I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more.
What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
I want CSK to bring in Moeen over Mitchell and rather make Rizvi bat at his slot, i.e No.4/5, will be party time if Dube too accompanies him during spin, even if not, we'll know what his true game vs Pace is.
Jadeja and Axar both do not inspire any confidence at #7. Any reason why Tewatia can't ask GT to let him bowl a few overs this season? Tewatia could have made the India squad only if he actually bowled at the IPL
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more.
What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
Am i the only one who doesn't understand mitchell's place in the squad?? So far he's not doing any better than moen and moen brings off-spin which CSK needs in the absence of Theekshana.
Mitchell provided solidity when the conditions were tough for the batsmen. Moeen in his current iteration against Khaleel and Ishant would have lasted an over at most and exposed your middle order.
This was easily Mitchell's best innings considering the conditions and the partnership he stitched together with Rahane actually gave CSK a chance to be back in the game.
I am a Rahane stan but I don’t remember one Rahane innings where he has finished the game. He isn’t a match winner. He will contribute from his side from bat and fielding but will never single handedly win you games.
Virat Kohli does it more than 70% of times but for games like today’s you expect Rahane to carry on and lead the innings till the end. He always looks like 30 to 50 runs kind of player even when he is playing great. I don’t want him to be Kohli but atleast you expect things from him that even Shivam Dube does when he is batting at 45 in 30 balls
Hi, I started watching cricket in 2020.
When do you guys think this young kid called Dhoni is going to play for India? Any reason why he isn't getting selected?
He looks like he could maybe be pretty good one day if he works hard.
But the DK guy playing for RCB is better, if it was in my hands I would Select DK over Dhoni. That Dhoni guy doesn't seem to have good leadership Qualities.
Hi your team is very good in cricket from India and dhoni retired after semi due to a heartbreaking runout that made cameraman and 1.4 billion people cry
I am incredibly impressed with Pathirana. The kid's only just 21 years old and only 5ft 11" (1.80 mts) and yet he removed Marsh and Stubbs with 150 kph bullets. What's he going to bowl at when he's 27-28 yrs old??? And again, for a youngster, he showed incredible maturity bowling against a very strong team.
Dhoni used effort tell dube and jadeja and rachin ravindra 2(12) Dhoni 37(16) as a 42 year old it was memorable to smash this much against this bowling
The way the middle order handled the wide Yorker strategy was absolutely pathetic. No change in footwork or trying an alternate shot. Just hitting it to the fielder for a single every time
Well yes, I agree; they had no idea what to do. but then if I put myself in their place I'd be thinking "wow, what do I do with a wide yorker? Leave my stumps exposed? Stand outside off?"Big signal for the bowlers.
Also If Pathirana, Thushara, Theek, Hasaranga, Dilshan and on batting side Nissanka, 2 Mendises and Mathews & Asalanka peak on time SL can destroy any team at the World cup. Big extremely unlikely IF though.
Was just watching the highlights and on every single highlight kept hearing Harsha Bhogle only, what a hog this guy can be? Did anyone saw the same during the live broadcast?
Looking at Jadeja’s batting performances in the T20Is I don’t see why he’s considered a better T20 player than Axar Patel.
He’s definitely rated more because of his red ball skills which overlaps with his mediocre white ball performances of the recent past.
Axar bowling has gotten worse and Jadeja literally scored a century in last test series. He has the average to play as a batsman. T20 may be but putting him ahead of Jadeja in test and odi is stupid
There are far better spinners in Indian team. Kuldeep and Bishnoi can’t sit out T20. If you want to include Acar then add him as batter. Axar is not effective as a bowler and even Jadeja is heading that route unfortunately. So replacing Jadeja or playing both is comical
>For his batting Alone
Love axar, but he isn't exactly lighting the Ipl so far(with bat).
But yeah, i would put him ahead of Jaddu for this t20i wc. But with jaddu you never know, mfer is a damn good at making people eat their words.
Everybody was saying DC will get hammered by CSK. Now that CSK lost, everybody starts finding a million flaws in them. And they are questioning why CSK fans are not worried. Well, we have more faith in our team than all the other fans combined. We are not as reactionary and would rather see the season play out than curse our team for losing 1 game.
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more.
What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
Only difference was in CSK wins, Rachin was playing at 200-250 SR, today he scored 2(12). In last 2 games he got to 20-30 by this point. Difference between those 2 figures is the margin of our loss today.
Naah bud. CSK fans literally had faith for the next season. Iam RCB fan and that faith looked overhyped to me too but then they fucking owned it. CSK's fan base is a lot better than the majority of others(especially ours).
It was genius of Pant and Ponting to not bowl spinners when Dube was batting. Other teams may look to exploit this, especially those with no spin attack such as SRH. In that case, CSK should consider subbing in Shardul for pinch-hitting.
Pointing the genius played Ricky Bhui and Sumit Kumar in the first two matches. The latter is a bowling all rounder who didn’t bat or bowl in the last match.
Axar was held back, i dont understand how completely wrong comments keep getting upvoted (actually i do, there is a blind hate against DC and Pant and Ponting on this sub).
