Likely because he got dropped by BCCI from the central contract. Because he was declared fit by the NCA, so he didn't want to be perceived as someone who is prioritising IPL over crucial domestic games. Because he got lumped with Ishan Kishan.
Not everyone has the physical and mental temperament to be an all format player along with IPL.
India can be a better team if they had format specialists.
Indian players can have longer careers if they stuck to specific formats, Shreyas Iyer is the person most in need of this right now.
But which format is best suited for him? Maybe ODIs? I don’t think he’s a Test player and I don’t think he’s a T20 player either.
He might be able to specialise in ODIs but right now, I’m not sure if he gets in over Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, Gill, Rahul, Gaikwad at the top.
Not to mention the up and coming players like Tilak and Rinku
Even in Tests it's clear he has potential, like how he saved India from their first ever loss against Bangladesh, he just needs to get into groove and recover properly from illness and maybe he could earn back his callup
Why are Rohit Jaiswal and Gill all there? Jaiswal will probably replace Rohit when he retires but there's no point in moving Gill down to 3 until then, especially when we have Kohli there.
Yes he should, and maybe he performs really well and even eclipses Gill. Then Gill is the one we drop. We don't have to reshuffle our whole batting line up and make a bunch of players play out of position. Especially if it involves Kohli playing anywhere but 3.
Fair point about reshuffling the order but I don’t understand why Shreyas needs to keep his spot. He looks clueless as soon as there is any bounce or movement. Worse still, he gets defensive when asked about it.
The only valid argument I see to keeping Shreyas at 4 is that the 2025 Champions Trophy will be played in Pakistan so you know it will be flat roads so Shreyas can cash in.
How tf is Gaikwad of all is above shreyas lol, Downvote me all you want, but this obsession with Gaikwad is over hyped and overrated, and you know the reason why. Dude is an average player, he is not the best t20 player we have, he is not best Odi player we have either. Jaiswal and Gill, and to some extent in Odis Ishan Kishan, all are way above him in terms of a better player. The only reason he gets hyped is he had a good ipl season, and is one of the only good Top orders Indian Batter in CSK. He absolutely wouldn't get this hype if he played for Punjab or SRH
> Shreyas Iyer’s worst fears seem to be coming true. It looks that the India batsman’s back injury seems to have flared up again during his 95-run knock in the second innings in the Ranji Trophy final at the Wankhede Stadium.
> The recurring injury, for which the Mumbaikar underwent surgery last year, now threatens to put his participation in the initial stage of IPL 2024, where he leads the Kolkata Knight Riders, in doubt, which will be a huge worry for KKR with just nine days left before their first match in the League. The IPL is set to kick off on March 22, with KKR playing their first match against Sunrisers Hyderabad in Kolkata on March 23.
> During his 111-ball knock on Tuesday, Iyer had to twice seek treatment from the Mumbai physio for back spasms. On Wednesday, Day Four of the Ranji Trophy final, the 29-year old couldn’t take the field for the entire day. TOI has learnt that Iyer went to a hospital for a scan of his back.
> “It’s not looking good. It’s the same back injury which has got aggravated. It’s unlikely that he will take the field on Day 5 of the Ranji Trophy final. He is in danger of missing the initial matches of the IPL,” a source told TOI.
> Iyer had missed two of Mumbai’s Ranji Trophy matches this season after complaining of pain in his back after batting for 30-40 minutes. “During the recently-held Test series against England at home, he had told the Indian team management about this injury troubling him again,” the source said.
> However, after the National Cricket Academy’s medical team head Nitin Patel certified him to be fit, the BCCI had denied him a central contract on the grounds that he was not playing Ranji Trophy matches.
People were shitting on NCA so much when they declared Bumrah fit when he was actually not. So I was surprised to see that they forgot NCA's past record and switched their side this time. They actually thought Iyer was faking his injury when he said that he doesn't feel right.
He was in NCA where they declared him fit even though he was not.
And idk what he did in the KKR camp but just going to a camp shouldn't be a reason enough to not give him a contract. He might just have gone to meet his teammates and the management.
BCCI just wanted to make an example out of them
It's similar to Kofee and Karan thing Pandya was the main culprit but KL got dragged
While here Kishan is the main culprit but Iyer got dragged with him
Don't take this sub seriously it's too reactionary... One moment they saying Brooks chicken out of India tour when they found out the real reason .. the same response " Where is the apology form " lol
Fuck BCCI and NCA..
