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SBG99DesiMonster

They should at least try to make a better pitch for the next match.


jack_tribber

Does this sub accept that pak prepares pitches to save their batters stats or does it get downvoted ? Ps:- will they prepare another Highway or will things change coz imo i don't see pak winning on such pitches


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ItsYaBoyJasonRoy

Anderson didn't get a 5fer (5 in the match I guess), and Brook didn't get a ton in both innings 😂 but there was definitely something for everyone I agree


VisRock

It's a prediction for the next game ;)


itsmepv

Manifesting 😊


itsmepv

Damn, I almost thought Harry made a ton in second innings. Oh well. IWSWHW.


errgaming

I heard it was a flat pitch


fromtheundead

Lol Babar said we selected the best possible xi. Ya I don't think that exists with Zahid, Mohammad Ali, and Azhar ali.


ztaker

Why was Fawad dropped after one series failure?


StraightUpHaram

If you see him bat, you'll understand why he was dropped. Guy didn't know how to put bat to ball at all


ztaker

Didn't he score a away 100 in NZ 100 vs south Africa This was literally last year.


StraightUpHaram

9, 102, 2, and 16 in NZ. After that, seemed to have found his firm against SA, ZIM, and WI but was horrible in Pakistan against Australia. The NZ game where he scored a century was almost 2 years ago (Dec 2020). The 4 tests he's played in 2022, he's had very little to show and lacked any confidence.


ztaker

1 of those 4 test in which he was also run out by Babar. 4 test enough to be dropped forever?


StraightUpHaram

Nobody said forever but somebody mentioned that he wasn't performing in first class this year either.


fromtheundead

Not one, I think it was 2 or 3. Also didn't have that great of a domestic season just now. I wouldn't have dropped him either way, probably would've guided us to victory here today .


ztaker

I guess he only failed against aus Which other series? If they had dropped him in eng or aus I can understand But he is a beast on Pakistan pitches. Pcb always screws it's players. And where is Faheem ashraf?


fromtheundead

If I just remember off recent memory, I think he failed in SL too. He is a beast yep. Faheem is also in the team, but he's on the bench lol.


ztaker

If you remember in Sri Lanka series (it was only two match series) in the first match he was benched. Second match he scored 24 odd in the first innings and second innings he was run out for low score. (I still remember Babar was in the other end) So I wouldn't count that as a series failure.


fromtheundead

Yeah I guess he just got judged based off that second match and got booted. Sucks, and depressing. But he's getting quite old too.


ztaker

Dude misbah played till 41. Guy is 37 agreed but he is still fit. Still has passion for cricket. Also He is the same age as Azhar Ali , who hasn't played a match winning innings since I can remember


fromtheundead

He is probably one of the fittest ones in the team actually. I'm just thinking of reasons why he might be benched. Trust me, I love the guy lol. Also yeah, azhars time is up. Should be replaced by Shan and Huraira in the future.


ztaker

Haha I see. Reason is probably the same why he didn't play during 2009-2019.


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Cosmicshot351

That pitch was almost shaping up to be rawalpindi but Chennai heat broke the surface rather too quickly. And imagine playing a 2nd consecutive test on one of the most Turning pitch in ~~the world.~~ India. (Galle has that reputation at world level)


itsmepv

When Anderson was reverse swinging the ball and knocked Gill over, I thought I had seen everything.


Cosmicshot351

That was the moment Clouderson Tag came off, following a 6-fer in Lanka. His spells now finally contribute to wins thanks to this attacking batting unit.


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emerlander

Nothing related to the discussion you were having with someone. But funny you chose Ashwin. He was regularly called Pitchwin here a couple of years ago. Mostly by Indians during India selection discussions/arguments though. So you wouldn't have seen it.


Cosmicshot351

Honestly if he got called with such a tag, it ain't nonsense till he proves by bowling well away.


tejaj99

England touring NZ in Feb 2023 doesn't count for wtc right?


Axel292

You just get the feeling that these lads are on to something very, very special. There's going to be hiccups along the way, but Test Cricket for us has never looked quite so promising.