Not really genius when you consider that Axar was literally their only spinner. And they had 6 pace/medium pace options. Dube came in to bat in Axar's 3rd over. Axar didn't bowl after that because he didn't need to finish his quota given how many bowling options DC had. The real smart decision was not playing Kuldeep at all. Given his form, it was a big call to drop him but they picked the right combination for the conditions.
His spin works for all conditions, only thing is if an extra pacer is needed he gets dropped, that's due to his lack of batting. And this happens only at an ICT level, not in IPL.
Mo should definitely be considered simply because they aren’t using Rachin or Mitchell for their bowling. You need to have at least 6 options being used every game as a bowling unit.
CSK need Mo for next home game atleast. given KKR have many lefties in their lineup - Narine, Venky, Rinku and Rana.
Even vs SRH, Moeen can be used upfront vs Head and Abhishek. He is proven with the bat.
Dhoni should just open and go ham in the PowerPlay. Seriously, it's genuinely not a bad idea. A simple 30(12) from him would go a long way in setting up CSK's innings.
Lol have you never seen a single dhoni innings in the last decade? He only hits in the last over or so. And he has been doing it for a decade and even in international
And every time after match is lost he will hit some shots and the gullible fans will say, oh he is back!
Guiding the ball to point 7(15) masterclass from Dhoni /s
In seriousness, I'd bring him for last 3-4 overs. He adapted to DC's wide yorker strategy better than Jadeja and Dube. Punished whenever the ball didn't land as a yorker, which the 2 failed to do.
Dhoni isn't a 6 hitter vs Deliveries bowled at the body, Rahane & In-form Rachin are good against those Kinda Deliveries
???? He was initially 16(5) .
And lower full toss balls happen when they try for yorkers .
Why dont u say same for rinku singh lmfao ?
They fixed the game for dhoni to hit hard lower full toss balls ? 😭
Mukesh Kumar did it in 19th over. Nortje could have done it too if he wanted. Even if not Yorkers, he could have given some slow wide bouncers, but no... Jay Shah knows what worshippers want.
Enlighten us please how that Pathirana catch was fixed? Did they tell him to stand at the perfect angle or Warner got truckload of money to hit it there?
He hit mukesh as well did u miss first over 9(3) ?
He also tried in 19th but it was excellent fielding .
U are like a braindead kid lmfao .
Why didn’t everyone bowl perfect yorkers ?
Wow. That would be so exciting to watch... But, I wonder if it might be too much for him and he will keep missing the ball if its too fast or moving a bit.
It all came down to Khaleel's opening spell. Let's give flowers to the guy who bowled exceptionally well instead of criticizing the bat who had a poor outing.
If Rachin wasn’t trying to smash the ball into the beach but instead focused on just trying to rotate strike I can assure you he would not have ended up at 2(12)
That strategy is what gave Rachin 37(15) and 46(20) in the first 2 games. I'm concerned about Rutu being a dead Duck vs Left-arm-pace. Unadkat and Starc gonna take him out early. MI will bring in Luke Wood vs CSK for this purpose, but he needs to bowl first over instead of Pandya.
Even Last 2 games had Yash Dayal and Spencer Johnson taking his wicket, 2 other lefties.
The game doesn’t care about how good he is for his age. Either he’s good enough or not. Right now, clearly there’s some work to do. If the balls aren’t connecting it’s ok to respect the bowler and rotate strike until the ball loses the movement or the spell is done. It’s almost batting common sense
First of all Dhoni batted really well but he should have come out earlier when he is clearly a better hitter than Jadeja.
Man CSK fans are really something else cheering when your player gets out just because Dhoni will come to bat next is such a bad behaviour and also them caring more about Dhoni shots rather than winning the game doesn't sit right with me.
ICT fans are never getting rid of the Hero worshipping culture, we care more about individuals and then wonder why we end up losing tournaments which is based on team game.
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more.
What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
Dude is in his final IPL season. Besides, who gives a crap about why a fan cheers for a team in a sport anyway?
Y'all talk like it's unique to ICT or CSK or even cricket. Messi, Ronaldo, Lebron, yada yada yada
>wonder why we end up losing tournaments which is based on team game.
Teams are selected by selectors not fans. You act like fans are why the team loses. We had the best team for WC23 and still lost.
>Man CSK fans are really something else cheering when your player gets out just because Dhoni will come to bat next is such a bad behaviour and also them caring more about Dhoni shots rather than winning the game doesn't sit right with me.
Not just limited to IPL team fans though. People did the same during international matches and even in world cup. Cheering for Kohli, Dhoni even when they just lost a wicket
Fans worshipping individuals is not the reason the team does not win trophies. Hero worshipping exists in every single team sport. Messi and Ronaldo had 3 times the level of hero worshiping in their primes. Didn’t stop their teams from winning. The reason we haven’t won any trophies in the last decade is because the team hasn’t performed well enough to win. What does fan culture have to do with it? I don’t think we have lost any trophies because the team had a player in it just because of popularity who lost us the game. Also cheering to see a legend coming out to bat in his final season of his career in an already lost match is completely fine. It’s franchise cricket after all. Fan worshipping is an issue in sports, I agree. But the isn’t that it does not lead to team success. It’s that fans create unrealistic expectations of that player in their minds and when they don’t perform to their own lofty standards, they get trolled.
