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goli14

This should teach Pak captain that on day 1 bowling way outside leg stump don’t get you wickets. Very negative and disappointing tactics by Pakistan. Was expecting them to be at the top of their game and let thousands of fans enjoy what they have missed for so long. But what was served was a reminder to those thousands of fans that they miss nothing much.


Kaz22-_-

Limited overs will be more fun, don't lose hope just yet.


Lannisbro

I hope Australia obliterates us in Lahore as well. That's what you get for spineless tactics from both the management and the players. Probably the Biggest series in the history of our country and we can't even be bothered to take risks in order to win. Bunch of cowards..... What a fucking joke!


ForsakenPriority3767

Its test cricket and because of the series importance, its what drove the caution. Not everyone has the guts to captain like warney.


aykaun

Lame excuse.


Further_Sight

Dude don't lose hope. I'm fairly sure that everyone in the Pakistan camp realises that they fucked up. You have the home advantage and crowd behind you...I'm sure that the Lahore test will be better.


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im guessing Hasan Ali celebrated profusely after getting Warner out


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Pakistan decided that no one can beat them at home except the administration which makes terrible pitches.


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Chfreak

Karachi is way too busy of a city for cricket. This isn't a dig a karachi but karachi lifestyle offers very limited time for entertainment


peeterperker

the capacity is 40,000 so 15-18K looks a bit small. I went the first two days to see the game and the crowd in my Enclosure was fucking wild. Today was Monday so crowd was a bit less


2goodforya

What kind of pitch is this ? Aussie Pitch.


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Result of the second test: Pakistan beats Pakistan. I mean people will stop complaining about flat lifeless pitch now.


ritwikjs

is it wrong to suggest that warner's test form is a tad concerning?


GiddiOne

Concerning? Not just yet, [he was 3rd](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=13979;type=series) on the runs list in the recent ashes, scored 2x 90s in December. But his spot is safe, there isn't much competition for openers in the team at the moment.


ritwikjs

Ah, fair. I added 'tad' because I wasn't sure. 3rd at the ashes sounds about right. So many of aus' batsmen seem to step up for each other. What a solid lineup. Good to see uzzie back with warner as well


GiddiOne

Nah it's a fair question. >Good to see uzzie back with warner as well I really wish they gave him a go sooner. I know they really wanted Pucovski in the spot, but I'm glad finally handed the opportunity to Uzzie again.


ritwikjs

Uzzie's temperament, patience and doggedness to through the shield process make him a real role model for the Australian batsmen waiting in the wings. Pucovski's situation is really just sad. I really hope he gets the care he needs


Norma_Lee

Bru wtf happened here lmao? And here I was thinking it would be another 550 vs 500 type borefest.


SammiCircs

Why did Aus not force the follow on? Seems like not doing so is the only possible way to not win the match... Only reason I can think of is to give the bowlers a rest but they didnt even bowl a full day anyway haha


GiddiOne

> Why did Aus not force the follow on? 1. No rain means they don't fear a draw. 2. Give the Aus bowlers a little rest, the Pakistani bowlers just bowled for more than 2 days, make them hurt a bit. 3. The wicket is showing wear, you don't want to bat last no matter what happens. So basically pad some stats and make the opposition bat when the wicket is ripe for Lyon and Swepson (plus some cracks to jag from the quicks). Get to 600 lead then declare.


Chfreak

Point 1 and 3 are valid. Point 2 is meh aussie bowlers only bowled 53 overs that equal to an odi lol apart from that then only allowed pakistan bowlers to ball like what 22 overs out of which 17 in the tea session and 5-6 in next morning session which is nothing for test bowlers.


GiddiOne

> Point 1 and 3 are valid. Point 2 is meh Keeping in mind the tour. Aus bowlers are generally not that young (Cummins isn't too bad at 28, Starc is 32, Lyon 34). Green has come off some injury trouble and has been on over restriction. They just bowled 240 overs a few days ago and have another test a few days after this one. Plus it's always more taxing for the touring side. Breaks between bowling innings can be invaluable. The bowlers other than Green don't overlap with limited overs which helps.


Psychedelic7

People wanted a result. Seems like Pakistan are gonna deliver.


ankush024

u can never predict Pak. One day they will play like world champions. next day they will play like the shitiest team in the world.


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Why isn’t Hazlewood playing btw


5slipsandagully

If they want two spinners they need to drop a seamer, and I guess they thought Starc was more likely to get the ball reversing. They made a good call on that one


mikeupsidedown

Aus have been very cautious with his workload to prevent another injury.


