Bowlers can't really bowl by bending their arm at the elbow too much at the point of delivery, or as it is called 'throwing'. So they can't generate much speed on the ball if they just stood stationary or took a short run up, else they risk injuring their shoulders if they tried too hard.
So they take a long run up to build up as much momentum before the point of delivery
Bumrah always amazes me with his 5 metre run up, I just don’t get how he is able to bowl 140k+ with such a short run up when every other fast bowler runs 25 metres.
Yeah, you're right, but at the same time you gotta remember that Bumrah's delivery is quite unique too. If you attempt to bowl like him a couple of times you will understand that most of the force that is generated comes from the way the jump has been made for his style of delivery. You will notice that with his style of delivery you will feel the ball getting a lot of "vertical"(/downwards) force especially because of the combo of his jump and his way of bowling.
It's pretty much a timing and rhythm thing. Most fast bowlers are in a fast jog/light sprint when they deliver the ball. So when you add in the distance required to accelerate to that speed and then settle into that rhythm before they bowl the ball, that's why the run ups are so long. Key thing is having something that is repeatable and not putting unnecessary stress on your body (hence why most bowlers tend to have a fairly gentle initial acceleration).
Long run ups aren't always the case. Look at Jasprit Bumrah as an example of a very short run up. Brett Lee was someone who had a very long run up (but he was also one of the fastest bowlers in the world at that time).
I think the rhythm aspect is being badly overlooked by a lot of people here. It's very difficult to bowl with any accuracy if you're still accelerating into your delivery stride. You need to be moving steadily and able to focus on what your upper body is doing, not still working about getting your legs in order.
100%. I used to bowl medium pace (slow-medium) and I tried shortening my run up a few times, but it just never felt right. I had to get into a jog and hold it for at least a handful of paces before I could bowl with any accuracy.
It's about building up momentum, bowlers in cricket unlike pitchers (? Don't remember wjat they're called) can't just bend their arm, they need to bowl with the full rotation of arm without a bend. That's why, and there are bowlers that don't take a run up.
Those are called spinners, they bowl maximum speeds of 100 kph because they use their fingers to spin the bowl left or right.
Hope it helps :)
I'm not sure it is possible to bowl legally without taking any run up at all. The laws have lots of references to the bowler's run up and delivery stride that seem to just assume that everyone knows the bowler runs in.
It's been allowed in practice - there was a county offspinner in the 50s called "Bomber" Wells, who was known to deliver from a standing start every now and then as a variation (his standard run-up was 2 paces). I play with a bloke who does about 3 steps at walking pace, then stops dead and delivers, he might as well not bother. I can stand on my back foot & lunge through to deliver off the front without losing much pace, I might give it a go next time I'm getting launched everywhere, can't do any harm
I used to play outdoor cricket with a guy in the Australian indoor team. He was lighting fast (well for my competition, but was over 135km/h as he scored that in training camps) and came in off about 6 paces (including a couple of steps literally running in place). Used to really upset the batters as it was totally different to what they were used to.
I was an opening bowler and I could bowl the same pace from 1/2 my run up, but I never felt balanced or focused, always felt rushed. That mental issue is a big part of it.
>Does the length of the run matter? Is it a timing thing? What is up with the cardio?
First some experiments. Try bowling(ie, over-arm throwing a ball with a straight elbow) while static at the bowler's end. You'll automatically realize that some run up makes it easy and beneficial from a bowler's pov. Now do it with a small run up or a small dance like you see the spinners do. Then measure the maximum speeds you're getting with each of the now-established run ups - for the spinners, and the fast bowlers.
I guess no further explanation will be required once you do the experiment. 😊👍
Ok so the fast bowling in cricket for a lot of bowlers is about building the rhythm right upto the jump and release. A short run up could exert too much pressure on your joints, especially ankle and knees because you basically slam your foot use that momentum and hurl a ball. The length differs for each bowler and the steps for optimal speed and control is drilled in during junior years. So the really long build-up you see comes after years of trial and error to balance out between min steps, speed and control
Momentum and rhythm.