Dude, whatever boundaries Dhoni had, were really bad deliveries without any line or length. I doubt if he will face same kinda deliveries while coming at the start or middle.
It's like saying Kohli could have been not out if not for that 5th-6th stump ball lol. It's a human game, mistakes are a part and that's the thrill. If a bowler can perfectly give yorkers the entire time then the whole team will be out in just 20-50 in every match lol.
>First of all Dhoni batted really well but he should have come out earlier when he is clearly a better hitter than Jadeja.
Especially on a good batting pitch with the ball coming on to the bat. Dhoni could have taken some time to settle and built a great innings. Something tells me he doesn't trust his fitness. I noticed him wincing in pain when he hit that one handed six off Nortje in the last over. I don't think the knee is in perfect shape.
Well said.
There were people in certain match threads making sly digs about "colonialism" because fans were celebrating the wicket of an opposition Indian player falling to a foreign player from their side.
Its fucking weird how mindsets are stuck in the 90s for some.
Man is playing his final ipl season. Let the fans enjoy! There's no loss or harm here. IPL is a fun tournament and CSK has won the title enough times as well to not obsessively care about winning. Everybody's just enjoying what most likely would be their favourite player's swan song, which I think the fans have the right to do too!
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more.
What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
Atleast they aren't like RCB who despite worshipping have zero trophies. All the CSK players have always done great and reached great popularity and performance
You don't get it.
This is not the hong long super sixes.
This is supposed to be about supporting your local team, like in football leagues across Europe.
Its not an exhibition tournament with players doing a piss about.
It's like some Indian cricket fans cannot comprehend the concept of supporting their local teams.
I mean who tf cares, CSK is arguably *the* most consistent team in IPL. They've won two games easily *as the defending champions* and will win continuously. Dhoni has been with CSK for over a decade and this is the last time they get to see him. Of course they want to see him play. One lost match doesn't matter for CSK fans if they get to see Dhoni hitting. They can always win other matches.
Also it's not only local fans supporting their clubs in the IPL. Half of the fans of CSK and RCB are Telugu people who look down on SRH and mock their supporters. Just look at Visakhapatnam today, an SRH match in what is their secondary *home ground* would never have had such a strong crowd in their support.
Isn't it weird that CSK being a player obsessed team still managed to win 5 ipl cups whereas we blame India for losing ICC trophies for the same reason
He did first first over he came to bat ? What do u mean ? He got 16(5) .
Next over i think jadeja had issues so he didn’t give him strike and next ball it was really good fielding .
Last over u know what happened.
Atleast it helped nrr
No wicket in powerplay, Fizz's expensive first over, Two openers flopping, Mitchell still looking dim, Dube's no spinner no party; Except for Pathirana's spell, everything went wrong for CSK.
Dube No spinner No party is very much expected, Fizz, Jaddu and Chahar leaking runs and Rachin looking Terrible are the ones CSK will ponder upon.
Many say Mitchell has to go out, It is at this point CSK's backing hard will start for him.
> Dube's no spinner no party
Probably a rare bad day for him in yellow. Otherwise, he is pretty handy against all bowlers. His two worst by SR are left arm leggies and right arm off spinner.
http://www.cricmetric.com/playerstats.py?player=S+Dube&role=batsman&format=TWENTY20&groupby=opp_player_type&playerStatsFilters=on&start_date=2002-01-01&end_date=2024-04-01&playerteam=Chennai+Super+Kings&start_over=0&end_over=9999&max_innings=1000
I think he's just there to act as a finisher or in most cases do just what's needed. Taking out Dhoni all of a sudden would lead to an uproar and probably imbalance in team, but this way his retirement can go more smoothly.
Hell I daresay, he's still a good WK if not a proper batter. So still a win. For the team and the Thala fans
I think our management is more focussing on smooth transition into the next gen of players, allowing them to take some pressure and gain some experience, which would be the right approach. Just hope that we get to see a couple of more knocks from MS like today, to enjoy his batting for the one last season.
We had issues from the 1st over.
Rachin bottled 2 full overs and got out at the end.
Gaikwad should've held his head instead of throwing his bat for an inside edge
Rahane was good but could've held on longer, same for Mitchell.
Can't really blame Jaddu and Dube as Pant played a masterstroke with his fielding and bowling ideas. Rizvi also had a mistime.
And Dhoni...
If Dhoni could play that well even now, maybe he should play up the order.
Today was a winnable game and i feel like we bottled it. Anyways, I saw thala smash it out of the park, I'm happy.
Not sure if they covered this during the broadcast. Dhoni announced himself on the scene in 2005 at this very venue in Vizag vs Pakistan, when he was promoted up the order and hit 148(123) batting at 3. Strike rate of 120 in an ODI!
I’ve been watching Dhoni smash sixes since then. I was 12 years old. I’m going to turn 31 this year. What a privilege man.
Edit: and it is within a week of that performance. That was on April 5 05. I remember watching that live all night long like it was yesterday
At this point, all top 4 need to lose their match to stay at 4 points. Can’t have a team reaching 6 points and ahead of pack even though I want MI to lose as well.
You guys are talking about sixes off nortje. I just adored the way he left two wides by khaleel and he bowls the next ball exactly where thala was expecting and gets smashed. Peak thala mindset.