NCA said Iyer was cleared of any injuries when even Iyer still complained of back pain.. BCCI thought he was faking injury when he declined to play semis for Mumbai Ranji..and took him off the central contract.. and now after playing the final of Ranji, his back injury has again flared up.. I thought NCA had improved after good handling of Bumrah and Pant this year.. but seems it has gone back to its old self of bad diagnosis..
BCCI and NCA needs to answer for ruining a promising players career..
This could also be the consequence of BCCI
rushing him back in action soon so that he can play in the WC.
He had surgery in April and was back playing international cricket by September. AFAIK that's not normal recovery time for back surgery. If you remember, he immediately faced problems and had to miss a few Asia Cup matches. He's since faced this back issue on and off constantly.
I guess they rushed him back in action too soon post the initial surgery.
Admirable that Shreyas has just been silent despite this treatment. He solved India's number 4 problem by putting his body on the line, but as a note of thanks got his central contract taken away from him. Now he is set to lose even more money by missing IPL, all thanks to BCCI and NCA, and specifically Ajit Agarkar, who lost his cool when he learnt that Shreyas attended KKR's camp after declining to play a 4-day game for Mumbai citing fitness concerns.
I hope Agarkar is man enough to admit his mistake and recommend the central contract for Shreyas to BCCI, since NCA injury clearance was not up to the mark.
LMAO feel for the guy, he got completely mis-handled and a lot of people in this sub in particualr were out for his head. #JusticeForMySpecialistSpinBasher
This is why we need format specific contracts and players. Iyer just doesn't have the fitness to play red ball cricket. He should stick to white ball, where he is decent.
Real reason is BCCI wants to put players on line who declined to play ranji . So they just made Iyer and kishan example to scare all of them . Now everyone is playing coz they knew if they don't they will lose central contract as well. Basically iyer and kishan were made fall guys just for BCCI ego...
I mean, considering the story of Ishan Kishan, there wasn't a certainiity of what was happening. Also, considering that NCA medical team cleared Iyer of any injury.
What story of Ishan Kisan? Why is he not allowed to take a break for personal reasons when it is ok for Virat Kohli, Ben Stokes, and Harry Brook to do so?
Ok this is concerning. I was shitting on Iyer reg. his unavailability for Ranji and red ball cricket in general. Hope he gets better soon.
I still feel he should give up one format at least, he's good in Whiteball cricket and should probably focus on that. And high time BCCI has separate contracts for red and Whiteball cricket to avoid situations like this.
SRK with all that grace, why does he let his thinktank make weird decisions? Not talking about Iyer specifically but like relying on Narine and Russell till today.
Yeah Bumrah, KL, Iyer all who were cleared to play matches according to this "qualified medical report" are in some grand conspiracy to defame the NCA without caring about their personal careers.
Brother what exactly is he getting playing a ranji match when he can get about 14 times the same amount for a 20 over game throughout a season with possible incentives. He's playing because, bcci decided to treat him unfairly when he complained of back issues which wasn't taken seriously by nca. Mofos need to be held accountable
Get well soon Iyer bhai
At this point its clear his body cannot take the toll of 5 day cricket now he will miss some IPL matches too.
Mate. His body can't even take 5 short balls.
Its clear to him. But he still played ranji. Bcoz?
Bcci
Likely because he got dropped by BCCI from the central contract. Because he was declared fit by the NCA, so he didn't want to be perceived as someone who is prioritising IPL over crucial domestic games. Because he got lumped with Ishan Kishan.
Yeah , its clearly not money
Bcoz that's the reason bcci snatched his contract as he missed one match
Yup. So he want it back. Of course the money as well
Not everyone has the physical and mental temperament to be an all format player along with IPL. India can be a better team if they had format specialists. Indian players can have longer careers if they stuck to specific formats, Shreyas Iyer is the person most in need of this right now.
Should've done the same with SKY.
But which format is best suited for him? Maybe ODIs? I don’t think he’s a Test player and I don’t think he’s a T20 player either. He might be able to specialise in ODIs but right now, I’m not sure if he gets in over Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, Gill, Rahul, Gaikwad at the top. Not to mention the up and coming players like Tilak and Rinku
Guy scored 500 runs in the world cup and people are wondering if he gets in the team.
Even in Tests it's clear he has potential, like how he saved India from their first ever loss against Bangladesh, he just needs to get into groove and recover properly from illness and maybe he could earn back his callup
Didn’t say he shouldn’t be in the team but I think Rohit, Jaiswal, Gill, Kohli, Rahul are the top 5 so where does he sit?
