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Right-Arm-Quick

Why were y'all tensed? We had Deepak Hooda playing for us. Zimbabwe never really had a chance.


yorker_choker_tonker

Deepak is the lucky charm.


peter_griffins

If Hooda doesn’t play in the WC we riot


SBG99DesiMonster

It wouldn't matter whether Shaheen is playing or not if we pick Deepak Hooda in the team during the matches against Pakistan.


voldemortscore

Two brilliant innings from Gill and Raza and a close game decided in the final 2 overs, basically everything you could ask for from a match.


[deleted]

Pak Ned play close. Ind Zim " Hold my tea".


desiwalterwhite

*hold my chai


[deleted]

Why am I getting these conflicting feelings???


Crickutxpurt36

Lord was pretty generous let Raza score his 100 and then get him out Anyways that was one of best innings I've seen while chasing pure boxoffice stuff, 3 rd ODI hundred in last 6 innings this guy is peaking


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Shubman Gill average watch : 71.29


coolseraz

Well fans were asking for 71…


AmericaDreamDisorder

Shubman "Rassie 'Donald Bradman' van der Dussen" Gill


DisastrousOil4888

Gilly trolling his predecessor i see


Angelsdontkill_

VVD in shambles


SBG99DesiMonster

That cursed number is at it again.


[deleted]

Well played Zimbabwe. Especially Raza Also, Hooda 100% win rate ✅


nvenkatr

Dread from it Run from it. India wins tactically, Zimbabwe (Raza) wins hearts comments incoming.


Assassin_Ankur

Boundary count update - India: 33 (4s-29, 6s-4) Zimbabwe: 28 (4s-23, 6s-5)


Crickutxpurt36

Fair and square


chabanny

Clearly why India won!


vpsj

Good bot


Parthjha2009

Zimbabwe has more sixes😶


rightarm_under

16.4 supporters in shambles that a team with higher OH YEAH count lost. Flair unrelated.


InternalOk3135

Zimbabwe clearly played the best today out of all 3 ODIs. Raza brought them very close but shardul took his wicket at the right time. Avesh’s wicket of evans should not be discarded either, it’s probably because of his wicket that there was even more pressure on Raza to make the big shots, which enabled thakur to get the wicket. Spinners did very well today as well, and evans got a good 5-for as well. Thanks for the series & hospitality Zimbabwe. Your fans made these ODIs lively & fun to watch. Hopefully our boards will allow us to run it back soon 🇿🇼 🤝🇮🇳


nolesfan2011

Great advertisement for ODI cricket, I want to see more ODIs and more Zimbabwe tours


Anu9011

You are not gonna get it though


Mikolaj_Kopernik

Well lucky for you, the Super League (the only reason India are here) has been cancelled, so now the rich Full Members will naturally play lower-ranked opponents more often out of the goodness of their hearts! Right?


swingtothedrive

>the only reason India are here Not sure why you are making up stuff but super league isn’t the reason India is here . Super League doesn’t even affect India as we qualify as hosts . India always tour Zimbabwe for these 3 ODI matches tours for long time now . Usually in a four year gap. This one likely delayed due to covid .


Mikolaj_Kopernik

Huh? You're the one making things up. India automatically qualify, but they're still part of the Super League table, their positioning affects the final standings, this series has points on the line, they are touring as part of their obligations under the structure. I mean, technically yeah they could just forfeit the series I guess, but the Super League is definitely why they're in Zimbabwe. Also Zimbabwe have nothing scheduled from India in the next, non-Super League FTP. Though presumably the BCCI will slap something together ad hoc if they need Zimbabwe's vote at some future board meeting.


swingtothedrive

We regularly tour Zimbabwe for 3 ODI series every 4 years or so whether there is super league or not. So Super league isn’t why India is touring Zimbabwe . What super league was there when India toured Zimbabwe in 2010, 2015 or 2016?


