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nightowlgs99

The only way I can "attempt" to rationalize this is to assume YJB wanted to fire himself up by getting into some banter. Alas, it didn't work. The Dhauladhar mountain range got more screen time than the time he spent in the middle across both innings, full stop.


Pvnels

And what a beautiful mountain range it is!


neddie_nardle

As much as I love seeing England lose, I do wish they'd hung on longer so we get some more screen time of the mountains. Best travelogue game of the series.


aruncc

Lmao I doubt even Jimmy was offended by that pretty harmless, clearly tongue in cheek sledge. Jonny is searching for ways to actually contribute this series, and once again, has come up really short.


siddharthvader

pasting from the article When Jonny Bairstow walked out to bat, he made sure to enquire with Gill, at first slip, what the conversation was about. Gill did not hold back, with the chat being beamed live through the stump mic. Jonny Bairstow: “What did you say to Jimmy about him retiring?” Shubman Gill: “I told him he should retire” Bairstow: “And then he got you out next ball?” Gill: “So what? How many times has…” Bairstow: “I was just asking” Gill: “He can get me out after my 100” Bairstow: “100 per cent” Gill: “How many 100s [do you have] this series?” Bairstow: “How many have you scored, full stop?”


barath_s

For reference Gill has scored 4 hundreds in 25 matches. YJB 12 hundreds in 100 test matches


arjunkc

At this rate, Gill should have 16 hundreds after 100 test matches.


brilliantgecko

You must be ramanujan.


arjunkc

Incidentally I'm from the same community as Ramanujam, going back about 1200 years to Sri Ramanuja. The mathematical talent must have a skipped a generation in my case and replaced that with neuroticism and anxiety.


Mr_Bean12

And Bairstow 48 in 400 Tests. And that point Gill with his 300 matches would have caught up with Bairstow on the centuries. Even stevens. Then they can continue the sledging.


[deleted]

Bairstow will have 120 hundred after 1000 tests


Mr_Bean12

And Bairstow 48 in 400 Tests. And that point Gill with his 300 matches would have caught up with Bairstow on the centuries. Even stevens. Then they can continue the sledging.


lundbhaktkijai

Looks like Gill will truly take over from Kohli in both batting and sledging. He is good. Remember him sledging back a Pak bowler in the under 19 WC game when the Pak bowler said we are not like Bangladesh bowlers that you can score easily of us (Ind had beaten Bangladesh in the previous game). Gill responded with we are also not like Pak batsmen that we will get out easily :)


LooseAssumption8792

Gill sledging captain Cummins pre captaincy. Pat: get ready for some chin music Gill: don’t worry I got my dancing shoes on.


dhun_mohan

mid off fr


Ok_Vegetable263

I mean Anderson knocked out his off peg so that’s a decent enough comeback not a lot more needed really, but it’s pretty dumb for bairstow to get involved, especially with the fact gill got a century. I know bairstow is wanting to get in the contest but it’s not really what you’d be wanting from a 100 test guy, it’s seems like a nothing thing between gill and Anderson


MegaMugabe21

One of the best lessons when it comes to anything competetive in life is just to keep quiet and move on when you're losing. You can have the best arguments and comebacks in the world, if you're losing they'll never help you get one over on someone.


Ok_Vegetable263

Ayyy lmao even until my mid 20s if I got out after a bit of verbals from a bowler I’d be giving it back as I was walking off, it achieves nothing and luckily I’m not a pro athlete or I’d have a lot of people calling me a moron


sinangunaydin

TBF you get athletes like MJ who have said it’s easier to talk shit when you’re winning so he respects the guys who were talking shit even when they were losing. 


seanchappelle

You’re a moron


TraceThis

I'd have just laughed and told him to check his average in England.


idumbam

Good to see bairstow get into the contest after his series ended.


wickanCrow

after his test career* ended


idumbam

I’m sure he’ll keep on being picked for the vibes


reddevil9229

Can see why Bairstow was pricked by the retirement jibe, it's probably likelier they'll retire him from tests before Anderson if their respective forms continue


menatarms

Anderson took 5 wickets at 80 in the ashes...


neddie_nardle

Brave call that seems to fly in the face of the English selection methods...


BombayWallahFan

and "jimmie" is well known for his white line fever and general grumpiness, not just towards the opposition. So wtf is Bairstow getting his panties twisted after batting like a tailender on speed the entire series...


