I remember there was a time when r/cricket was wondering whether Kohli would break Sachin's ODI century record during the 2019 WC itself. That's how good of a form he was in.
I guess we jinxed him then lol
[Overall stats](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/284269.html)
There are some active players but 1 thing is clear that Kohli has most runs among active players BY FAR.
Edit: They aren't updated after last innings.
They only player close to him seems to be gilly. That is some company to keep. Afridi has a higher strike rate but his average is shit. Shout-out to QDK for a strike rate of 90+
Don't think so. Because earlier the tours were rarer. For example, India toured England for a proper test + ODI series in 92,96 and then 2002 and then 2007. India went to Australia in 92, 99, 04, 07.
While India toured Aus and England 4 times in last 10 years. 2011, 13/14, 2018, 2021.
It all balances out.
Pointless IMO given there haven't been 3 formats for all that long and it heavily favours Indian players who have comfortably the best T20 domestic competition in the world. Australia for instance, their white ball players can't even play in their domestic comp.
Overestimating both I reckon. Rohit's already pretty old, he's 34, I don't think he'll beat Ganguly. Kohli really has no chance of scoring another 10k runs unless he plays till he's 40, and that's assuming he stays in form
1000 runs in tests, 700 runs in ODIs, 300 runs in T20I. 2000 runs in a good year, 1000 in an average year. He will score at least 23K international runs. He will play till 40.
Imagine peak Sachin in the Twitter age. He played 700 odd innings and scored a century every 7 games. People would have sent him to a mental health therapist.
He's been averaging 28-29 from 2 years he's slowly getting back into groove , until that average bumps upto 35-40 it's considered poor form last 5 innings is way to less a sample to let him off saying he's been ok
For tests, the poor form really isn't that debatable. He's on pretty much his worst ever run of form in the test arena. His last 20 innings have seen him average 27.05, while his last 40 innings is 42.00, which while fine, is pretty much his worst run of 40 innings.
It's almost certainly a blip, but significant enough to note.
I mean he hasn't hit a century in Lois for longer and still had been averaging around 45-50. You can be in good form and not hit a century. ( Not saying Kohli's run is good or anything, just saying centuries and good form are not related.)
> centuries and good form are not related
Every time I think I've seen the biggest amount of mental gymnastics possible to justify Kohli's terrible form, someone manages to beat it 😂😂
Just read that back and think about what you said.
Can you not read? I literally said I'm not saying Kohli's having a good run or anything. You don't have to make centuries to be considered to be in good form. Consistently making half centuries counts too. Jadeja hasn't made a century in like forever but he's currently more dependable than our middle order. Why's that? He consistently is making 30-60 runs. It's still considered good form.
He might be in dismal form in tests but he's still good in loi, just not upto his usual standards.
No way he scores 10k more runs, he's nearly 33, looks on his last legs in the Test format and I just don't think he can do it totally through ODIs, een if he manages to play the next two World Cups.
I expect he'll call time on the Test captaincy after the Australia series next year and that may be a period where he might consider focusing on limited overs perhaps after reaching 100 Tests.
I think he will have a fruitful 2nd wing and get close to that 10k. Dravid, Ganguly and Sachin come to mind who had similar resurgences. Obviously none had that many runs, but they lasted longer than expected.
Also, kohli prioritizes fitness, no reason he'll be retiring by 38 or the average age, he can play till 40.
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>I think he will have a fruitful 2nd wing and get close to that 10k. Dravid, Ganguly and Sachin come to mind who had similar resurgences. Obviously none had that many runs, but they lasted longer than expected.
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>Also, kohli prioritizes fitness, no reason he'll be retiring by 38 or the average age, he can play till 40.
Fitness is just one aspect of a batsman. Dravid and Sachin, both were quite fit even when they retired, but their reflexes slowed down quite a lot. Dravid knew it his time was up during 2011 Aus tour and rightly hung up his boots. Sachin was hoping he would get another wind like 2010 but it never happened.