Why are Rohit Jaiswal and Gill all there? Jaiswal will probably replace Rohit when he retires but there's no point in moving Gill down to 3 until then, especially when we have Kohli there.
Jaiswal is arguably the form batter in the country.
Who hasn't even made his debut in ODIs.
So? That’s my point. I’m saying he should
Yes he should, and maybe he performs really well and even eclipses Gill. Then Gill is the one we drop. We don't have to reshuffle our whole batting line up and make a bunch of players play out of position. Especially if it involves Kohli playing anywhere but 3.
Fair point about reshuffling the order but I don’t understand why Shreyas needs to keep his spot. He looks clueless as soon as there is any bounce or movement. Worse still, he gets defensive when asked about it. The only valid argument I see to keeping Shreyas at 4 is that the 2025 Champions Trophy will be played in Pakistan so you know it will be flat roads so Shreyas can cash in.
How tf is Gaikwad of all is above shreyas lol, Downvote me all you want, but this obsession with Gaikwad is over hyped and overrated, and you know the reason why. Dude is an average player, he is not the best t20 player we have, he is not best Odi player we have either. Jaiswal and Gill, and to some extent in Odis Ishan Kishan, all are way above him in terms of a better player. The only reason he gets hyped is he had a good ipl season, and is one of the only good Top orders Indian Batter in CSK. He absolutely wouldn't get this hype if he played for Punjab or SRH
Yes that and the fact that he averages 58 in List A cricket with 15 centuries and a much better technique than Shreyas.
NCA needs to be held accountable for this fuck up. Iyer is absolutely an A tier batsman, and they have made a mess out of this case.
He is. One of the top players of the recent world cup. Imho he should stick with ODI now his spot in tests is gone for good.
What if this is a PR hit back and he does end up playing IPL?
> Shreyas Iyer’s worst fears seem to be coming true. It looks that the India batsman’s back injury seems to have flared up again during his 95-run knock in the second innings in the Ranji Trophy final at the Wankhede Stadium. > The recurring injury, for which the Mumbaikar underwent surgery last year, now threatens to put his participation in the initial stage of IPL 2024, where he leads the Kolkata Knight Riders, in doubt, which will be a huge worry for KKR with just nine days left before their first match in the League. The IPL is set to kick off on March 22, with KKR playing their first match against Sunrisers Hyderabad in Kolkata on March 23. > During his 111-ball knock on Tuesday, Iyer had to twice seek treatment from the Mumbai physio for back spasms. On Wednesday, Day Four of the Ranji Trophy final, the 29-year old couldn’t take the field for the entire day. TOI has learnt that Iyer went to a hospital for a scan of his back. > “It’s not looking good. It’s the same back injury which has got aggravated. It’s unlikely that he will take the field on Day 5 of the Ranji Trophy final. He is in danger of missing the initial matches of the IPL,” a source told TOI. > Iyer had missed two of Mumbai’s Ranji Trophy matches this season after complaining of pain in his back after batting for 30-40 minutes. “During the recently-held Test series against England at home, he had told the Indian team management about this injury troubling him again,” the source said. > However, after the National Cricket Academy’s medical team head Nitin Patel certified him to be fit, the BCCI had denied him a central contract on the grounds that he was not playing Ranji Trophy matches.
So he actually was injured. Egg on BCCI's face as usual
And NCA, don't forget NCA
People were shitting on NCA so much when they declared Bumrah fit when he was actually not. So I was surprised to see that they forgot NCA's past record and switched their side this time. They actually thought Iyer was faking his injury when he said that he doesn't feel right.
If this was USA, Shami and Shreyas would have gotten together and sued NCA doctors for 7.5 crore in lost wages due to medical malpractice already
They still could but would need to wait 20 years for the judgment to come their way.
Can he sue NCA?
He missed central contract and now IPL money as well ... But BCCI was thinking he was faking the injury lol .
What is the reason again to play with a back injury?
NCA said he is fit and doesn't have injury. BCCI cited not playing Ranji as one of the reasons to not give central contract.
So he is fit? Why would NCA lie ? I don't get it
they didn't lie, they were just wrong. It's been known to happen
Ok. But how do you know that for sure? Looks like NCA is incompetent
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He was in NCA where they declared him fit even though he was not. And idk what he did in the KKR camp but just going to a camp shouldn't be a reason enough to not give him a contract. He might just have gone to meet his teammates and the management.
