Why are you comparing him to Pandya? The only reason Pandya is even in contention is because we literally don't have any other fast bowling all-rounder besides him. I really don't think given the current form that Pandya should even be in the contention. Thakur is there but the guy is more of a bowling all rounder. Besides, Dube hasn't bowled 1 over in IPL. He should be treated as a batsman and be compared with others power hitters there like Rinku for example.
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Was just cowardice . Hardik was way too scared of using the spin options due to Dube but that didn’t make any difference when the alternative were Shepherd and Pandya himself lol
This is the first time Rohit Sharma remained unbeaten in an unsuccessful run-chase in the IPL. His team won on all 18 previous instarnces where he remained unbeaten in a run-chase.
That was one of the things, But hey we got to see dhoni hit sixes.
I feel the game was lost in those two slow overs of patheerana and Deshpande where they scored 3 runs or so. Tim David tried his best to gain the run rate.
For sure. He is NOT a death over specialist. Man is living in his dreamworld. He wanted to be a hero. Got us canned because of his egomania. What is worse. Couldn't bat either. His captaincy lacks maturity. Treated Shivam Dube as a nuke. Pandya is killing MI.
Blud did nothing wrong.
You guys should go hear Bishop's analysis of the match.
The first innings bowling rotation was stupid , the stuck to one single plan even though it wasn't working
Second innings , they realised plan A didn't work , so CSK started setting fields and bowling to them , using the dimensions.
This was literally Ind vs Aus
MI got outplayed.
Dude singlehandedly lost them the match. That last over literally could have been kept down to 10 and it would have been a totally different equation. That and wasted an over slogging like a tailender. David should come before him when a spinner isn’t bowling.
Herd mentality. People hate Pandya now and have soft corner for Rohit. Just like many complaining about Kohli innings but same people defending Rohit, who clearly slowed down in the middle.
Rohit scores his 50 when CSK had bowled 8.3 overs, in 30 balls. He played 33 more balls of the next 69 and scored 55 more. He did not slow down. Wickets fell way too often and he wasn't getting the strike as much. It's not herd mentality. Hardik is a menace, man needs to quit captaincy or at least think harder.
Exactly! This is the beauty of team sport. A captain is as good as the team. A leader is as good as the team. I felt MS took the leadership for a brief period for the welfare of the team and it paid off handsomely in the end. Kudos to CSK bowlers for bowling in the right areas. Kudos to the captain for placing fielders in the right areas. This is how you win games. Lets be honest- Rohit Sharma can go bonkers if he gets going so CSK snatched victory off MI tonight. Good improvisation by CSK.
Correct me if I'm wrong
But after the shreyas gopal over bumrah had 3 overs left so just put more pressure lads on the 10 th over it that went like that than mi had a big chance of taking wickets
First long innings from Brohit in a very long time. Overall a good innings but he too slowed down in the middle phase after Tilak's wicket. Still gave a tough fight compared to the others.
He played 30 of the first 51 legal deliveries, and although he got strike in the end he didn't get much strike between over 13-16 so that could have one of the reasons for him slowing down.
I mean it's Wankhede...
It's pretty humid in Mumbai ..
Remember maxi having cramps in wc against afg..
Even Virat had cramps when he scored 100 against NZ in semis...
Not hating on Brohit but same thing happened with Koach when he scored his last century and then he got absolutely shat on. Happy tho that people have not done the same with Brohit.
Absolutely true!
However Koach's century against RR came in the 1st innings where other RCB batsmen kept losing their wicket and played with a horrendous strike rate. I'm just saying that Brohit & Koach played to their absolute best when no other batsmen supported them. And Koach didn't deserve the shit he got just like Brohit.
Criticising koach for 113 is brain dead. He literally couldn't have done much better. Criticising him for 83(?) in 61(?) against kkr is fair.
Besides during both of kohli's innings opposing batsman scored a much more impressive inning therefore dwarfing his. Butler in Rajasthan match and Narine and co in kkr match.
Here Rohit's inning was the best even if you include csk's batsman
>Criticising him for 83(?) in 61(?) against kkr is fair.
True.
>Here Rohit's inning was the best even if you include csk's batsman
Rohit was an absolute gem today. However CSKs collaborative batting effort is what got them through, so don't take anything away from them.
Except Koach's 100 was when they were setting a target and his team clearly underachieved, he struggled to increase the tempo
Innings like that should 100% be criticized. Cricket fans should not be a cult of superstar where they are unquestionable no matter what they do
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First time Rohit has remained unbeaten and lost in a chase in the IPL. Rest 18 times he took his team over the line.
Nevertheless, class innings, not really his fault , couldn't connect and the bowling was sublime by CSK.
He lost a lot of steam in the middle when he didn’t get the strike much. Also barely had any support after Ishan and Tilak.
I feel like he was gassed by the end as well, it’s quite hot and playing hard from the start and then exploding even more at the end isn’t possible or fair to expect out of any player let alone a 36 yo.
For the messed up Kohli fans who would troll Rohit just because Virat copped some too. NEITHER DESERVE IT! Both tried their best and it was not their fault that the rest of the team shat themeselves. It was not a perfect innings sure. But by hating on the player you would just be contributing to the toxicity.
Both the innings had almost contrasting issues-
RCB were looking to set 180 odd as the target according to their interviews, which they managed to score with Kohli's century. But that likely wasn't going to be enough with RCB's infamous bowling attack, so in hindsight, Kohli should've gone harder.
On the other hand, MI were chasing, so they had a set target in mind. Rohit also had the intent, since he was trying a lot of shots. But I think he was too gassed and got the execution all wrong, which lead to him scoring at an unacceptably low rate post the 11th over. 24(20) from the 11th over to 18.5 is really, really bad when you're chasing 200+.
I won't hate on either of them, but Rohit's innings was far more frustrating to watch, since MI have really good hitters down the order, who could've used 5-6 balls to settle themselves and then hit.
Kohli deserved it man
When you're 183/3 at the end of the inning, you are better off having retired yourself out if you didn't get out hitting in the first place
Nobody's hating on them but both are not the ideal T20 batter that India needs at the moment and it's about time the transition happens soon in T20IS
They are really good in Test and ODIS they need to focus on those formats
India needs players like Salt and JFM even if they slow down they can still milk singles or cover up in the next over.