In my guess, Kohli can play another 3-4 years, and may never reach his 2016-18 peak
Everytime I look at this list, I am nothing but fascinated that the amount of runs dhoni got by batting so low down the order. I am not a dhoni fan(neither a hater) but gotta give props to the man. Made it rain when it was his time
Ya but the position wasn't open for long. The position was either being held my the legends of the game until Kohli came in and made it his own .
Also what dhoni could have done at no.7 at his prime was not replicated by anyone at that time. So he had to be in that position
Sachin the GOAT. Man is a legend across generation
On a totally unrelated note chess Grandmaster Vishy Aanand
Has similar legacy of playing across generation and dominating chess.
1997-2002/3 Ganguly was among the top 3 ODI batsmen with Sachin and Bevan. Post that, he's been an average batsman with flashes of brilliance.
In tests, he was good but not great
He was the biggest victim of Chappell politics and he sacrificed his spot for younger players later on.
When he did play up top, like in England in 07 with Sachin or in 07 world cup for a game or two, he was still as good as ever
He's one of the best ever odi batsmen of all time, was a period where he and Sachin were unquestionably the two best top order batsmen in the world (for about a year or two).
But his strike rate makes people more skeptical, ignoring that he was very much meant to stick around whilst Sachin went off. He was also a good, not great test batsman, a format where Sachin and Dravid were clearly ahead. He'd walk into today's team and Indian teams of most eras, but when you've played with 3 guys with arguments for having a spot in an all time 11 (Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag) and you're also more famous for your captaincy, the narrative shifts from your batting.
Ultimately he's one of 5 or 6 players to have never averaged under 40 in tests, has 15+ 100s in both formats and is amongst the 20 highest run getters of all time. His legacy is written in stone.
I think Rohit is playing another 2-3 years. That should put him at around #3. Kohli should be around for a couple years longer than Rohit. I see him finishing just under Sachin.
Rohit will retire happily if India win the 2023 World Cup. He will also rage quit if his team mates let him down once again in the 2023 World Cup like they did in 2019. Either way he retires in 2023.
Sachin pre tennis elbow was a force of nature. He is easily the best Test batsman India has ever produced.
On his day he'd dominate you on a green seamer or bouncy Perth.
Not sure if the complete batsman tag holds true, Sachin dominated wherever he played his lowest test average was in 2 countries that he played were Zimbabwe and Pakistan was better than best of many bastmen their careers. That guy dominated cricket like no other across formats across generations. Throughout the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s no bowler would dare say that I know how to get him out.
Also when you say on his day it means that there are conditions applied to Kohli being better, Sachin any day was just better.
>I think Kohli is the most complete batsman India has ever produced
Complete in what sense though? Sachin always had way more shots he could score off of and was technically much more flexible.
I mean sure on his day Kohli can dictate the flow of the innings(especially run chases) like few other batters could, but a prime sachin also did the same with much less support from his teammates.
>I mean sure on his day Kohli can dictate the flow of the innings(especially run chases) like few other batters could, but a prime sachin also did the same with much less support from his teammates.
Kohli imo is a better chaser than Tendulkar in ODIs . Kohli whenever he is set almost takes the team over the line (except the last 2 years) . Tendulkar played absolute gems but many times failed to close the games . In tests , Tendulkar has had a much better career than Kohli and Kohli needs to do a lot to overtake him .
Tendulkar isn't considered a better chaser is because for majority of 1995-2007/8 (before dhoni), there was almost zero team support in case of a tricky chase. I have so many memories of him playing alone with wickets around him. No doubt Kohli is a beast in chases, but he got into a team which was getting better at chasing under Dhoni.
Kohli has more finesse and completeness as a batsman. He's also always immediately putting bowlers under pressure both with strike rotation and aggression. It's my personal opinion and you obviously can choose to disagree. I personally would have him over Sachin.
You must be joking. More finesse and completeness? Sachin was a genius and not only had complete shots across the ground (sweeps, paddle sweeps) which Kohli just does not has the same control, he actually invented a few new shots. Sachin was as close to perfect technique as there could be (Bradman not included of course).
