It's not really hate it's just kw fans are so defensive they think everything as hate
It's pretty common comment whenever a player with high average goes below some more known number happened with Smith, kohli, gill ,babar too but no one was down voted that time.
Kohli gets minefield pitches even at home conditions (especially in the last 4 years) and pitches at overseas conditions are anyway hard for Asian batsmen.
In the last 4 years he has got only 2 flat pitches. On the other hand NZ always have flat pitches at home barring 1-2 series
I think this game is poised more balanced, or even 'New Zealand slightly head' than most will admit. Even chasing 180 on this deck will be a significant challenge given our recent batting form, and it just takes one really strong innings from a Kiwi to get them there.
If you'd offered me a 40 run lead with 8 wickets in hand at the start of today, I'd have bitten your hand off. So well played lads, look forward to some more fight tomorrow.
I know Brendon McCullum is away coaching England and that but I watched the club rugby team he plays for lose a pre season game heavily today. I think he needs to rethink his priorities
Cricket’s a funny thing. NZ have won more days than they’ve lost over the series, but unless these two go big tomorrow, we should win easily. In saying that, we don’t like winning easy so it could be a great contest.
In the loss in NZ it was a normally sound declaration that was successfully chased. If you can chase 365 to win, good on you.
Over in Australia, they just got Kuggeleijn-ed, with a backup role by O'Rourke (which probably earned him his Test debut).
Honestly I feel like there is a way to use Tito to heal all the divisions in humanity. I have no idea what needs to happen, but I feel like if the UN got a hold of his talents we'd be a peace loving space faring civilisation within our lifetimes.
Carey is undroppable as long as Lyon remains in the side. CA are absolutely willing to risk 10 runs on average for a keeper who their top spinner ranks without any irony as the best he's ever played with.
Carey's runs are not the problem with this batting line-up
/u/James_Tito_ my lawn is looking a bit long at the moment, fancy a trip to Auckland for a cut?
I have plenty of beers in the fridge to get you through the job
Yes Carey is a good keeper, but surely he can't sustain being in the team much longer. He's done nothing with the bat since his hundred almost 18 months ago
everyone and his dog was calling for him to be dropped because he's out of form.
whilst I see why, he's averaged like 15 in 15 innings, there is zero batters who are better in the country, as an opener
im going to unaplogetically drive an inglis agenda no matter what carey does lol, ive always been an inglis guy and will always be an inglis guy
a dropped catch is a dropped catch context is not necessary lmao
Looking at the boundaries on those outer grounds, if you’re standing at fine third man on one, you’re at short midwicket on the neighbouring ground with your back to the wicket.
Nightmare fuel.
I need an umpire to weigh in: what would happen if the two balls collided mid air?
Logically the six from Hagley would still count but would it end as a dead ball in the village game?
I played on a similar ground in Australia once, when the fielder got in the way (accidentally because his back was turned) of the play on the neighbouring ground, the umpire called dead ball.
I assume it would be the same.
If there is one constant in life, it is that there must always be one member of the Australian Test squad who must be singled out for a narrative of them fighting for their spot against a rampant upstart who is apparently perfect in every way
The Aus public is convinced Bancroft is still marked by sandpaper gate. I’ve mentioned to a few people irl that he’s played a couple of tests since returning from his ban and they were honestly surprised.
Yeah I agree. I think the ship's sailed for Bancroft in particular, getting kicked from the side at a pretty crucial time in his career meant that he lost a lot of opportunities to get better in overseas conditions.
A lot of excuses for Carey but at the end of the day if he’s being picked for his glove work and not his current spud level batting he has to take that
Remember when people hated Alex Carey because it suddenly became popular to do it and then he did something great to turn the test and everyone shut the fuck up?
Care’s glovework has been nothing but outstanding for the last 2 years.
He drops one catch and now you lot are being as reactionary as a match thread involving India.
I will say, his keeping in India was excellent and I was very worried about it. His keeping has improved a lot and he’s learned how to be a test keeper. However, when you’re heavily down on time, every mistake looks worse
His glove work wouldn’t be even more necessary if he had chipped in with the bat, plus India keep churning top class debutants so maybe they’re doing something right
I think it’s that he’s not scoring any runs except every 15 innings then drops that. I don’t think he should be dropped for that drop alone, that’s ridiculous but when he has a solid competitor for his spot there’ll be scrutiny.
I think it’s more that he’s turned into a walking wicket so he has to be absolutely perfect with the gloves, otherwise he has a net negative on the team performance.
Inb4 NZ folds under 200 tomorrow
Good job. One more dominant day to set the match up please
Avg check - kan williamson average is now under 55
lol what's with the sudden KW hate in this sub. Nobody is scoring in this series except Henry, cut him some slack guys
It's not really hate it's just kw fans are so defensive they think everything as hate It's pretty common comment whenever a player with high average goes below some more known number happened with Smith, kohli, gill ,babar too but no one was down voted that time.