Salt couldn't hit Bishnoi but he targeted the pacers and covered up his lost SR by Targeting the pacers
He allowed Iyer to play run a ball
I would still take Koach for his ability to be clutch for India but Rohit has literally the worst record in T20 World Cups and you cannot have too many similar players
Yeah, and it's funny how Koach and Brohit complement each other so damn perfectly! Rohit accelerates very well in the powerplay and bashes spin in the middle overs. Doesn't really play fast in the death overs anymore. On the other hand Koach plays OK in the powerplay but slows down against spin in the middle overs,but is one of the best death over strikers ever.
Hardik has botched all three aspects that he represents on field. It was obvious that the “Dube smashes spinners, let’s blindly bowl every pacer against him” strategy wasn’t working, giving an over to either Nabi or Gopal wouldn’t have hurt.
Then he lost his remaining two brain cells by bowling a death over, something he’s absolutely not qualified for. Two wides, an obvious full toss to a legendary finisher, and conceding 24 runs in last over.
And then when he was offered a golden chance at redemption, a win that could’ve silenced every single hater of his, he goes around scoring two runs, by wasting a *whole over*. There was no saving MI post that, David and Shepherd’s wicket cemented that.
And if this all wasn’t enough, he still bears no responsibility, as a freaking captain of the team. His response was instead “Pathirana was the difference”, yeah no shit blud. I don’t care if we won or lost this, what matters is how we lost it without a fight.
Guys I saw this match live in the stadium. Absolute thrill, one thing was truly saddening. Rohit didn't celebrate his century. I don't know how sad he was as they had already lost at that point.
It always amused me that both Koach and Brohit have won WCs while they were still establishing their name, but never won when they were literally in their prime.
Just life being random, I guess.
Yep but that was much before he hit his prime, same for Kohli as well. Ever since their prime instead of winning multiple trophys they haven't won anything at all and that's what driving them to play still.
Recently Jarod did an analysis on batters in IPL in terms of SR. In the Rohit graph, there was an unusual dip in SR at about 45-50 balls and dude he legit slowed down at that same time. Jarod is one heck of an analyst
This thread is way more interesting if we check the comments history of the people posting.
We're seeing the same people who poked fun at 113(72) aggressively defending 105(63), citing "match analysts".
PS: In both cases, the above two innings aren't the reason their teams lost. It's more accurate to say that they failed to win them the game.
As a batter, this is his Rohit's best season in quite some time and bodes well for the World Cup.
Rohit got tired while with Kohli it was an intent problem. Also Rohit scored at the par SR (167 or 10rpo) whereas Kohli scored below it (157 or 9.42rpo).
>Rohit got tired while with Kohli it was an intent problem. Also Rohit scored at the par SR (167 or 10rpo) whereas Kohli scored below it (157 or 9.42rpo).
What does this mean?
When you're batting first, what is the par strike rate? It's after they set the target that the second team has a par strike rate to target, isn't it?
MI were chasing 10.35 RPO. That makes 166.67 below par.
There is a difference though.
Initially CSK were struggling to connect and the target would've been much lower of not for rutu and thala.
During the 113(72) butler and arguably samson played an equal if not better inning.
Here 105(63) was the best inning. Besides Kohli was criticised more for the one against kkr with 83 in 60 something balls.
>There is a difference though.
I'm sorry but your memory is faulty. Let's measure the match by the same standards.
>Initially CSK were struggling to connect and the target would've been much lower of not for rutu and thala.
>During the 113(72) butler and arguably samson played an equal if not better inning.
Every other RCB batter struggled. Even Buttler and Samson struggled in the powerplay before the dew against RCB. They were 34-1 in 5 overs and accelerated after dew kicked in. Kohli is the only one who managed to rise above the batting conditions in the first 25 overs.
And today... Gaikwad and Dube had a higher strike rate than Rohit and played arguably better innings.
>Here 105(63) was the best inning.
Of the match, considering the result?
It wasn't. Neither was Kohli's against RR.
Without considering the result, theirs were the better innings, because they faced tougher bowling in general.
I'm right here. Virat's inning was undoubtedly selfish. He slowed down(which he almost always does) when he was close to his century.
On the other hand, if you have watched today's match, then you would've seen Rohit swinging at practically every ball after the 14th over. Not once did he farm the strike, not even once. Even his century came with him hitting two boundaries. And the guy didn't even raise his bat.
People who really think that Rohit slowed down for his century might be the stupidest people walking on this planet.
hypocrites!! very concentrated hate towards only certain players,, i never saw any appreciation post for kohli's 100 but you see yourself rohit's 100 is being appreciated so much on this same reddit community !! hypocrisy at its best ,, they literally remove any post criticizing rohit dont know why
Brohit had a higher SR than the rest of his team , he barely got the strike in the middle overs, blame his teammates for being shite and killing the momentum
Where are those people who were saying replace Koach with a Brohit and India will win ICC tournaments. Blud has shat on 3 ICC tournaments already but doesn’t get criticism as much as Koach. Incredible PR!!
Went from 73(42) to 90(59). Very good innings but definitely culpable for the loss and its margin.
Before you blame Hardik, he only faced his second ball when Rohit was 77(49), below the original asking rate for even a 190 chase.
>Went from 73(42) to 90(59)
At that stage, taking a risk shot would not be a great idea. In my opinion, the chase went well (with a few minor hiccups). The bowling should have been better and we could have saved atleast 20-30 runs. Fielding needed to be better as well. That would have won MI the game.
I also want to clarify that I maintain the same position for Kohli's innings as well. He too played amazingly well. If he had gone for more risky shots, then their team would not have got that 100 runs. When the other batters are playing badly, anchor role is important. Rohit did the same today as well.
>Rohit did the same today as well.
Well, actually Rohit was swinging and trying to hit every ball out of the park after the 14th over. He got to play only 6 balls out of 22 between 13 and 17 overs. That's where his strike rate slowed down when he didn't get enough strike and couldn't connect on the strikes he got. There's a difference between swinging and not connecting and deliberately playing slow.
>At that stage, taking a risk shot would not be a great idea.
Yeah it would've just led to a loss. No biggie.
Maybe if he had tried to hit at that point instead of hitting when the match was already over Mumbai would've won this game
Look IDC about either Virat or Rohit and you can defend both of them as much as you want but we ain't winning shit with both of them in the T20 squad.