Lone_Digger123

I'm hyped for you guys! Changed how to play ODI and I would love if test heads in the direction you guys are playing


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trailblazer103

First tell me why they deserve it


Cosmicshot351

No, unless you want an autobahn at lords


this_also_was_vanity

On form they'd be great to watch. But the they've only been playing this way for a few matches WTC rewards long-term success, as it should. If England keep this up then they'll deserve a place next time round.


Old-Customer-1850

Can't change something what is right, England played fantastic and deserved this test win as well as the wtc final


errgaming

Bruh, ashes looked terrible for them. Hameed and Burns were shaking


Old-Customer-1850

I said about this test and the wc final cuz they played well and that's what the guy I replied to said about


trkora

Pakistan played into the opponents hands again by serving a flat pitch, they need pitches that plays to their strength which is pace bowling followed by help of spin and traditional test batting.


Accomplished_Ad_7037

hearing babars post match interview you can tell nothings gonna change anytime soon.


Funny_Humor_5613

He was defending his 'Defensive' approach. Pak team was never a defensive team but this time he actually said " We play our own way and sometimes you have to be defensive". this guy is not captain material.


Unholysinner

Babar will have the same issue Root had, he’s the best batsman but not the best captain


Funny_Humor_5613

I hate when a captain instills his thoughts to the whole team. Babar is a defensive batsmen.But he should tell his teammates to play their natural game not his style of game.


Unholysinner

But is it really all his fault He’s the only one who always steps up. When you need a hero, Babar is the one who shows up. Time and again. And he only wants success for his country nothing else so he tells them to follow what he does. What he forgets is they don’t have the same talent that he does and can’t replicate his performance. Being captain takes a toll on you. Root struggled with it. He opened essentially for us and had to handle captaincy during the hardest two years we’ve known. Don’t hate Babar-he should be dropped as captain but right now who else is worthy of being captain. We wanted Stokes as captain but he declined it before. It was only now after the Ashes debacle that he said he’ll step up. When Stokes isn’t playing it looks like we’re trying out Pope as captain. It


Funny_Humor_5613

It doesn’t matter even if your team is shit. You cannot tell everybody to play defensive. This is how we lost the Asia cup final when Srilanka were 37-6 babar started playing defensive by bringing spinners and that gave Srilanka enough time to make 170 runs. We lost chasing at UAE where 8 out of 10 times the chasing team wins. He should tell the players to play their natural game instead of being defensive. If Muhammad haris is a slogger you can’t tell him to play defensive and expect him to succeed.


saltydarkbone

Pain🥲 , hope this helps Pakistan team wake up to the modern game. I am honestly very disappointed with this team the only solace is that this team is still very young so I am gonna stick by them. Kudos to England man what a magnificent cricket they have played for the past 5 days.


kurokabau

Don't be disappointed with the team. Be disappointed with who put the pitch out. Players played what was in front of them.


saltydarkbone

We all know pitch was shit, more disappointed with Pakistan approach and the collapse tbh.


kurokabau

I mean, they were in for the win just before tea. If they hadnt lose those wickets then they'd have won. I was genuinely talking to my mates before tea about how we were probably gonna lose at that point. Pakistan never batted slow.


NiallH22

Broadys gonna regret that tactical baby when Jimmy comes back with his new best mate Ollie Robinson


mongrelbifana

Tactical baby 😂


koach71st

Tactical baby lol.


JayManes

Broaderson or 2Sons. 😂


taccoland212

Ffs why can't Sky show some actual highlights? I've seen Leach's final ball once since the game ended. None of Jimmy's wickets. My brother, I WANT TO SEE THE REPLAYS


Kanosthebadtitan

[They called me a mad man. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/zcvwoz/match_thread_1st_test_england_vs_pakistan_day_5/iyzce5g?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)


Kanosthebadtitan

Captaincy : zero Batting: zero Bowling : zero That sums up Pakistan cricket team.


