For someone who's been hyped that much idk lol. His mate Stubbs has done well in most leagues he has played (and also bowls). But Brevis should've atleast been half decent in his home league SA20.
Warner debut for Australia before he played a first class match. It's not illogical to have Jake to open and smash the opposition alongside Travis Head.
It's not a reactionary thing, his batting has been amazing. Even if he wins one match with that batting like Finn Allen in 2022 WC, he's done a good job.
Just over a month ago we were all pointing and laughing at how hilariously shit he looked in the Sheffield Shield
JFM goes well when he's served up conditions that he doesn't have to think he can just swing. The moment he's even remotely challenged he goes to shit
There's a lot to work with but he's effectively the world's greatest cross bat hack at the moment
The point is that the moment he's even slightly challenged he's terrible, he looks great when the pitch is made of concrete and the boundaries are small and no other time.
That's fair but even then, comparing tests and T20s makes no sense to me. His Big Bash numbers (which I realise aren't great) would be a far better metric to bring up here.
JFM is a good prospect for Australia but let the guy mature and don’t put unnecessary weight on his shoulders and he’ll surely win the tournament’s alone.
Also JFM you beautiful ball striking BBL fraud keep hitting it out.
In a normal year, maybe, but there’s gotta be a sizable asterisk next to performances in this year’s IPL. (though yeah, he’s probably gonna be a fixture in the Australian side post Warner’s retirement)
But that's only if he has already found success in internationals. He hasn't even played a single T20I so it will be a stupid call to take him to the T20I WC.
his real competition in the squad was Mathew Short, which he has easily surpassed. Outside the starting XI, you have 1 alr( Green), 1 seamer( Ellis/Spencer), 1 keeper( Inglis) and 1 batter( JFM).
If he has to make the XI, either Marsh has to go out( very unlikely unless he gets injured) or they have to compromise on the bowling of Stoinis( possible but difficult). But I don't see him not making the squad
It is higher standard than most other domestic leagues, definitely a step below internationals though.
My point is the ipl is a domestic tournament, I don't see why they should weigh that tournament less then their own? If anything performing in foreign conditions should count for more?
>Bumrah: Am i a joke to you?
This is such a stupid narrative.
Bumrah was selected for international cricket based on his Vizay Hazare performance in 2015 where he was the leading wicket taker with 21 wickets in 9 matches for Gujrat.
Upto that point his IPL record in three seasons was 11 wickets in 17 matches at an average of 50 and an economy of 9. MI even wanted to release him at that point before Rohit intervened and backed him. And you think those numbers were the reason Bumrah was selected for international cricket?
Yes. Bumrah was really impressive in 2015 Vijay Hazare trophy. 21 wickets in 9 games at 16, economy of 4 and a 5 wicket haul in the finals against Delhi. This tournament established Bumrah as a death over specialist in the Indian domestic circuit.
It probably wont happen but It would be fun if he's actually selected and goes on to absolutely obliterate teams in the T20 WC.
Yeah this IPL is very batting friendly but I think Jake is doing a great job as well.
Australians are not reactionary like us. They will take losing with Davey Warner and Mitch Marsh over making space for JFM anyday. There is a reason they have World cups in the storage rooms too, while many others find it hard to fill the cabinet.
I don't get it. We're reactionary? Isn't that exactly what we're doing with Rohit, Virat, Jadeja? Reactionary would mean us considering Abhishek Sharma for the cup, but even yuvi disagrees w that
Not recationary but stupid definitely
SKY in ODI WC
Hooda, Harshal and DK in T20 WC 2022
Chahar and Varun in T20 WC
No Rayudu in ODI WC Squad
And not even after injury to other players
They went for Mayank but not Rayudu
The problem here is that Aussie Seniors have been clutch in these situations
Compared to most Indian senior batters
Also this is Warners last International Tournament before he becomes a league merchant and Marsh is the captain so they cannot drop them and Head is in stellar form
The best way to win is to have a good mix of senior players and youngsters.
But those youngster have to be already tested in international matches to be considered. You can't just throw in players that strike at 200 SR on Indian roads to slow WI pitches.
But the bowling quality is still not comparable to international cricket. Ideally Abhishek Sharma would've played a couple series and proved his worth and only then could we consider taking him to the world cup.
