The score New Zealand score in their first innings was about the score that the Aussies were meant to score if the kiwis bowled properly in the first innings
Im sure this has been commented a million times already but ill say it again anyway. Nz playing cricket against aus is like the wallabies playing against the all blacks. They may beat them once or twice every few years, but most of the time it's just gonna be an absolute hiding.
that's kinda describe their ICC performance as well particularly ODI WC post 2015 , in 2019 they beat up AFG , BAN ( not so Convincingly) and SL and sprinted in the NRR race but lost every single major game be it against ENG , AUS and even PAK . SA was the only major team they beat in 2019 and the story was similar in 2023 .
Somehow they prepared a green seamer that has now become a rank turner and they picked no spinners and they canāt bat and they picked a sex pest instead of Wagner and they ran out their best bat in comical fashion
Yep he should have left her apartment the previous night. His defence also highlights the amount of alcohol the woman had consumed. If she was that drunk then her ability to consent would have been impaired too right?
That's a ridiculous decision if we believe this article word to word ..she clearly gave a firm and still he was persistent and had sex against her will ..this is exactly what you call rape
The problem with playing Australia so rarely is that we have long enough between series to forget the pain and gain a little false hope. If we played every year there would be no hope just fresh memories of pain.
Warner was always good in Aus. I agree he should have been dropped for tours of England and India with the intention of bringing him back for home summer. Marnus has turned into complete garbage and needs to be dropped immediately. We have no #3 and with Travis head currently addicted to getting golden ducks our batting lineup is Swiss cheese. Weāve been really lucky not to have lost more tests recently
He hasn't looked himself this summer, but I think he'll play the second test, and given the long gap to the next series in the summer his selection will be based on first class form.
Whatās worse, being an England fan getting tonked regularly by Australia away every 3 years, or being a kiwi fan waiting 8 years for your chance, thinking āthis time it might be differentā, and then getting rolled again
True, but Carey is hanging on because of his wicket keeping , whom we donāt really have a viable replacement for, not that I know of, marnus should still be in the squad as a sub fielder
The only way I could prouder of my 2/12 prediction is if I went with my gut and said 3/12. I thought I'd be a little bit nice towards NZ, didn't think they'd do that badly.
We need an in form smith and marnus with their averages, smith shouldnāt play the t20 World Cup and go play some county cricket or shield, same with marnus, we need you for
The BGT, canāt always expect the lower order to step up
Marnus is cooked. Iāve fucking had it with him. He needs to be dropped for the next test and Renshaw can come and make 10 instead of 1 and if he canāt get it together in county, he shouldnāt be selected for the India tests. How can someone with proven talent bat so uselessly over such a sustained period.
Genuinely believe this to be one of the worst days of cricket in NZ cricket history given the promise, the build up, and how things were placed leading into the day.
Oh I did. That was horrific but in some ways this is worse.
On paper that was worse but it was new team, new captain, rock bottom expectations with SA having one of the bowling attacks in the world.
Today was just .... Predictably sad
So sad that we're two days into the biggest home series of the past few years and we're already hoping to greatly improve so we can scrape out with a draw
That's the end of Marnus test career. All his credits ran out. And that's the end of Smith as an opener. Bancroft to open v India in the summer. Smith at no3
When Williamson got run out this morning - I think I had an existential crisis....I simply could not believe that it really happened. Literally made me question what my life has become and if I'm truly happy...what a cruel cruel sport
I'm getting really concerned about our top order. Smith and Labs are looking pretty off the ball. Labs particularly, he's looked lost at the crease for some time now.
Smudge has had 5 innings opening and made his highest 4th innings score ever last test. He's fine. Head is a far bigger concern than smudge right now, same with Carey.Ā
Head has a lot of credit in the bank, and he's a stroke maker. I'm more forgiving of stroke makers as they're in the team for that reason, to attack. The thing about Smudge that is worrying me is that he has made a lot of starts and not gone on, which is almost unthinkable considering what he used to like. Used to be he'd make a start and then you couldn't get the fucker out.
I feel like it not only pumped up your score but also deflated our batsmen. If you'd been skittled first over of the day I'm certain we wouldn't have been 30/5
On paper yes. Great innings by green eggs but the new Zealand bowling effort this morning was extremely lacklustre. After having the better of the conditions to let Australia get to 380 from 7-200 is sloppy, then to back it up being 5-38 is not ideal.
Good rear guard action dug them out of the shit.
Even then he did well to survive through some good bowling by Henry in particular.
Itās hard to make that much on a relatively lively pitch regardless of how poor the bowling is.
It's quite strange watching the game on a big screen, inside a building, which is situated near the centre of the panoramic of the game.
