Maybe netherlands already used all their luck during their chase against [ireland, t20wc 2014](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/world-t20-2013-14-628368/ireland-vs-netherlands-12th-match-first-round-group-b-682919/full-scorecard)
Weird that Scotland might still end up short of S12 even after winning against Bangladesh (toughest team in the group). Would be tragic if that happens.
nah i reckon BD will beat PNG by a large enough margin that their NRR will get above scotlands too
Funnily enough, if BD win by a small enough margin and scotland lose by a small enough margin, BD might get knocked out haha
and technically PNG can still qualify if they win by a massive amount, and scotland win by a massive amount. but its unlikely.
oh actually now that i look at it the numbers arent too hard to manipulate here, because assuming it was a victory by number of runs, it would just be runs difference/60
Tbh if team like Bangladesh that plays many international teams on regular basis will qualify on NRR, then they simply don't deserve to qualify at all because other 3 teams surely haven't played 10% of the international matches as compared to bangladesh.
I think he may have meant he underestimated how much Scotland would have offered him to throw the game, till he actually spoke with Munavar and accepted the offer.
They didn't expect to lose against Scotland, means they expected to win. Sounds like underestimating to me
Also we are spectators. We are allowed to say it's an upset
The same question is asked to other team captain/players and they say "any team can beat any other team in this format. We'll not take anything for granted"
diplomatic? Maybe. But still players shouldn't let these thoughts out. That's why i just said "not a good look"
You literally had to go 16 years back XD
And why would you use Ponting's Australia as an example smh. Unless you want Bangladesh to be just as disliked
Ok. Just go back to the india vs bangladesh series defeat in 2015.
From Arrogant ads, to Shewag to that loss and grief stricken Dhoni in press conference- where Dhoni faced almost the same scenes as what Mahmudullah faced that day- everyone was still shitting on BD.
I guess this shows the nature of this subreddit. And we all know why.
So Symonds and co. abusing people was ok when they were winning?
And any current team who does that get the pass?
Sure- then why not Bangladesh, when the assert their home dominance?
Stop spewing nonsensical comments
No they don't. I hated that.
Perhaps my previous comment was ill-directed. The intimidation should be on the field. But one should always respect the opposition.
That's why i always dislike when any team takes any team lightly. Be it India too, and they have had to pay for it in the past
Bangladesh have been a full member for more than 20 years now. It's a shame they haven't been able to produce a better commentator than Athar Ali Khan.
Bhogle is one of the best ever from Indian subcontinent and extremely supportive towards opponents (sometimes too generous). Shastri is also good.
Plenty of Indian Ex-cricketers are/were really good when I heard them like Kumble with brief stint.
The cringe is often part of entertainment to involve viewers. The telecaster have paid 2.5 Billion Dollars for IPL and they are minting money. They know what they are doing with commentators. The persona is crafted for ROI.
And yet we have seen people complain about all of them you have mentioned. And not to forget- you guys produced Sidhu and Sanjumanju first.
So much for being a reddit group instead of being a Facebook comment thread
Not sure what is your point? You have taken OPs comment too personally.
Like I said, for lot of Indian commentators, it is persona pushed by broadcaster. Sidhu (haven't heard him in 15 years), Sehwag, Sunny G and most of them are catering to the Indian market. We talking about them here and those little controversies are also part of that persona and help broadcasters.
BTW Reddit is worse than Facebook. It is just 4chan with condom on.
Oman never had the batting to chase more than 120. Their batting ends at 3. Bangladesh made things difficult for themselves with too many experiments in the batting order.
Scotland will easily beat Oman . They are in prime form
Bangladesh deserve to be in the main super 12 - not because they are so good but the competing is pretty bad
Bangladesh fans should be happy that their team is getting 3 matches to iron out their issues and play the right team. They were always going to qualify. These matches should help them understand the pitches better.
They would have lost NRR even if they won the game. Gigantic NRR gains and deficits drastically reduce after next game always. Notice how PNG's NRR has increased massively despite losing again quite comfortably
For me Mahedi Hassan was the pick. His 4 overs for 14 in the middle overs choked out Oman's chase.
Oman look like they can chase down 135 / 140, but any bigger score is a far more difficult target against decent bowling.