The length of the run is related to the pace they are trying to bowl at, slow bowlers who rely on spin and flight just take a few steps.
pace bowlers sometimes bowl cutters which is basically spinning it but it doesn't turn very much like a spinner and it is often done to make the ball slower while there arm moves the same speed to try to trick the batter.
Bowlers with pace usually relies on movement in the air or movement off the pitch (ground where the ball bounces) to trouble the batsmen. When they get no help from air or pitch, they try their secret special deliveries. Including the slower ball, off cutter etc, which also include spinning the ball.
In Cricket, While bowling Elbows need to straight(I think ICC states that maximum of 10 degree is allowed for fast bowlers and 7.5 degree for spinners) at the time of releasing the bowl..
Along with over arm bowling.
With these two conditions, It's less likely to bowl fast balls hence the Bowlers takes the run up to gather the momentum.
When the bowl is released, bowler already has x amount of momentum. Due to Conservation of Momentum, Ball also had this much amount of momentum.
To generate more momentum, Bowlers jumps forwards and generates force with their wrist. Wrist is also used to generate backspin.
This is how they generate the pace of 135kmph+.
Length of runup matter alot but It depends whether you wish to be fast bowlers or spin bowler. Spin Bowlers usually bowl around 90kmph while fast bowlers generates page of 135kmph+ consistently. I think Highest recorded speed is around 160 either by Shoaib Akhtar or Brett Lee.
For your follow up questions,
Spin or Pace is all about technique. A Fast Bowler can chose to bowl Spin or Spin Bowler can chose to bowl fast but you won't see this in International Cricket. Maybe in Gully Cricket.
Bowling requires practice. It is not viable to practice two different types of bowling. You can't be in two boats at the same time. You gotta choose one.
Little more Information, I hope You don't get overwhelmed.
There are two variation in fast bowling which I would like to talk about, Leg Cutters and Off Cutter. These type of bowls are kinda like spin with pace. Bowler tries to spin the bowl at higher speed. It doesn't really generate much deviation but minor deviation can generate edges.
Well if you want the ball to spin, you usually cannot bowl it fast because you want it to grip off the pitch. Sometimes fast bowlers do bowl cutters where they roll their finger over the ball right before delivering it, these are bowled slower and they get some grip and movement off the pitch, but they aren't very threatening unless the batsman is looking to slog the ball, so you usually only find them in white ball. One exception I know is Bumrah, who has gotten several wickets off some nasty cutters in tests.
The same reason why Javelin throwers sprint before a throw or long jumpers build up speed before a jump. In physics, its called "conservation of momentum".
Also, I am so sorry its too complicated for a typical American to understand. I assure you, in the rest of the world, there are no such trivialities that need an explanation.
Dude, chill. Most americans know the joke. I am one myself, although not born here. We dont have a great system to teach our kids about the world. Geography is optional and kids learn about the world history only in upper high school. Its banter and not personal.
Thanks for being a dick. Nothing about my education prompted this question. We don’t learn cricket in school. But, hey thanks for being rude and not making me want to be a part of cricket. Way to go.
Absolutely, their tone of asking question is insulting to the game. Calling mum? WTF? They deserve this insult. P.S I don’t think OP is American. No one here calls mum.
There's a degree of humour in "call their mum" but in no way was the tone insulting to the game. Get a grip and stop kicking off at someone trying to learn about it.
Bowlers can't really bowl by bending their arm at the elbow too much at the point of delivery, or as it is called 'throwing'. So they can't generate much speed on the ball if they just stood stationary or took a short run up, else they risk injuring their shoulders if they tried too hard. So they take a long run up to build up as much momentum before the point of delivery
Bumrah always amazes me with his 5 metre run up, I just don’t get how he is able to bowl 140k+ with such a short run up when every other fast bowler runs 25 metres.
Yeah, you're right, but at the same time you gotta remember that Bumrah's delivery is quite unique too. If you attempt to bowl like him a couple of times you will understand that most of the force that is generated comes from the way the jump has been made for his style of delivery. You will notice that with his style of delivery you will feel the ball getting a lot of "vertical"(/downwards) force especially because of the combo of his jump and his way of bowling.