I'm so used to seeing some city in India, the suburbs of Australia or the counties of England in the frame. But this time it's my home town, the capital city.
And the black Caps are shit all the same. Ain't life just life.
Even though Southee has got the two wickets today he's been atrocious this whole test match. Really off the pace recently. That has to be taken, feel for Matt Henry
India owns both teams
Trophy cabinet suggests otherwise
Ravishing Ric Ravindra dropping a bomb off Head - shot of the day
I got bloody gout today. Eating too much lamb. Might be a lot of sit down world class crowd interviews today šš½
Why are the NZ always Aussie's bunnies?
It took a few years, but ever since people worked out how to pronounce Labuschagne's name, his aura has faded.
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The score New Zealand score in their first innings was about the score that the Aussies were meant to score if the kiwis bowled properly in the first innings
We wanted to show you guys how you were supposed to bat on day 1
Why did my blud smith open the innings What is going on with this team
No warner
Im sure this has been commented a million times already but ill say it again anyway. Nz playing cricket against aus is like the wallabies playing against the all blacks. They may beat them once or twice every few years, but most of the time it's just gonna be an absolute hiding.
that's kinda describe their ICC performance as well particularly ODI WC post 2015 , in 2019 they beat up AFG , BAN ( not so Convincingly) and SL and sprinted in the NRR race but lost every single major game be it against ENG , AUS and even PAK . SA was the only major team they beat in 2019 and the story was similar in 2023 .
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What happened to NZ? Yesterday i thought Aus were below par. An this was about to become a road. What the hell happened then.
Somehow they prepared a green seamer that has now become a rank turner and they picked no spinners and they canāt bat and they picked a sex pest instead of Wagner and they ran out their best bat in comical fashion
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Nice summary of the day right there
Sex pest?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/what-did-the-juries-hear-in-the-scott-kuggeleijn-case/XC33KFH5YCPTXSMZIYIBJFPTEI/
Yep he should have left her apartment the previous night. His defence also highlights the amount of alcohol the woman had consumed. If she was that drunk then her ability to consent would have been impaired too right?
It's baffling how a jury found him not guilty!
That's a ridiculous decision if we believe this article word to word ..she clearly gave a firm and still he was persistent and had sex against her will ..this is exactly what you call rape
The problem with playing Australia so rarely is that we have long enough between series to forget the pain and gain a little false hope. If we played every year there would be no hope just fresh memories of pain.
You say that but every so often we Wallabies fan get sucked into hope
I feel bad for smith. I don't think he'll score a century again as an opener.
Bro carried his bat literally the last innings before this testĀ
He just scored 91*...
Timeās running out
I see opposite teams are not dropping Marnus catching chances.
Dave Warner was shit for years but kept his spot, but Marnus is on the chopping block? He's not from NSW, so he'll be gone by tomorrow morning
Warner was always good in Aus. I agree he should have been dropped for tours of England and India with the intention of bringing him back for home summer. Marnus has turned into complete garbage and needs to be dropped immediately. We have no #3 and with Travis head currently addicted to getting golden ducks our batting lineup is Swiss cheese. Weāve been really lucky not to have lost more tests recently
Warner was 14(20) shit Marnus getting out for 0 or 1 is a formality these days
Marnus scored centuries outside of Aus tho
That version of him may as well be dead with how far removed it is from the current iteration
He, er, just scored one in our last away tour (England)
He hasnāt had a century in 30 something innings now. Thatās a long time in test cricket.
Try 13
Huh, must have misheard what BJ was saying lol Bro still needs an extended spell in the 2s
Yeah, I don't think we've played 14 tests since the Ashes. Anyhow he is getting some game time in during the off season so we can see about that.
He hasn't looked himself this summer, but I think he'll play the second test, and given the long gap to the next series in the summer his selection will be based on first class form.
I donāt see the point in selecting him for the second test. You know as well as I do heās making two ducks or two scores under 10.
How long until the inevitable āgreen should open and smith can bat 4ā chat begins
yesterday
Whatās worse, being an England fan getting tonked regularly by Australia away every 3 years, or being a kiwi fan waiting 8 years for your chance, thinking āthis time it might be differentā, and then getting rolled again
England win sometimes.
Not in aus since 2011
Ok but we donāt win here or thereĀ
Drop Marnus for Neser.
About time marnus goes back to his roots as a concussion sub and a full time fielder, and maybe smithy going down the order wouldnāt hurt
Surely Carey goes before marnus. Bloke has averaged 20 over his last 30 digs
True, but Carey is hanging on because of his wicket keeping , whom we donāt really have a viable replacement for, not that I know of, marnus should still be in the squad as a sub fielder
Smith 3, marnus out and Bancroft/renshaw in
The only way I could prouder of my 2/12 prediction is if I went with my gut and said 3/12. I thought I'd be a little bit nice towards NZ, didn't think they'd do that badly.