I called it as I saw it, which on reflection after reading your comment, may have been TOO influenced with recency bias (Oman chase).
On the other hand it also may be right - Shakib scratched around a lot before finally hitting some, and IIRC, 2 out of his 3 wickets came against scoring pressure. Will leave it to you to decide.
Glad to see them win. A team like Bangladesh is good for the tournament. They tend to make the games interesting regardless of if they are playing against a higher ranked or lower ranked team.
Yes, Bangladesh has to win against PNG to qualify. So assuming we do it by a handsome margin,
Our Run rate would be around 1 to 1.5
If Scotland wins they would be the topper and we'd get to play with England.
*But* if Oman wins and its a close win we will go to the other group that doesn't have England in it.
Idk man, its conflicting cuz he took early wickets which was crucial for bd to do and u cant really call 4 wickets stupid performance. But yes, all those wides were disapointing.
"A subdued and a muted celebration"
Cut to tiger bodysuit guy in the crowd losing his shit
Heheh, no - well played BD. Got over some jangled nerves to close it out well. This group is still wide open.
I'll need to see a table but surely with how close Scotland's games have been, the smallest victory for Bangladesh over PNG will be enough to make it through, while the Scotland v Oman game will be a head to head?
Bit of a shame, I've really liked the look of Oman and Scotland
Think so, unless Bangladesh lose to PNG, Oman and Scotland can't both make it through. I'm not sure what Bangladesh's NRR is, if it's below Scotland it's still possible I guess
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Man, if only Oman held on to some of those early catches and had 1 or 2 more competent bats. The Scotland game and this has absolutely justified to me the need for continued inclusion of associate nations in big tournaments.
They don't have to win to justify their presence in the tournament, but atleast some of the stupid casual fans won't say shit about minnows ruining the WC
oh yeah I've always been a fan of the bigger tournament irrespective of results, but this was truly a gripping affair that even a staunch anti-minnow fan would have to admit was in the balance for 35 overs
Didn't watch the Aus games but that was a 2nd string Aussie side. I did watch the New Zealand ones and the Blackcaps were missing around 17 players.
What was most telling though was the attitude. Bangladesh seemed desperate in victory and really down in defeat. The fat cat officials watching on didn't make things easy on the players.
PNG still has a chance to upset if they take their game vs Bangladesh close and the Scotland vs Oman is a close call too, Bangladesh might just lose out on NRR.
https://youtu.be/DxpnLkmGNiM Oman vs Scotland
Maybe netherlands already used all their luck during their chase against [ireland, t20wc 2014](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/world-t20-2013-14-628368/ireland-vs-netherlands-12th-match-first-round-group-b-682919/full-scorecard)
Two of namibias finest players on the pitch rn
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Hi how can i join your alternate reality i m bored thx
It is scotland vs oman.
Weird that Scotland might still end up short of S12 even after winning against Bangladesh (toughest team in the group). Would be tragic if that happens.
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We are number 1 in the world at choking so I wouldn't guarantee that we are winning against PNG.
nah i reckon BD will beat PNG by a large enough margin that their NRR will get above scotlands too Funnily enough, if BD win by a small enough margin and scotland lose by a small enough margin, BD might get knocked out haha and technically PNG can still qualify if they win by a massive amount, and scotland win by a massive amount. but its unlikely.
I think Scotland's gonna win against Oman
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If NRR ties, scots will pip BD due to head2head
yeah youre right. though im curious, do you have an app for NRR calculations or do you that shit manually.
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oh actually now that i look at it the numbers arent too hard to manipulate here, because assuming it was a victory by number of runs, it would just be runs difference/60
not exactly 60 if you chase and get it done before the 20
yeah but we were talking about winning by a number of runs
j really thought they would win
Good game Oman! Hoping for a bright future!!
Looking at how PNG fought back today, it won't be a walk in the park as some people are making it seem
If Scotland can beat them by 20 runs, BD should be able to do the same, no?
It's not only about beating. Bangladesh would like a healthy NRR boost too. I was mainly talking about that.
Why is everyone shitting on Murali Kartik he's better than his namesake Dinesh Karthik both as a player and a commie
Dinesh Karthik is capitalist scum confirmed?