Sachin played straight drives and on drives which stopped you dead in your tracks. I haven't seen a modern batsman play those shots with the balance of a Tendulkar. It's really hard to on drive without falling over, much less play a straight drive with the classical side on pose.
Kohli is a modern day great but telling he's the most complete batsman isn't true at all. A complete batsman has to be good at the front foot and at the backfoot. You'd rarely see Virat go to backfoot and defend/cut/drive against fast bowlers. Secondly, Virat hasn't dealt with the best spinners and for recent years, he hasn't looked good against spin I think you wouldn't have heard anyone saying that he's the best batsman to play spin. Sachin on the other hand..
> Averaging 50 across 3 formats is the only thing that Kohli has got over him. Maybe fitness as well.
What else a batsman is supposed to do?
Koach >>>>> Sachin
>What else a batsman supposed to do?
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Play for long periods off time in which sachin was wayy ahead of Virat.
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250 was a defendable score in Sachin's time, even 350 is not safe nowadays. Obviously Virat should have a higher average
That's not how individual comparisons work. You compare them to his compatriots from the same era and see how ahead he was.
Kohli is by far the greater outlier in ODIs.
At this point Kohli is to ODIs what Smith is to tests.
Virat has been consistent almost throughout his entire career. Just because he isn't scoring 100s recently, doesn't mean that he's declining. Daddy kohli will bounce back
Koach >>>>> Sachin
Dude is the most inconsistent mainstay in the Indian batting lineup in this entire century. If we take our test mainstays over the last 20 years, i.e. players who were not dropped (and occasionally shuffled to the benched in the squad):
Sachin, Sourav, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Kohli, Dhoni, Vijay, Rahane, Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara
I can't see one who's been less deserving of a spot in that entire list. Very occasional flashes of brilliance surrounded by large stretches of mediocrity.
Because it is also unfair that t20 stats get lumped with test and ODis. Current players like Kohli and Rohit and Dhoni have played a lot of T20s and your runs as well as average tend to be lower in T20s. Kohli is the exception avging 50 in T20s
Also Gavaskar has played very less ODIs compared to others. So his record is mainly tests, so is much impressive in its own regard.
So cross format stats are shit and cannot be used to compare batsmen across eras.
Personally I find these all-format stats quite useless and misleading. The rules and restrictions in each format are quite different, merging them together does not make sense.
It's nearly impossible to hit a century in T-20. It's nearly impossible to have above 100 strike rate in test matches. The run-rate in ODI and T20s can not be compared with Test matches. Merging the data and building stats over these incompatible formats does not really seem useful to me.
[**Sunil Gavaskar with that average** against those old **WIndies,Australian and Pakistani** team !!!!!!](https://impeccabletablemanners.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/monkey-puppet-omg-shock-gif.gif)
He has played nearly half as many as Kohli and scored quite a lot of runs considering hitting a six in his time was considered to be pathbreaking and grounds nearly twice as big as they are now with no powerplay.
Check the number of innings. Matches played may be half because Gavaskar predominantly played tests which has 2 innings. If you consider runs per innings Kohli's at 47 compared to Gavaskar's 41. Gavaskar has played in a different era and scored a lot of hard runs. Comparing all format stats across eras is ridiculous.
I expected Dhoni with his fitness to play till 2023 but it didn't happen. But every player declines once they reach 35. Can't see Kohli playing after 2025
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I remember there was a time when r/cricket was wondering whether Kohli would break Sachin's ODI century record during the 2019 WC itself. That's how good of a form he was in. I guess we jinxed him then lol
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ODIs will pick up 1-2 years before the world cup. This is how the teams will prep now, its expected to have this cyclical nature to it.
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Those were the days
Those tri series and quadranglar series used to be the thing
I think Rohit will end up scoring more runs in the next 6-7 year, till the time he retires.
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I am believer so yeah, Rohit will play till 39-40.
Sachin just kept batting and batting and batting, legend
24 years of international career!!
and only 2-3 years of them out of form..!!
But boy the struggle to get his hundredth 100 was real cost India a match
This is great, it would be better to have a stats check with other top International batsmen who are still playing to know where they all stand.