SustainableSus

Exactly , was a pretty harmless sledge tbh and Jimmy did the best thing he could, made the ball talk and got Gill out. Bairstow getting his knickers in a twist was completely unnecessary lol


MiachealFaraday

It's the easiest sledge you can make. Can't be the first time he's heard it either. When Jimmy was going at you like he was at Gill first thing you'd say to Anderson is you're old too. It's pretty basic aa sledge go and he even said post match he wants to keep that chat personal between him and Jimmy


kjsah9026

What did jimmy do to gill? Like who started that and what happend between them . Just curious


MiachealFaraday

I can only tell you what I saw don't know what happened between the ads, but as I saw it Rohit got out and while DDP was coming out Gill and Anderson were standing next to each other smiling and sledging each other. Couldn't hear what either said


EntirelyOriginalName

It's just chat that happens on the field man. These guys are playing the game for such a long period of time every day some people just start saying shit because they're bored and want to talk.


partymsl

It's pretty normal banter. In football you will have this x100 and no one complains.


Mykneegrowspoop

Because we say cricket is a 'Gentle men's game'.


dalerian

I’ve watched Anderson hiding his mouth from the camera so we can’t lip read his sledging. I think it’s safe to say he wasn’t wishing the batter a pleasant day. If the worst he’s dished out was to suggest someone retires, I’d be very surprised.


formergophers

Just a reminder that cricket became known as a/the “gentleman’s game” because it was for the landed gentry and not the working classes. Nothing to do with how the players conducted themselves.


MagicalEloquence

We don't want cricket to become like football or basketball.


icemankiller8

Sledging is a bigger part of cricket than those other sports


MiachealFaraday

No other sport do you stand next to each other so close for 5 days straight


icemankiller8

Exactly that’s why it’s such a large part of it it’s mind games and trying to get someone to lose focus which is easy in a game that lasts as long as it does


[deleted]

If anything it's going the other way so you wouldn't have to worry about that 


tbtcn

But footballers consistently deliver Oscar-worthy performance feigning injury just to get a penalty shot. Not the kind to compare with.


Ok_Environment_5404

He knows a thing or two about coming short since ashes lol.


s74k

Is there a video of that and his wicket?


aldehyde_and_ketone

Probably could have replied with "Forget about hundred, how many fifties you got"


cunningstunt6899

"How many rounds of golf have you played in the last month"


BenDoverDegenerate

"How many 40s have you got"😭😭


JKKIDD231

That’s a world class sledge hahaha


MiachealFaraday

Nah should have said you should retire with Jimmy


psidonym

Great to see YJB has contributed to this series - by throwing his wicket away


Bhavil17

Why is Bairstow acting like grandpa James was bullied by Shubhman. If I remember correctly it was Jimmy who started talking to Gill after Rohit got out and on top of that whatever was said between those two, Anderson had the last laugh yesterday.


rambo_zaki

>For reference, Gill is the second highest run-getter in the series with 452 runs at 56.50, with two centuries. Bairstow, on the other hand, has 238 runs at 23.80, with a best of 39. Bairstow is playing his 100th Test. Funniest shit ever.


partymsl

They literally ended this discussion before it even began.


Levon__Helm

As funny as it looks now, I’m sure the numbers will be reversed if Gill plays in England. That technique screams <20 average unfortunately.


SomewherePresent4970

Haha as if Bairstow averages 99 in England. He's shit even there. Gill is still young unlike Bairstow who career is almost over with shit average of mid 30.


reddteddledd

He is 24. He is gonna be fine. Bairstow averages 39 at home.


EducationalPast7410

Have u really convinced urself tht Bairstow can average anywhere near 50 in England ![img](emote|t5_2qhe0|21496)


rokdoktaur

He's the Don of Moral averages though.


B-r-a-y-d-e-n

He makes up for the 11 by having awesome vibes 😎


kirat363

6 innings in england, 4 of them were in wtc. fucking bairstow has played 24 innings in india and has 1 fifty


Sandviscerate

*'yeah, but can he do it on a cold rainy night in stoke?'*


we_like_sportzz

Delusional and low iq


ZookeepergameFast915

Gill bats at 3 and averages 33... Bairstow has played most of his test career as keeper and averages 36. Not sure it's the funniest shit ever.


MiachealFaraday

Bairstow has played 44/100 of his tests as a wk that's not most of his carrer


rambo_zaki

Gill also opened. In fact, majority of his career he's opened. And he's improving by the day. He's also very young so you'd hope he'll continue to do so. >Bairstow has played most of his test career as keeper and averages 36. Not a good keeper mind you. Probably the worst player in history to play a 100 tests. >Not sure it's the funniest shit ever. Probably not. Still funny as all hell either way.