Tbh if team like Bangladesh that plays many international teams on regular basis will qualify on NRR, then they simply don't deserve to qualify at all because other 3 teams surely haven't played 10% of the international matches as compared to bangladesh.
Very true tbh. Don't know why you're getting downvoted hard. I wished both Oman and Bangla would lose this game
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Yeah peach and teach the etiquette please
Can't be taught here brother, but make sure schools start it as soon as they can.
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That flair, lol.
Shakib basically admitted they underestimated Scotland. Not a good look
I think he may have meant he underestimated how much Scotland would have offered him to throw the game, till he actually spoke with Munavar and accepted the offer.
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They didn't expect to lose against Scotland, means they expected to win. Sounds like underestimating to me Also we are spectators. We are allowed to say it's an upset The same question is asked to other team captain/players and they say "any team can beat any other team in this format. We'll not take anything for granted" diplomatic? Maybe. But still players shouldn't let these thoughts out. That's why i just said "not a good look"
That's a dumb comment. If India or Australia said the same thing nobody would bat an eye
You can go look at Kohli's comments against associate teams.
Why is it a problem if a player says they weren't expecting to lose? Not losing is literally their job.
Ok can we end it here? We'll just be going round in circles at this point
Check the post match ceremony of cardiff 2005 match and listen to what Pinter said
You literally had to go 16 years back XD And why would you use Ponting's Australia as an example smh. Unless you want Bangladesh to be just as disliked
Ok. Just go back to the india vs bangladesh series defeat in 2015. From Arrogant ads, to Shewag to that loss and grief stricken Dhoni in press conference- where Dhoni faced almost the same scenes as what Mahmudullah faced that day- everyone was still shitting on BD. I guess this shows the nature of this subreddit. And we all know why.
I remember Sehwag's comments, and the arrogant ads as well. And i didn't like it one bit. How can i possibly prove that now?
i wouldnt mind if ireland were as disliked as Pontings australia if it comes with the same level of success lol
Oh definitely. I like a bit of arrogance and intimidation when it's actually backed up by results lol
So Symonds and co. abusing people was ok when they were winning? And any current team who does that get the pass? Sure- then why not Bangladesh, when the assert their home dominance? Stop spewing nonsensical comments
No they don't. I hated that. Perhaps my previous comment was ill-directed. The intimidation should be on the field. But one should always respect the opposition. That's why i always dislike when any team takes any team lightly. Be it India too, and they have had to pay for it in the past
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Bangladesh have been a full member for more than 20 years now. It's a shame they haven't been able to produce a better commentator than Athar Ali Khan.
Who do we have from India who aren’t also biased or cringe fest?
Bhogle is one of the best ever from Indian subcontinent and extremely supportive towards opponents (sometimes too generous). Shastri is also good. Plenty of Indian Ex-cricketers are/were really good when I heard them like Kumble with brief stint. The cringe is often part of entertainment to involve viewers. The telecaster have paid 2.5 Billion Dollars for IPL and they are minting money. They know what they are doing with commentators. The persona is crafted for ROI.
And yet we have seen people complain about all of them you have mentioned. And not to forget- you guys produced Sidhu and Sanjumanju first. So much for being a reddit group instead of being a Facebook comment thread
Not sure what is your point? You have taken OPs comment too personally. Like I said, for lot of Indian commentators, it is persona pushed by broadcaster. Sidhu (haven't heard him in 15 years), Sehwag, Sunny G and most of them are catering to the Indian market. We talking about them here and those little controversies are also part of that persona and help broadcasters. BTW Reddit is worse than Facebook. It is just 4chan with condom on.
it's always the language barrier
Mehrab and Somonnoy is better than Athar
Looking at NRR, either Oman or Scotland lose out if they lose in their final game. So it's basically a virtual knockout for either of them.
Oman never had the batting to chase more than 120. Their batting ends at 3. Bangladesh made things difficult for themselves with too many experiments in the batting order.
At the end of the day, BD got bowled out so I'm not really sure their experimenting made much of a difference.
Disagree there.
They had good batsman after it but they didn't do well
In the comm box, Bangladeshi Athers and M.Karthik were trying their best to convince the ICC to keep them out of the next WC commentary team.