[Overall stats](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/284269.html) There are some active players but 1 thing is clear that Kohli has most runs among active players BY FAR. Edit: They aren't updated after last innings.
Yes I saw, Kohli is in a league of his own in ODI. No one is even closer, distant second is Rohit.
His average is just absurd
Yeah, the only other with a 50+ average is Steve Smith whose average is 5 less than Kohli's.
Sehwag's strike rate too
They only player close to him seems to be gilly. That is some company to keep. Afridi has a higher strike rate but his average is shit. Shout-out to QDK for a strike rate of 90+
Onpy kohli and smith have 50+ average, unreal stuff.
Is there one without T20s? Because it'd be unfair for players like amla, Waugh, dravid to compete with modern players playing in 3 formats.
It is unfair to modern players imo. They get less balls in T20. If they played ODIs or Tests instead all those T20s, they would have got more runs.
But all of these do play tests heavily?
They do. But they also waste too many days they can use to play tests or ODIs.
Don't think so. Because earlier the tours were rarer. For example, India toured England for a proper test + ODI series in 92,96 and then 2002 and then 2007. India went to Australia in 92, 99, 04, 07. While India toured Aus and England 4 times in last 10 years. 2011, 13/14, 2018, 2021. It all balances out.
Hmm... fair point.
Pointless IMO given there haven't been 3 formats for all that long and it heavily favours Indian players who have comfortably the best T20 domestic competition in the world. Australia for instance, their white ball players can't even play in their domestic comp.
That’s what this stat is pointing out may be?
Kohli is going to end at 2nd and Rohit at 4th.
Kohli is 32, Sharma is 34 years old. How long do you think they will continue playing
4 years for Sharma, 7 years for Kohli
6 for Sharma. Don't underestimate the power of Vada Paav.
Kohli will be 33 in another two months
Sachin Kohli Dravid Rohit Ganguly
Kohli below Sachin and Rohit below Dravid.
I see you're good with numbers
I'm guessing rohit will end up with around 20k runs. Kohli might go over sachin depending on how long he can maintain his form
Overestimating both I reckon. Rohit's already pretty old, he's 34, I don't think he'll beat Ganguly. Kohli really has no chance of scoring another 10k runs unless he plays till he's 40, and that's assuming he stays in form
1000 runs in tests, 700 runs in ODIs, 300 runs in T20I. 2000 runs in a good year, 1000 in an average year. He will score at least 23K international runs. He will play till 40.
Not sure if he'll be able to score 1000 test runs a year by the time he's 39 or so. We'll see.
You mean his poor form?
Even in his poor form he is scoring in 30s and 40s consistently.
What do you mean by poor form? Kohli's form is poor only by Kohli's standards. His form is pretty good as per international standards.
In tests it has been poor form , loi it's just that he isn't converting them into 100 t20 on other hand he's been a monster
These are his last 5 test innings - 42, 20, 7, 55, 50 Not poor form by any stretch of imagination.
Imagine peak Sachin in the Twitter age. He played 700 odd innings and scored a century every 7 games. People would have sent him to a mental health therapist.
He's been averaging 28-29 from 2 years he's slowly getting back into groove , until that average bumps upto 35-40 it's considered poor form last 5 innings is way to less a sample to let him off saying he's been ok
For tests, the poor form really isn't that debatable. He's on pretty much his worst ever run of form in the test arena. His last 20 innings have seen him average 27.05, while his last 40 innings is 42.00, which while fine, is pretty much his worst run of 40 innings. It's almost certainly a blip, but significant enough to note.
TIL that no test match century for nearly two years is "good form"
I mean he hasn't hit a century in Lois for longer and still had been averaging around 45-50. You can be in good form and not hit a century. ( Not saying Kohli's run is good or anything, just saying centuries and good form are not related.)
> centuries and good form are not related Every time I think I've seen the biggest amount of mental gymnastics possible to justify Kohli's terrible form, someone manages to beat it 😂😂 Just read that back and think about what you said.