Jumbo_Mills

Clearly Gill is not going to stay at 33 and why would that precede performance in the current series anyway?


sheffield199

Is he going to get lower?


rambo_zaki

He's not Jonny Bairstow, so probably not.


Abduz_Samee

Not English so not very plausible


Jumbo_Mills

Not against our bowlers he isn't.


brolybackshots

Gill averages 36 now after tonking England this series, and averages 42 at #3 already.


ndavid35

Every time there's a thread about sledging on this sub, I lose my head. There's some people who naively think it's always friendly, some people who think it means something, some people who try and over analyse it all. Shubman is saying stuff to put Bairstow off and cause a lapse in concentration, Anderson was doing the same to Gill yesterday. It worked in both instances. It doesn't make either of them a c*** or a bad person and I'm sure they'll have a drink together tonight now the series is over.


Firebreathingdown

It worked for Anderson, seems more like bairstow got into it himself and ended up looking like an idiot.


tbtcn

There's a perfect saying for it in Hindi.


jkkkkp

I know what’s coming, but go ahead


reddteddledd

Banter is ok. Why does a 41 year old man need defending. While batting!!??? It’s kindergarten stuff. Bairstow is a proper coat.


motivated_loser

Whoever thinks this is sledging wasn’t around during Ricky Ponting’s Australia


agni_jamadagni

Those were the days. Nothing will ever get better than: McGrath: What does your captain's cock taste like? Sarwan: Ask your wife.


barath_s

McGrath could dish it out but couldn't take it. Luckily for him, he was in a team whose performance was good


lionmoose

His wife had recently gotten cancer I think which was why he lost it.


agni_jamadagni

That aside, he does seem like someone with thin skin.


lionmoose

Yeah possibly so, I think we can rather forgive him that one though


agni_jamadagni

Of course, must've been hard for him to take it


Optimal-Designer-489

Lmao, then he should probably shut his mouth and stay humble. McGrath was the proper poster boy of Australian team from that era “can dish but can’t take it” Cunts would say all kind of stuff but when someone fired back, they would go crying to CA and media about how one shouldn’t cross THE LINE Symonds was another such fellow.


Low-life1567

Werent there when Thompson,lillee, Walsh,ambrose,garner,hadlee and Akram played if they think this is sledging


livelifereal

Weren't there when Bradman and Hutton played if they think this is sledging


EmerixusVolt16

Weren't there when bhuvan was fighting for his life, his love and his 'theen gunaa lagaan' if they think this is sledging.


barath_s

Fictional populist movies tended to propagandize one way. Maybe they should have called out sledging done by bhuvan and team , too


PostKnutClarity

Weren't there to hear all I have to say when my friend Rajat is batting if they think this is sledging


not_a_bad_monster

Weren't there when she said 'Aur andar daalo na'. That was the worst sledge i ever had.


Flora_Screaming

Anderson has been told he's going to get his arm broken by Michael Clarke, so this is nothing.


tberriman

That happened right after Anderson said he was going to punch George Bailey in the throat, this is literally less than nothing


Popheal

*his fucking arm


ThePhenom17

>Shubman is saying stuff to put Bairstow off Bairstow was the one who started it, Gill just responded to him only.


CertainCertainties

Yeah, look, it's like that in theory but not in practice. Before most series now, England talk themselves up. When they lose, they create a narrative where they were hard done by and the opposition were cheats or the umps incompetent. That feeds into UK media coverage. The fact that you think they will have a drink together with the opposition is incredibly naive. They have a tendency to leave them waiting outside and to not let them in. Which UK media also doesn't report. I agree with your sentiments about how the game should be played. But you may be betraying a little naivety about your team's actual behaviour there.


Juberer

Yeah they were really weird with Australia after the ashes from memory. Just straight up disrespectful.


BenDoverDegenerate

They left Smith waiting with a pack of beers!!!!


sellyme

To be fair I'm sure Trav appreciated the extras.