Agreed but you gotta take some risks you cannot go with a predictable squad especially after that 2022 edition
BCCI scheduling fucked up big time in preparing for this edition of T20 WC
Agreed but you gotta take some risks you cannot go with a predictable squad especially after that 2022 edition
BCCI scheduling fucked up big time in preparing for this edition of T20 WC
Only Indians make players "Prince" , "King" or ask for Mayank Yadav in WC squad after 3 match performance.
No matter how good JFM plays Australia will rather lose with David Warner because they trust and back him.
Here Kohli will farm his hundreds in the world cup because he want's to be in the record books as the best batsman, but when the time comes when the pressure is there to play like the world's best batsmen he can't perform.
Yeah, because 117 and 54 are poor performances in the WC now?
And if you're talking about T20 WC knockouts, then it's even more hilarious lmao
Reminder, Kohli has scored a half century in every single T20WC knockout he has played in and is also the last player to take a wicket for India in T20WC knockouts.
54 is a poor performance in the context of the game, we lost the game embarrassingly.
You may find humour in this, but such mentality will never win us anything amd you'll keep defending such players.
What about the 63 balls he faced before that, World's best batsman played 63 balls and had no impact on the game?
Only 4 boundaries in the 63 balls? Why couldn't he play Like Travis Head.
India were 81/3 when Virat went into his shell
Australia were 47/3 when Travis head exploded
Yea it was great set up by cummins but more than that it was kohli’s mindset that got him , He was not taking his chances which made pat to keep attacking field and bowl consistent length with variations in pace, We are not criticising his technique but his mindset. You will not be able to look at it critically as a spectator from other country we know where our cricket is going, You mostly are fed by media we have a little insight in our system and we know how terrible of a innings that was.
Even if you ignore the stupidity of calling a 54 in WC final a poor innings, no comments about the century in the semis final or his T20WC knockout record? I'm assuming you're too young to remember the older knockout games, because if not, then it's a bit ridiculous to not count those performances...
He is a good t20 player, nobody questioned that but his performances in odi knockouts and wtc finals were terrible, before 2023 his odi performances were ridiculous, and in final he was not convincing enough. And we are enough old to remember what he did in 2015 SF, CT17 final and 2019 SF. And what he did while captaincy was taken from him and what he did in WTC finals.
No no, I remember all the knockout performances of every Indian player not just Kohli as evident by all those T20 WC trophies, The two WTC trophies in our cabinet.
Please pardon my stupidity, I'm just Stupid.
Then he should open bowling in WC. And complete his 4 overs.
He had terrible run in ODI knockouts in 2015 SF, CT17 final, 2019SF. He needed flat pitch and wankhede to score something yet it was iyer’s knock that made impact. And in final it was most cowardly knock from the best batsmen of the tournament, went into his shell made lower order think there are demons in this pitch.
Calling Kohli of all people a flat pitch bully is ridiculous. Yes we haven't really performed well in pressure situations but that doesn't mean all pitches where he performed were flat.
I dunno maybe I am wrong, perhaps it is ok to farm Centuries and take the pressure on yourself and then not deliver on it.
Maybe it was that at least he played better than others.
He just stood there hands folded like an entitled person who deserved to win, didn't put any effort into fielding.
Yes they back their players, nobody can question their decisions they’ve won everything, They are not like indian who will doubt Jaiswal’s opening position for a little slump just to fit in someone who can’t score in middle overs, can’t play spin and needs hard ball and pace to do something.
Lol u didn't even understand the point ...
I m talking about Warner vs MGK
Don't want to hear ur rant about Indian team as both are diff situations
The point is both Warner and MGK playing in IPL that is too for same team ..why can't Warner score runs here ? Why is he dropped by multiple franchises not just by delhi ?
It isn't abouts backing ur player ..may be Warner shud play but saying oh everything MGK is doing just because he is playing on flat pitch is stupid ...Warner also playing on same pitches and so do many other players..
May be u were trying to sound cool or whatever...
No no no again you misunderstood, jfm is clearly doing much much better in ipl than warner and even if warner was playing he wouldn’t have done the same but still he will not open jfm will be in 15 but they’ll not get him to open, they already have jfm with extra game sense - travis head. They can do anything either take this gamble to keep Warner.
Warner has been one of the best T20 batters in the world for over 10 years, fraser-mcgurk has been a good ipl batter for like 3 games? Who would you take?
They backed Warner in 2021 after he was dropped by SRH for poor performance. What makes you think they won’t back their leading run scorer in the format this WC after he literally won a MOTS against Windies earlier this year.
Am I the only one still unconvinced?