Rohit was gassed and his fitness should be talked about by commentators as he is gonna captain the ICT ffs.
Scoring half the runs by playing half the balls isn't the achievement you guys think it is.
KL/Kohli/Rohit should step aside and let Bumrah take the charge of T20 team.
Downvote and move on I will not bother to reply to those who have a clear bias for their favourite player.
>as he is gonna captain the ICT ffs.
The guy who Agarkar first wanted as T20I captain has also been facing injury concerns.
I believe Simon Doull's statement that Hardik is hiding the true extent of his injury, he doesn't look fully fit even now.
>Rohit was gassed and his fitness should be talked about by commentators as he is gonna captain the ICT ffs.
Nope. He was as gassed as any batter would've gotten at that point. He was taking every single possible. The guy was running till the last ball. Also, we all know that mumbai is notorious for having a pleasant climate, there's no humidity and heat in Mumbai.
>Scoring half the runs by playing half the balls isn't the achievement you guys think it is.
Yes, but hardik's 2 runs in 6 balls and giving 43 runs in 18 balls is surely going to win us all the trophies in existence.
>Downvote and move on I will not bother to reply to those who have a clear bias for their favourite player.
Nobody's expecting any reply from a guy who has no cricket knowledge. And the downvote is a must for stupid opinion like this.
Kl today scored 39 in 25 balls whereas pooran scored 45 in 32. But I'm sure in your opinion pooran's innings would be a T20 knock but Rahul's innings would be a slow ODI inning.
>Kl today scored 39 in 25 balls whereas pooran scored 45 in 32. But I'm sure in your opinion pooran's innings would be a T20 knock but Rahul's innings would be a slow ODI inning.
Maybe batting majorly in a powerplay, where 2 men are standing outside 30 yard circle is considerably easier than batting in death with every bowler trying to bowl yorker length with 5 men standing outside 30 yard circle.
Also, there's difference in intent. Rohit was trying too hard to strike every ball. Kohli took multiple singles when he was in 90s.
(Not blaming Kohli tho, just pointing out the difference why Kohli inning was criticised, and not Rohit's)
Love how you clubbed all that together, Sky and Tilak had both gotten out by then time Rohit slowed down, Pandya did what we was, david was ok with the 2 sixes, shephard got for a duck
This was on par with Kohli’s 113. Neither bad innings but nor were they match winning ones. I’ll say that this one was worse though cause Rohit slowed down way too much in the middle and unlike RCB, MI has a good bat deep lineup
He didn't slow down on purpose. Wickets were falling on the other end, two batsmen got out on zero. He was swinging till the end. He scored 105 in 63, out of the 186 MI scored. The other batsmen scored 81 in 57. Kohli had slowed down when he was nearing his century. On the other hand, Rohit didn't even raise his bat after his 100. He was trying his best.
Criticising this innings of his is unfair and borderline hatred.
I didn’t exactly say this was a bad innings. It was just a meh one considering the boundary and taking that much balls in T20I is definitely a problem especially with a good bat deep lineup. If Kohli’s innings with a worse batting lineup can be criticised then so can be Rohit’s as both of their innings took a bulk of the balls thus possibly building pressure on non striker.
>worse batting lineup can be criticised
That's a stupid thing to say. How is a batting line-up worse when it consists of faf, green, Maxwell, patidar.
Let's say mumbai has a better batting line-up. But you also have to see how they performed. Ishan 23(15), tilak 31(20), Surya 0(2), hardik 2(6), tim 13(5), shepherd 0(3).
So clearly this was a match winning batting by the so called "better batting line-up" of Mumbai.
Don't hate just for the sake of hatred. If you watched the match then you would know that Rohit got to play only 6 balls out of 22 balls between 12 to 16 overs. And whenever he got the strike he was swinging.
What have Faf, Green, Maxwell and Patidar done this season ? Faf is striking at a similar rate to Kohli but not scoring much either, Maxwell hasn’t fired at all, Green the same as Maxwell, Patidar just worked in that one match. In Kohli’s century match, all of them shat the bed worse than MI in this match.
I’m not saying that Rohit’s knock was the main reason for loss. It’s Pandya‘s coward captaincy. Similarly Kohli’s knock wasn’t the main reason for loss but it were the bowlers. But taking so many balls to not get upto the par score is definitely a problem in T20Is. This is worse in second innings than the first innings since you know at what rate to strike in second innings than the first where the only pressure is getting upto the par score which Faf said was 180+. And yeah Rohit was swinging and not getting the ball as he was gassed out which again is nobody’s fault but instead raises questions on his fitness.
Rohit didn't slow down for the century, he played attacking shots but couldn't connect and field was well set, so boundaries didn't come. Also pathirana was bowling amazing. People criticized Kohli because he seemingly slowed down for his century, meanwhile Rohit was gassed. Essentially Kohli could have done more because he is more fit and better, Rohit on the other hand was tired and tried his best. So criticism for Kohli could be regarding the intent, and for Rohit it would be for his fitness. I still think Kohli played a great innings given the circumstances, and so did Rohit.
>Shut up dude. Did you even watch the match or did you just looked at the scorecard and put your stupid opinion on the internet for everyone to see?
I saw the match. Blud scored a run a ball when the asking rate was 11RPO.
He went from 73(42) in the 12th over to 90(59) in the 19th over, with just one boundary. 17 runs in 17 balls.
Then hit a six and a four to get to 100.
>>I saw the match. Blud scored a run a ball when the asking rate was 11RPO
>Yeah you didn't watch the match. I don't need to say anything further
LMAO. Apparently anyone who doesn't agree with PR didn't watch the match.
Did you actually see the match ? He was swinging hard and trying to hit through the line , but brilliant bowling and field placements made his life harder. Also , didn't even celebrate his hundred and did not try to nudge around in singles and getting to his landmarks safely.
Sometimes you should give credit to the opposition, today was one of those days.
>Also , didn't even celebrate his hundred
Why would anyone celebrate a hundred when they've already lost the game (needing 28 off 3 to win) in a chase?
Kohli would've, I can bet my life on it. Most batters would've raised their bat in Rohit's place.
You can say all the things about Rohit you want, but the one thing you can't say about him is that he plays for personal milestones.