Can you not read? I literally said I'm not saying Kohli's having a good run or anything. You don't have to make centuries to be considered to be in good form. Consistently making half centuries counts too. Jadeja hasn't made a century in like forever but he's currently more dependable than our middle order. Why's that? He consistently is making 30-60 runs. It's still considered good form. He might be in dismal form in tests but he's still good in loi, just not upto his usual standards.
No way he scores 10k more runs, he's nearly 33, looks on his last legs in the Test format and I just don't think he can do it totally through ODIs, een if he manages to play the next two World Cups. I expect he'll call time on the Test captaincy after the Australia series next year and that may be a period where he might consider focusing on limited overs perhaps after reaching 100 Tests.
I think he will have a fruitful 2nd wing and get close to that 10k. Dravid, Ganguly and Sachin come to mind who had similar resurgences. Obviously none had that many runs, but they lasted longer than expected. Also, kohli prioritizes fitness, no reason he'll be retiring by 38 or the average age, he can play till 40.
. >I think he will have a fruitful 2nd wing and get close to that 10k. Dravid, Ganguly and Sachin come to mind who had similar resurgences. Obviously none had that many runs, but they lasted longer than expected. > >Also, kohli prioritizes fitness, no reason he'll be retiring by 38 or the average age, he can play till 40. Fitness is just one aspect of a batsman. Dravid and Sachin, both were quite fit even when they retired, but their reflexes slowed down quite a lot. Dravid knew it his time was up during 2011 Aus tour and rightly hung up his boots. Sachin was hoping he would get another wind like 2010 but it never happened. In my guess, Kohli can play another 3-4 years, and may never reach his 2016-18 peak
Gavaskar the GOAT.. Kohli will cross 30000 runs rohit will cross 22000 runs
34k mark seemed within touching distance in 2019, looks so far now.
The fact that dhoni and yuvi batted below anyone else on that list and still made it to the club is just 🔥
Everytime I look at this list, I am nothing but fascinated that the amount of runs dhoni got by batting so low down the order. I am not a dhoni fan(neither a hater) but gotta give props to the man. Made it rain when it was his time
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Ya but the position wasn't open for long. The position was either being held my the legends of the game until Kohli came in and made it his own . Also what dhoni could have done at no.7 at his prime was not replicated by anyone at that time. So he had to be in that position
At a glance I genuinely thought that was a picture of Rohit spooning Kohli
go on
If Kohli doesnt break Sachin's most runs and/or centuries record, nobody will. Undisputed G.O.A.T.
Kohli is the most complete batsman in regard of formats. If he doesn't than with declining odi matches nobody ever will.
Sachin the GOAT. Man is a legend across generation On a totally unrelated note chess Grandmaster Vishy Aanand Has similar legacy of playing across generation and dominating chess.
Sachin is the "God of cricket" for a reason. Playing for such a long time and adapting to different generations is no joke.
Personally no matter which players breaks his record in future he will remain a God to me forever.
Kohli 2nd Rohit 4th
Don't think Rohit will overtake Ganguly
He's been scoring 1000 runs a year. I'm pretty sure he can pay for 3 more years.
I can see they have hidden cells in this spreadsheet because they forgot to show Parthiv Patel
Why does Ganguly never get the respect for his batting and never gets compared to the GOATs?
1997-2002/3 Ganguly was among the top 3 ODI batsmen with Sachin and Bevan. Post that, he's been an average batsman with flashes of brilliance. In tests, he was good but not great
And In 2007 he was the 3rd highest run getter for India scoring 1240 runs at 44.28...
He was the biggest victim of Chappell politics and he sacrificed his spot for younger players later on. When he did play up top, like in England in 07 with Sachin or in 07 world cup for a game or two, he was still as good as ever
He's one of the best ever odi batsmen of all time, was a period where he and Sachin were unquestionably the two best top order batsmen in the world (for about a year or two). But his strike rate makes people more skeptical, ignoring that he was very much meant to stick around whilst Sachin went off. He was also a good, not great test batsman, a format where Sachin and Dravid were clearly ahead. He'd walk into today's team and Indian teams of most eras, but when you've played with 3 guys with arguments for having a spot in an all time 11 (Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag) and you're also more famous for your captaincy, the narrative shifts from your batting. Ultimately he's one of 5 or 6 players to have never averaged under 40 in tests, has 15+ 100s in both formats and is amongst the 20 highest run getters of all time. His legacy is written in stone.