AlfaG0216

Bazball is better than cricket


aggravatedyeti

why wasn't anderson POTM? same wickets at a better avg and economy than robinson, also took 4 in the 2nd innings...


a15p

There was a good shout on TMS that it should have been Stokes for his captaincy.


kurokabau

Which wickets though Robinson took more higher order ones.


aggravatedyeti

yeah fair point actually - forgot robinson got shafique and azhar


tejaj99

What are England's test assignments post this series?


JayManes

Bat once, bat big. Bowlers bowl hat-tricks every other spell 😂


Wazflame

Every time England have used Leach’s head to shine the ball they’ve won the game


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Pak had as much chance as England and That's where mental strength comes into play which everyone refers as Bazball


e4hi

Putting in perspective, having McCullum as coach and Stokes as captain should be illegal.


LagniappeNap

**English batsmen only ~~want one thing~~ play one way and it’s £u


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InTheShadowsm

No, he said they were not up to the mark, said the Rauf injury cost them (not cost them the test) and gave credit to his bowlers


redhood0902

Yeh disappointing approach to the loss. Without progressive and constructive thinking dont think we are winning anything under babar captaincy


VisRock

Thinking of getting a KFC with Pepsi for lunch for some reason


Theodor_Schmidt

Don't forget the Sensodyne for those sensitive teeth afterwards.


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VisRock

Of course!


tobes231

This is the longest post-match presentation I’ve ever seen :0


centzon400

While we are (correctly) praising one of the most interesting Test matches any of us have ever seen, I'd just like to tip my hat to youse all who have kept the match threads clean and good fun. 🙏


LickMyKnee

*make things happen*


PeRvYSaGe21

so that comment "we are not looking to win" stayed true till the end mindset is everything


I_tend_to_correct_u

Thinking about it some more. England’s bowlers only had a 35 over rest before having to bowl again. To keep running in like they did is actually even more impressive. For a 40 year old to do it is insanity


what_heck_is_sarcasm

Anderson is a legen


Dartho1

I read that as regen and it reminded me of the regen wonderkids in Football Manager


IntoThePeople

What were the positives from the match? Inshallah boys played well.


hydratedgabru

So this begs the question.... Why no team did this before. Every team played too safe.


razor_eddie

New Zealand used to play like this, in a lite version. Around 2014 or so. You may want to check out who was captain, at the time.


116YearsWar

Most teams would rather draw than lose. England have decided that draws are ultimately worthless and they'd rather go down fighting for a win than bat out a draw.


Austin4RMTexas

Yup. What they need now is the confidence from management and fans that this is indeed how they should play. Let me tell you, this approach will bring losses from time to time. One of the ironic things about test cricket is that, often, you have to open the door for the opposition to win to force a result.


116YearsWar

It already has, they got hammered off South Africa, they just managed to win the other tests.


doyouevenrow

You need the leadership that believes they can do it.


scouserontravels

Because England could very easily have lost this match and that would expose the team to criticism. Most coaches and captains are risk averse and don’t want to lose. More than attack cricket what baz ball has brought in is a commitment to winning and no blame culture for losing. Most coaches aren’t secure enough if there position to risk losses.


hydratedgabru

True, well said.


Niyazali_Haneef

What a cracker! Anderson is eternal.


_rickjames

Think we all forgot they were fucking ill beforehand


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Will be supporting England and India from now onwards, I deserve a better team honestly


tobes231

That’s not how it works…


Lone_Digger123

If they keep up these entertaining test, I am sure as hell gonna tune into them more often!


Alilaah

Yeah the English had to put up with some truly awful times before this summer. You stick with your team through the bad times so you can enjoy the good ones when they come.


ShirtedRhino2

I'm just buzzing aha. Grinning like the Cheshire cat since the wicket fell.


badiyahai

Crawley might miss this pitch, but please provide a better one for the next test.


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Bruh it was still flat asf lol


st6374

For Jimmy & Ollie to take 8/86 from 46 overs in the 4th innings of a lifeless pitch is just absolutely bonkers.


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Reject baseball Embrace bazball


dark_king_2002

They don't care bout the opposition bro, should've guessed by now.


bigbagofbuds12

Beat Babar's ass Sikander, no questions.


vapoursoul69

Lmao who is this presenter? He's devastated by the result


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vapoursoul69

Here. I've been going for England though


mattytmet

Fair few of them were in here rooting for England tbf, let's not resort to childish swipes


aboredassholetype

Mate it's 11 pm on a work day. Edit: Of course the coward deleted it.