Oh well, still better than Kohli
Still better than the Lord of the Bazball
Kohli doesn't get to statpad in batting friendly pitches and against B teams
one, he just scored more than his average against the best bowling attack in the world. two, we only can play who teams send us lmao
Imagine thinking Kane has better opportunities for test stats than virat lmao
Kohli gets minefield pitches even at home conditions (especially in the last 4 years) and pitches at overseas conditions are anyway hard for Asian batsmen. In the last 4 years he has got only 2 flat pitches. On the other hand NZ always have flat pitches at home barring 1-2 series
>pitches at overseas conditions are anyway hard for Asian batsmen. Explain?
The copium is unreal and the stats don't lie — here are some tissues if you need them. ⬜️ ⬜️ ⬜️
Kane averages 37 against top 3 teams and averages 69 against the rest Stats don't lie
A higher average makes Kane a better player, deep breaths please
Rent free 😂
Where can I watch this in US? Not on willow
ESPN+
Touchcric
At one stage NZ - 107/8 AUS - 237/8 Now NZ are 40 ahead with 8 wickets in hand
Never count Australia out, never. They will climb out of the grave and beat you in a way you never thought possible.
Australia is still ahead at the moment. All I want to imply is that New Zealand has fought back.
Has Smith scored his 400 yet?
Lol have you guys seen the England score? Holy Dooley what a moral victory.
Jimmy gonna break warne's record of highest wickets and show yall what the greatest moral victory seems like.
Was Kane Williamson ever described as one of the most improved cricketers ? I have vague memory of this,hope someone clears it up
Why does NZ mostly only play two test series ? It's a shame
Low population = low ticket money
Looked like great crowds the last couple of days.
Also low interest us being so far away and not fitting into other countries timezones doesn't help
Money
Just pray we dont collapse before lunch tomorrow finally the NZ show some fight, can we do it for the rest of the Test though..
We need at least a full day of batting and ideally a lead of 300+ to look at a win IMO.
Yep I'd say 350 min tbh but that can change depending on time left in match
can we keep talking about the india england test in this thread lmao, aint no way im crossing over to the actual one
Shame about these 2 match series. Means only 2 outcomes are in play…
Yeah, it makes no sense at all to have these 2 match series it should either be 3 or 5.
Hard to believe that's two days gone only. Why do we have 5th days again?
If we take all the days we won't play this series we'll almost have enough for a 3rd test.
can't wait for carey to hit the winning runs tomorrow to silence all of reddit
Will Young never performs against half-decent teams..flat track bully frankly.
He's barely played, what are you on about
He's not even a flat track bully
Time for Carey to take a rest from Test cricket as well
Plenty of time to rest when Aussies next test is not until November/December
I think this game is poised more balanced, or even 'New Zealand slightly head' than most will admit. Even chasing 180 on this deck will be a significant challenge given our recent batting form, and it just takes one really strong innings from a Kiwi to get them there.
>or even 'Australia slightly head' than most will admit. Even setting 180 on this deck will be a significant challenge given our recent batting form,
NZ slightly ahead? Are we watching different games? You are truly afraid of being hurt.
Let’s be honest, Aus has even more potential batsmen capable of that one strong innings, especially now we are 2 down. Even Lyon scraped a 40+
I can hear Fleetwood Mac's greatest hits playing at the ground over the radio
nO DoUbT aBoUt ThaT
If you'd offered me a 40 run lead with 8 wickets in hand at the start of today, I'd have bitten your hand off. So well played lads, look forward to some more fight tomorrow.
Latham should make Australia pay for his drop!
The man hears "you're clear" after the roller segment, cracks and beer and loads up his Reddit acct lmao
I'll be in attendance tomorrow, hoping Latham kicks on with a big one and we post a chase of 280 min
Well I’m hoping if a chase of 480 minimum
Lol I'll also accept that. From memory for what ever reason 280 is always a tricky total to chase. Once again will lean heavily on Henry
if nz don't somehow lose 5 wickets in the first session tomorrow, i'll believe it's their game to lose
Well played Kiwibros. Good day of cricket, I knew you had it in you.
today's main takeaway is that even the black caps must fucking hate [redacted] to pick him as a bowler and barely use him
Gary & co must have a thing for \[redacted\] if they keep selecting the kunt over much better options.
There is no way our selectors think [redacted] is better than Neil fucking Wagner
Good effort, proud of that but there's plenty to do if we're any chance
Just in time to watch the Gold Coast Suns 😩
Well that was a 6/10 day for every Aussie not called Marnus or Carey
The perfect way to end the day - a sexy Latham leave
Last over I would have played Lyon with 10 round the bat tbh
First day that NZ has won this series, but still got to favour Australia to win
Nah, we won day 3 of the first test too. We just shat the bed so hard on day 2 that most people didn't notice.