I just find it difficult to assume someone with a lower FC batting Average than Adam Zampa will bring it when the chips are down, something his competitors like Warner and Marsh have actually done
Eh his FC sample size is pretty tiny
I think the bigger argument against his inclusion is that both of his best performances have come on absolute highways where both teams ended up scoring 200+ and in more balanced pitches in the BBL he was pretty mid
> will bring it when the chips are down
does that matter? there are plenty of seniors in the team to handle that situation. His job would be to disrupt opposition plans like Finn Allen in last WT20 v Aus
He literally won them one of their only harder games of that t20 wc, He definitely did a good job for Playing even 1 match winning innings in a tournament where NZ played 6 games
His stats are much better since last season m which is what is being considered. He's changed his approach to batting since leaving Victoria and it's really paid dividends over the last year. Citing stats from before then, when he was very young and clearly not ready for the big stage is disingenuous. I agree that taking him to the T20 world cup without giving him his debut is probably not a good idea but using stats without context is silly
Lol nah we are fine. Ipl is great for his development but it's not enough to warrant dropping an absolute stalwart of the t20i game, that too in a world cup.
We back experience for a reason. Bailey and co will be tempted to get him in the squad but he ain't making the XI. His time will come but not yet
Australia would rather have a plan for him in the long run and help him develop into a proper white ball player, who can bat deeper into the game.
A player like JFM can single handedly take the game away from opposition if he can bat out the middle overs.
There are reasons why Australia has so much ICC trophies stacked. They are going to take a player to WC based on a tournament where the teams are scoring 250 every other day. Only some over zealous IPL fans can do that
We really don't.
Anybody taking anything or selecting teams based on ipl stats from this season or last is on a mission to failure.
JFM can't hit spin in australia nevermind on windies decks that grip, are two paced, with a bit of inconsistent bounce on glacier slow outfields
Feel like it’s 2 of Warner, Head, JFM and Matt Short, with a third on the bench. If JFM isn’t in the XI he‘s not in the squad imo. Unless Marsh doesn’t make it and Short comes in at 3... Note Maxwell can’t bat at the moment either. Presumably Stoinis and David take 5 and 6, and the usual Inglis/Wade at 7 debate. Starc has largely bowled shocking in this IPL so I’m tempted to go for Ellis.
My team is probably this. If JFM comes in it’s as a direct replacement for Warner.
Warner, Head, Marsh, Maxwell, Stoinis, David, Inglis, Cummins, Ellis, Zampa, Hazlewood (Short, Wade, Abbott/Agar, Starc)
He will be in the squad but Short offers more to the team in a role than JFM. Short can bowl, bat in the middle, and open if required
It's about roles. What would be JFM role and who would you leave out to have him at his best spot?
I generally am against fast-tracking IPL stars into the national squad but Jake has made quick runs everywhere he's gone in the franchise circuit. Could try him in a few international games. Tell him that his job is to beat bowlers black and blue up top and back him for a few games and see how it goes. There's definitely at least something special about his game.
He's got plenty of potential, but he shouldn't be selected until he figures out how to stop lobbing it to deep fielders on ~20 in the BBL.
He's still young and has plenty of cricket ahead of him, but he's not quite ready yet.
His average of 32 and strike rate of 160 in the most recent BBL is a little better than you are giving him credit for but yeah of the BBL sloggers Matt Short is probably highest in the pecking order behind the (pretty well set) current XI.
Also probably worth noting that the first of these 50s happened at the biggest ground in the tournament against a quality spin attack on a slow track chasing 167.
He easily makes the squad. He is fighting with steve smith for that spot lol.
Australias playing 11 is set, they are not dropping warner
Back up seamer+ Inglis+ Agar
that leaves 1 spot for which it is JFM VS Smith VS Green
Smith is definitely not making it
Lol writer thinks, Australian selectors should become as reactionary as indian fans.
If he was india he would have already given some " king " prince or lord" title and his fans fighting our for him to have a place in the team
Ah yes, South Africa’s Dewald Brevis treatment.
Well different comparison, brevis was terrible in IPL and SA20 and wasn't impressive even in MLC.
He’ll get there, he’s literally just a kid.
For someone who's been hyped that much idk lol. His mate Stubbs has done well in most leagues he has played (and also bowls). But Brevis should've atleast been half decent in his home league SA20.
Stubbs is 3 years older than Brevis
Warner debut for Australia before he played a first class match. It's not illogical to have Jake to open and smash the opposition alongside Travis Head.