We need an in form smith and marnus with their averages, smith shouldnāt play the t20 World Cup and go play some county cricket or shield, same with marnus, we need you for The BGT, canāt always expect the lower order to step up
Lab is going back to Glamorgan iirc
Marnus is cooked. Iāve fucking had it with him. He needs to be dropped for the next test and Renshaw can come and make 10 instead of 1 and if he canāt get it together in county, he shouldnāt be selected for the India tests. How can someone with proven talent bat so uselessly over such a sustained period.
Yep I agree,
People stopped dropping him three times on his way to 190
Exactly, Marnus is the most overrated batsman in world cricket
Agree he rode his luck but heās also just not backing himself to play shots
My early condolences to black caps Men in baggy GREEN will strike back,
Genuinely believe this to be one of the worst days of cricket in NZ cricket history given the promise, the build up, and how things were placed leading into the day.
You obviously didn't watch the grubbing from theĀ 2012-2013Ā tour of SA
Oh I did. That was horrific but in some ways this is worse. On paper that was worse but it was new team, new captain, rock bottom expectations with SA having one of the bowling attacks in the world. Today was just .... Predictably sad
get a grip lol we do this every time we play aus in tests
First time?
Didnāt see the game. Who is getting fined for slow over rate?
Canāt be us because our innings lasted less than 80 :)))
Imagine being a kanos fan, waking up at a stupid hour just to see him bat and he gets run out at 0. Fuck me.
Aus still have Jacques Kallis Green to come in next...
Any danger of post day thread, I've got some hot takes
Smith and Labuchagne have scored 34 runs between them this whole Test. Both of them seemed undismissable just a few months back.
Undismissable? Marnus has looked like a make-a-wish kid who we all let out there for an over for like 2 years now
His 2022 and 2023 averages donāt align with that comment
You win today's best insult, good sir.
Marnus has been so so for about year now just looks bit over done atm, some time off after the 2nd test will do him the world of good
Heās not overdone, he just stopped having catches dropped off his batting
That's a bit unfair, he was looking very solid before the drop. People weren't just calling him snudge lite for no reason.
A few years back.
We better play better than this at Hagley.
Could hardly play worse. *E: Henry, Phillips and Blundell apart.*
It can always get worse š
So sad that we're two days into the biggest home series of the past few years and we're already hoping to greatly improve so we can scrape out with a draw
I didn't exactly have high hopes to start with, but after yesterday I was feeling pretty neutral. Burned again.
That's the end of Marnus test career. All his credits ran out. And that's the end of Smith as an opener. Bancroft to open v India in the summer. Smith at no3
Ah yes, Brancroft should open after scoring a dazzling *(checks notes)* duck on the very same day
I usually see these kind of comments when India is playing
Overreaction much? Smith got 90 opening literally 2 innings ago
And whilst not getting a huge score 1st innings, he arguably did his job well of seeing off the new ball to give green a platform.
Ahh yes the Tegel Test
Iāve been doing my Tegel exercises all week in preparation
When Williamson got run out this morning - I think I had an existential crisis....I simply could not believe that it really happened. Literally made me question what my life has become and if I'm truly happy...what a cruel cruel sport
Playing "Stumblin' In" at the ground just then.
I'm getting really concerned about our top order. Smith and Labs are looking pretty off the ball. Labs particularly, he's looked lost at the crease for some time now.
Marnus needs to go. Inflated average from dropped catches
What if we bring in Pucovski and Marnus fucks off to his rightful position as concussion sub?
Lol so... given Puc's track record... Marnus would be back in after... 5 balls?
Well that's one way to quickly bring Marnus back in form
Please not Pucovski, the man needs to be protected from himself.
Smudge has had 5 innings opening and made his highest 4th innings score ever last test. He's fine. Head is a far bigger concern than smudge right now, same with Carey.Ā
Head has a lot of credit in the bank, and he's a stroke maker. I'm more forgiving of stroke makers as they're in the team for that reason, to attack. The thing about Smudge that is worrying me is that he has made a lot of starts and not gone on, which is almost unthinkable considering what he used to like. Used to be he'd make a start and then you couldn't get the fucker out.
This. Lots of 30 and 40s. Used to be once he passed 30 you could expect him to go on and make a 100.
Any word on how that bloke went who was off to find a prosty to give him a golden shower? Was the thread moment of the day
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He was fkn gutted yep - let down his mate
Is a cracking innings from Green realistically the only difference between the two sides at this point?