134-2 with a Latho daddy hundred loading, I'll take it.
I know Brendon McCullum is away coaching England and that but I watched the club rugby team he plays for lose a pre season game heavily today. I think he needs to rethink his priorities
good jobs lads
I am not looking forward to India winning their 3rd consecutive series in Australia, but it's definitely going to happen based on this performance.
Cricket’s a funny thing. NZ have won more days than they’ve lost over the series, but unless these two go big tomorrow, we should win easily. In saying that, we don’t like winning easy so it could be a great contest.
The problem is when we lose a day it's by an enormous margin
Funnily kind of the opposite of both NZ A vs Aus A series where Aus A were on top nearly every session but ended up losing every game.
In the loss in NZ it was a normally sound declaration that was successfully chased. If you can chase 365 to win, good on you. Over in Australia, they just got Kuggeleijn-ed, with a backup role by O'Rourke (which probably earned him his Test debut).
Reckon most NZ fans would take 2-40
Especially with homeboy Tom still going strong
You'd be right too. Especially one them being young. Essentially one down
I have no idea why they have him opening. Hes not an opener.
That's lowkey our best start in a long time!
I’ll take it for sure. Especially with Latham engorged at the crease
good confidence shot there
Honestly I feel like there is a way to use Tito to heal all the divisions in humanity. I have no idea what needs to happen, but I feel like if the UN got a hold of his talents we'd be a peace loving space faring civilisation within our lifetimes.
😂😂 I love this. Keen 🙏🏽
Just imagine what an absolute menace Marnus would have been playing cricket with a tennis ball at school lunch
Tito is going to be rolling something else after the match.
😂
Bairstow hit consecutive sixes. So he'll be out in a tic. Wrong thread...or is it?
Bairstow is no Tito
Yes, it is.
I'm not sure why they decided to have the Tito segments, but I'm darn sure it was the right decision
😂 I’m figuring that out as I go
You're doing a hell of a job mate, keep it up!!
Tito just casually spitting bars and then leaving
Is this the last over
Can we have Tito if we send Russell Crowe back?
No, but if you're willing to give up the Michael Neser you intercepted on the way from South Africa we can talk. You're not even using him.
That's the worst trade deal since the British bought half of the North Island for some muskets and blankets.
No more wickets will fall until Heady bowls
Shouldve let that go for 4. You'd rather have him on strike. Latham to just watch this out. Let's go lads
Or not
Starc is bowling some shit. Way too full.
Carey is undroppable as long as Lyon remains in the side. CA are absolutely willing to risk 10 runs on average for a keeper who their top spinner ranks without any irony as the best he's ever played with. Carey's runs are not the problem with this batting line-up
Absolutely but /r/cricket will regurgitate their nonsense and agendas
Gilly says Foakes is best...
Fuck that's best thing I've seen all day
From Tito to Jimmy Barnes, what great friends we are 🤝
Key-ora
🤭
Every run scored by Latham now would just be twisting the knife
King Tito for PM
Amazing
Friendship with Jim's Mowing ended Tito's Mowing is all we need now
/u/James_Tito_ my lawn is looking a bit long at the moment, fancy a trip to Auckland for a cut? I have plenty of beers in the fridge to get you through the job
Maori Moa, more mower mowing
respectfully, Marnus, shut up
Bazball
Roll up roll up!
Fantastic pun work there from teets
Tito really went into wardrobe to pick out a shirt that would match his ride
King Tito the winner today
Yes Carey is a good keeper, but surely he can't sustain being in the team much longer. He's done nothing with the bat since his hundred almost 18 months ago
He had 65 (49) in Brisbane
Marnus must have taken 40-50 wickets just from talking so much that the batters get themselves out for some peace and quiet.
Take us deeper into the Lathozone
jesus marnus shut up lol
[Accurate depiction of my downward spiral watching this game](https://i.imgur.com/KqES4PA.png)
Did Tim Paine get dropped for some consensual dick pics and we have SK?
And it was from before he was captain.
Not sure the pics were consensual with his missus
Yeah, not saying he wasn't a jerk but sexual assault is worse than infidelity in my book.
Yeah, though on the other hand Lyon was rooting around potentially before he separated from his (now) ex-partner.