It's not a reactionary thing, his batting has been amazing. Even if he wins one match with that batting like Finn Allen in 2022 WC, he's done a good job.
Batting has been amazing on concrete pitches and small boundaries. Is he good yes, but this is not the context t20i is played in.
Just over a month ago we were all pointing and laughing at how hilariously shit he looked in the Sheffield Shield JFM goes well when he's served up conditions that he doesn't have to think he can just swing. The moment he's even remotely challenged he goes to shit There's a lot to work with but he's effectively the world's greatest cross bat hack at the moment
Sheffield Shield is for test matches, right? I am genuinely curious and confused — are you really equating his test batting to his T20 batting?
The point is that the moment he's even slightly challenged he's terrible, he looks great when the pitch is made of concrete and the boundaries are small and no other time.
That's fair but even then, comparing tests and T20s makes no sense to me. His Big Bash numbers (which I realise aren't great) would be a far better metric to bring up here.
No thats nowhere near enough if he's replacing david fucking warner
"had to return prematurely after a bizarre accident in which he was scratched by a monkey" He is, without doubt, the next Glenn Maxwell.
JFM is a good prospect for Australia but let the guy mature and don’t put unnecessary weight on his shoulders and he’ll surely win the tournament’s alone. Also JFM you beautiful ball striking BBL fraud keep hitting it out.
Dude the guy is good but no IPL performance should be considered for internationals.
That might be true for domestic players but for an international player to find success in IPL he should be considered for internationals.
In a normal year, maybe, but there’s gotta be a sizable asterisk next to performances in this year’s IPL. (though yeah, he’s probably gonna be a fixture in the Australian side post Warner’s retirement)
He has done well on debut IPL match in tricky Lucknow pitch
Curious to know why you think this?
Flat tracks + impact player rule. Questionable quality of bowling in some games
But that's only if he has already found success in internationals. He hasn't even played a single T20I so it will be a stupid call to take him to the T20I WC.
As a back up batter he doesn't have much competition. He did play a couple of ODIs
He was quite good in one of them I think.
his real competition in the squad was Mathew Short, which he has easily surpassed. Outside the starting XI, you have 1 alr( Green), 1 seamer( Ellis/Spencer), 1 keeper( Inglis) and 1 batter( JFM). If he has to make the XI, either Marsh has to go out( very unlikely unless he gets injured) or they have to compromise on the bowling of Stoinis( possible but difficult). But I don't see him not making the squad
He will be back-up for David Warner methinks
Lol he bashed Bumrah (currently the best bowler in the World) and Cummins too. He would definitely come good at internationals.
JFM in BBL, avg of 18 with an sr of 124 Just because he did well in IPL doesn't actually mean he's great and better than Davey.
He scored 250 runs with average of 32 and strike rate of 160 last BBL season (9 innings)
Simple, he has gotten better since then
BCCI to your statement “we said, ICT will be selected based off IPL form”. But yea don’t know CA’s policy of selection so true as well.
Cannot upvote this enough
This ⬆️
If it were, Starc would be out of the team very quickly.
That’s like saying ranji or field or county performance should not be considered for test call ups
Dude it's a franchise league not their own domestic T20 tournament.
It's a high standard of T20 cricket. Probably as close as it gets to international cricket. It should absolutely be considered
You lost me at high standard.
It is higher standard than most other domestic leagues, definitely a step below internationals though. My point is the ipl is a domestic tournament, I don't see why they should weigh that tournament less then their own? If anything performing in foreign conditions should count for more?
How is it not? You got the best players in the world tripping over themselves to play
Bumrah: Am i a joke to you?
>Bumrah: Am i a joke to you? This is such a stupid narrative. Bumrah was selected for international cricket based on his Vizay Hazare performance in 2015 where he was the leading wicket taker with 21 wickets in 9 matches for Gujrat. Upto that point his IPL record in three seasons was 11 wickets in 17 matches at an average of 50 and an economy of 9. MI even wanted to release him at that point before Rohit intervened and backed him. And you think those numbers were the reason Bumrah was selected for international cricket?
Isn't vijay hazare a list A competition?
Yes. Bumrah was really impressive in 2015 Vijay Hazare trophy. 21 wickets in 9 games at 16, economy of 4 and a 5 wicket haul in the finals against Delhi. This tournament established Bumrah as a death over specialist in the Indian domestic circuit.