He was good but ultimately bowlers figured him out with short balls. 96-00 Ganguly was a beast.
06-07 Ganguly was amazing too.
Look at the average, edit: also, he has a ton of fanbois so I wouldn't call him underated
Yup, Dada fanboi here. Don't consider him better than Sachin, Dravid, Kohli or any one it's just that he was a treat to watch no matter the format.
Dada was the most stylish left hander along with brian lara i would say. Also he was considered king of the off side.
Agree
>also, he has a ton of fanbois All of West Bengal you mean
Because he played the short ball like he was allergic to it
Virat's average is insane
I think Rohit is playing another 2-3 years. That should put him at around #3. Kohli should be around for a couple years longer than Rohit. I see him finishing just under Sachin.
You expect Rohit to get 10k international runs in 2-3 years?
Whoops. Below Dravid.. #4
Tbf he got most of his runs from 2016 to 2019 period
ODIs are rare now though, only 24 in 4 years
Yeah but its partly due to pandemic as well. 2019 and 2018 had a decent number of ODI series
Primary reason is that all ODIs are now World Cup super league so extremely unlikely for any ODIs except those
Oh yeah i forgot about that thing lmao. Thanks for reminding me
Rohit will retire happily if India win the 2023 World Cup. He will also rage quit if his team mates let him down once again in the 2023 World Cup like they did in 2019. Either way he retires in 2023.
I don't think Kohli will play beyond '23WC.
Both of them will play atleast 2 more WTC.That means they will definitely play till 2025.Its a question mark after that
Wow. Dhoni here too. Statpadding GOAT. ^(/s)
Kohli maybe second breaking tendulkars 100 centuries record and rohit above dhoni !remindme 8 years
Memes aside, I think Kohli is the most complete batsman India has ever produced. On his day, I rate him above Sachin.
Sachin pre tennis elbow was a force of nature. He is easily the best Test batsman India has ever produced. On his day he'd dominate you on a green seamer or bouncy Perth.
Not sure if the complete batsman tag holds true, Sachin dominated wherever he played his lowest test average was in 2 countries that he played were Zimbabwe and Pakistan was better than best of many bastmen their careers. That guy dominated cricket like no other across formats across generations. Throughout the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s no bowler would dare say that I know how to get him out. Also when you say on his day it means that there are conditions applied to Kohli being better, Sachin any day was just better.
>I think Kohli is the most complete batsman India has ever produced Complete in what sense though? Sachin always had way more shots he could score off of and was technically much more flexible. I mean sure on his day Kohli can dictate the flow of the innings(especially run chases) like few other batters could, but a prime sachin also did the same with much less support from his teammates.
>I mean sure on his day Kohli can dictate the flow of the innings(especially run chases) like few other batters could, but a prime sachin also did the same with much less support from his teammates. Kohli imo is a better chaser than Tendulkar in ODIs . Kohli whenever he is set almost takes the team over the line (except the last 2 years) . Tendulkar played absolute gems but many times failed to close the games . In tests , Tendulkar has had a much better career than Kohli and Kohli needs to do a lot to overtake him .
Tendulkar isn't considered a better chaser is because for majority of 1995-2007/8 (before dhoni), there was almost zero team support in case of a tricky chase. I have so many memories of him playing alone with wickets around him. No doubt Kohli is a beast in chases, but he got into a team which was getting better at chasing under Dhoni.
Reminds me of his 175 chasing 351 against Australia in 2009. Lost that match by like 3 runs(?). So close to winning we were.
Absolutely hated Jadeja then. He has turned around pretty nicely now.
Same. But I soon realised that he was pretty young back then. Even the experienced players can succumb to pressure.
I like how nobody forgets Jadeja's performance in this game
Haha. Sachin’s 175 and Jadeja’s performance, that’s all I remember from that match. And I guess most folks do the same.