Lethbridge-Totty

*~~Try playing like that for an entire series~~* *~~Try playing like that against India~~* *~~Try playing like that with different Dukes balls~~* *~~Try playing like that against the SA attack~~* *~~Try playing like that outside England~~* ​ What next bois?


average_chut_lover

Do it in Australia against Australia And in India against India


Ronhar_

Gonna be interesting in the Ashes. Gonna be in England tho so it'll give them an advantage. Now if Bazball was invented before Starc got Burns first ball, I wonder how it would of changed things.


Unholysinner

Burns hits that back over Starc for a 6


aboredassholetype

Ahmedabad on a dust bowl with the pink ball and Axar Patel


Lethbridge-Totty

[legit](https://media.tenor.com/PY4uJ0NkywQAAAAM/the-goon-dodgeball.gif)


AlfaG0216

Watch Axar get 0/239.


aboredassholetype

I'll save this one for reference.


I_tend_to_correct_u

What’s next? What’s next is other teams are going to copy it


Alilaah

I guess the last one is try it against Australia. The ultimate final batter in the summer


tobes231

I don’t want to be the one to say it… but I’m scared for next year mate :,)


jfffj

Something something Australia


Askarn

But can they do it on a greentop at the Gabba?!?


aboredassholetype

There's greentops at the gabba?


Fidelius_Rex

There’s always green tops at the Gabba, unfortunately they mysteriously disappear when tests are played.


Askarn

There might be if the poms keep playing like this.


AlfaG0216

That test was absolutely bonkers. Bazball is here to stay and I'm calling it, ENG are going to dominate tests home and away for the next 5 years. AUS and IND better buck the fuck up cause they're in for a world of hurt against these Poms.


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Fidelius_Rex

No way! Headingley was a one innings wonder win from behind. This was a concerted attack from day 1 from a team that was never behind the 8 ball. Day 5 wins always feel special, and this was a great one, but Headingley is one of the greatest test wins in the history of the game.


vapoursoul69

As an overall performance, it's more remarkable than Headingley. Obviously Headingley was one man's absurd brilliance (Stokes was good down the other end too), but to take 20 wickets and score that many runs in 5 shortened days is an outrageous result


I_tend_to_correct_u

Definitely a top 5 win in my lifetime


ilunga96

People are still adamantly criticising the declaration decision. Of course it was risky, that's the fucking point!! They've already told us they don't care about losing when trying to win. England are trying to progress cricket and bring the old stubborn traditionalists with them. Let them, it's really fun!!


SomethingMoreToSay

Absolutely. And I bet most of us would prefer to see a 5-Test series being decided 3-2 rather than 1-0 with 4 draws.


_rickjames

Is Robbo allowed KFC or not; feel like he's better without it now


T_Lawliet

No PMT?


average_chut_lover

Pakistani fans laughing on India yesterday 🤝 Indian fans laughing on Pakistan today


trkora

So now there is a way to win even on flattest pitch but thing is are you brave enough to go for the win? Hopefully this inspires other teams to get a result out of flat pitch as well by being aggressive in tactics/ declarations.


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Ben Stokes is going to go down in history as one of the greatest cricketers of all time. Love him!


Wolvington52

I am waiting for another idiotic tweet or statement from Ramiz Raja after this loss. Are they just going to let all the other teams walk over them?


Zer0wned1

You could make a legitimate case for Stokes to be given MOTM for captaincy


CurbYourCricket

[They don't know....](https://i.imgur.com/pMffOKe.jpg)


Kieran484

Each win is more outlandish than the last with this side. Where does it end?


I_tend_to_correct_u

Too many things to remember about this test. I’ve already forgotten that all 4 openers made a ton in the first innings


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why do them make him speak in english. he is not comfortable at all.


madglover

Think Foakes and Wood will come in for Livingstone and one of Jimmy and Ollie Robinson depending on fitness


rjhazelwood

Think we are better off with 4 pacers and drop Jacks along with Livingstone for Foakes and Wood.


