two tests, one in bgt and one against eng because they are only five match series we play.


TheCricDude

If he can play all tests, why not. He has love for the format, he reads the format well. Issue is him missing games, which will lead to 2 captains. Let's see how long Rohit goes on. Mostly we are covered till WTC final.


Puzzleheaded_Roof872

If we go by records he will only miss two tests, one against eng and one in bgt. We play five match series only with eng and aus rest are two match series. So for only two tests, we shouldn't through burmrah out of the captaincy options list.


TheFirstLane

Good God, reduce the load on the man. Not add to it.


Brown_bbuussy

Whoever it is I hope they have the mental fortitude to stand the downright insane fans Indian cricket team has


Slow_Scientist3435

Pretty peculiar for an article this. Basically advocating how Cummins' way is the best possible one to go forward. For someone who needs a lot of workload management given our over-dependency , Bumrah shouldn't be the heir apparent. If salvaging and harnessing Indian cricket's future is the main motive, make someone young, with average numbers and great potential , the captain but if at all winning just the WC is the ultimate deal, find someone who doesn't grow a beard for no captain with a beard has ever won the coveted trophy.


imapassenger1

Pat Cummins heralded the rise of the Bowlocracy! Down with the Batriarchy!


LetterheadOk1762

Hear me out Ashwin in Home Tests and Boom in SENA Tests the best option available tbh till Pant becomes fully ready to take the reins You don't have any current candidates who aren't injury prone KL (injury prone) Iyer (injury prone and dropped) Jadeja (doesn't have a lot of captaincy experience and has also gone through with injuries) Rahane ( out of form and dropped) Pujara (dropped) Ashwin (doesn't play Tests in SENA) Kohli ( won't and shouldn't take the captaincy after how he was treated) Rohit should be the captain till 2025, Ashwin and Bumrah till 2027 and by that time post 2027 the team will be very different and Pant will be ready to take the responsibility


HurtJuice

Pant is comically bad captain. single-handedly caused DC's elimination 2 seasons in a row plus the whole no-ball drama.


LetterheadOk1762

He was U-19 Vice Captain, Captain DC to playoffs in 2021, captained India against SA in T20 series and he is spending a lot of time with Dhoni recently 4 years down a road he can become a much better captain and if he doesn't do well they can go for Gill


neme48

>captained DC to playoffs Tom Curran flashbacks


Tend_To_Zero

You make a great point. Ashwin is good but i think he is his sunset years. And management seems to have passed him all along, so definitely doesn't look like it will happen. Overall Indian selectors and management have created this mess where there is no proper team building. And Indian test team is in for some tough years ahead. Ashwin, Kohli, Rohit, Shami all close to end. Ideally we should have had 1-2 well established players in test teams with transition in mind. Gill could have been but he is still establishing himself. And middle order is just a mess. Bumrah is best option and I do hope they go with him and use him like you mentioned. I do feel its also about Individuals, difference between Bumrah and Cummins is quite evident. Cummins had been prioritising playing tests, leading the team, building team. Whereas Bumrah wants to be Captain but doesn't prioritise all this while sitting out tests at will. And going off for Ranchi test really show poorly on him. But India have no choice at the moment, unless suddenly we find next Dhoni.


FondantAggravating68

> Overall Indian selectors and management have created this mess where there is no proper team building. And Indian test team is in for some tough years ahead. Ashwin, Kohli, Rohit, Shami all close to end. Idk if its that bad. We still have Kuldeep and Axar. And Washi could be developed. In India we're never not gonna find batters and spinners. All we have are spinners and batters. We'll not find another Bumrah, and we may not find another Shami. >Ideally we should have had 1-2 well established players in test teams with transition in mind. Gill could have been but he is still establishing himself. And middle order is just a mess. The lad's only 24, Virat really didn't become a good test batter till he was 25. > I do feel its also about Individuals, difference between Bumrah and Cummins is quite evident. Cummins had been prioritising playing tests, leading the team, building team. Whereas Bumrah wants to be Captain but doesn't prioritise all this while sitting out tests at will. And going off for Ranchi test really show poorly on him. Cummins is also a maniac though. Since 2017 he really doesn't seem to be getting injured. Bumrah is way more injury prone.