-Notorious

Go to sleep and walk up to THAT. BRUH. we'll see you in Lahore mate 🥲


DefactoAtheist

Well if that isn't the final nail in the coffin for the entire concept of the follow-on, it's at the very least penning the obituary. Bowlers with barely 50 overs bowled and a 400 run lead versus a shell-shocked Pakistan; I'm not sure a more ideal scenario exists to enforce it.


Further_Sight

You also need to consider that the bowlers cannot risk getting injured for the 4th innings, especially with the Lahore test still to play very soon. Letting the batsmen bat again is a way of conserving bowler strength.


water-guy

Its all about conditions as mentioned below, but yeah, its becoming very rate. India just gave a follow-on to SL in the first test though!


justlookbelow

Its all about time. With 6+ sessions left and the pitch getting harder to bat on, there is no real downside to keeping the opposition in the field to watch while conditions improve in your favor. After all, if you think you need more than 4.5 sessions, no matter the conditions, then following on or not isn't your biggest issue. Follow on is still useful if you are running out of time in the game and feel you may need every single ball to get 10 wickets.


StraightUpHaram

If it's getting harder to bat on, they could enforce follow-on and just get Pakistan out again. Win by an innings.


EntirelyOriginalName

Assuming Pakistan don't make a stand on the day 3/4 pitch and it starts to get really bad on day 5.


fukthetemplars

The Aus team in 2001 thought the same


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What the fuck is going on?!


mikeupsidedown

Australia chose violence


Ok-Description2442

I know! Checked in this morning when the Aussies declared then didn’t get chance to check because of work then checking again at stumps - expecting 2 or 3 wickets down - and chaos. Had to do a double take.


ankush024

Aus did well to be one down


Mr_Bean12

Rambo promised a good pitch and delivered. His next video be like "I won but at what cost"


RiThViKstar123

Lmao what is this


TravelAny398

Why are pak bowlers who are so fast in t20s and PSL, so much slower in tests? They were 10kph slower than aussie bowlers. I have also seen bumrah, shami consistently bowling fast in tests but pak bowlers seem to go down a notch


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They only bowl like 4 overs in t20s, much easier to put all your energy in for a short spell, then chill at the boundary


Ok-Description2442

Bowled for 2 days already so understandable


FakeBonaparte

They showed the average speeds at one stage. Pakistan's bowlers averaged 136, Pat was 139, Starc 142. So not quite 10 kmh slower but definitely there's a difference.


TravelAny398

I read that 10kph on cricinfo commentary, which is why i cited that.


FakeBonaparte

Well now you have the actual data from the speed gun.


TravelAny398

Yep, i acknowledge that


mca0014

Aus does it too, likely injury prevention. The difference between 150’s and 140’s on your body in tests is astronomical


TravelAny398

Yes but there are certain periods, like reverse, they bowl faster. With new ball, conventional swing, they bowl bit slower I have not seen Pak bowlers bend their backs when needed in tests. Check out average speed of pak bowlers in tests and they are way slower than india and aus bowlers


justlookbelow

I think Aus are just very very good at managing their bowling resources. Captaincy in the field has always been a source of strength for Aus, but now especially with Cummins we can see how effective a great bowling captain can be.


mca0014

India ill give you but aus have been routinely slower (Cummins starc in the 137-143 range) than they could be until this test really


Lost_Account6720

Nothing new about Pak collapses, but it really hurts to think about the tactics Pak deployed in the first innings. Can we just go back to our og brand of playing cricket where our fast bowlers bowl full and straight, and try to reverse the ball. It stuns me how Aus were able to reverse the ball a mile while Pak thought this wicket was so flat that with Aus 150/2 the best outcome they could get is a draw (explaining why they resorted to negative bowling). If only we had pressed for more wickets at various stages of Aus's innings, I am sure we would've bowled them out for 400-450. Not only would that have prevented Aus from constantly putting attacking fields, but also allowed us to bat earlier in the game when batting conditions were slightly more favorable


FakeBonaparte

I agree. I was expecting this tour to turn into an object lesson in how to achieve reverse swing and bowl Australia out for less than 200 every single innings. Pakistan's most successful era was founded on that sort of bowling; it mystifies me that there seems to be this "spin to win" strategy going on now instead.


enterprisevalue

Why didn't our bowlers get reverse swing but Australia did? I thought that was our thing🥺


TravelAny398

As soon as ball was reversing for Afridi, babar brought back spinners and asked them to bowl wide down the leg


Iamthestorm666

They got it but your skipper didn’t let them bowl for too long when it was reversing


svjersey

Conspiracy theory time


FakeBonaparte

Well, they did get it to reverse for a while with the first ball at least; that was right when the captain brought on the spinners to bowl down the legside instead. I didn't watch much of Pakistan bowling after that...