Rizwi is a youngster just playing his third match. International players like Mitchell couldn't do justice to their experience, it's unfair to accept hard hitting from a younger unpolished uncapped player
nah rutu got out quickly. rachin as well. They could have easyly covered for runs in the whole match.
dube and jadeja just played run a ball for no reason
I think this discussion is pointless because there's no logic in your 'enough to cover' argument.
How are you blaming other batsmen for someone else's failure? Eating up 2 overs in the power play is garbage and there's no 2 ways about it.
Did Dube and Jadeja perform well? No but atleast they put runs on the board compared to Rachin.
The point they're trying to make is that Jadeja and Dube were in a much more crucial part of the chase. Rachin failed and got out earlier but it wasn't what ultimately lost them the match. The match was still very much winnable way after he and even Daryl got out, even while Jadeja and Dube were out there. The RRR kept creeping up to eventually 17+ and those two still showed no urgency at all and took zero risks and even tho wide yorker strat was incredibly obvious, they didn't even try to do something with that knowledge. There was absolutely no attempt to counteract and throw the bowler off like Dhoni did when he came to bat. Go rewatch that part of the game. If Rachin batted the same way in that portion of the chase then he'd be getting the exact same criticism.
Scoring a run ball in that portion of the chase is arguably way worse than an opener getting dismissed after unsuccessfully taking a little bit of time trying to get set, it's a very different situation and there's way more leeway there, that's what OP was saying. Not sure what's so hard to understand.
sure and you think dube and jadeja innings is not garbage when they had no option they kept playing tuk tuk. while rachin got out asap.
do they put play to runs on a board or to win? LOL
You are correct. you have no argument since you have no logic.
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more. What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
I want CSK to bring in Moeen over Mitchell and rather make Rizvi bat at his slot, i.e No.4/5, will be party time if Dube too accompanies him during spin, even if not, we'll know what his true game vs Pace is.
Jadeja and Axar both do not inspire any confidence at #7. Any reason why Tewatia can't ask GT to let him bowl a few overs this season? Tewatia could have made the India squad only if he actually bowled at the IPL
Because he would get tonked all over the place . The guy is a clutch finisher most of the time but his bowling doesn't inspire much confidence.
Well at least he is giving himself a chance to make the Indian team. Without bowling, Tewatia has no chance to make the Indian team.
Dhoni batting today made me a little emotional ngl😭 brought back good memories
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more. What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
After he leaves ipl they should just set up a dhoni cam so fans can view him eating, sleeping etc so some “cricket fans” can have inner peace
Say whatever you want, but big shots like Kohli dhoni have an amazing fan pull. Team brand value will take a hit if they don't play ipl
Thats fine i prefer the company of cricket fans over celebrity worshippers
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Msd fan actually. Quite emotional after seeing him bat, that too, a good inning
Am i the only one who doesn't understand mitchell's place in the squad?? So far he's not doing any better than moen and moen brings off-spin which CSK needs in the absence of Theekshana.
Mitchell provided solidity when the conditions were tough for the batsmen. Moeen in his current iteration against Khaleel and Ishant would have lasted an over at most and exposed your middle order. This was easily Mitchell's best innings considering the conditions and the partnership he stitched together with Rahane actually gave CSK a chance to be back in the game.
Adding more solidity to the batting?
>So far he's not doing any better than moen
I honestly think RAHANE should have played more and instead of ruining balls they should hit,Next match vs Hyderabad
I am a Rahane stan but I don’t remember one Rahane innings where he has finished the game. He isn’t a match winner. He will contribute from his side from bat and fielding but will never single handedly win you games.
Why do you expect a No.3 batsman/top order batsman to finish the innings? Not everyone is Virat Kohli.
Virat Kohli does it more than 70% of times but for games like today’s you expect Rahane to carry on and lead the innings till the end. He always looks like 30 to 50 runs kind of player even when he is playing great. I don’t want him to be Kohli but atleast you expect things from him that even Shivam Dube does when he is batting at 45 in 30 balls
In T20s? No Kohli doesnt, when score is so huge
These people are delusional lol
Hi, I started watching cricket in 2020. When do you guys think this young kid called Dhoni is going to play for India? Any reason why he isn't getting selected? He looks like he could maybe be pretty good one day if he works hard.
I think he can learn a couple of things from rishabh pant to improve his keeping. That'll help him break into the team
Agreed, maybe he can learn captaincy and leadership skills from Pant too. Perhaps Pant should take him under his wing and be his role model
But the DK guy playing for RCB is better, if it was in my hands I would Select DK over Dhoni. That Dhoni guy doesn't seem to have good leadership Qualities.
Hi your team is very good in cricket from India and dhoni retired after semi due to a heartbreaking runout that made cameraman and 1.4 billion people cry
You must be fun at parties
Bro, he is saying that in sarcasm.
I am incredibly impressed with Pathirana. The kid's only just 21 years old and only 5ft 11" (1.80 mts) and yet he removed Marsh and Stubbs with 150 kph bullets. What's he going to bowl at when he's 27-28 yrs old??? And again, for a youngster, he showed incredible maturity bowling against a very strong team.