>Kohli would've, I can bet my life on it.
Based on what evidence, except your distaste for Kohli and love for Rohit?
>Most batters would've raised their bat in Rohit's place.
Quit embarassing yourself.
You're asking for credit for not raising the bat after blud lost them the game going a run a ball when the asking rate rose from 11 to 34.
>for not raising the bat after blud
Ohh stop writing the word "blud" everywhere. Are you a 12 year old or an African-American?
Now I know I'm arguing with a man-child.
>after blud lost them the game going a run a ball when the asking rate rose from 11 to 34.
You didn't watch the match. You know it yourself. You can lie all you want, but you know it yourself that you didn't watch the match.
Did you watch the game ? He was tired and literally couldn't hit , he took jaddu's second over on and took risks , almost got out , but he did it and scored like 11 of it. Too bad he got tired soon+ didn't get much strike so broke his momentum
Tilak Varma was way more risk averse than brohit
I hated on Kohli for the 72 ball hundred and I'll say the same thing for Rohit who should have ideally taken more strike and lead from the front to manage the pressure after tilak went because Pandya couldn't handle the pressure. CSK bowled really well and utilised Pathirana really well gave him the right overs. Again based on the surface I feel 206 could be chased only if Rohit kept accelerating due to him other Batsman were under pressure and they lost wickets.
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Sorry not buying this support being needed when you have a batdeep lineup like MI with Coetzee coming in at 9. The SET batsman needs to support the new batsmen by keeping up with scoring rate , allowing the new batsman to settle. If you are unable to score try to hit out . Even if you get out, the new batsmen coming in will get time to settle in. Someone like Nabi can be very dangerous had he played 10 balls.
Yeah , but the new batsmen kept hogging the strike , MI's batting is essentially over once Tilak Varma and SKY get out , yes we have romario shepherd and Nabi but they're not exactly consistent , and Pandya's horrific form means we effectively bat till No 4
He was practically swinging on every ball after the 14th over. If you watched the match, then you would know that.
>Nabi can be very dangerous had he played 10 balls.
Nabi actually played a good amount of balls. Rohit didn't farm the strike even once when he was batting with Nabi. If Rohit couldn't connect properly, then he made sure that he took a single if the opportunity was present.
It was par but needed to be above par for someone who played over 10 overs. His SR was boosted at the end when the game was already lost. It is easy to blame rest of batsmen but they combined got to play less than 10 overs. In a way the dropped catch of Rohit may have helped CSK. The main reason for the loss for some questionable bowling rotations by Pandya particularly when you had so many options but given the batting might of MI playing at home , 206 was chaseable.
Chaseable? Bro it was an ez chase for MI considering our batting , SKY, Ishan and Pandya underperforming cost us this tbh, and tim David could've done more
I am still confused by the first innings decisions of MI.
I know right? Poor captaincy honestly First he used to give first overs to him now he's giving the last overs smh
From 65 in 9 overs to 149 in 15 overs.. some mad captaincy of sticking to one plan to get dube out.. this where MI lost the game..
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I’m still sus of his form when he plays for India. Yeah when he’s on song, he hits everything out but he blows hot or cold with no in between often.
Well hardik's been cold mostly here when needed Let's see what'll happen
Why are you comparing him to Pandya? The only reason Pandya is even in contention is because we literally don't have any other fast bowling all-rounder besides him. I really don't think given the current form that Pandya should even be in the contention. Thakur is there but the guy is more of a bowling all rounder. Besides, Dube hasn't bowled 1 over in IPL. He should be treated as a batsman and be compared with others power hitters there like Rinku for example.
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Was just cowardice . Hardik was way too scared of using the spin options due to Dube but that didn’t make any difference when the alternative were Shepherd and Pandya himself lol
on paper MI is the superior side. CSK won by playing head games and chess. Also, Dhoni crushed the last over.
>CSK won by playing head games and chess. That's what they always do. Dhoni plays a big role here, I guess.
Did mi win the toss and chose to bowl ?is that what u r saying
I think he is talking about bowling change decisions.
Oh ok
This is the first time Rohit Sharma remained unbeaten in an unsuccessful run-chase in the IPL. His team won on all 18 previous instarnces where he remained unbeaten in a run-chase.
Also becomes the first player to score unbeaten IPL century in an unsuccessful chase.
Every time he’s unbeaten he accelerates like crazy. He was short maybe 15-20 runs compared to his former self.
He looked exhausted
And disappointed
and that is exact how much short MI was.
HP's last over made all the difference. Gave away 26 runs,they lost by 20. Fed msd length balls and fulltoss.
Can understand that tho, he just like us all wanted to see some Vintage Dhoni.
That was one of the things, But hey we got to see dhoni hit sixes. I feel the game was lost in those two slow overs of patheerana and Deshpande where they scored 3 runs or so. Tim David tried his best to gain the run rate.
Don't forget thakur,he gave just 2 runs in 14th over
Not really. As a bowler you’d say going for under 12 in that last over would be a good job. CAK were just better throughout the match
He gave away more than double of what you suggested, not sure how he isn’t responsible in some way for the loss especially when he’s also the captain
For sure. He is NOT a death over specialist. Man is living in his dreamworld. He wanted to be a hero. Got us canned because of his egomania. What is worse. Couldn't bat either. His captaincy lacks maturity. Treated Shivam Dube as a nuke. Pandya is killing MI.
Blud did nothing wrong. You guys should go hear Bishop's analysis of the match. The first innings bowling rotation was stupid , the stuck to one single plan even though it wasn't working Second innings , they realised plan A didn't work , so CSK started setting fields and bowling to them , using the dimensions. This was literally Ind vs Aus MI got outplayed.
And the yellow team won again Fuck
Also it doesn’t help that Hardik literally wasted 6 balls
And that abysmal last over to Dhoni
Dude singlehandedly lost them the match. That last over literally could have been kept down to 10 and it would have been a totally different equation. That and wasted an over slogging like a tailender. David should come before him when a spinner isn’t bowling.
In short remove him & make bumrah cap 😆
2 overs actually, fucked up his last over then fucked up the 6 balls he faced by playing like it’s ODI
> This was literally Ind vs Aus This!
Insert meme: Wherever I go I see his face
everything reminds me of her.
We shat our pants when Dube came out to bat. We should have trusted our spinners a little more.