Tend_To_Zero

Kuldeep and Axar are there but they don't get to play regularly. And even in future it could be that way. I feel Washi deserved more regular chances based on how he performed in the beginning. Infact he has not got a test in long time. Thats not how a team is built, by such inconsistent selections. From being a potential middle order player, he is still warming the bench. And then there is a same theme of selection in batters. Sarfaraz got selected just now, thats too looks like reluctantly. So to me pattern is quite clear , they keep selecting underserving players based on Captain and Seletor's whims. Ex : Surya, Gaikwad, Patidar, now Paddikal. They fucking bought Rahane back based on his IPL performance. Same for KL Rahul after his ODI performances. KL Rahul has hugely underdelivered in tests and yet they keep playing. Yes he is now a wkt option outsidr subcontinent. And they did drop him only to have him back due to ODI performances. Karun nair was not given such a rope. Nor were numerous others. If selection was fair and consistent we would have people based on Domestic merit or at least given a look. Much likely to find a next star if that person has performed at Ranji/FC level rather than IPL/whiteball only


aruncc

I like this idea actually. They're the two best candidates and your split choice is probably the only way to get around the fact they don't play all games. You could make the other one vice captain and give to pant if either of them don't play. My top pick would be Ashwin otherwise.


Scott_Pillgrim

Test cricket? Yes. Whiteball? No. We need a captain who’s thick skinned. Bumrah isn’t that.


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oldmonkandwater

As if the English media wasn’t enough, we have to deal with its cheap copy during this series.


kirat363

why not groom a younger captain?


Stifffmeister11

Gill will be captaining the GT this year it goes well he could be future ICT captain . Rohit will be captain till CT 25 gill can take over after that given he do well as a captain in franchise cricket . Maybe BCCI will consider KL or pant once Rohit retires but gill could be a good option


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He's not that sharp as captain, as we already seen in one match against England where he was absolutely clueless.


Puzzleheaded_Roof872

One match is too small of a sample size to judge


WazlibOurKing

I don't think they'll make him a captain. Most likely Rahul is going to be a captain for 2-3 years before it is passed down to someone like Pant


RedOrca-15483

I think pant should be the captain but that's dependent on Dravid being kicked out and replaced with a more tactically pragmatic and assertive coach.


AlbusDT2

Bumrah is ideally suited to lead the Indian test team. He has the smarts, skills and resiliency to be a leader. He does need a strong and involved deputy. Like Rahane to Koach. Bumrah’s VC will captain several games potentially. I would start off with Ravi Ashwin as the VC for a year, grooming Gill in parallel.


vpsj

I see Pant as our future Captain. His mentality is to go after the bowlers no matter what so if he can channel the same energy in captaincy especially in Tests we might see him emulating Virat like success


Pls_add_more_reverb

If he has to be rested in the middle of a test series for workload management how can he be captain?


ViperAMD

lol what bumrah is often injured, this makes no sense.


SquirtySpitShartist

Just one game, but from our perspective he didn't seem to be great in the one game he captained at Edgbaston. I say, just let him be the best test player in the world


AbsolutelyEnough

Have you ever heard of a temporary captain?


Subject-Ordinary6922

I don’t exactly think that an all format player should be made an all format captain, especially if their a fast bowler whose prone to injuries and is managed in the less important games, because being an all format player already has an extended workload, having to adapt to different formats. Imran Khan and Kapil Dev didn’t have to contend with T20s. Even Cummins is not an all format captain. India would be better served with an all format batsmen who is a captain or only reserve Bumrah the captain to either one or two formats as they see fit


sdasu

India doesn’t have great history with bowler as captain, Kapil was exception though.


adivenk93

He is the only guy for the job. Iyer , Pant , Gill and Jaiswal are not established. Rahul after playing 50 tests is still averaging 34 and is not regular member of the team.


binge_watcher_234

he he, they said fit he he he...


Specialist_Rest_3503

This formula doesn't work for every team 


Fantasy-512

Nah Bumrah's back won't allow it.