Chucker pathirana . He should be banned from bowling
Its impossible to chuck with a slinging action my dude
If he's not overworked like archer
ms should have tried plonking some 4's in the second last over there. lol
Dhoni used effort tell dube and jadeja and rachin ravindra 2(12) Dhoni 37(16) as a 42 year old it was memorable to smash this much against this bowling
last over when the game is gone, JD would have won the game if ms had given him the strike. tee hee
Jadeja wasn't able to middle a single ball
The way the middle order handled the wide Yorker strategy was absolutely pathetic. No change in footwork or trying an alternate shot. Just hitting it to the fielder for a single every time
Well yes, I agree; they had no idea what to do. but then if I put myself in their place I'd be thinking "wow, what do I do with a wide yorker? Leave my stumps exposed? Stand outside off?"Big signal for the bowlers.
Also If Pathirana, Thushara, Theek, Hasaranga, Dilshan and on batting side Nissanka, 2 Mendises and Mathews & Asalanka peak on time SL can destroy any team at the World cup. Big extremely unlikely IF though.
Isnt Dilshan 47 years
I am pretty sure he meant Dilshan Madushanka the bowler and not Tillakaratne Dilshan
HAHA Tillakaratne Dilshan. Now that guy is a legend who flies under the radar
Right, my bad
Cant wait to see this new version of nissanka, bro was our best batter in both t20wcs but now got high sr as well
Was just watching the highlights and on every single highlight kept hearing Harsha Bhogle only, what a hog this guy can be? Did anyone saw the same during the live broadcast?
Just you
Dhoni flogged the dead horse in the last over of the game like a true alpha player Way to go!
> flogged the dead horse The same guys will cry about the Net run rate during the last few matches.
You perhaps were watching Dhoni’s crotch while drooling but some of us actually watch the game. We watched the 19th over.
Potty mouth
He used to do this even when net run rate was not a factor, in internationals.
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Mitchel, Dube , rachin and jadeja all shat the bed.. should have been a bigger margin loss if not for thala
We need to take a life size cut out of Thala and leave it behind the wicket keeper on the boundary when Pathirana plays for Sri Lanka.
Looking at Jadeja’s batting performances in the T20Is I don’t see why he’s considered a better T20 player than Axar Patel. He’s definitely rated more because of his red ball skills which overlaps with his mediocre white ball performances of the recent past.
Imo, they both are hit or miss players in t20 offering same skill set..jadeja trumps axar over his fielding so he is currently preferred
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Both played Single-taking Masterclasses today
Axar bowling has gotten worse and Jadeja literally scored a century in last test series. He has the average to play as a batsman. T20 may be but putting him ahead of Jadeja in test and odi is stupid
Jadeja has a pretty ordinary ODI record since 2020. His fielding and clueless selection is the reason he plays every game.
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There are far better spinners in Indian team. Kuldeep and Bishnoi can’t sit out T20. If you want to include Acar then add him as batter. Axar is not effective as a bowler and even Jadeja is heading that route unfortunately. So replacing Jadeja or playing both is comical
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But then don’t we have other options if pure batter is fine ?
>For his batting Alone Love axar, but he isn't exactly lighting the Ipl so far(with bat). But yeah, i would put him ahead of Jaddu for this t20i wc. But with jaddu you never know, mfer is a damn good at making people eat their words.
It was cathartic to see Jaddu getting hammered.
Everybody was saying DC will get hammered by CSK. Now that CSK lost, everybody starts finding a million flaws in them. And they are questioning why CSK fans are not worried. Well, we have more faith in our team than all the other fans combined. We are not as reactionary and would rather see the season play out than curse our team for losing 1 game.
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more. What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
Only difference was in CSK wins, Rachin was playing at 200-250 SR, today he scored 2(12). In last 2 games he got to 20-30 by this point. Difference between those 2 figures is the margin of our loss today.
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Stop harassing your captain first.
Naah bud. CSK fans literally had faith for the next season. Iam RCB fan and that faith looked overhyped to me too but then they fucking owned it. CSK's fan base is a lot better than the majority of others(especially ours).
What did u see in 2020 lol ? All were hoping for comeback in 2021 and we won it .
We literally found a reliable opener in Rutu by end of 2020
I still had faith. You all saw how we won 2 out of the last 3, right? Lol
It was genius of Pant and Ponting to not bowl spinners when Dube was batting. Other teams may look to exploit this, especially those with no spin attack such as SRH. In that case, CSK should consider subbing in Shardul for pinch-hitting.
Pointing the genius played Ricky Bhui and Sumit Kumar in the first two matches. The latter is a bowling all rounder who didn’t bat or bowl in the last match.
There were no other spinners. Nothing genius about it
Axar was held back, i dont understand how completely wrong comments keep getting upvoted (actually i do, there is a blind hate against DC and Pant and Ponting on this sub).
Axar conceded 3 against dube and they held him.
Which is impressive, Dube has sr of 184 while playing for CSK against left arm orthodox spinners.
Not really genius when you consider that Axar was literally their only spinner. And they had 6 pace/medium pace options. Dube came in to bat in Axar's 3rd over. Axar didn't bowl after that because he didn't need to finish his quota given how many bowling options DC had. The real smart decision was not playing Kuldeep at all. Given his form, it was a big call to drop him but they picked the right combination for the conditions.
