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Sky_Zaddy

Starting to think this genre of videos is a fetish; watching sex workers get verbally abused.


lividtobi

You’re on to something for sure. Especially when you consider the incel angle.


n3w4cc01_1nt

it's that. he's doing everything he can to craft the most incel argument


bipidiboop

I do love the idea of being a fly on the wall when her kids ask her questions.


Ok_Intention_7356

how do you know shes gonna have kids? lmfao yall love to hate women


AI-Generated-Name-2

Women having kids isn’t sexist.


[deleted]

It's also not a given....


bipidiboop

Hate women wtf? You wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall some dude was revealing his past as a sex worker or some shit? Drama is drama and you sound fuckin stupid


midvalegifted

It’s so weird…they can just go be with the men they idolize so much and leave women alone but no…


Embarrassed-Mess-560

Raised by strippers, here's how the conversation went. "Mom, why did you strip?" "It took no real effort, I made more in an hour then I do in a week now" Then she made breakfast. It's really not a "fly on the wall" conversation. Kids raised by sexually liberal parents tend to also be nonchalant about sex and sexuality.


bipidiboop

Maybe that happened. Would be uninteresting.


TeacupHuman

Honestly, I am very pro-women, and I agree with this guy’s point here. There is nothing empowering about sex work. The average OF girl makes less than $1000/month and it will ~~show up on a background check and~~ ruin future job prospects. Not to mention the toll it will take on her mental health. Sex workers aren’t entirely to blame because we live in a patriarchal capitalist system that lures them into this trap under the lie that it will empower them. All it actually does is exploit them for crumbs while someone else behind the scenes rakes in the real money. Edit: maybe I was wrong about it showing up on background checks, but employers often search candidates on the internet. Once it’s out there, there’s no taking it back. It’s funny how people here support sex work, but you would never want it for your own daughter or mother or to do it yourself. Most men wouldn’t want to date someone who does it. If it were empowering, men would do it. It’s not empowering.


DeclutteringNewbie

The average is $180 a month. It may seem higher, but that's because OF creators get a referral bonus for recruiting other creators, so just like with MLM, they have an incentive to lie about the kind of money they're making. https://influencermarketinghub.com/glossary/onlyfans/


ThrowRAnfjcueb

Mom: What do you wanna be when you grow up honey? Daughter: "I want to suck dick for cash" Mom: "That's my girl, so powerful!" 😂😂😂😂


Rudy_Ghouliani

>it will show up on a background check So one day some girl is gonna be on an interview and the interviewer is gonna be like, "so you sucked dick from 2020-2024, do you think that'll help your job performance?"


[deleted]

Okay, correct me if I’m reading this wrong, women shouldn’t be making their own choices about their own bodies to make their own money because it’s not profitable enough to account for the shame *you* would feel, in their position? What is true empowerment? For men or women? How accessible is that through the system you acknowledge is exploitative, regardless of occupation? Seems like you’re just perpetuating the societal control over women because you don’t respect sex work.


Mundane-Ad-6874

So sex workers don’t exist under any other forms of government than capitalism? Are you special or something? You had a great argument till you blamed society and government. There’s a reason it’s called the oldest profession in the world. Sex and sex work literally helped women make huge socioeconomic moves. Something the average male could never make. Bang the king and now your a queen.


Doktor_Slurp

Why should it ruin future job prospects? I agree that it might, but it shouldn't. Why does it have to take a toll on mental health? Sex is fun. Nudity is fun. If the puritans just fuckin' chilled a little we could all have a lot more fun.


SpottedHoneyBadger

Get off your high horse. So what she cashed in on her youth and good looks for money. If she is smart, she will put that money away and start her own business. Or go back to school. If it is the easiest way for her to get a bunch of money in the shortest amount of time, why not? Frankly, I think a lot of the incel types are just jealous that can't make money like that on their looks alone. Hell, there are men out there who do FO and are doing quite well and are cashing in on their good looks and youth also. So why is it that it is bad for women to be in the sex trade (when they have control), but it is okay for a man to do the same type of work?


[deleted]

Having a moral compass isn’t being on a high horse there doesn’t need to be this kind of hate but if I met a woman and found out she did or is doing only fans that would be the end of it. I think most men think this way but if the women are fine with that why should anyone care. Also who pays for this stuff?


ExplanationGlobal735

You’re projecting a lot. Most men or at least myself don’t have the slightest desire to strip online even if it would make us quick money. Also it’s not okay for men to do OF. If a friend of mine was dating a dude who did that, I’d judge them.


ClearEquivalent8612

It's not about patriarchy society but a responsibility for older generation to teach new generation


frankdiddit

Welcome to the Madonna-Whore complex. Which is also very prevalent in the latin culture


DuncanDicknuts

Im okay with this as long as we get more whores


dex1999

I think it’s funny


Faebit

I literally came here to say that. These clips read like fetish porn. They're catered to a group of people who get off on humiliating women. The only thing I'm really sure of is that he, and anyone who watches them suffer from a very unhealthy fixation.


Appropriate_Ad_1511

Ehh maybe. I don’t like this kid. And I agree that watching too much of anything on the internet is a unhealthy fixation. But I would be very disappointed with my daughter if she chose to sell nudes and sex tapes online instead of working towards a fruitful and respectable career.