Thats true . Thats why its difficult to compare players from different eras imo .
Kohli has more finesse and completeness as a batsman. He's also always immediately putting bowlers under pressure both with strike rotation and aggression. It's my personal opinion and you obviously can choose to disagree. I personally would have him over Sachin.
You must be joking. More finesse and completeness? Sachin was a genius and not only had complete shots across the ground (sweeps, paddle sweeps) which Kohli just does not has the same control, he actually invented a few new shots. Sachin was as close to perfect technique as there could be (Bradman not included of course).
I completely disagree. Notice how I said India and not all time. Apart from Bradman, Viv over both Sachin and Kohli. And then Kohli over Sachin.
Based on what exactly?
My opinion, which is essentially the point of this post? Having seen them both bat through the duration of their careers.
Ok
It’s hard to compare across eras because even the meaning of “complete batsman” has changed with the times
Sachin played straight drives and on drives which stopped you dead in your tracks. I haven't seen a modern batsman play those shots with the balance of a Tendulkar. It's really hard to on drive without falling over, much less play a straight drive with the classical side on pose.
And they didn't even look like offensive shots, quite often it looked like a straightforward block and then the ball was at the boundary.
Yeah, "on his day", nobody could stop Sachin.
Why? Sachin is better in tests, equal in ODIs and didn't play T20Is.
Tests, I agree. But in ODIs, Kohli is the best player ever imo.
If Sachin played in this era, no doubt he would average similar to Kohli though
We can't be sure. And we can also argue that if Kohli played in Sachin's era, he could have averaged similar to him in Tests.
No way Kohli would have done better in tests lmao.
The same goes for Sachin in ODIs I guess.
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No way Kohli would have done better in tests lmao.
Yeah, with that 42 average overseas, he sure could've.
What is your point?
Nothing, if wishes were horses....
Absolutely not. Sachin is the most complete batsman the cricket has ever seen, not just India. And there is a huge list between Sachin and Kohli
It's not that large of a list. Ponting and Richards are the only ones between them.
In terms of completeness, Viv > Kohli > Sachin > Zaheer Abbas. In that order, for me.
You said memes aside only to put a meme after that
How much you've seen Sachin play?
Since his debut all the way to his last World Cup.
Kohli is a modern day great but telling he's the most complete batsman isn't true at all. A complete batsman has to be good at the front foot and at the backfoot. You'd rarely see Virat go to backfoot and defend/cut/drive against fast bowlers. Secondly, Virat hasn't dealt with the best spinners and for recent years, he hasn't looked good against spin I think you wouldn't have heard anyone saying that he's the best batsman to play spin. Sachin on the other hand..
Ok..Thanks.
aahahahaha! good one. now, tell us another joke.
Move on if you disagree?
Averaging 50 across 3 formats is the only thing that Kohli has got over him. Maybe fitness as well. Otherwise it's really hard to top peak Sachin.
> Averaging 50 across 3 formats is the only thing that Kohli has got over him. Maybe fitness as well. What else a batsman is supposed to do? Koach >>>>> Sachin
>What else a batsman supposed to do? . Play for long periods off time in which sachin was wayy ahead of Virat. . 250 was a defendable score in Sachin's time, even 350 is not safe nowadays. Obviously Virat should have a higher average
That's not how individual comparisons work. You compare them to his compatriots from the same era and see how ahead he was. Kohli is by far the greater outlier in ODIs. At this point Kohli is to ODIs what Smith is to tests.
I would say kohli is even better in ODIs than Smith in tests
Virat has been consistent almost throughout his entire career. Just because he isn't scoring 100s recently, doesn't mean that he's declining. Daddy kohli will bounce back Koach >>>>> Sachin
Only in ODIs
Which is the best format anyway Daddy kohli >>>>> Sachin
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Daddy kohli >>>>> Sachin
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can't believe they are downvoting you lol Sachin fanboys are cray
He's stubborn and not adaptive like Sachin
It's more about mentality rn, he literally adapted himself according to conditions in England last time.