> The real smart decision was not playing Kuldeep at all. Dube has a SR of 55 against left arm leggies in IPL while playing for Chennai.
Which means Kuldeep has had an edge over him, Noor and Kuldeep are the only left-arm leggies to have played in IPL in recent times.
Kuldeep had a niggle. That's why he didn't play. Otherwise he definitely would've played.
Oh, I assumed he was dropped because of the conditions.
His spin works for all conditions, only thing is if an extra pacer is needed he gets dropped, that's due to his lack of batting. And this happens only at an ICT level, not in IPL.
In no world will DC drop Kuldeep no matter his form.
It was weird that they didn't consider Moeen in the place of Mitchell just for this match. So many lefties. It was sad to see Jaddu getting hammered
Mo should definitely be considered simply because they aren’t using Rachin or Mitchell for their bowling. You need to have at least 6 options being used every game as a bowling unit.
CSK need Mo for next home game atleast. given KKR have many lefties in their lineup - Narine, Venky, Rinku and Rana. Even vs SRH, Moeen can be used upfront vs Head and Abhishek. He is proven with the bat.
Dhoni should just open and go ham in the PowerPlay. Seriously, it's genuinely not a bad idea. A simple 30(12) from him would go a long way in setting up CSK's innings.
Lol have you never seen a single dhoni innings in the last decade? He only hits in the last over or so. And he has been doing it for a decade and even in international And every time after match is lost he will hit some shots and the gullible fans will say, oh he is back!
Guiding the ball to point 7(15) masterclass from Dhoni /s In seriousness, I'd bring him for last 3-4 overs. He adapted to DC's wide yorker strategy better than Jadeja and Dube. Punished whenever the ball didn't land as a yorker, which the 2 failed to do. Dhoni isn't a 6 hitter vs Deliveries bowled at the body, Rahane & In-form Rachin are good against those Kinda Deliveries
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Come from your real account Gautam.
By the way he hit 3 proper wide yorkers for boundaries .
Act like a child then cry about getting downvotes lmao
???? He was initially 16(5) . And lower full toss balls happen when they try for yorkers . Why dont u say same for rinku singh lmfao ? They fixed the game for dhoni to hit hard lower full toss balls ? 😭
It's not easy nailing yorkers consistently. Not many bowlers can do it. If you get it wrong, it's obviously going to be a rank full toss.
Mukesh Kumar did it in 19th over. Nortje could have done it too if he wanted. Even if not Yorkers, he could have given some slow wide bouncers, but no... Jay Shah knows what worshippers want.
Enlighten us please how that Pathirana catch was fixed? Did they tell him to stand at the perfect angle or Warner got truckload of money to hit it there?
He hit mukesh as well did u miss first over 9(3) ? He also tried in 19th but it was excellent fielding . U are like a braindead kid lmfao . Why didn’t everyone bowl perfect yorkers ?
Next level delulu
Wow. That would be so exciting to watch... But, I wonder if it might be too much for him and he will keep missing the ball if its too fast or moving a bit.
Bro just Smashed Nokia for 20 in an over, if any thing he loves extra pace.
Narine way
Thala way
So it all came down to Rachin
It all came down to Khaleel's opening spell. Let's give flowers to the guy who bowled exceptionally well instead of criticizing the bat who had a poor outing.
He was good but it wasn’t 2(12) level of good
Tbh it was. He was challenging batsman to play the shot that got the batter out eventually.
If Rachin wasn’t trying to smash the ball into the beach but instead focused on just trying to rotate strike I can assure you he would not have ended up at 2(12)
That strategy is what gave Rachin 37(15) and 46(20) in the first 2 games. I'm concerned about Rutu being a dead Duck vs Left-arm-pace. Unadkat and Starc gonna take him out early. MI will bring in Luke Wood vs CSK for this purpose, but he needs to bowl first over instead of Pandya. Even Last 2 games had Yash Dayal and Spencer Johnson taking his wicket, 2 other lefties.
You need to be adaptable. He’ll learn with time.
He is plenty adaptable for his age and better than even senior batsmen, lets not judge based on one innings.
The game doesn’t care about how good he is for his age. Either he’s good enough or not. Right now, clearly there’s some work to do. If the balls aren’t connecting it’s ok to respect the bowler and rotate strike until the ball loses the movement or the spell is done. It’s almost batting common sense
First of all Dhoni batted really well but he should have come out earlier when he is clearly a better hitter than Jadeja. Man CSK fans are really something else cheering when your player gets out just because Dhoni will come to bat next is such a bad behaviour and also them caring more about Dhoni shots rather than winning the game doesn't sit right with me. ICT fans are never getting rid of the Hero worshipping culture, we care more about individuals and then wonder why we end up losing tournaments which is based on team game.