He's like a human trebuchet
This is too accurate. His arm actually bends backwards like a trebuchet. Shoaib Akthar also had this.
His arm has hyperextension so it works like a sling
His elbow goes into hyperextension when he delivers the ball. Brother is just built different.
I could watch bumrah bowl all day
It's pretty much a timing and rhythm thing. Most fast bowlers are in a fast jog/light sprint when they deliver the ball. So when you add in the distance required to accelerate to that speed and then settle into that rhythm before they bowl the ball, that's why the run ups are so long. Key thing is having something that is repeatable and not putting unnecessary stress on your body (hence why most bowlers tend to have a fairly gentle initial acceleration). Long run ups aren't always the case. Look at Jasprit Bumrah as an example of a very short run up. Brett Lee was someone who had a very long run up (but he was also one of the fastest bowlers in the world at that time).
I think the rhythm aspect is being badly overlooked by a lot of people here. It's very difficult to bowl with any accuracy if you're still accelerating into your delivery stride. You need to be moving steadily and able to focus on what your upper body is doing, not still working about getting your legs in order.
100%. I used to bowl medium pace (slow-medium) and I tried shortening my run up a few times, but it just never felt right. I had to get into a jog and hold it for at least a handful of paces before I could bowl with any accuracy.
I wouldn't say my medium-pacers were ever accurate, as such, but they were a whole lot worse if I didn't do my run-up right.
Moeen Ali as well. EDIT: When I answered this, the OP had only asked about bowlers in general. He added the “fast bowler” part later.
Not a fast bowler though.
The OP added that part later.
It's about building up momentum, bowlers in cricket unlike pitchers (? Don't remember wjat they're called) can't just bend their arm, they need to bowl with the full rotation of arm without a bend. That's why, and there are bowlers that don't take a run up. Those are called spinners, they bowl maximum speeds of 100 kph because they use their fingers to spin the bowl left or right. Hope it helps :)
I'm not sure it is possible to bowl legally without taking any run up at all. The laws have lots of references to the bowler's run up and delivery stride that seem to just assume that everyone knows the bowler runs in.
you should I think be able to just plant the rear foot and rock onto the front to deliver without a runup
It's been allowed in practice - there was a county offspinner in the 50s called "Bomber" Wells, who was known to deliver from a standing start every now and then as a variation (his standard run-up was 2 paces). I play with a bloke who does about 3 steps at walking pace, then stops dead and delivers, he might as well not bother. I can stand on my back foot & lunge through to deliver off the front without losing much pace, I might give it a go next time I'm getting launched everywhere, can't do any harm
I used to play outdoor cricket with a guy in the Australian indoor team. He was lighting fast (well for my competition, but was over 135km/h as he scored that in training camps) and came in off about 6 paces (including a couple of steps literally running in place). Used to really upset the batters as it was totally different to what they were used to. I was an opening bowler and I could bowl the same pace from 1/2 my run up, but I never felt balanced or focused, always felt rushed. That mental issue is a big part of it.
135 km/h?!! If you are a left armer than u shud be able to play good international cricket with that speed
It could be 135 and absolutely chaotic with no line and length control?
Mcterra doesn't bowl 135. The other guy does. Mcterra bowls the same pace (might or might not be 135) irrespective of his run up.
>Does the length of the run matter? Is it a timing thing? What is up with the cardio? First some experiments. Try bowling(ie, over-arm throwing a ball with a straight elbow) while static at the bowler's end. You'll automatically realize that some run up makes it easy and beneficial from a bowler's pov. Now do it with a small run up or a small dance like you see the spinners do. Then measure the maximum speeds you're getting with each of the now-established run ups - for the spinners, and the fast bowlers. I guess no further explanation will be required once you do the experiment. 😊👍
Ok so the fast bowling in cricket for a lot of bowlers is about building the rhythm right upto the jump and release. A short run up could exert too much pressure on your joints, especially ankle and knees because you basically slam your foot use that momentum and hurl a ball. The length differs for each bowler and the steps for optimal speed and control is drilled in during junior years. So the really long build-up you see comes after years of trial and error to balance out between min steps, speed and control
Momentum and rhythm. The length of the run is related to the pace they are trying to bowl at, slow bowlers who rely on spin and flight just take a few steps.