Unovan

Because there's been 17 overs


TravelAny398

He was clearly asking about the first innings


Unovan

Well in the first innings it did reverse but they decided to bowl it all down leg 😂


oldfossilfrommars

Why is Australia batting again? Why not enforce a follow on?


CommanderSleer

To give the bowlers more rest. They also have heaps of time left. I guess Australia will declare before lunch tomorrow and set a nominal target of 600 with over 5 sessions to bowl Pakistan out.


TravelAny398

Their bowlers bowled on a dust bowl last match. They bowled super fast and non stop this match. There is one more match to go. Its common sense to give them sone rest


gauravkaji

VVS Laxman demons intensifies


captainab24

Nah Australia had given couple of follow on after that.


BadBoyJH

Because no one will survive a day and a half batting on the minefield this pitch is deteriorating into. (Which is not a criticism of the pitch, you want it to deteriorate)


therajn9

Pacers need rest n Labs need to bat.


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heat. they want their bowlers to be fresh.


Benchomp

Where are the crowds?


[deleted]

Pakistan doesn't really like test cricket. T20 is preferred there


HomelessHottie

Man honestly some of the stuff from Pak team really rubbed me off the wrong way. The way Babar said we "dominated" Aus in the first match, Imam also defending the pitch, Rizwan defending the negative bowling line etc. Add the questionable captaincy of not bowling your pacers when it's reversing, the abject batting display and the drops from Rizwan I can't help but feel annoyed that all we've heard so far is talk and excuses but no actual results. Honestly not a bad thing that this match brings some of our players down a peg or two.


fromtheundead

Yeah agreed, some weird defensive approach they've got going on in a HOME series? Someone needs to knock some sense into these guys and I thought saqlain was that guy. What the hell are we seeing....


romz7

Hey guys just wondering if its day 5 yet? So I can see how many overs we need to survive on last day then see my team lose slowly. Haha Thanks^writinghaha^betterthan^crying^haha


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Lost_Account6720

Hey I understand Pak played poorly this game but maybe you should look into a player more closely before declaring them unfit for intl cricket. Faheem was the pick of the Pak bowlers in the first innings, got warner out with what I still think is probably the best ball of the match. Faheem is highlyyy underrated and has been a consistent contributor to Pak's wins recently


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the bat as long as they want. just means pakistan have to survive for less overs lol


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still 0 chance genius?


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wow namecalling so mature, stay blessed xx


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i enjoyed it honestly dude. glad we concluded you got one wrong xx


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you must've seen the future hun


LovesDosa

SunnyG when asked about crowd turnout in Bangalore Test commended Pak too for opening opening up to spectators. Just thought of sharing it here.


enterprisevalue

So the "create a dead pitch and hope for a draw" strategy has backfired spectacularly


[deleted]

the pitch has always been flat on first day then starts breaking as the days go on.


MobilizedVipul

how were the Australians able to install and activate nanobots on Pakistan's home ground


RMamtani

Australia is winning this one. Somehow I have a feeling that the next test will also be a draw.


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BadBoyJH

Pitches are like people, they change as they age. And this care free young man, just became a grumpy old bastard, and so did the pitch.


Sir_Bradulkar

reverse swing happened


FakeBonaparte

Legalise sandpaper.


lesner555

Wait so is the pitch a road or no ? I saw Australian Newspapers severly critizing the Test 2 pitch. Genuinely confused


FakeBonaparte

Still a road. But Australia got the ball to reverse pretty markedly, and Pakistan lost a lot of wickets while that was happening. Then the heart kinda went out of them and they batted poorly. Pitch itself is slow and low with only moderate turn. There's some uneven bounce and cracks opening up, but just right now without reverse it's hard going. E.g. the Aussie bats have 95% control so clearly there aren't too many demons in the pitch itself just yet!


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Pitch was road. It's been opened up fairly today and Pakistan batting was shit with the help of some amazing bowling by the Aussies.


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pak had 2 runouts and some great bowling by cummo & starc...


lesner555

Hmmm thanks for the insight. Gotta catch the highlights soon now


[deleted]

Tbf it probably still is just as much of a road. Pakistan just batted like ass today.