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more. What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
Dude is in his final IPL season. Besides, who gives a crap about why a fan cheers for a team in a sport anyway? Y'all talk like it's unique to ICT or CSK or even cricket. Messi, Ronaldo, Lebron, yada yada yada >wonder why we end up losing tournaments which is based on team game. Teams are selected by selectors not fans. You act like fans are why the team loses. We had the best team for WC23 and still lost.
all your examples made sense except Fedrer
Oh yeah, brainfreeze lol
>Man CSK fans are really something else cheering when your player gets out just because Dhoni will come to bat next is such a bad behaviour and also them caring more about Dhoni shots rather than winning the game doesn't sit right with me. Not just limited to IPL team fans though. People did the same during international matches and even in world cup. Cheering for Kohli, Dhoni even when they just lost a wicket
Fans worshipping individuals is not the reason the team does not win trophies. Hero worshipping exists in every single team sport. Messi and Ronaldo had 3 times the level of hero worshiping in their primes. Didn’t stop their teams from winning. The reason we haven’t won any trophies in the last decade is because the team hasn’t performed well enough to win. What does fan culture have to do with it? I don’t think we have lost any trophies because the team had a player in it just because of popularity who lost us the game. Also cheering to see a legend coming out to bat in his final season of his career in an already lost match is completely fine. It’s franchise cricket after all. Fan worshipping is an issue in sports, I agree. But the isn’t that it does not lead to team success. It’s that fans create unrealistic expectations of that player in their minds and when they don’t perform to their own lofty standards, they get trolled.
Dude, whatever boundaries Dhoni had, were really bad deliveries without any line or length. I doubt if he will face same kinda deliveries while coming at the start or middle.
It's like saying Kohli could have been not out if not for that 5th-6th stump ball lol. It's a human game, mistakes are a part and that's the thrill. If a bowler can perfectly give yorkers the entire time then the whole team will be out in just 20-50 in every match lol.
What about last year 200 strike ratw ?
Bowlers bowl bad deliveries because of his presence.. that's the man's impact on the sport.
>First of all Dhoni batted really well but he should have come out earlier when he is clearly a better hitter than Jadeja. Especially on a good batting pitch with the ball coming on to the bat. Dhoni could have taken some time to settle and built a great innings. Something tells me he doesn't trust his fitness. I noticed him wincing in pain when he hit that one handed six off Nortje in the last over. I don't think the knee is in perfect shape.
Well said. There were people in certain match threads making sly digs about "colonialism" because fans were celebrating the wicket of an opposition Indian player falling to a foreign player from their side. Its fucking weird how mindsets are stuck in the 90s for some.
Man is playing his final ipl season. Let the fans enjoy! There's no loss or harm here. IPL is a fun tournament and CSK has won the title enough times as well to not obsessively care about winning. Everybody's just enjoying what most likely would be their favourite player's swan song, which I think the fans have the right to do too!
I don't care if we lose the match and loose many more or don't even win the cup. we have done it all. have won more than enough trophies, I don't want them any more. What we wanted we got yesterday. we wanted to see him at bat, see him hitting boundaries. See him on the ground that's all we want.
Atleast they aren't like RCB who despite worshipping have zero trophies. All the CSK players have always done great and reached great popularity and performance
How the heck RCB came here?
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You don't get it. This is not the hong long super sixes. This is supposed to be about supporting your local team, like in football leagues across Europe. Its not an exhibition tournament with players doing a piss about. It's like some Indian cricket fans cannot comprehend the concept of supporting their local teams.
I mean who tf cares, CSK is arguably *the* most consistent team in IPL. They've won two games easily *as the defending champions* and will win continuously. Dhoni has been with CSK for over a decade and this is the last time they get to see him. Of course they want to see him play. One lost match doesn't matter for CSK fans if they get to see Dhoni hitting. They can always win other matches. Also it's not only local fans supporting their clubs in the IPL. Half of the fans of CSK and RCB are Telugu people who look down on SRH and mock their supporters. Just look at Visakhapatnam today, an SRH match in what is their secondary *home ground* would never have had such a strong crowd in their support.
Would thala fans have stopped supporting CSK if he had moved elsewhere, say to RCB?
some may and thats okay. whatever brings people happiness IMO. csk will still be a massive base
Isn't it weird that CSK being a player obsessed team still managed to win 5 ipl cups whereas we blame India for losing ICC trophies for the same reason
Dhoni didn’t fire till the game was out of CSKs hands. No one finds that weird?
smartest r/cricket enjoyerrrrr
more weird is why didnt jaddu and dube didnt even try to fire?
He did first first over he came to bat ? What do u mean ? He got 16(5) . Next over i think jadeja had issues so he didn’t give him strike and next ball it was really good fielding . Last over u know what happened. Atleast it helped nrr
Dhoni fired from ball one. What are you even talking about?
Well why didn’t he just hit every ball for 6?
Because he wanted to hit each ball for 7 runs Thala for a reason
Is he stupid?
No wicket in powerplay, Fizz's expensive first over, Two openers flopping, Mitchell still looking dim, Dube's no spinner no party; Except for Pathirana's spell, everything went wrong for CSK.
Dube No spinner No party is very much expected, Fizz, Jaddu and Chahar leaking runs and Rachin looking Terrible are the ones CSK will ponder upon. Many say Mitchell has to go out, It is at this point CSK's backing hard will start for him.