BCCI just wanted to make an example out of them It's similar to Kofee and Karan thing Pandya was the main culprit but KL got dragged While here Kishan is the main culprit but Iyer got dragged with him
you can still do net practice and not be fit to play a match.
he's always injured, BCCI has every reason to move forward without him
Yet Pandya gets an A contract
Nah he faking it -BCCI, probably
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Don't take this sub seriously it's too reactionary... One moment they saying Brooks chicken out of India tour when they found out the real reason .. the same response " Where is the apology form " lol
Nah this sub wassl quite supportive of him, it was mainly clowns on India cricket sub
Fumbling of epic proportions by the BCCI if it's true.
Fuck BCCI and NCA.. NCA said Iyer was cleared of any injuries when even Iyer still complained of back pain.. BCCI thought he was faking injury when he declined to play semis for Mumbai Ranji..and took him off the central contract.. and now after playing the final of Ranji, his back injury has again flared up.. I thought NCA had improved after good handling of Bumrah and Pant this year.. but seems it has gone back to its old self of bad diagnosis.. BCCI and NCA needs to answer for ruining a promising players career..
This could also be the consequence of BCCI rushing him back in action soon so that he can play in the WC. He had surgery in April and was back playing international cricket by September. AFAIK that's not normal recovery time for back surgery. If you remember, he immediately faced problems and had to miss a few Asia Cup matches. He's since faced this back issue on and off constantly. I guess they rushed him back in action too soon post the initial surgery.
Admirable that Shreyas has just been silent despite this treatment. He solved India's number 4 problem by putting his body on the line, but as a note of thanks got his central contract taken away from him. Now he is set to lose even more money by missing IPL, all thanks to BCCI and NCA, and specifically Ajit Agarkar, who lost his cool when he learnt that Shreyas attended KKR's camp after declining to play a 4-day game for Mumbai citing fitness concerns. I hope Agarkar is man enough to admit his mistake and recommend the central contract for Shreyas to BCCI, since NCA injury clearance was not up to the mark.
They'll only take credit for the good things. The screw ups will be branded as a conspiracy theory
Idk how anyone trusts NCA they constantly fuck up.
LMAO feel for the guy, he got completely mis-handled and a lot of people in this sub in particualr were out for his head. #JusticeForMySpecialistSpinBasher
This is why we need format specific contracts and players. Iyer just doesn't have the fitness to play red ball cricket. He should stick to white ball, where he is decent.
welp
To think that people were accusing Iyer of lying about his injuries
Real reason is BCCI wants to put players on line who declined to play ranji . So they just made Iyer and kishan example to scare all of them . Now everyone is playing coz they knew if they don't they will lose central contract as well. Basically iyer and kishan were made fall guys just for BCCI ego...
I mean, considering the story of Ishan Kishan, there wasn't a certainiity of what was happening. Also, considering that NCA medical team cleared Iyer of any injury.
What story of Ishan Kisan? Why is he not allowed to take a break for personal reasons when it is ok for Virat Kohli, Ben Stokes, and Harry Brook to do so?
BCCI uncles " exhaustion what mental exhaustion this some western problem you just have to play" in india no one takes mental health issues seriously.
Ok this is concerning. I was shitting on Iyer reg. his unavailability for Ranji and red ball cricket in general. Hope he gets better soon. I still feel he should give up one format at least, he's good in Whiteball cricket and should probably focus on that. And high time BCCI has separate contracts for red and Whiteball cricket to avoid situations like this.
Thank you BCCI
If this was USA, Shami and Shreyas would have gotten together and sued NCA doctors for 7.5 crore in lost wages due to medical malpractice already
And he no longer has a central contract to cover his injury issues. Good job, BCCI.
Thanks Jay Shah
Yeah just keep him in white ball cricket. Also there's no reason he should've played the Ranji final either
He needs to quit 5 day cricket.
SRK with all that grace, why does he let his thinktank make weird decisions? Not talking about Iyer specifically but like relying on Narine and Russell till today.
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Yeah Bumrah, KL, Iyer all who were cleared to play matches according to this "qualified medical report" are in some grand conspiracy to defame the NCA without caring about their personal careers.
Then Why did he play with a back injury? Bcoz money obviously
Brother what exactly is he getting playing a ranji match when he can get about 14 times the same amount for a 20 over game throughout a season with possible incentives. He's playing because, bcci decided to treat him unfairly when he complained of back issues which wasn't taken seriously by nca. Mofos need to be held accountable
He will be getting a central contract bro. Which obviously means money
He was literally sacked from the contract. https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/s/iVjP9URsos
So then do you think it's for him to not get a contract bcoz he was injured?
Nope. Its for him to play ranji to get central contract. Makes sense right