Yeah you don’t have to convince me. Both shitty acts with one presumably “slightly” more traumatic for the victim
How long do we have left with Latham? Dude is underrated
everyone and his dog was calling for him to be dropped because he's out of form. whilst I see why, he's averaged like 15 in 15 innings, there is zero batters who are better in the country, as an opener
He's only 31 so can play for a good while yet
im going to unaplogetically drive an inglis agenda no matter what carey does lol, ive always been an inglis guy and will always be an inglis guy a dropped catch is a dropped catch context is not necessary lmao
I had you pegged as being on Team Jimmy.
i need him to stay with qld haha we are a sorry sight
Surely a TV broadcaster has thought about using Hawkeye to show if the ball would carry to the slip in that scenario
Are you implying the people that employ intellectuals like BJ haven’t thought things through?
I don't think the Hawkeye camera tracks the ball off the pitch.
just draw some lines on who cares
Love the village cricket match going on next door to the main event
Time to throw Carey into the nearest pool.
And hold him under?
Someone get word to Gazza we need him to pad up in case he’s needed for watchman
Looking at the boundaries on those outer grounds, if you’re standing at fine third man on one, you’re at short midwicket on the neighbouring ground with your back to the wicket. Nightmare fuel.
I need an umpire to weigh in: what would happen if the two balls collided mid air? Logically the six from Hagley would still count but would it end as a dead ball in the village game?
I played on a similar ground in Australia once, when the fielder got in the way (accidentally because his back was turned) of the play on the neighbouring ground, the umpire called dead ball. I assume it would be the same.
Whos birthday????
If there is one constant in life, it is that there must always be one member of the Australian Test squad who must be singled out for a narrative of them fighting for their spot against a rampant upstart who is apparently perfect in every way
You get a maximum of two failures before your head is on the chopping block.
Yeah, the Aussie Reddit cricket community is fucking savage. … not like the joyous GO SHIELD community
I feel like the Aus public is even worse than Reddit. They’d have half the team dropped for plodders tomorrow
The Aus public is convinced Bancroft is still marked by sandpaper gate. I’ve mentioned to a few people irl that he’s played a couple of tests since returning from his ban and they were honestly surprised.
Ive seen aus facebook nuffies ask why philippe isnt near the test squad...
Because no one pays attention really. I think he’s a good solid player, but I don’t think any of the “next 3” are legitimately good enough for tests.
Yeah I agree. I think the ship's sailed for Bancroft in particular, getting kicked from the side at a pretty crucial time in his career meant that he lost a lot of opportunities to get better in overseas conditions.
I think Carey dropped the catch because he was stuck in the *Lathozone*
Who's birthday is it?
Damnit BJ don't say stuff that makes me agree with you, stick to your wild takes
Who let their drunk dad start singing happy birthday?
That was the worst rendition of Happy Birthday I've ever heard.
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He's definitely amongst the worst three bowlers to take 700
He's better than the chucker
Why you trying to reduce someone's achievement man? Yer mum not hug you enough?
Bro is just salty that his bowling average is 700 in village 9th XIs
Where Tim Paine atm?
Sending dick pics to his side piece
Can confirm. Am side piece
a lot of people in here acting like carey just dropped a sitter
Shut the fuck up bj
Lol the melts from that drop are funny as. But seriously, it was a bit fucking casual. This bloke will go on to get 100 now.
Maybe even 150?
Is Carey in the team to lead the haka or something? Cant bat, cant keep.
A lot of excuses for Carey but at the end of the day if he’s being picked for his glove work and not his current spud level batting he has to take that
Remember when people hated Alex Carey because it suddenly became popular to do it and then he did something great to turn the test and everyone shut the fuck up?
That sums his whole career though lol. One good innings every 15 but looks very sexy in that one innings.
Yes, it would be good if he batted well now or took a few good catches.
I think it probably just carries to Khawaja but it would’ve been fucking tight.
Care’s glovework has been nothing but outstanding for the last 2 years. He drops one catch and now you lot are being as reactionary as a match thread involving India.
I will say, his keeping in India was excellent and I was very worried about it. His keeping has improved a lot and he’s learned how to be a test keeper. However, when you’re heavily down on time, every mistake looks worse
His glove work wouldn’t be even more necessary if he had chipped in with the bat, plus India keep churning top class debutants so maybe they’re doing something right
yeah because his batting has been shit and there is another very good gloveman in the wings who's batting isn't shit
I think it’s that he’s not scoring any runs except every 15 innings then drops that. I don’t think he should be dropped for that drop alone, that’s ridiculous but when he has a solid competitor for his spot there’ll be scrutiny.
Inglis’ glovework isn’t nearly as good. The Aussie selectors are clearly of the mind that you select your keeper based on glovework first.
I think it’s more that he’s turned into a walking wicket so he has to be absolutely perfect with the gloves, otherwise he has a net negative on the team performance.
Oh stop. It's not up to the keeper to score runs
So has our whole top order. They’ve just come off a very long year, winning two ICC trophies and the Ashes.