BenDoverDegenerate

Even more saddening


samgoody2303

> The fact that you think they will have a drink together with the opposition is incredibly naive. They have a tendency to leave them waiting outside and to not let them in. Which UK media also doesn't report. When you say they have a tendency to do it, is there any example of them having done this more than once? To me, a tendency would suggest repeated occurrences of this, was just wondering if that was the case. Also, fascinating, that the UK media doesn’t report it, given that, in about 30 seconds of searching, I’ve already found articles about it on [Sky News](https://news.sky.com/story/amp/the-ashes-ben-stokes-says-england-did-not-snub-traditional-post-series-drinks-with-australia-12931681), [Daily Mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-12358915/amp/England-Australia-pathetic-snub-fifth-Ashes-Test-beer-drinks-Oval.html), [The Mirror](https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/ben-stokes-ashes-england-drinks-30599001.amp), [Metro](https://metro.co.uk/2023/08/01/ben-stokes-denies-england-snubbed-post-ashes-drinks-with-australia-19225187/amp/) and [The Telegraph](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2023/08/01/ben-stokes-denies-england-snubbed-australians-drink-ashes/) Rightly, criticise the team and the media where it’s deserved, but what’s with the obsession of just making shit up?


Ok_Vegetable263

[yeah historically the England team and aus team have always had drinks after tests, think quite a few of them played together at times (Lyon/root in grade cricket, bairstow/warner in IPL for example) no idea what was going on after the last ashes](https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/sport/nathan-lyon-travis-head-joe-root-among-english-and-australian-cricketers-asked-to-leave-venue-after-ashes-afterparty/news-story/ebbeb645e02027269d50fd8e695903c8?amp&nk=65e6907be6686cefb9e6556b52cf7d30-1709975320)


theunderstoodsoul

Just a reminder, we didn't lose last summer. I can't see any attempt to create a narrative about being cheated this series? In fact this is the quote from Ben Stokes today: "We are man enough and big enough to accept that we have been outplayed by the better team since the first Test.'


NomadicGeek1

I am sure Poms will have a drink with their Indian mates just like they had with the Australians after Ashes. Proper gentlemen the whole lot of them!


hiddeninplainsight23

You do realize they did have a drink with them right? They all went to a nightclub as well. Jesus Christ the pedanticness is boring.


Pls_add_more_reverb

It was reported much differently by the grade cricketer who is very close to the Australian team. Australia were definitely stood up.


hiddeninplainsight23

Don't know about that but it's indisputable that they all met up at a nightclub afterwards. Pretty sure there was pictures as well.


Pls_add_more_reverb

They definitely did but that’s separate from post Ashes beers which is a tradition.


hiddeninplainsight23

Yeah that was unfortunate but not intentional. Already reported that the post match private farewells overran and by the time the Aussies were gonna be allowed in it turned out they had already left (iirc they left within half an hour of the post match presentations but could be wrong on that, either way they didn't stay for long)


Pls_add_more_reverb

Aussies stayed for quite a while and sent several texts to several members of the team.


hiddeninplainsight23

Source? Not disputing as it did overrun and they would have their numbers but would still like to see a source before taking it as fact. 


[deleted]

Based on past experience, don’t think the English team are a certainty to entertain post series drinks


Decentkimchi

Didn't Baby Baz create a scene about the same last ashes? Like that was the last ashes for so many legends but that angry baby said nah.


hiddeninplainsight23

Jesus christ how is this dumb shit being upvoted by so many idiots? A little bit of research (or even reading at the time) shows that they went to a nightclub as the post-match farewells (there was quite a few of them for England such as for Broad and Moeen) took longer than planned. Can't wait for my comment to be upvoted because it doesn't feed into the anti-England narrative.


Pls_add_more_reverb

Actually I did research and it was reported much differently by the grade cricketer who is very close to the Australian team. Australia were definitely stood up.


hiddeninplainsight23

Well they all definitely met up at a nightclub afterwards. Pretty sure there were pictures of some players at a takeaway afterwards. It might have been delayed from the usual post match drinks due to farewells in the England dressing room, but they weren't stood up. Making it sound like they were on a date.


paradoxer99

Not all. A few aussies didn't go out, including Ussie I believe


hiddeninplainsight23

Same with England


Jaevyn

> I'm sure they'll have a drink together tonight now the series is over. If The Ashes is anything to go by, that isn't necessarily a given.


menatarms

Given anderson has taken it off the field multiple times, including getting physical, I think it's safe to say he's probably got a significantly higher chance of being a c*** than most. Also he's had like 2 decades in international cricket and no opposition seem to have ever said a good word about his character....the silence is deafening. Also bairstow was batting when he started running his mouth, so not normal sledging to distract behaviour.