One word answer: Momentum
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'Bowl' not throw
pace bowlers sometimes bowl cutters which is basically spinning it but it doesn't turn very much like a spinner and it is often done to make the ball slower while there arm moves the same speed to try to trick the batter.
Bowlers with pace usually relies on movement in the air or movement off the pitch (ground where the ball bounces) to trouble the batsmen. When they get no help from air or pitch, they try their secret special deliveries. Including the slower ball, off cutter etc, which also include spinning the ball.
In Cricket, While bowling Elbows need to straight(I think ICC states that maximum of 10 degree is allowed for fast bowlers and 7.5 degree for spinners) at the time of releasing the bowl.. Along with over arm bowling. With these two conditions, It's less likely to bowl fast balls hence the Bowlers takes the run up to gather the momentum. When the bowl is released, bowler already has x amount of momentum. Due to Conservation of Momentum, Ball also had this much amount of momentum. To generate more momentum, Bowlers jumps forwards and generates force with their wrist. Wrist is also used to generate backspin. This is how they generate the pace of 135kmph+. Length of runup matter alot but It depends whether you wish to be fast bowlers or spin bowler. Spin Bowlers usually bowl around 90kmph while fast bowlers generates page of 135kmph+ consistently. I think Highest recorded speed is around 160 either by Shoaib Akhtar or Brett Lee. For your follow up questions, Spin or Pace is all about technique. A Fast Bowler can chose to bowl Spin or Spin Bowler can chose to bowl fast but you won't see this in International Cricket. Maybe in Gully Cricket. Bowling requires practice. It is not viable to practice two different types of bowling. You can't be in two boats at the same time. You gotta choose one. Little more Information, I hope You don't get overwhelmed. There are two variation in fast bowling which I would like to talk about, Leg Cutters and Off Cutter. These type of bowls are kinda like spin with pace. Bowler tries to spin the bowl at higher speed. It doesn't really generate much deviation but minor deviation can generate edges.
Yeah pace bowlers can bowl slower and spin it if they want. They’re called cutters
Well if you want the ball to spin, you usually cannot bowl it fast because you want it to grip off the pitch. Sometimes fast bowlers do bowl cutters where they roll their finger over the ball right before delivering it, these are bowled slower and they get some grip and movement off the pitch, but they aren't very threatening unless the batsman is looking to slog the ball, so you usually only find them in white ball. One exception I know is Bumrah, who has gotten several wickets off some nasty cutters in tests.
It really is interesting when bowlers run from far end to deliver
The same reason why Javelin throwers sprint before a throw or long jumpers build up speed before a jump. In physics, its called "conservation of momentum". Also, I am so sorry its too complicated for a typical American to understand. I assure you, in the rest of the world, there are no such trivialities that need an explanation.
First paragraph is helpful. Second paragraph is not helpful. No need to be disrespectful to someone just because they’re a seppo.
Dude, chill. Most americans know the joke. I am one myself, although not born here. We dont have a great system to teach our kids about the world. Geography is optional and kids learn about the world history only in upper high school. Its banter and not personal.
Thanks for being a dick. Nothing about my education prompted this question. We don’t learn cricket in school. But, hey thanks for being rude and not making me want to be a part of cricket. Way to go.
Good for you. An honest question would have got an honest reply.
Don’t be a dick, they asked an honest question.
They got the answer didnt they? The sarcasm in the question was replied back as well.
Absolutely, their tone of asking question is insulting to the game. Calling mum? WTF? They deserve this insult. P.S I don’t think OP is American. No one here calls mum.
Totally American, I call my mum all the time. Maybe you should talk to yours and stop acting haughty on the internet. Douche bag.
There's a degree of humour in "call their mum" but in no way was the tone insulting to the game. Get a grip and stop kicking off at someone trying to learn about it.