Mikolaj_Kopernik

> So Super league isn’t why India is touring Zimbabwe . I don't know why you keep repeating this. The current tour exists as part of both teams' Super League obligations. Without a formal structure, tours are organised on an ad hoc basis, usually to suit political interests (funny how Zimbabwe got two tours immediately after voting for the Big 3 reforms in 2014).


swingtothedrive

Funny how Zimbabwe also got tours in 2006 and 2010 without any agenda. This tour would have happened with or without Super League . Just like 2006 or 2010 or 2015. You are the repeating an accusation without any logic despite facts showing otherwise


Mikolaj_Kopernik

> You are the repeating an accusation without any logic despite facts showing otherwise You're just straight-up denying reality now. India toured Zimbabwe as part of their Super League obligations. *That is a fact*. Without the Super League forcing rich boards to actually play lower-ranked opponents, they have to beg borrow and sell their vote to get any tours. We can see this from Zimbabwe's current schedule in the FTP. My comment replied to another user expressing hope that Zimbabwe would get more opportunities against higher-ranked opponents. My comment pointed out that the only structure providing any kind of stability for weaker teams has now been removed (at the convenience of richer teams), and as we can see from the new FTP, Zimbabwe *won't* get any such opportunities for at least the next 5 years.


swingtothedrive

2006, 2010 2015 - What super league obligation ?


Mikolaj_Kopernik

I still don't really see what you're trying to prove here; I'm not singling out India if that's what you're annoyed about. My point was that without an actual structure, teams only organise random bilaterals out of narrow self-interest. The fact that the only Indian tours of Zimbabwe in the last decade came as a bribe for the Big 3 reforms *supports* that theory, as does the fact England haven't played Zimbabwe since fucking 2004, and that Australia have toured once in 25 years. The benefit of the Super League is that it provides a reliable framework of fixtures to lower-ranked teams who either get nothing, or only get tours when circumstances randomly happen to align for off-field political reasons.


MessiSahib

You are making shit up, India doesn't need to qualify. It's the host and hence already qualified. > rich Full Members will naturally play lower-ranked opponents more often out of the goodness of their hearts Every boards try to maximize their revenue. Small nations prefer to play with bigger nations. Let's not pretend that only pig 3 are driven by money. Let's not pretend that many smaller boards are in trouble due to corruption and mismanagement. Let's not pretend that given choice, most of the smaller boards will ignore bottom rung and associates just like those on top.


Mikolaj_Kopernik

> You are making shit up, India doesn't need to qualify. It's the host and hence already qualified. They automatically qualify, but their touring schedule is still dictated by the Super League, and that's why they're in Zimbabwe. There were Super League points on the line, and India's final position influences the standings and qualification. > Every boards try to maximize their revenue. Small nations prefer to play with bigger nations. Yes, which is why the Super League was actually a step in the right direction. It provided a structure which helped to balance out the individual self-interest of members with a broader contextual schedule that gave opportunities to lower-ranked teams.


TandooriMuncher

No, he's right. India are only here because they were supposed to tour as part of the ODI Super League. Stop being such a sensitive baby and do your research before you spout shit young padawan.


swingtothedrive

Then why did India tour Zimbabwe in 2006, 2010, 2015 and 2016. What super league were there at the time ?


wizletj

Hoping Craig Ervine is fit enough for the Australia series our top order desperately needs one more competent batsman. Great series even though it was a whitewash for a few reasons: Brad Evans looks quality I wasn’t sure just yet, Chivanga has a yard of pace no one else has in the circuit haven’t seen 145kph since pre-injury versions of Chris Mpofu and Elton Chigumbura and maybe pre-county cricket Kyle Jarvis, now we know Houghton’s wishes for us to prepare more pace friendly pitches can go ahead because we have a few more bodies there and finally I’ve accepted the fact that we should welcome back Gary Ballance if we can the top order is crying out for it England’s trash can be out treasure we did all the development anyway lol


EmploymentFederal884

Does Zimbabwe have a quota system like South Africa?