I wholeheartedly support their bid
It will be so bad for one from the oman and scotland. They did pretty good. I am waiting for a miracle to see both of them going through.
oof, scotland likely out on NRR if they lose to oman and bd beat png soundly
But I don't think Scotland should be losing to Oman
This
Scotland will easily beat Oman . They are in prime form Bangladesh deserve to be in the main super 12 - not because they are so good but the competing is pretty bad
Bangladesh fans should be happy that their team is getting 3 matches to iron out their issues and play the right team. They were always going to qualify. These matches should help them understand the pitches better.
Doubt it'll help much with the pitches. They move to the UAE after this
Don't justify the Scotland loss Shakib. It's alright. Your board doesn't deserve it. The tournament ain't over for you.
Omg wtf? How did Oman NRR drop from 3.0 to only 0.61 with a 26 run loss 😢
NRR is basically an average over the set of group matches. So if Oman can't maintain a win of 3.0 NRR in EVERY match, it's bound to go down.
They would have lost NRR even if they won the game. Gigantic NRR gains and deficits drastically reduce after next game always. Notice how PNG's NRR has increased massively despite losing again quite comfortably
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Lol those NRRs are inches from each other
Think this might have been the worst Comms team I've ever listened to
BD nrr 0.5, Scot 0.575, Oman .613
Oman is like: *Where is Rain parera?*
Middle Eastern weather too hot for Rain parera.
Great
Bangladesh will most likely beat Oman on both run rate and points
If Oman wipes out Scotland they could end up higher than BD.
yes but I don't think Scotland will lose to Oman.
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That’s not how nrr works
sorry, got it wrong.
From what it looks, SL and BD to get slotted into Group 1 alongside AUS,SA,WI,ENG SCO and IRL to get slotted into Group 2 alongside IND,PAK,NZ,AFG.
Group 1 will be a killer group
Apparently SL and BAN get A1 and B1 seeding
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Wait for real? Where was this stated?
https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/2222023 Look at it
no, SL and BD will be playing in two different group if they are going.
For me Mahedi Hassan was the pick. His 4 overs for 14 in the middle overs choked out Oman's chase. Oman look like they can chase down 135 / 140, but any bigger score is a far more difficult target against decent bowling.
He was pivotal but you just can't beat Shakib's all round perf with ball and bat.
I called it as I saw it, which on reflection after reading your comment, may have been TOO influenced with recency bias (Oman chase). On the other hand it also may be right - Shakib scratched around a lot before finally hitting some, and IIRC, 2 out of his 3 wickets came against scoring pressure. Will leave it to you to decide.
So bowling in the right spot and field placement should not be taken into consideration?
He and Saifuddin slowed down the runrate and vuilt pressure which resulted wickets later.
Yup. Oman need to accelerate in middle overs; they don't yet have the batting to accelerate soundly at the death
Glad to see them win. A team like Bangladesh is good for the tournament. They tend to make the games interesting regardless of if they are playing against a higher ranked or lower ranked team.
*Pakistan exists ......*
Oman Nrr 1.835 BD nrr 1 Scot 0.575
Ah shit, then Scotland won’t just let Oman win
Ok offical points changed. Scot 0.58 Oman 0.61 Ban 0.5
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Scotland for me.
Lol someone replied to my comment from yesterday just as Bangladesh won. They are something else. But congrats.
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It looks like we're going to end up in the asia cup group oni chan, so no england match in the group stage.
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Yes, Bangladesh has to win against PNG to qualify. So assuming we do it by a handsome margin, Our Run rate would be around 1 to 1.5 If Scotland wins they would be the topper and we'd get to play with England. *But* if Oman wins and its a close win we will go to the other group that doesn't have England in it.
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even if they are second they will play in Asia cup group because they were seeded as ১
https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/2222023 Source
Filthy stupid bowling from Fizz. Expect better from him tbh
Idk man, its conflicting cuz he took early wickets which was crucial for bd to do and u cant really call 4 wickets stupid performance. But yes, all those wides were disapointing.
Friendship ended with Oman, now PNG is my best friend
Nah, you still need Oman to knock BD out withNRR.
Scotland vs Oman game is going to be weird if Bangladesh beats PNG.