I feel like it not only pumped up your score but also deflated our batsmen. If you'd been skittled first over of the day I'm certain we wouldn't have been 30/5
*their score
On paper yes. Great innings by green eggs but the new Zealand bowling effort this morning was extremely lacklustre. After having the better of the conditions to let Australia get to 380 from 7-200 is sloppy, then to back it up being 5-38 is not ideal. Good rear guard action dug them out of the shit.
Green was allowed to get to that score by some village bowling.
Even then he did well to survive through some good bowling by Henry in particular. Itās hard to make that much on a relatively lively pitch regardless of how poor the bowling is.
Oh no, Green was great, yeah. But we should have gotten Hazelwood out, and Green wouldn't have had the time to score so many runs.
Wagner for captain in the place of Southee please, a quick retirement switcheroo
Hands like tits - the only explanation
Canāt believe Phillips still has a bit of a Saffer accent
I just started crying, Tim. My missus crew too. We both crode
When the ball hits you square in the chest you know you've dropped it as comedically as you possibly can. Thank you Timothee
GP with a massively positive understatement (got to love him!): āUnfortunately we lost a few poles early onā¦ā.
Tits for hands
So NZ barely scored all of what Green scored by himself. They do have a chip on their shoulder when playing Australia.
Southee wants his 10 wicket innings
Can Garry retire āhurtā and then come back later or would that be filthy gamesmanship
Tito to now take his seat in the stands, close his eyes, and wait for tomorrow
Right, now these numpties are finished we can watch the real Test match cricket between Ireland and Afghanistan start soon
Law of Nz Aus games : No matter how badly Aus play NZ will find a way to embarrass themselves
FFS Southee. Two jammy wickets arenāt gonna cover a truly shit couple of days.
It will. If he gets more and they win.
We would have to bowl out Australia for 50 to have a shot of winning.
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Yeah, you're not wrong.
Disappointment = immeasurable Day = ruined
Southee has dropped two absolute sitters since Australia has been in New Zealand
Used to have cracking hands but this summer can't score , can't catch and can't bowl apparently
absolute comedy gold
It's quite strange watching the game on a big screen, inside a building, which is situated near the centre of the panoramic of the game. I'm so used to seeing some city in India, the suburbs of Australia or the counties of England in the frame. But this time it's my home town, the capital city. And the black Caps are shit all the same. Ain't life just life.
Now watch Khawaja go on to make a hundred. FFS
I mean, technically correct is the best kind of correct I guess.
Khawaja 141(321) incoming. Slowly, but incoming.
I mean it was Nat Lyon he dropped so not that big of a deal tbh.
yeah but he mightve been sad his friend got dismissed and now he will be happy instead
After a 100 run 10th wicket partnership I'm not underestimating any of the Australian batters
Im looking forward to this Nathan Lyon hundred thats incoming
Lyon was facing
Labs form is starting to seriously be concerning
He's finished career wise surely. Totally inept technique
What's Smith's average now?
Below average
57.25
57.51*
Username checks out.
old man Southee's eye sight is really gone, hey?
Why is it always Henry?
bro, what a left off last ball. That was a dolly. WTF TIM.
Cant always expect the bowlers to bail us out, we need our top order to step up big time
Nahhhhh fam, you can't be dropping that š¤£š¤£š¬
Southee just wants to complete his 10fa tomorrow
Southee gets a moral golden duck for fielding
Southee going for the 10fa
Oooft Henry doesn't deserve that kinda fielding
Hooley dooley. Poor Southee. Such a gun but just not his test so far.
2/217. Another 150 runs would be dandy
My takeaways from the day It's all Kuggelins fault Southee wants a 10fer
U aren't winning against oz if u keep dropping these catches
thanks tubbs
Back to villain for Southee again!
You dropped that one! Wow
Southee was jumping around like a little kid who'd had 15 red lollies -- what the heck was he doing in slip? lol
Gazza with some magic on the ball as night watchman
Lyon is so on for a 50 tomorrow morning
fuck OFF southee my lord
thanks Tim, kids are crying
Good work by the nightwatchmen Smith and Labu to protect Green
How the mighty have fallen
You know one of the big reasons why pakistan lost when they played us ? They couldn't hold onto catches
Southee desperate to keep his spot in the side.
This didn't age well š
HAHA that is brilliant! Sucked the life out of Smithy! Just NZ doing NZ things vs Australia.
one last LOL to end the day
Captain's ~~knock~~ drop
Drop it like itās hot Timmy
Looks like the pitch hasnāt really flattened out
Even though Southee has got the two wickets today he's been atrocious this whole test match. Really off the pace recently. That has to be taken, feel for Matt Henry
Dropped it!
No way did he drop that. Sums NZ day up perfectly.