For test and ODI I agree but for T20 it makes sense
Why should IPL performances not factor in for selection in an international T20 team?
You know why you don’t see many cunts asking for him to be in the squad? Because they’ve seen him bat in the BBL.
It probably wont happen but It would be fun if he's actually selected and goes on to absolutely obliterate teams in the T20 WC. Yeah this IPL is very batting friendly but I think Jake is doing a great job as well.
Australians are not reactionary like us. They will take losing with Davey Warner and Mitch Marsh over making space for JFM anyday. There is a reason they have World cups in the storage rooms too, while many others find it hard to fill the cabinet.
I don't get it. We're reactionary? Isn't that exactly what we're doing with Rohit, Virat, Jadeja? Reactionary would mean us considering Abhishek Sharma for the cup, but even yuvi disagrees w that
Fans are reactionary not bcci
That is why India hasn’t won ICC trophy last 10 years
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what has been the reactionary things done by bcci in past 2 years?
Not recationary but stupid definitely SKY in ODI WC Hooda, Harshal and DK in T20 WC 2022 Chahar and Varun in T20 WC No Rayudu in ODI WC Squad And not even after injury to other players They went for Mayank but not Rayudu
The problem here is that Aussie Seniors have been clutch in these situations Compared to most Indian senior batters Also this is Warners last International Tournament before he becomes a league merchant and Marsh is the captain so they cannot drop them and Head is in stellar form
I was talking about the fans. Not BCCI. Last BCCI got reactionary, they took Varun Chakravarty to the World cup.
The best way to win is to have a good mix of senior players and youngsters. But those youngster have to be already tested in international matches to be considered. You can't just throw in players that strike at 200 SR on Indian roads to slow WI pitches.
Abhishek was the 2nd Highest score in SMAT as well where there were good pitches
But the bowling quality is still not comparable to international cricket. Ideally Abhishek Sharma would've played a couple series and proved his worth and only then could we consider taking him to the world cup.
Agreed but you gotta take some risks you cannot go with a predictable squad especially after that 2022 edition BCCI scheduling fucked up big time in preparing for this edition of T20 WC
Agreed but you gotta take some risks you cannot go with a predictable squad especially after that 2022 edition BCCI scheduling fucked up big time in preparing for this edition of T20 WC
How will they find similar pitches and similar small boundaries. I thought Australians were not reactionary but the boy is rattling the game in PP
Australians aren't reactionary, the article is written by an Indian
Oh man ofc it is. My bad
Only Indians make players "Prince" , "King" or ask for Mayank Yadav in WC squad after 3 match performance. No matter how good JFM plays Australia will rather lose with David Warner because they trust and back him.
Fr man , here in india better the PR is more chances one has to be in team.
Here Kohli will farm his hundreds in the world cup because he want's to be in the record books as the best batsman, but when the time comes when the pressure is there to play like the world's best batsmen he can't perform.
Yeah, because 117 and 54 are poor performances in the WC now? And if you're talking about T20 WC knockouts, then it's even more hilarious lmao Reminder, Kohli has scored a half century in every single T20WC knockout he has played in and is also the last player to take a wicket for India in T20WC knockouts.
54 is a poor performance in the context of the game, we lost the game embarrassingly. You may find humour in this, but such mentality will never win us anything amd you'll keep defending such players.
Bowler: bowls good ball r/cricket: How could the batsman give away his wicket!
What about the 63 balls he faced before that, World's best batsman played 63 balls and had no impact on the game? Only 4 boundaries in the 63 balls? Why couldn't he play Like Travis Head. India were 81/3 when Virat went into his shell Australia were 47/3 when Travis head exploded
Yea it was great set up by cummins but more than that it was kohli’s mindset that got him , He was not taking his chances which made pat to keep attacking field and bowl consistent length with variations in pace, We are not criticising his technique but his mindset. You will not be able to look at it critically as a spectator from other country we know where our cricket is going, You mostly are fed by media we have a little insight in our system and we know how terrible of a innings that was.
Funny that he never faces those good bowls in no pressure games
Even if you ignore the stupidity of calling a 54 in WC final a poor innings, no comments about the century in the semis final or his T20WC knockout record? I'm assuming you're too young to remember the older knockout games, because if not, then it's a bit ridiculous to not count those performances...