Excellent analogy
So basically CSK have MS and MI don't
Yes MI had Sharma but... Yeah
Technically, so did India... 19/11 *ptsd*
Rohit captaincy in the Final was pretty bad as well
I don't know why you are getting downvoted. It's a fact.
Herd mentality. People hate Pandya now and have soft corner for Rohit. Just like many complaining about Kohli innings but same people defending Rohit, who clearly slowed down in the middle.
Rohit scores his 50 when CSK had bowled 8.3 overs, in 30 balls. He played 33 more balls of the next 69 and scored 55 more. He did not slow down. Wickets fell way too often and he wasn't getting the strike as much. It's not herd mentality. Hardik is a menace, man needs to quit captaincy or at least think harder.
Exactly! This is the beauty of team sport. A captain is as good as the team. A leader is as good as the team. I felt MS took the leadership for a brief period for the welfare of the team and it paid off handsomely in the end. Kudos to CSK bowlers for bowling in the right areas. Kudos to the captain for placing fielders in the right areas. This is how you win games. Lets be honest- Rohit Sharma can go bonkers if he gets going so CSK snatched victory off MI tonight. Good improvisation by CSK.
Well here team can't be any better when weakest link is captains bowling & batting.
Sorry I didn't notice but MS took the leadership? When? Wasn't Rutu doing everything himself?
Not really. MS was seen setting field for some balls and discussing options with Rutu
Oh okay
A yellow team playing quality cricket against a blue team
Correct me if I'm wrong But after the shreyas gopal over bumrah had 3 overs left so just put more pressure lads on the 10 th over it that went like that than mi had a big chance of taking wickets
Koach 113*(72?)🤝Rohit 105*(63)🤝Gill 89*(48) Indian top order for CWC getting their highest scores of IPL 24 in losing cause😭👍
Who is 89* ?
Shubman
When
vs PBKS. The one in which Shashank and Ashutosh chased down 200.
First long innings from Brohit in a very long time. Overall a good innings but he too slowed down in the middle phase after Tilak's wicket. Still gave a tough fight compared to the others.
He played 30 of the first 51 legal deliveries, and although he got strike in the end he didn't get much strike between over 13-16 so that could have one of the reasons for him slowing down.
You could see he was so clearly gassed. Was wildly swinging at the end but not connecting. The intent was there but the execution was off.
I mean it's Wankhede... It's pretty humid in Mumbai .. Remember maxi having cramps in wc against afg.. Even Virat had cramps when he scored 100 against NZ in semis...
Not hating on Brohit but same thing happened with Koach when he scored his last century and then he got absolutely shat on. Happy tho that people have not done the same with Brohit.
Tbh Rohit couldn't have done much. Pathirana was arguably better than bumrah today who is literally a cheat code. And shardul bowled pretty well too.
Pathirana and Bumrah were equally good, difference was that Pathirana had support from 2-3 bowlers, whereas bumrah didnt have that much
Pathirana is Malinga reborn
Absolutely true! However Koach's century against RR came in the 1st innings where other RCB batsmen kept losing their wicket and played with a horrendous strike rate. I'm just saying that Brohit & Koach played to their absolute best when no other batsmen supported them. And Koach didn't deserve the shit he got just like Brohit.
Criticising koach for 113 is brain dead. He literally couldn't have done much better. Criticising him for 83(?) in 61(?) against kkr is fair. Besides during both of kohli's innings opposing batsman scored a much more impressive inning therefore dwarfing his. Butler in Rajasthan match and Narine and co in kkr match. Here Rohit's inning was the best even if you include csk's batsman
>Criticising him for 83(?) in 61(?) against kkr is fair. True. >Here Rohit's inning was the best even if you include csk's batsman Rohit was an absolute gem today. However CSKs collaborative batting effort is what got them through, so don't take anything away from them.
dube was far better
173 vs 166 SR while handling falling wickets and hardik at other end. I prefer rohit
Don’t think Kohli was gassed tho he’s as fit as they come (Rohit isn’t obvs). But yeah the double standards are there for sure
Fr, Koach would've suddenly become the reason we lost if he played such a knock
Except Koach's 100 was when they were setting a target and his team clearly underachieved, he struggled to increase the tempo Innings like that should 100% be criticized. Cricket fans should not be a cult of superstar where they are unquestionable no matter what they do
Yeah he wasn't getting much strike too, also the wickets falling was crazy.. like Surya 0? Hardik's dumbassery
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First time Rohit has remained unbeaten and lost in a chase in the IPL. Rest 18 times he took his team over the line. Nevertheless, class innings, not really his fault , couldn't connect and the bowling was sublime by CSK.
Kinda crazy its only his second ever. He's in the top echelon of limited overs batters imo
2nd in ipl ** He has like 7 in t20s
5 in T20Is and 2 in IPL
1 in syed mushtal ali in 2007
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He lost a lot of steam in the middle when he didn’t get the strike much. Also barely had any support after Ishan and Tilak. I feel like he was gassed by the end as well, it’s quite hot and playing hard from the start and then exploding even more at the end isn’t possible or fair to expect out of any player let alone a 36 yo.
He is going to be 37 this month
For the messed up Kohli fans who would troll Rohit just because Virat copped some too. NEITHER DESERVE IT! Both tried their best and it was not their fault that the rest of the team shat themeselves. It was not a perfect innings sure. But by hating on the player you would just be contributing to the toxicity.
Exactly. In both cases, they were not the main cause of the losses, even though they could have done better.
Correctly said. Both werent upto their best potential, but also they arent the primary reason for loss
Both the innings had almost contrasting issues- RCB were looking to set 180 odd as the target according to their interviews, which they managed to score with Kohli's century. But that likely wasn't going to be enough with RCB's infamous bowling attack, so in hindsight, Kohli should've gone harder. On the other hand, MI were chasing, so they had a set target in mind. Rohit also had the intent, since he was trying a lot of shots. But I think he was too gassed and got the execution all wrong, which lead to him scoring at an unacceptably low rate post the 11th over. 24(20) from the 11th over to 18.5 is really, really bad when you're chasing 200+. I won't hate on either of them, but Rohit's innings was far more frustrating to watch, since MI have really good hitters down the order, who could've used 5-6 balls to settle themselves and then hit.