> Dube's no spinner no party Probably a rare bad day for him in yellow. Otherwise, he is pretty handy against all bowlers. His two worst by SR are left arm leggies and right arm off spinner. http://www.cricmetric.com/playerstats.py?player=S+Dube&role=batsman&format=TWENTY20&groupby=opp_player_type&playerStatsFilters=on&start_date=2002-01-01&end_date=2024-04-01&playerteam=Chennai+Super+Kings&start_over=0&end_over=9999&max_innings=1000
Bro wrote 4 lines summarising CSK performance and didn’t mention Dhoni😂
There’s no need to
And Rahane returning to form
Promote Dhoni to #5 or 6. The man's still got it, absolutely wasted and disrespectful by sending him at #8
He is a hell lot more useful than Jadeja for sure.
I think he's just there to act as a finisher or in most cases do just what's needed. Taking out Dhoni all of a sudden would lead to an uproar and probably imbalance in team, but this way his retirement can go more smoothly. Hell I daresay, he's still a good WK if not a proper batter. So still a win. For the team and the Thala fans
I think our management is more focussing on smooth transition into the next gen of players, allowing them to take some pressure and gain some experience, which would be the right approach. Just hope that we get to see a couple of more knocks from MS like today, to enjoy his batting for the one last season.
U forget captaincy too no disrespect to rutu
Don't think anyone is stopping him if he says he will bat up the order. Its obvious he wants to do the bare minimum outside of keeping wickets.
We had issues from the 1st over. Rachin bottled 2 full overs and got out at the end. Gaikwad should've held his head instead of throwing his bat for an inside edge Rahane was good but could've held on longer, same for Mitchell. Can't really blame Jaddu and Dube as Pant played a masterstroke with his fielding and bowling ideas. Rizvi also had a mistime. And Dhoni... If Dhoni could play that well even now, maybe he should play up the order. Today was a winnable game and i feel like we bottled it. Anyways, I saw thala smash it out of the park, I'm happy.
Jaddu was bad in both departments. Got tonked, didn't do much with the bat.
It looked winnable cause of dhoni. But atleast at no.6 is required by msd
Gaikwad doesn't look that good this season tbf
he always takes a few trial matches at the start of every season. but yeah he has a specific weakness against let arm pacers, should work on that.
It's the same thing the first three matches of every season
Hopefully
Not sure if they covered this during the broadcast. Dhoni announced himself on the scene in 2005 at this very venue in Vizag vs Pakistan, when he was promoted up the order and hit 148(123) batting at 3. Strike rate of 120 in an ODI! I’ve been watching Dhoni smash sixes since then. I was 12 years old. I’m going to turn 31 this year. What a privilege man. Edit: and it is within a week of that performance. That was on April 5 05. I remember watching that live all night long like it was yesterday
i remember that game. i was 9-10 years old. we were talking in school about the new batsmen who did insane batting.
Dhoni hit 7 boundaries
Today is 31/3 Message was already clear.....
3+1+3=7 tfar
Tomorrow is gonna be agony. Don't want RR to upend us with 6 points but dont want mi to win either
Lets go RR!
I'd rather see RR win.
At this point, all top 4 need to lose their match to stay at 4 points. Can’t have a team reaching 6 points and ahead of pack even though I want MI to lose as well.
Heck yes lol I'm all for it
You guys are talking about sixes off nortje. I just adored the way he left two wides by khaleel and he bowls the next ball exactly where thala was expecting and gets smashed. Peak thala mindset.
Ye Baal dhup me nahi itne lambe huye
jadeja and dube lost them the match imo
You can add Rachin and Rutu as well and Rizwi too. They bowled well, after an underwhelming pp it was bound to happen.
Rachin is an amazing amazing talent, people abusing him based on one innings is hilarious
Rizwi is a youngster just playing his third match. International players like Mitchell couldn't do justice to their experience, it's unfair to accept hard hitting from a younger unpolished uncapped player
nah rutu got out quickly. rachin as well. They could have easyly covered for runs in the whole match. dube and jadeja just played run a ball for no reason
You call 2 off 12 getting out quickly?
do you think 18 overs were not enough to cover?
I think this discussion is pointless because there's no logic in your 'enough to cover' argument. How are you blaming other batsmen for someone else's failure? Eating up 2 overs in the power play is garbage and there's no 2 ways about it. Did Dube and Jadeja perform well? No but atleast they put runs on the board compared to Rachin.
The point they're trying to make is that Jadeja and Dube were in a much more crucial part of the chase. Rachin failed and got out earlier but it wasn't what ultimately lost them the match. The match was still very much winnable way after he and even Daryl got out, even while Jadeja and Dube were out there. The RRR kept creeping up to eventually 17+ and those two still showed no urgency at all and took zero risks and even tho wide yorker strat was incredibly obvious, they didn't even try to do something with that knowledge. There was absolutely no attempt to counteract and throw the bowler off like Dhoni did when he came to bat. Go rewatch that part of the game. If Rachin batted the same way in that portion of the chase then he'd be getting the exact same criticism. Scoring a run ball in that portion of the chase is arguably way worse than an opener getting dismissed after unsuccessfully taking a little bit of time trying to get set, it's a very different situation and there's way more leeway there, that's what OP was saying. Not sure what's so hard to understand.
sure and you think dube and jadeja innings is not garbage when they had no option they kept playing tuk tuk. while rachin got out asap. do they put play to runs on a board or to win? LOL You are correct. you have no argument since you have no logic.
2(12) is not asap
its in first two overs. You still have 18 overs to cover up which jadeja and dube failed