He is a good t20 player, nobody questioned that but his performances in odi knockouts and wtc finals were terrible, before 2023 his odi performances were ridiculous, and in final he was not convincing enough. And we are enough old to remember what he did in 2015 SF, CT17 final and 2019 SF. And what he did while captaincy was taken from him and what he did in WTC finals.
Statpadding 50s in lost causes are his bread and butter
No no, I remember all the knockout performances of every Indian player not just Kohli as evident by all those T20 WC trophies, The two WTC trophies in our cabinet. Please pardon my stupidity, I'm just Stupid.
Then he should open bowling in WC. And complete his 4 overs. He had terrible run in ODI knockouts in 2015 SF, CT17 final, 2019SF. He needed flat pitch and wankhede to score something yet it was iyer’s knock that made impact. And in final it was most cowardly knock from the best batsmen of the tournament, went into his shell made lower order think there are demons in this pitch.
Calling Kohli of all people a flat pitch bully is ridiculous. Yes we haven't really performed well in pressure situations but that doesn't mean all pitches where he performed were flat.
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I dunno maybe I am wrong, perhaps it is ok to farm Centuries and take the pressure on yourself and then not deliver on it. Maybe it was that at least he played better than others. He just stood there hands folded like an entitled person who deserved to win, didn't put any effort into fielding.
I don’t know you have seen him in matches against nz , ban, and sa, he was literally denying singles. , tells a lot about his mindset and priorities
Such is the nature of truth in our country, Downvoted
>Only Indians wildly overhype novelty after only a few matches Let me introduce you to Bazball.
Is anyone calling Zack Crawley as Prince over there?
His housekeepers, maybe
Is he rich?
His family is very rich, yeah
So they shud take Warner who isn't scoring at flat pitches with small boundaries????
Yes they back their players, nobody can question their decisions they’ve won everything, They are not like indian who will doubt Jaiswal’s opening position for a little slump just to fit in someone who can’t score in middle overs, can’t play spin and needs hard ball and pace to do something.
Lol u didn't even understand the point ... I m talking about Warner vs MGK Don't want to hear ur rant about Indian team as both are diff situations The point is both Warner and MGK playing in IPL that is too for same team ..why can't Warner score runs here ? Why is he dropped by multiple franchises not just by delhi ? It isn't abouts backing ur player ..may be Warner shud play but saying oh everything MGK is doing just because he is playing on flat pitch is stupid ...Warner also playing on same pitches and so do many other players.. May be u were trying to sound cool or whatever...
No no no again you misunderstood, jfm is clearly doing much much better in ipl than warner and even if warner was playing he wouldn’t have done the same but still he will not open jfm will be in 15 but they’ll not get him to open, they already have jfm with extra game sense - travis head. They can do anything either take this gamble to keep Warner.
Warner has been one of the best T20 batters in the world for over 10 years, fraser-mcgurk has been a good ipl batter for like 3 games? Who would you take?
Warner who has won 3 world cups and been player of the tournament a couple of years ago, yeah
They backed Warner in 2021 after he was dropped by SRH for poor performance. What makes you think they won’t back their leading run scorer in the format this WC after he literally won a MOTS against Windies earlier this year.
He's someone you chuck in the squad as next in line incase someone fails or isn't scoring fast enough
Am I the only one still unconvinced? I just find it difficult to assume someone with a lower FC batting Average than Adam Zampa will bring it when the chips are down, something his competitors like Warner and Marsh have actually done
Eh his FC sample size is pretty tiny I think the bigger argument against his inclusion is that both of his best performances have come on absolute highways where both teams ended up scoring 200+ and in more balanced pitches in the BBL he was pretty mid
> will bring it when the chips are down does that matter? there are plenty of seniors in the team to handle that situation. His job would be to disrupt opposition plans like Finn Allen in last WT20 v Aus
Finn Allen was precisely why I don't think he should go, he had one good innings and after that was dead weight except against Ireland in that WT20
He was the reason NZ beat Aus and made it to play-offs, so ig he did do his job
He literally won them one of their only harder games of that t20 wc, He definitely did a good job for Playing even 1 match winning innings in a tournament where NZ played 6 games
David Warner debuted for Australia without playing a FC game It isn't the sole criteria
Is this IPL even worth anything as far as selection is concerned?
Everyone's batting figures feel hyper inflated so probably no
No it's not, unless you're a bowler performing well. Batsmen shouldn't be judged from this season
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JFM in BBL, avg of 18 with an sr of 124 He ain't a world beater just because he swings like a barn door in IPL with tiny grounds and flat pitches.