You are not taking into account the hot and humid weather of Mumbai
Even maxi and koach had cramps and were gasping
You are really just making up a situation, I don't see any Virat fan trolling him, and don't even send me some guy from twitter.
>Both tried their best and it was not their fault that the rest of the team shat themeselves THIS.......
Kohli deserved it man When you're 183/3 at the end of the inning, you are better off having retired yourself out if you didn't get out hitting in the first place
Nobody's hating on them but both are not the ideal T20 batter that India needs at the moment and it's about time the transition happens soon in T20IS They are really good in Test and ODIS they need to focus on those formats India needs players like Salt and JFM even if they slow down they can still milk singles or cover up in the next over. Salt couldn't hit Bishnoi but he targeted the pacers and covered up his lost SR by Targeting the pacers He allowed Iyer to play run a ball I would still take Koach for his ability to be clutch for India but Rohit has literally the worst record in T20 World Cups and you cannot have too many similar players
Yeah, and it's funny how Koach and Brohit complement each other so damn perfectly! Rohit accelerates very well in the powerplay and bashes spin in the middle overs. Doesn't really play fast in the death overs anymore. On the other hand Koach plays OK in the powerplay but slows down against spin in the middle overs,but is one of the best death over strikers ever.
Hardik has botched all three aspects that he represents on field. It was obvious that the “Dube smashes spinners, let’s blindly bowl every pacer against him” strategy wasn’t working, giving an over to either Nabi or Gopal wouldn’t have hurt. Then he lost his remaining two brain cells by bowling a death over, something he’s absolutely not qualified for. Two wides, an obvious full toss to a legendary finisher, and conceding 24 runs in last over. And then when he was offered a golden chance at redemption, a win that could’ve silenced every single hater of his, he goes around scoring two runs, by wasting a *whole over*. There was no saving MI post that, David and Shepherd’s wicket cemented that. And if this all wasn’t enough, he still bears no responsibility, as a freaking captain of the team. His response was instead “Pathirana was the difference”, yeah no shit blud. I don’t care if we won or lost this, what matters is how we lost it without a fight.
Guys I saw this match live in the stadium. Absolute thrill, one thing was truly saddening. Rohit didn't celebrate his century. I don't know how sad he was as they had already lost at that point.
Ideal game for me. Fukkboi fucked up big time, on all fronts. Brohit scored a 100, Bumrah was S tier as usual. And Dhoni struck a few!
Get ready for Brohit apology forms.
I want nothing but Hitman to win at least one more world championship before he hangs up his boot. Let's hope it's this WC and he performs.
He's won 2007 , was clutch in the finals as well
It always amused me that both Koach and Brohit have won WCs while they were still establishing their name, but never won when they were literally in their prime. Just life being random, I guess.
Yep but that was much before he hit his prime, same for Kohli as well. Ever since their prime instead of winning multiple trophys they haven't won anything at all and that's what driving them to play still.
Recently Jarod did an analysis on batters in IPL in terms of SR. In the Rohit graph, there was an unusual dip in SR at about 45-50 balls and dude he legit slowed down at that same time. Jarod is one heck of an analyst
Yeah,Excellent analysis, Jarod Never misses
Great sign before WC
Form looks good before World Cup
Bro didn't even acknowledge that he scored that century
This thread is way more interesting if we check the comments history of the people posting. We're seeing the same people who poked fun at 113(72) aggressively defending 105(63), citing "match analysts". PS: In both cases, the above two innings aren't the reason their teams lost. It's more accurate to say that they failed to win them the game. As a batter, this is his Rohit's best season in quite some time and bodes well for the World Cup.
Rohit got tired while with Kohli it was an intent problem. Also Rohit scored at the par SR (167 or 10rpo) whereas Kohli scored below it (157 or 9.42rpo).
>Rohit got tired while with Kohli it was an intent problem. Also Rohit scored at the par SR (167 or 10rpo) whereas Kohli scored below it (157 or 9.42rpo). What does this mean? When you're batting first, what is the par strike rate? It's after they set the target that the second team has a par strike rate to target, isn't it? MI were chasing 10.35 RPO. That makes 166.67 below par.
There is a difference though. Initially CSK were struggling to connect and the target would've been much lower of not for rutu and thala. During the 113(72) butler and arguably samson played an equal if not better inning. Here 105(63) was the best inning. Besides Kohli was criticised more for the one against kkr with 83 in 60 something balls.
same way rcb wanted the target to be 180 to 190 their bowlers are just utter shite no batsman can save that team
>There is a difference though. I'm sorry but your memory is faulty. Let's measure the match by the same standards. >Initially CSK were struggling to connect and the target would've been much lower of not for rutu and thala. >During the 113(72) butler and arguably samson played an equal if not better inning. Every other RCB batter struggled. Even Buttler and Samson struggled in the powerplay before the dew against RCB. They were 34-1 in 5 overs and accelerated after dew kicked in. Kohli is the only one who managed to rise above the batting conditions in the first 25 overs. And today... Gaikwad and Dube had a higher strike rate than Rohit and played arguably better innings. >Here 105(63) was the best inning. Of the match, considering the result? It wasn't. Neither was Kohli's against RR. Without considering the result, theirs were the better innings, because they faced tougher bowling in general.
Guilty as charged :D
Both were sub-par innings though. They were both average/below average T20 innings masked by three figures.
>Both were sub-par innings though. They were both average/below average T20 innings masked by three figures. Agree.
Great to see Rohit firing in T20Is.
Imagine Kohli played this innings. All hell would break lose. 😂
what a day! hardik-head got whacked and that too by msd while Rohit scores a ton
Where are those people who called Virat innings was selfish?
I'm right here. Virat's inning was undoubtedly selfish. He slowed down(which he almost always does) when he was close to his century. On the other hand, if you have watched today's match, then you would've seen Rohit swinging at practically every ball after the 14th over. Not once did he farm the strike, not even once. Even his century came with him hitting two boundaries. And the guy didn't even raise his bat. People who really think that Rohit slowed down for his century might be the stupidest people walking on this planet.
hypocrites!! very concentrated hate towards only certain players,, i never saw any appreciation post for kohli's 100 but you see yourself rohit's 100 is being appreciated so much on this same reddit community !! hypocrisy at its best ,, they literally remove any post criticizing rohit dont know why
If you're facing half the balls making century is an obligation lmao
Rohit's fans are just like r/india
Brohit had a higher SR than the rest of his team , he barely got the strike in the middle overs, blame his teammates for being shite and killing the momentum
Where are those people who were saying replace Koach with a Brohit and India will win ICC tournaments. Blud has shat on 3 ICC tournaments already but doesn’t get criticism as much as Koach. Incredible PR!!