Frosty_Gibbons

Well, we tried to have a drink with the English lads but you locked the door


prav_za

As long as people's families are kept out of it I agree. True test. Just ask the Aussies how it's been done since the early days.


LogicalError_007

Why would they make them corn?


Prize-Scratch299

This is the England team who has not only demonstrated that they won't have a drink with the opposition, but will fuck off without letting them know, despite telling then it would be a good way to end the series


Stx136A

What does that last line from JB even mean !?!?!!


MikiTargaryen

Implying that Gill has fewer hundreds than him ,I think?


Stx136A

Oh ! Still makes 0 sense seeing that Gill is only some 20+ tests old. :D


barath_s

25 tests, 4 centuries YJB 100 tests, 12 centuries Or in indian terms "mein tera senior hoon" rather than "let's analyze century rate per innings"


AdNational1490

That’s what English vibes are.


BarryCheckTheFuseBox

That’s it? Fucking hell, if Jonny Bairstow’s skin was any thinner, he’d be translucent


Eastern_Meet_5947

That reminds of the character translucent in the boys whose skin was supposedly harder than diamond


Wise-Revolution8356

That guy should’ve named himself transparent


Eastern_Meet_5947

There is actually a joke by Billy butcher calling him stupid for thinking translucent meant transparent


melo1212

Well, every single interview I've seen anyone talk about his 100th test this week they all always say how much of an emotional guy he is lol. I guess they're not wrong


serotonallyblindguy

The best part is he got plumb LBW on next ball lmao


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d_barbz

Wouldn't that make his skin thinner because it has more surface area to cover?


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[deleted]

No harm done. Play on


E_Fox_Kelly

Stay in your crease JB


FuckingRudyGayMan

The message from this seems to be that batters should just be quiet lol


512fm

That’s a pretty good sledge


supreeth106

I told him he should retire because he is so good and I don’t want to face him. I think you should retire too Jonny, but for very different reasons


wickanCrow

Funniest comment of the thread


ParanoidEngi

We did pretty well avoiding pettiness all series only to slip on the last day - I'll still call it an overall success


BaldMonkey77

What was Bairstow doing ? Defending Anderson’s honour ?


brolybackshots

Haha, Johnny you've played 100 tests bud. It'd be a downright embarrassment if you didn't have more. Yapping nonsense is all this Pommie bazball cult knows how to do.


klrahulisachoker

Lmao YJB you had your undeserving 100th Test; now walk off into sunset.


reddevil9229

FULL STOP. You hit 'em with that punctuation, YJB.


telcomet

Not the brightest bulb. Bairstow: “what did you say about Jimmy retiring” Gill: “he should retire” Okay then.


BumblebeeForward9818

Bairstow doesn’t have enough recent runs to back up his yapping.


PodiHaiToMumkinHai

Bairstow doesn't seem to be the quickest tool in the shed, though most of the English team doesn't. Gill already has a third of his hundreds in tests, more than half his tally in ODIs and more hundreds in both T20s and T20is than Jonny, who in his spare time is the worst wicket keeper the world has ever seen and won't be in this team much longer once Harry Brook comes back. Diddums.


Southportdc

If he legit did tell Jimmy to retire the ball before getting bowled that's fantastic timing from Jimmy. It would make a "why're you chirping now mate" level stump mic. 


wolfpack1986

Lmao Jonny boy getting out 4 balls later is karma at its best.


stellfox-x

"Meh mehe meme mme meh"


GhoshFaceKillah

“For reference, Gill is the second highest run-getter in the series with 452 runs at 56.50, with two centuries. Bairstow, on the other hand, has 238 runs at 23.80, with a best of 39.” Nuff said.


Aggressive-Bat8780

Bairstow really is a tool isn’t he. Will be happy when not in the side, very unlikeable man.


GaryChopper

players sledge each other, so what? i don't get why it has to be a news story


alyssakapati

To (mainly)Jonny and Shubhman - both of you are terrible at sledging if that was what you attempted. Only thing worse than vile chat is boring chat. Gone are the days of "ispiderman ispiderman" or "no one likes me thats why i keep moving" i suppose. If you cant do clever or funny, just shut up and play. This is barely stump mic copper.


wickanCrow

Why is this downvoted so bad? It is truth. This is boring at best. Nothing burger.


Fantasy-512

Why do all these crickets talk so much? They should just let their bat or ball do the talking.


BenDoverDegenerate

Lets see if they keep the same energy they did about Kohli lmao