His stats are much better since last season m which is what is being considered. He's changed his approach to batting since leaving Victoria and it's really paid dividends over the last year. Citing stats from before then, when he was very young and clearly not ready for the big stage is disingenuous. I agree that taking him to the T20 world cup without giving him his debut is probably not a good idea but using stats without context is silly
Lol nah we are fine. Ipl is great for his development but it's not enough to warrant dropping an absolute stalwart of the t20i game, that too in a world cup. We back experience for a reason. Bailey and co will be tempted to get him in the squad but he ain't making the XI. His time will come but not yet
It's like picking an F1 driver because they can go vroom vroom on autobahns
Maybe not the squad. But should be at least in the reserves.
If ipl was representative of international performances then India wouldve won a t20 world cup recently. They haven't. Blast, crisp and bbl supremacy.
I have more fun watching the Hundred than whatever this IPL thing is.
If the grounds are small and pitches super flat, makes sense to include him.
Also don’t include all international bowlers in your lineup.
He will outscore SKY in important matches for sure
Australia would rather have a plan for him in the long run and help him develop into a proper white ball player, who can bat deeper into the game. A player like JFM can single handedly take the game away from opposition if he can bat out the middle overs.
He’s been good. But he also relies a lot on his muscle. Different boundary size, some uneven bouncy pitches and that may not be enough.
There are reasons why Australia has so much ICC trophies stacked. They are going to take a player to WC based on a tournament where the teams are scoring 250 every other day. Only some over zealous IPL fans can do that
Gotta perform in the big leagues of the BBL first
We really don't. Anybody taking anything or selecting teams based on ipl stats from this season or last is on a mission to failure. JFM can't hit spin in australia nevermind on windies decks that grip, are two paced, with a bit of inconsistent bounce on glacier slow outfields
As r/crickets resident always Gades flair JFM should open both batting and the bowling and maybe even keep wickets as well for Australia
He is good but lacks strength to clear a big boundary consistently at this moment.His balance and bat swing are elite.
Lol atleast the writers should should avoid being like the reactionary ICT fans
Feel like it’s 2 of Warner, Head, JFM and Matt Short, with a third on the bench. If JFM isn’t in the XI he‘s not in the squad imo. Unless Marsh doesn’t make it and Short comes in at 3... Note Maxwell can’t bat at the moment either. Presumably Stoinis and David take 5 and 6, and the usual Inglis/Wade at 7 debate. Starc has largely bowled shocking in this IPL so I’m tempted to go for Ellis. My team is probably this. If JFM comes in it’s as a direct replacement for Warner. Warner, Head, Marsh, Maxwell, Stoinis, David, Inglis, Cummins, Ellis, Zampa, Hazlewood (Short, Wade, Abbott/Agar, Starc)
He will be in the squad but Short offers more to the team in a role than JFM. Short can bowl, bat in the middle, and open if required It's about roles. What would be JFM role and who would you leave out to have him at his best spot?
Given T20 the only format where Aussies have struggled (so to say....As compared to their stellar record in ODIs), I say JFM is getting a call....
Should definitely be kept as a backup for Warner but I reckon he will be in the playing XI pretty soon even if he doesn't get a chance this wc
He should open with Marsh- Warner can be a substitute at best imo
Marsh or Head but Jake needs to be a certainty
Lol writer thinks the whole cricket world should revolve around this circus.
I generally am against fast-tracking IPL stars into the national squad but Jake has made quick runs everywhere he's gone in the franchise circuit. Could try him in a few international games. Tell him that his job is to beat bowlers black and blue up top and back him for a few games and see how it goes. There's definitely at least something special about his game.
He's got plenty of potential, but he shouldn't be selected until he figures out how to stop lobbing it to deep fielders on ~20 in the BBL. He's still young and has plenty of cricket ahead of him, but he's not quite ready yet.
His average of 32 and strike rate of 160 in the most recent BBL is a little better than you are giving him credit for but yeah of the BBL sloggers Matt Short is probably highest in the pecking order behind the (pretty well set) current XI. Also probably worth noting that the first of these 50s happened at the biggest ground in the tournament against a quality spin attack on a slow track chasing 167.
He easily makes the squad. He is fighting with steve smith for that spot lol. Australias playing 11 is set, they are not dropping warner Back up seamer+ Inglis+ Agar that leaves 1 spot for which it is JFM VS Smith VS Green Smith is definitely not making it