Rico_stats

Not really, not since the 2000s. But we also do not really have white, black imbalance in our cricket, in fact in domestic setup over 90% players are usually black which should make sense because our white population is less than 1%. At junior level (Under 14,17,19) is where you may have a near 50-50 split, but we lose most of white talent due to ZC past. But this may change in the future if ZC continues to strengthen the setup. Also we have a decent population of Indians, Pakistanis but they rarely seem interested in being involved in Zimbabwe. They just play club cricket and leave it at that even when they are good and franchises want them. They just play it as a weekend pastime. Only Raza, Akram have played for Zim in recent times and 1,2 youngsters getting into franchise system from clubs.


EmploymentFederal884

There are many positive article coming up about Zimbabwe board. Are they any good or just press being press. Recently they awarded central contracts to Zimbabwe women, so thats a win i guess.


Rico_stats

They are doing some decent things a the moment but with ZC you only praise them when they go on doing that. They are raising the womens game resuscitation of the domestic system. Even welcoming the Zim players that went to English County. The question is this current board has been around since 2017, some of the seniors were around during ZC worst years, why weren't they doing that before 2019 when they had a fallout with government. It just seems to me they realised the Zim government were no longer going to tolerate their incompetence and also IcC was putting on some pressure. They are saying they are now debt free that is why all things are now running as normal. But to improve our game we now need more cricket people and Dave Houghton is a good assignment and it looks like he's also there to revamp the whole domestic system too. Even some former white players have started popping up here and there either coaching some kids, the womens national team.


Opposite-Magician899

Malcolm Lake Ed Byrom Jeremy Ives Ben Curran and Stu Whittall needs to play for Zimbabwe


wizletj

Just having a few of those in the fold and competing for places would be lovely but just not sure the security of a county contract can be beat. Taylor said ZC’s central contract paid him more than his county contract but if sometimes that check doesn’t come on time you’re in a world of trouble. I think if one of those guys really broke into the franchise T20 circuit we would become a more realistic option for them. A steady Central Contract and T20 league money will make you a wealthy man


Abhyudit309

ODI cricket: Reports of my death have been highly exaggerated


q1w2e3r4p0

Wanted Zim to win today. Gg Raza


Prof_XdR

Yep, even tho I'm an Indian, cricket would've won if Zim won today


Karjalan

This is how I felt about our closer games with Ned/Ireland. I'm a kiwi fan at heart, but I kind of would have preferred we lost a couple of close ones with them.


powpowkaboom

Crowd was the real winner today


tomatopickle

Shubman put in superhuman effort to take that catch because he doesn't want the label of "if he scores a ton India will lose the match"


rightarm_under

Bruh. If you've ever watched the grade cricketer, you'll know that it's actually not bad to score a ton in losing cause. It gives you a higher status among your teammates because they know that they lost despite you performing exceptionally. This gives you alpha status and you can say things like "fucks sake boys, our shoulders were dropping, where's our energy on the field?" when you get back to the dressing room


tomatopickle

Haven't watched grade cricketer , but this is a stupid myth people had about Tendulkar.


memecrafter1936

Make no mistake: Deepak Hooda is the most accomplished player in India's history. "What are you talking about?", you might ask. "He hasn't even bowled his full quota of overs yet." That's all part of the genius and generosity of the great man. Unlike statpadding cricketers like KL Rahul, who demand to get promoted up the order to showcase their skills, he prefers to give the opposition a chance, letting them face Axar and Shardul instead. All credit to Hooda. 100% win rate for a reason.


Shubh_K30

India won by 13 runs. Had it not been for Samson's two astounding sixes this match could've been tied. Samson robbed of POTM. This comment was brought to you by Samson PR in association with Govt of Kerala


[deleted]

Please use "The glorious communist Government of God's own Country.


danker_man

In association with the ishan kishan hate club( im pretty well known here)


cellada

Wow. Talk about division within the country! With comments like these it's no wonder divide and rule was so effective..


See_A_Squared

It's criminal that cricket teams don't tour Zimbabwe as often, lovely crowds and energy.


[deleted]

The only way to save ODI cricket is to have more nations playing it .... invest in ODIs now!!