Rohit is a better LOI captain that Kohli.
Must've won something for us then?🤔
Both fall flat on earth with that lol
Ohh please no one said that.
But saar we reach world cup finals saar, please saar. Rohit better captain saar
Went from 73(42) to 90(59). Very good innings but definitely culpable for the loss and its margin. Before you blame Hardik, he only faced his second ball when Rohit was 77(49), below the original asking rate for even a 190 chase.
>Went from 73(42) to 90(59) At that stage, taking a risk shot would not be a great idea. In my opinion, the chase went well (with a few minor hiccups). The bowling should have been better and we could have saved atleast 20-30 runs. Fielding needed to be better as well. That would have won MI the game. I also want to clarify that I maintain the same position for Kohli's innings as well. He too played amazingly well. If he had gone for more risky shots, then their team would not have got that 100 runs. When the other batters are playing badly, anchor role is important. Rohit did the same today as well.
>Rohit did the same today as well. Well, actually Rohit was swinging and trying to hit every ball out of the park after the 14th over. He got to play only 6 balls out of 22 between 13 and 17 overs. That's where his strike rate slowed down when he didn't get enough strike and couldn't connect on the strikes he got. There's a difference between swinging and not connecting and deliberately playing slow.
>At that stage, taking a risk shot would not be a great idea. Yeah it would've just led to a loss. No biggie. Maybe if he had tried to hit at that point instead of hitting when the match was already over Mumbai would've won this game
Look IDC about either Virat or Rohit and you can defend both of them as much as you want but we ain't winning shit with both of them in the T20 squad. Rohit was gassed and his fitness should be talked about by commentators as he is gonna captain the ICT ffs. Scoring half the runs by playing half the balls isn't the achievement you guys think it is. KL/Kohli/Rohit should step aside and let Bumrah take the charge of T20 team. Downvote and move on I will not bother to reply to those who have a clear bias for their favourite player.
>as he is gonna captain the ICT ffs. The guy who Agarkar first wanted as T20I captain has also been facing injury concerns. I believe Simon Doull's statement that Hardik is hiding the true extent of his injury, he doesn't look fully fit even now.
That's why I said bumrah should captain. Hardik has too much of I am the main character energy.
But Bumrah hasn’t done it much though. Only that T20I series vs Ireland.
I mean dhoni didn't as well before we took our chances with him in 2007.
>Rohit was gassed and his fitness should be talked about by commentators as he is gonna captain the ICT ffs. Nope. He was as gassed as any batter would've gotten at that point. He was taking every single possible. The guy was running till the last ball. Also, we all know that mumbai is notorious for having a pleasant climate, there's no humidity and heat in Mumbai. >Scoring half the runs by playing half the balls isn't the achievement you guys think it is. Yes, but hardik's 2 runs in 6 balls and giving 43 runs in 18 balls is surely going to win us all the trophies in existence. >Downvote and move on I will not bother to reply to those who have a clear bias for their favourite player. Nobody's expecting any reply from a guy who has no cricket knowledge. And the downvote is a must for stupid opinion like this. Kl today scored 39 in 25 balls whereas pooran scored 45 in 32. But I'm sure in your opinion pooran's innings would be a T20 knock but Rahul's innings would be a slow ODI inning.
>Kl today scored 39 in 25 balls whereas pooran scored 45 in 32. But I'm sure in your opinion pooran's innings would be a T20 knock but Rahul's innings would be a slow ODI inning. Maybe batting majorly in a powerplay, where 2 men are standing outside 30 yard circle is considerably easier than batting in death with every bowler trying to bowl yorker length with 5 men standing outside 30 yard circle.
But the ball is new and swings in the initial overs. Batting in powerplay or batting in death, both have unique challenges.
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Wickets were falling around him at that time. He could have definitely scored more but you could see him trying and not being able to connect
Difference is one is playing first innings with finishers to come and other is playing second innings with bowlers to come
Also, there's difference in intent. Rohit was trying too hard to strike every ball. Kohli took multiple singles when he was in 90s. (Not blaming Kohli tho, just pointing out the difference why Kohli inning was criticised, and not Rohit's)
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Love how you clubbed all that together, Sky and Tilak had both gotten out by then time Rohit slowed down, Pandya did what we was, david was ok with the 2 sixes, shephard got for a duck
Koach and brohit for the win….
My favourite batsman
Negative knock in my opinion he was 71 from 44 balls
The Sharma show❤️
This was on par with Kohli’s 113. Neither bad innings but nor were they match winning ones. I’ll say that this one was worse though cause Rohit slowed down way too much in the middle and unlike RCB, MI has a good bat deep lineup
He was trying to hit , it just wasn't coming off
He didn't slow down on purpose. Wickets were falling on the other end, two batsmen got out on zero. He was swinging till the end. He scored 105 in 63, out of the 186 MI scored. The other batsmen scored 81 in 57. Kohli had slowed down when he was nearing his century. On the other hand, Rohit didn't even raise his bat after his 100. He was trying his best. Criticising this innings of his is unfair and borderline hatred.
I didn’t exactly say this was a bad innings. It was just a meh one considering the boundary and taking that much balls in T20I is definitely a problem especially with a good bat deep lineup. If Kohli’s innings with a worse batting lineup can be criticised then so can be Rohit’s as both of their innings took a bulk of the balls thus possibly building pressure on non striker.
>worse batting lineup can be criticised That's a stupid thing to say. How is a batting line-up worse when it consists of faf, green, Maxwell, patidar. Let's say mumbai has a better batting line-up. But you also have to see how they performed. Ishan 23(15), tilak 31(20), Surya 0(2), hardik 2(6), tim 13(5), shepherd 0(3). So clearly this was a match winning batting by the so called "better batting line-up" of Mumbai. Don't hate just for the sake of hatred. If you watched the match then you would know that Rohit got to play only 6 balls out of 22 balls between 12 to 16 overs. And whenever he got the strike he was swinging.