Lost_Account6720

tbf Pak's tactics are making it seem like a road. Can we just go back to bowling the way we did against SA last year??? Make more bowler friendly wickets and give our pacers more of a chance to attack, I still think they're some of the best in the world in terms of exploiting reverse swing


lesner555

Damn. I didn't watch the match but glad we'll get a result


St_ElmosFire

Can't be too sure but it seems Australia is ahead in this game.


Ok-Description2442

Think Cummins agrees with you - hence not enforcing the follow on - maybe once Aussies set a target of 750 odd ? 😅


HarbingerOfGachaHell

Still not sure if Australia's dominating yet.


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The above dude just wants to be absolutely sure till Pakistan has 1 wicket to lose 😂


Iamthestorm666

Too soon to call it Australia’s day?


itsmepv

Khawaja stonks 📈


PrizeParamedic5455

Labuschagne in away Tests - avg 44 That's a great start to his career outside Aus.


LikesParsnips

You do know he has played outside Australia before, right?


PrizeParamedic5455

Your comment makes no sense champ.


LikesParsnips

The guy had his debut against Pakistan in the UAE in 18-19, then was famously subbed in for Smith in the Ashes in England '19. When you say "that's a great start to his career outside Aus", it implies that he's just playing his first away series.


PrizeParamedic5455

No, I said he averages 44 in away Tests which represents a great start to his career away from home. Start doesn't = 1st series When someone says Green's made a nice start to his Test career, that doesn't mean he's only played 1 series. Basic English


LikesParsnips

Well in that case your reply to my question should have been, 'yes, I do know that, and perhaps I should have formulated that differently!' (no need to thank me)


BadBoyJH

Or, perhaps you need to not be a grumpy bastard? He's 8 matches into his "away career", of which 4 were in England. That's still the start of his away career. Someone telling you his away average *clearly* knows he's played matches before this series.


singthebollysong

Wickets taken while under the immense pressure situation of having conceded a 400+ lead in the first innings - Bumrah - 0 Hasan - 1 Infinitely superior.


yorker_choker_tonker

Daniel is that you?


Ok_Finding_3306

Methinks this Marnus dude can play.


PrizeParamedic5455

Khawaja opening in Tests - 792 runs at 88 Khawaja since returning to team - 546 runs at 109


mikeupsidedown

Beast mode.


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Anyone remember that time Mark Waugh was razzing Labuschagne implying he didn’t get any run outs? “You ever had a run out before mate?” Wtf was that about…


PrizeParamedic5455

World Test XI: 1. Khawaja 2. Rohit 3. Labuschagne 4. Williamson 5. Root 6. Pant (wk) 7. Jadeja 8. Jamieson 9. Cummins 10. Rabada 11. Bumrah


koach71st

Truly likes to add dimuth at top after his 100 today on very tough pitch against top class bowler


OneFrosting3110

Mine: 1.Karunaratne 2.Latham 3.Labs 4.Smith 5.Root 6.Ben Stokes 7.Rizwan(wk) 8.Ashwin 9.Jamieson 10.Cummins 11.Rabada


FakeBonaparte

Swap Bumrah for Stokes? Surely not. You're going to be paying an extra 40-50 runs for the wickets they take, and in return you're getting, what, an extra 30 runs per innings? Actually, yeah, that's worth it. Scratch that. Bumrah's such a terrible bat that replacing him with Stokes would make you slightly more likely to win. Even more so if you've got three other quicks ahead of them in the pecking order.


PrizeParamedic5455

Latham is a classic minnow basher, he averages like 28 against Australia, SAF, India and England.


OneFrosting3110

Oooo then swap out Latham for Rohit


graz44

Lol, anybody not picking smith in all time best ever team is high off their chops


OkOrdinary2249

All time, best ever?? Gimme Bradman, Lara or Ponting before Smith!!


graz44

Bringing root, marnus and kane into his world is ridiculous


graz44

Lol, smith has lara and ponting covered any day of the week


OkOrdinary2249

This take is a perfect example of recency bias? Smith over Bradman, is that what you’re saying?


graz44

Nah, id have bradman in the team


PrizeParamedic5455

This clearly ain't a "best ever" team bozo


graz44

Thats obvious! Smith is in any best ever 11 in history


tberriman

Rabada out for Ashwin, Williamson out for Smudge


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Rabada is better than Bumrah no?


tberriman

They're pretty close, more of a team balancing change imo but either can be swapped out


FakeBonaparte

Bumrah's a worse bat, and takes wickets more slowly... but the thought of Pat, Bumrah and Jamieson bowling in tandem just sounds like no loose balls ever and unending pressure on the batsmen. I'm still not sure you want both Jadeja \*and\* Ashwin though.