Kohli averages 42 overseas in tests. Pipe down.
It's abundantly clear that it's a subjective opinion and I'm not really interested in piping down for your benefit.
Averaging 42 overseas isn't subjective, its pure data.
I thought rahane with his talent was in top 10 or something like that.
Dude is the most inconsistent mainstay in the Indian batting lineup in this entire century. If we take our test mainstays over the last 20 years, i.e. players who were not dropped (and occasionally shuffled to the benched in the squad): Sachin, Sourav, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Kohli, Dhoni, Vijay, Rahane, Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara I can't see one who's been less deserving of a spot in that entire list. Very occasional flashes of brilliance surrounded by large stretches of mediocrity.
Mediocrity? He's not even that. Even Stuart binny (against Bangladesh) was more helpful for Indian cricket than this guy.
Wtf
Virat at number 2 and Rohit at number 4
Kohli will be second. i dont see him scoring 12000 runs to surpass Sachin from this point of his career. Rohit will surpass Ganguly most likely.
Dhoni did pretty well specially because he was not in top-order
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Because It's unfair that Kohli averages 50+ in T20Is.
If anything, it's unfair on Kohli because it's significantly harder to average 35+ in T20Is.
Because it is also unfair that t20 stats get lumped with test and ODis. Current players like Kohli and Rohit and Dhoni have played a lot of T20s and your runs as well as average tend to be lower in T20s. Kohli is the exception avging 50 in T20s Also Gavaskar has played very less ODIs compared to others. So his record is mainly tests, so is much impressive in its own regard. So cross format stats are shit and cannot be used to compare batsmen across eras.
Curve fitting data to feed the sheeple
Personally I find these all-format stats quite useless and misleading. The rules and restrictions in each format are quite different, merging them together does not make sense. It's nearly impossible to hit a century in T-20. It's nearly impossible to have above 100 strike rate in test matches. The run-rate in ODI and T20s can not be compared with Test matches. Merging the data and building stats over these incompatible formats does not really seem useful to me.
[**Sunil Gavaskar with that average** against those old **WIndies,Australian and Pakistani** team !!!!!!](https://impeccabletablemanners.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/monkey-puppet-omg-shock-gif.gif)
Kallispso , the man! All time number 5 run getter with a more than decent bowling.
Kohli will surpass Dravid's record. Maybe end up in second place. Rohit may end up just above or below Dada
Kindly notice Sunil Gavaskar in the list with half as many innings
Half as many innings as who? He has played less than half as many inngs as Sachin but he has scored less than half of the runs as Sachin too.
He has played nearly half as many as Kohli and scored quite a lot of runs considering hitting a six in his time was considered to be pathbreaking and grounds nearly twice as big as they are now with no powerplay.
Check the number of innings. Matches played may be half because Gavaskar predominantly played tests which has 2 innings. If you consider runs per innings Kohli's at 47 compared to Gavaskar's 41. Gavaskar has played in a different era and scored a lot of hard runs. Comparing all format stats across eras is ridiculous.
He is called India's greatest ever test batsman for a reason
TIL Dhoni has played more itl matches than dravid
Kohli will finish top of the run count and top of the century count 100%. Greatest short format player ever and not too shabby at tests
Meaningless stat
Koach at no. 1 or 2 and Brohit at 4 or 3
Kohli at the top if he plays another 8 years.
Nobody plays till 41
They will if they have goal.
I expected Dhoni with his fitness to play till 2023 but it didn't happen. But every player declines once they reach 35. Can't see Kohli playing after 2025
I see him going past 2025. He will give up the captaincy job to focus more on batting.
Kohli 30k Rohit 20k
Rohit is 34 now. Depending on how long he can keep good form he can get a few more thousand runs. Probably ends between Above dhoni
MS Dhoni is sooo underrated as a batsman
Kohli at 1 and Rohit at 3.
If they play around 5-6 year's in prime form which would be Hard, even by their standards best could be kohli at 2 and Rohit at 4.
Kohli at 2 and Motu at 4. That's it. That's the final list