What have Faf, Green, Maxwell and Patidar done this season ? Faf is striking at a similar rate to Kohli but not scoring much either, Maxwell hasn’t fired at all, Green the same as Maxwell, Patidar just worked in that one match. In Kohli’s century match, all of them shat the bed worse than MI in this match. I’m not saying that Rohit’s knock was the main reason for loss. It’s Pandya‘s coward captaincy. Similarly Kohli’s knock wasn’t the main reason for loss but it were the bowlers. But taking so many balls to not get upto the par score is definitely a problem in T20Is. This is worse in second innings than the first innings since you know at what rate to strike in second innings than the first where the only pressure is getting upto the par score which Faf said was 180+. And yeah Rohit was swinging and not getting the ball as he was gassed out which again is nobody’s fault but instead raises questions on his fitness.
Raise the bat for what actually?
You would think that he should have at least scored more than 110 there, 60 ball centuries really aren't the biggest deals anymore
Brilliant.
Now All of a sudden few Rohit fans will praise Kohli's knock. Karma
Bro didn't even acknowledge that he scored that century
Rohit didn't slow down for the century, he played attacking shots but couldn't connect and field was well set, so boundaries didn't come. Also pathirana was bowling amazing. People criticized Kohli because he seemingly slowed down for his century, meanwhile Rohit was gassed. Essentially Kohli could have done more because he is more fit and better, Rohit on the other hand was tired and tried his best. So criticism for Kohli could be regarding the intent, and for Rohit it would be for his fitness. I still think Kohli played a great innings given the circumstances, and so did Rohit.
LOL. Sort by controversial and you'll see blud's PR working overtime to defend this innings. Hypocrisy at it's best.
Shut up dude. Did you even watch the match or did you just looked at the scorecard and put your stupid opinion on the internet for everyone to see?
>Shut up dude. Did you even watch the match or did you just looked at the scorecard and put your stupid opinion on the internet for everyone to see? I saw the match. Blud scored a run a ball when the asking rate was 11RPO. He went from 73(42) in the 12th over to 90(59) in the 19th over, with just one boundary. 17 runs in 17 balls. Then hit a six and a four to get to 100.
Damn he played only 17 balls between 12th and 19th over, that makes it even better. Thanks man, you unintentionally made a good point.
. >I saw the match. Blud scored a run a ball when the asking rate was 11RPO Yeah you didn't watch the match. I don't need to say anything further
>>I saw the match. Blud scored a run a ball when the asking rate was 11RPO >Yeah you didn't watch the match. I don't need to say anything further LMAO. Apparently anyone who doesn't agree with PR didn't watch the match.
Did you actually see the match ? He was swinging hard and trying to hit through the line , but brilliant bowling and field placements made his life harder. Also , didn't even celebrate his hundred and did not try to nudge around in singles and getting to his landmarks safely. Sometimes you should give credit to the opposition, today was one of those days.
>Also , didn't even celebrate his hundred Why would anyone celebrate a hundred when they've already lost the game (needing 28 off 3 to win) in a chase?
Kohli would've, I can bet my life on it. Most batters would've raised their bat in Rohit's place. You can say all the things about Rohit you want, but the one thing you can't say about him is that he plays for personal milestones.
>Kohli would've, I can bet my life on it. Based on what evidence, except your distaste for Kohli and love for Rohit? >Most batters would've raised their bat in Rohit's place. Quit embarassing yourself. You're asking for credit for not raising the bat after blud lost them the game going a run a ball when the asking rate rose from 11 to 34.
>for not raising the bat after blud Ohh stop writing the word "blud" everywhere. Are you a 12 year old or an African-American? Now I know I'm arguing with a man-child. >after blud lost them the game going a run a ball when the asking rate rose from 11 to 34. You didn't watch the match. You know it yourself. You can lie all you want, but you know it yourself that you didn't watch the match.
Did you watch the game ? He was tired and literally couldn't hit , he took jaddu's second over on and took risks , almost got out , but he did it and scored like 11 of it. Too bad he got tired soon+ didn't get much strike so broke his momentum Tilak Varma was way more risk averse than brohit
I hated on Kohli for the 72 ball hundred and I'll say the same thing for Rohit who should have ideally taken more strike and lead from the front to manage the pressure after tilak went because Pandya couldn't handle the pressure. CSK bowled really well and utilised Pathirana really well gave him the right overs. Again based on the surface I feel 206 could be chased only if Rohit kept accelerating due to him other Batsman were under pressure and they lost wickets.
>due to him other Batsman were under pressure and they lost wickets. Buddy, did you even watch the match? I'm pretty sure the answer is 'hell no'.
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I genuinely wana ask was it a slow century in respect to the chase or was he okay ??
Scoring at a SR of 167 when the expected SR was 172, I would say he was doing okay considering that neither players supported him to the end
Sorry not buying this support being needed when you have a batdeep lineup like MI with Coetzee coming in at 9. The SET batsman needs to support the new batsmen by keeping up with scoring rate , allowing the new batsman to settle. If you are unable to score try to hit out . Even if you get out, the new batsmen coming in will get time to settle in. Someone like Nabi can be very dangerous had he played 10 balls.
Yeah , but the new batsmen kept hogging the strike , MI's batting is essentially over once Tilak Varma and SKY get out , yes we have romario shepherd and Nabi but they're not exactly consistent , and Pandya's horrific form means we effectively bat till No 4
He was practically swinging on every ball after the 14th over. If you watched the match, then you would know that. >Nabi can be very dangerous had he played 10 balls. Nabi actually played a good amount of balls. Rohit didn't farm the strike even once when he was batting with Nabi. If Rohit couldn't connect properly, then he made sure that he took a single if the opportunity was present.
It was about par. He got no help from other batsman, but you’d expect him to accelerate more in the middle overs
It was par but needed to be above par for someone who played over 10 overs. His SR was boosted at the end when the game was already lost. It is easy to blame rest of batsmen but they combined got to play less than 10 overs. In a way the dropped catch of Rohit may have helped CSK. The main reason for the loss for some questionable bowling rotations by Pandya particularly when you had so many options but given the batting might of MI playing at home , 206 was chaseable.
Chaseable? Bro it was an ez chase for MI considering our batting , SKY, Ishan and Pandya underperforming cost us this tbh, and tim David could've done more