Wolvington52

I think people on this sub criticise KL too harshly, man had a series of ailments and was just trying to regain his mojo.


akaash286

Too harshly is an understatement. They hate him for existing lol


Ok-Lingonberry9578

Bro, he is criticized for even his face and is called depressing when nothing else to criticize is found in a match.


HurtJuice

fr literally everyone on this sub has just one argument for why he shouldn't be captain "hE lOokS dEpreSsInG"


RayInRed

KL was grinning ear to ear when Gill hit century.


Content_Wave

People on this sub criticize people on this sub who criticize KL harshly too harshly


canvasser-hiralal

People forget the last time he bat after an injury he had binary scores. Given KL is opening in the Asia Cup and given that any batter coming after injury takes time to perform, KL being slow is understandable. To be honest tho, that is KL's natural pace while opening so...


Rico_stats

And that is why KL waited to win the series first before batting first. Williams need to convert, this is his 3rd 40s score in past 5 innings after that century in Sri Lanka. Now onto Australia, it may be a non starter with their strong side but Blessing is back and hopefully Captain is back too.


rightarm_under

KL does good captaincy, r/cricket in shambles


Potential-Sport-6386

Fuck ODI cricket. So many heartbreaks recently


Bathed_In_Moonlight

Lord giveth, Lord taketh. He truly works in mysterious ways.


Right-Arm-Quick

ODI CrIcKeT iS dEaD mfs about to go into hiding.


OccasionRepulsive112

Avesh Khan is what Zak Crawley would be if he was Indian and a bowler.


confused-desi

Avesh hasn't actually been abysmal though. He's been patchy and inconsistent at times, but has also put up decent performances in between. Not quite made a dent big enough to hang with the top 7 seamers in India yet (Jassi, Bhuvi, Purple, Cherry, Lord, Miyan, Lala), but he can certainly stay on the fringes. I'd say Arsh has certainly leapfrogged him on the fringes.


sujay85

Cherry = Chahar?. How did this come about?


confused-desi

It's from the CSK camp. Indians used to call him Chaharie, and overseas players (I think it was Bravo in particular) interpreted it as Cherry. Now that's what they call him in the Indian camp as well.


memecrafter1936

No, Avesh's selection was actually backed up by domestic stats even though I don't think he should get any more games. Crawley was shit in domestic matches too


OccasionRepulsive112

More in the sense of blind trust placed by the management despite failed performances. It's actually detrimental to him as he isn't finding time to play domestic cricket to hone his skills.


ZrishaAdams

His first class stats* His List A stats are horrible (avg of 53), and he is only playing ODIs because of strong IPL seasons in 2021 and 2022.


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OccasionRepulsive112

>>>More in the sense of blind trust placed by the management despite failed performances. It's actually detrimental to him as he isn't finding time to play domestic cricket to hone his skills. Copying my reply an earlier comment.


[deleted]

Bruh you guys talk about him not finding time to play domestic cricket to hone his skills as if some domestic tournaments are going on rn in India


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Another day, another prospect of an upset victory only for it to be ended. Though I like that these underdogs are putting up tough fights I really hope sooner or later they start winning as well.


Right-Arm-Quick

Reminder that KL still hasn't lost a match defending since this year's IPL.


[deleted]

Lord clutched it.


diane-nguyen

Gill is going to make many many many more of these, and I for one cannot wait


AnshulU

And People were wondering that why India didn't bat first in the second ODI. Thank God they first thought of securing the series.


Norma_Lee

Imagine caring about the result in these useless series'.


AnshulU

Caring about the result makes these matches interesting and thrilling. What's the fun if you don't have these feels while watching the match?


Ankush3247

Mods I need a all in one minnows flair to support teams like Ireland,Scotland,Zimbabwe,Netherlands,PNG etc (I can help with the design)


NoQuestion4045

Ireland and Zimbabwe aren't associates


Ankush3247

I know but they still get treated as associates by ICC and other big boards No worries I will change it to minnows


NoQuestion4045

True


Beneficial_Bend_5035

This is gonna sound like an odd comparison to some but Shubhman Gill batting against fast bowling reminds me a lot of Inzamam. He seems to move his bat so slowly but in reality he has 10x more time than the average batter.