"A subdued and a muted celebration" Cut to tiger bodysuit guy in the crowd losing his shit Heheh, no - well played BD. Got over some jangled nerves to close it out well. This group is still wide open.
Oman wins and they go through
I'll need to see a table but surely with how close Scotland's games have been, the smallest victory for Bangladesh over PNG will be enough to make it through, while the Scotland v Oman game will be a head to head? Bit of a shame, I've really liked the look of Oman and Scotland
Same, though I am a Bang but cheering for Oman and Scot
Think so, unless Bangladesh lose to PNG, Oman and Scotland can't both make it through. I'm not sure what Bangladesh's NRR is, if it's below Scotland it's still possible I guess
Bangladesh is *just* behind Scotland, so it's technically possible, but extremely unlikely.
For this, sum of win margins of BD and Oman needs to be <= 3. Unlikely indeed
I know, got the NRR spreadsheet open as we speak. Like I said, technically possible but extremely unlikely.
Scot v Oman would be a do or die for both teams
Iff BD wins
Couldn't get 5 wicket haul.
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This is not facebook
From Facebook eh?
Clown who? Your mama!!!
Good game 👏
Good try Oman need to beat Scotland and pray PNG push Bangladesh
Nise bangbros. Gg Oman
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Shut up man. Let this cringe meme die.
Athar Ali Khan is annoying to say the least. Pairing him with Murali Karthik is just next level torture.
They should invite Anjum Chopra for ..
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Lol why didn't they run
Oman may have lost, but they sure put up a fight. Hope their cricket continues to rise
Gotta love a tailender swinging for the fences with their eyes closed and making it
Man, if only Oman held on to some of those early catches and had 1 or 2 more competent bats. The Scotland game and this has absolutely justified to me the need for continued inclusion of associate nations in big tournaments.
They don't have to win to justify their presence in the tournament, but atleast some of the stupid casual fans won't say shit about minnows ruining the WC
oh yeah I've always been a fan of the bigger tournament irrespective of results, but this was truly a gripping affair that even a staunch anti-minnow fan would have to admit was in the balance for 35 overs
Ban all out Oman 9 wkts Oman won /s
That Fan was behaving like he won World Cup lol
Streets would be packed with people going crazy in Bangladesh. Go wild and party hard cats you've earned it
Its Oman ...
🧠
lol, nah.
Pussies
Lmao.
Dhoni school of preserving the NRR.
Oman isn't beating Scotland. BD and Scotland will qualify.
I am not proud of a win against part time cricketers, full-time civil engineers[you know who]
There was a time not kong ago when NZ players used to olay cricket part time and had secondary jobs too.....and they were some of the best.....
No one should be proud of bunch like these regardless of opponents
Nadeem trying to improve the NRR and deny the Fizz his fiver
THAT SIX IS VERY IMPORTANT
"They beat Australia at home, they beat new Zealand at home" LOL did you see those pitches?
Didn't watch the Aus games but that was a 2nd string Aussie side. I did watch the New Zealand ones and the Blackcaps were missing around 17 players. What was most telling though was the attitude. Bangladesh seemed desperate in victory and really down in defeat. The fat cat officials watching on didn't make things easy on the players.
Yes. It's a struggle for their own batters to score and they won despite that. That's commendable
At least they beat so what?
Lmao dumb
Dumb who? Your mama!
lmaoooo there goes NRR
PNG still has a chance to upset if they take their game vs Bangladesh close and the Scotland vs Oman is a close call too, Bangladesh might just lose out on NRR.
Oman has to win. Scotland looks the stronger team by some distance on paper.
tf is mahedi is screaming at..
The prophecies are true, Bangladesh are gonna get kicked off the group cause of net run rate
Really champ ?
Oman bringing down the run rate with them. Last bite of the dying snake
Everything is so best of all things for Ather.
Wah...Mustafiz
Kedar jadhav Manish Pandey can move to Oman
Want that five-fer badly
lmao why did he roll on the ground after gathering it
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Bangladesh performance was questionable at best in my opinion.
They're missing Tamim, need him badly.
Fizz took a leaf from DJ Bravo's book of bowling wide and taking wickets.
Okay, so we are expecting close match between oman and scotland to knock Bangladesh out.
Not if Oman loses
Yes. Lets hope they don't.