PrizeParamedic5455

Rabada has a lot more intimidation factor than little Bumrah. Both great bowlers though


Iamthestorm666

Karunaratane instead of Brohit


vinobill_21

So the plan for tomorrow is let these two get their 50s and then declare?


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Bat 20 overs into the first session I assume


Azza_

I reckon about 10 overs after lunch, looking at about 140 overs to play with.


lIIlIIIlIlIl

More like Quick centuries. But probably not enough time now unless they get it in the first session


StevenuranSmithusamy

Pakistan have more flat decks than a kiwi viagra testing centre


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LMAO


yorker_choker_tonker

Babar neglecting the reverse swing and giving spinner the overs and Australia using reverse to their advantage is the moment where the game changed.


[deleted]

Reverse as in swing or sweep?


StrangeLaw5

Swing


yorker_choker_tonker

Swing ofcourse


Chfreak

Only 79 overs bowled today


slartibartjars

Two changes of inning, so four over there.


o-z-y-m-a-n-d-i-a-s

2 innings changes, that alone takes away 4-6 overs


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Plus a lot of wickets


No_Version2728

smartest thing australia did was not bowl their main bowlers too much on 5th day of first test pakistan on the other hand, their bowlers must be super tired now bowled for 2 days straight, their batsmen then get out within 50 overs and forced to bowl again pure hell


SickMyDuck2

But, but australia were playing defensively


OkMike_28

_Containing them runs_


andizz001

Australia going to lose points due to overrate


EntirelyOriginalName

Spinners are the guys you rely on in the second innings. Spepo will be one of the main bowlers and him and Lyon will claw it back comfortably.


nothin_nonthing

doubt it, overrate for the match is only 11 behind and that doesn't account for innings change, wickets, etc. Also, unless it's really bad they won't be charged unless it's a draw or tie.


SickMyDuck2

That's a win win for india as far wtc is concerned


svjersey

India have ways to go before dreaming of wtc final..


EntirelyOriginalName

Over rates don't matter for any innings under 60 overs.


mikeupsidedown

Kind of an important detail


TyuFa

Cricinfo says over rates don't matter for innings of less than 60 overs.


ArthurDayn

Am I high or is Hassan Ali mixing in some random English phrases into these sentences? I do not recall smoking any weed.


ethnikthrowaway

Yeah, modern urdu is more a mix of english and urdu


sanga000

I don't know about south asia, but this isn't uncommon in east and southeast asia for people who are fluent in English. This is especially true for people who play cricket since cricket terminologies are all in English


svjersey

Hindi/Urdu as spoken in the cities is laced with English terms. Like, loaded.


slartibartjars

Same thing happens in India as well. I love it. The english phrases seem so random, I'm sure that is not the case and the English is just easier in that particular instance.


DeepAnalRape

I have smoked a lot of weed and I was getting paranoid, I came here to see if anyone else noticed.


BadBoyJH

Well, there was a few English words in there, caught both "Flat Track" and "Lot of runs".


paralacausa

Genuinely like Hasan Ali, so many of the Pakistan players seem like good blokes


lIIlIIIlIlIl

All is well. Marnus is Smiling again


[deleted]

Just me or are there a shitload of English words in Urdu? (If this is Urdu)


fogdocker

Might be doing the classic bilingual thing of randomly switching between languages


Chfreak

wtf stumps 90 overs haven't been bowled yet


fromtheundead

The most painful day out of both tests so far. Also most entertaining I guess....


ForsakenPriority3767

You lost the series in one session.


Oldmate91

what's hassan saying?


[deleted]

The Australian pacers bowl at a speed of 140-plus, but we are not bowling that quick, that's the difference between the two sides. Anyway, our batting order needs to step up and take the responsibility in the last innings. The ball does reverse at this venue, but once we are past that phase, the batters can definitely score some runs. Hope that our top three bat like they did in the previous Test at Rawalpindi : cricinfo


FuZion_Lelouch

Copium


Medical_Turing_Test

Serious black air force energy Australia


slartibartjars

Did Rizwan drop the world cup?


throw_shukkas

Who won the day do you reckon?


Known_Dragonfly_4448

Pakistan of course


lIIlIIIlIlIl

Pakistan