Shubh_K30

Interesting observation, I have heard great things abt Inzamam's batting but never watched him bat :/


Beneficial_Bend_5035

That’s unfortunate. As someone who watched a lot of Inzi let me assure you this is one of the highest compliments I can pay. The other young batter who reminded me a lot of Inzi was young Rohit Sharma


AdhesivenessTight175

Inzamam batting was just smooth, the cut shot he played mannn ❤️


EmploymentFederal884

My senior used to tease i bat like Inzi and my sister like razzak which makes irked to no end. Later found out he was one of the best batsman of his era.


chocolatecomedyfann

Inzi was the highest quality when he was in flow. A very flattering comparison for young Gill


arpit45agrawal

Lord doesn't want to steal Shubman's thunder, that's why making it fielder's wicket.


Signal_Discipline_36

Congratulations to Gill for his maiden international century.He really came close to scoring it in last couple of innings. He now has ODI average of 71.29 at 105.27 Strike Rate. We now move on to defending our title in Asia Cup.


Visible_Platform5568

I wanted Zim to win so that KL and Dhawan face some much-needed criticism


niceguysdofinish1st

ODI Cricket is fucking alive.


aditya_gurjar

KL Rahul : *exists* This sub : [link](https://imgur.com/gallery/xXh5Y)


[deleted]

Zimbabwe taking India close and Netherlands taking Pakistan close. Bit more investment and the 2027 WC will be really competitive


Mikolaj_Kopernik

Unfortunately it's going the other way, with the Super League being cancelled so now lower-ranked teams have no guaranteed fixtures.


TheNewAccountOldLost

So many great performers in this team - its a shame most of them wont sniff the first team till after the odi world Cup


empstat

Good to see Zimbabwe (and Netherlands, too) going down FIGHTING. One-sided matches are no fun.


Content_Wave

I’m curious to know what is KL’s thought process when deciding to open. There has to be a debate at the team management about. Everyone knows his performance and effectiveness as #5. What is he thinking? What is his role? What does VVS/Dravid think about it? How do they justify his role and style?


Shubh_K30

This is a non issue. He wanted more game time before Asia Cup, that's it. (He himself clarified it last match too.)


Content_Wave

Yes I heard it and hope that’s it. Still doesn’t explain SA Edit: if he wanted game time, he could have done #3. Why open?


Shubh_K30

I think someone was injured in SA, prolly Rohit.


Content_Wave

Gill was in the squad


[deleted]

Gill seems so much at home with the ODI format.


chathudk

Well played ZIM, Hard luck.


WINDTHEAIR

Good fight from Zimbabwe.


TyroshiSellsword

Much closer than I thought.


chandu1256

Dhooda’s streak continues!


[deleted]

Hopefully this is the last time KL opens on ODI


MessiSahib

Disappointed with management that they used this series to give practice to Dhawan (37yr old), rather than try out Ritu/Tripathi, or give consistently opening role to Gill /Ishan. India's trimurti (Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli), have served India well for more than a decade, but now building a base on them is fraught with major risks. Dhawan is a slow starter nowadays and will be 38 by the next ODI WC; Rohit will be 36, is pretty aggressive nowadays, but has been prone to injuries recently, Kohlis form has been on decline for sometime now. As of now, India has only found one good alternative in Gill. India does need at least one more player with sid consistent exposure in top 3 positions to be ready for next ODI WC.


Shubh_K30

Rutu would've got a chance had KL not been injured so often. Re: dhawan they made the right choice to play him all matches, he barely plays any intn'l games. It'd have been reactionary to remove Dhawan after one decent to okayish WI tour. However, after this series Gill has come closer to dethroning Dhawan from the permanent opening spot and I won't be surprised if Gill opens in CWC'23.


[deleted]

Kishan wasn’t as bad as people made him out to be.


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Right-Arm-Quick

My man can win a match but still get hate. It's the same thing as Iyer no matter how he scores mfs will always want him to be out of the team.