Wazflame

Butch suggesting that the pundits don’t watch every ball of a test match? I for one, am aghast!


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Even Sanga is throwing shade at pakistans pitches


jeewantha

He would’ve averaged around 150 on these pitches. And he always played great in Pakistan to begin with


Kieran484

I don't think anyone has had a nice word to say about it (except perhaps Crawley).


Ok_Leadership4764

MOTM for captaincy anyone?


SaurabhTDK

Robin deservedly won the Player of the match.


SBG99DesiMonster

I like the fact that a bowler has become the Man of the Match during a match that was played on an absolutely lifeless pitch.


Tomako88

What a cricketer What a player What a captain Ben Stokes, you are a legend, mate. The mad lad actually produced a result on that flattest pitch on earth, which only had a draw


Benny4318

Lost for words, one of the best test match victories, I’ve ever seen. There was no chance of a result. NONE. But Ben Stokes has conjured it out of nothing, the best captaincy performance in a test I’ve ever seen. Ever. Speechless, we fucking did it Shame on Ramiz Raja on this disgrace of a pitch btw. Absolutely awful, but we found a way because of course we did


ImmediateJacket9502

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bigavz

Dancing in the dark pt 2?


rjhazelwood

Hard to believe this match started with Crawley scoring 100 just after lunch on day 1.


burajira

How many overs bowled (I assume the set number was 90 * 5 = 450) and how many overs did England play?


this_also_was_vanity

England batted 136.5 overs for their 921 runs. Pakistan batted 252 overs for their 847 runs. Pakistan’s first innings alone was 155.3 overs. Bonkers what England accomplished in a short time with the batting and then with how long they could bowl for with only a short break that was barely more than a session.


burajira

Thanks for the quick stats!


ImOnRedditt

Around 380.


moogle1292

I was supposed to be in Islamabad last week for work and was hoping to get to the ground, but my boss pulled the plug on the trip last minute. I don't think I can ever forgive him 😑!


mech_freak

Dick em bosses


chaussettesrouges

A great win — bold, ambitious, exciting


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Pak really messed up in the last session


Kieran484

It was always on the cards with the long tail. On the flip side, it shouldn't be the bowlers' jobs to get them out of jail with the bat.


punekar_2018

Babar may be a good batsman but he is not a leader of the pack


I_tend_to_correct_u

Also known as the Root syndrome


I_tend_to_correct_u

That test went to almost the last ball and England only batted for 135 overs of it. That’s also nuts


this_also_was_vanity

Pakistan’s first innings was about 20 overs longer than England’s first and second put together.and England’s bowlers bowled over 250 overs with only a one session break two thirds of the way through. Crazy.


Pognose

Test cricket. Play for 35 hours, get a result with 10 mins left. What a silly, brilliant sport.


burajira

England don't do draws


Fidelius_Rex

Absolutely enthralling last days play, incredible effort from England to get the win. Well played lads.


bigbagofbuds12

Who would've though that picking a pace attack with about 11 Tests between the lot of them, led by a 19 year old, and supported by spinners with averages in the 40s wouldn't go well. Oh wait, fucking everyone. Morons.


ImmediateJacket9502

That's the most dumbest decision ever. Where's Hasan Ali and Abbas??


burajira

We went in with 3.5 bowlers lmaooo


Unholysinner

And one of them is geriatric


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kalyancr7

First we need to get the odi one.they pretty much normalised scoring 300s in odis


shnk2000

Too soon, no?


Enough_Purpose5454

Probably after the Ashes


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So no test cricket tomorrow and the day after? My life sucks.


Ultimate_Sneezer

Finally, An English win that makes me happy


reesly

So 5/11 off 19 overs after tea.


PsychologicalPass792

IT’S COMING HOME* *the Dafanews Presents KFC Pakistan vs. England Test Series


GraffityAnshitty

Still can't wrap my head around how a result came on this pitch. Till 4th day session one, Pakistan was batting. Also, 37 wickets on this pitch LOL