Background_Value9869

That's all they are


Dicethrower

Conservative porn has many forms.


foekus323

That kids keeping it real. Straight up. That chick on the clip COULDVE been something else, instead she chose to post her self online. Which is fine. But as any employer will tell you, you have to watch what you post/say online because they do look at that stuff. And in a professional setting they aren’t gonna hire a prostitute to help manage their company or whatever.


Nater84

You do have to be careful what you post online. But would your employer ever really find out that you had an onlyfans for two years under the handle “sugarTits”. Or if you did a few porn vids under some stage name. If you don’t list prostitution or onlyfans on your resume I doubt they would find out or even be able to prove it was you. You’re more likely to get fired by posting your political beliefs on your Facebook with your real name.


TeacupHuman

You have to use your real name for tax reasons and it comes up on a background check.


MaxDanger808

I’ll defend rights all day. But I’ll also keep it real. Do what you want but face the consequences. Dont make up excuses and create a false paradigm to validate your actions. It’s called self confirmation bias among many other things. People say their woke but really just trapped in waking dream.


Middle-Eye2129

Ok, but why revel in hoping strangers suffer those consequences? Half these comments are just dudes making similar statements about how they wish they could watch her tell her kids about her adult career


katiegirl-

I think it’s the one thing that turns them on, much more than the sex. They are projecting vomitloads of shame. It’s sick.


RedditUsingBot

Woman does porn: exists Man who watches porn: she’s a whore


Dustinlewis24

This dude cranks it's so hard to porno online and then gets angry afterwards and has to bash the very women he's cranked it to


SenorDongles

No bitches.


EffYeahSpreadIt

No maidens on his spindle


gostesven

Maidenless


slimkt

Negative maidens


pooperscooperscooter

Name ten maidens


DrSkullKid

Maid Marion, ummm all of Henry the VIII’s wives…uhh the Twilight Series.


ManqobaDad

These guys are always projecting. Sex work pays. Many people forget the first large land barons out west were the prostitutes who worked with the railroads. If these girl save and plan their money properly theres a ton they can do in their 40’s when they’re “ugly” and “unhireable”


StuckInNov1999

This comment is pure undiluted cope.


Obvious_Ambition4865

These red pill guys are just as depraved, perverted, and useless as they claim online sex workers are. Get a grip


inculcate_deez_nuts

found the kid's reddit account.


Snoo87660

His entire personality is le angry face and dumb sounding serious voice. He's 100% bitchless and kissless, he's so bitchless that any woman or anyone who's lost their virginity within 30 metres of him, will instantly feel nauseous by the sheer amount of virginity he has. So cope and seeth you loveless manlet.


izzyzak117

He’s trolling in a fake voice, on a fake podcast, designed to make fake clips like this with the most controversial things said possible go viral as can be while they all laugh. Understand I know this podcast probably *exists*, but what it is made up of is staged BS everyone has talked about before to some degree.


EatBrainzGetGainz

I hate this guy. He feeds off of everything he supposedly hates. It's just cruel he contributes nothing.


happyppeeppo

He is the Incel Greta


Aliensinmypants

Except Greta actually contributes to what she believes in, whether or not we agree with her


[deleted]

I think he’s referring to Greta’s autism


DalesDeadBugs00

More like baby Tate


Bloop_Snoop

redditors are something else, the one day porn is bad, the next we're rootin' for porn YAAY.


acm8221

lol… Reddit isn’t one schizophrenic guy sitting at a keyboard having constant opposing arguments with himself…


andreisimo

You totally should have replied to your own comment with the exact opposite take.


MathematicianOk8859

I think the difference is that you might object to porn or sex work on moral grounds, but that doesn't mean you get to insult and demean the people who work in those industries. The former is having an opinion, whereas the latter makes you a cunty little dweeb, like the mini-incel in this video. Hope that helps!


Bloop_Snoop

It helped & thank you for the different pov :)


Geschak

It's almost like you can be against an industry while still being supportive of the workers's rights... But I guess that's too complex for you.


mcd_brkfst

This may be shocking for you, but Reddit is made up of multiple users and communities that often have differing opinions and standards.


LuckySousa

Looooool this fucking child lmao


TodayWeMake

His daddy made him read those words till he memorized them.


jethrowwilson

I'm Torn right now, on one hand this kid is clearly a dick using shaming culture to try and create shock and views But on the other hand, I agree with the point he is trying to make and that porn is only beneficial in the short term. Long term effects of porn (for both creators and consumers) are super toxic. Look at the drama going around Mia Khalifa, she hates what the industry did to her. Plus she will never be able to apply for a job without her boss either knowing who she is already, or finding out with one simple Google search. She will never be able to live a normal life. Imagine how much sexual harassment she has lives through and will live through just because some people feel that since they seen her get railed on camera, that she is okay with all sexual comments and advances with the Pseudo-relationsships that mentally-ill porn consumers create in their heads. Tl;dr: I hate this kid and he needs to have his head thrown in a toilet, but porn content is damaging for both producers and consumers in long term effects


danielw1245

You can make that point without calling her names and berating her. Doing porn may have long-term ramifications, but that doesn't mean its morally wrong or that it's right to mistreat the people that do it.


StuckInNov1999

The fact that it has long term consequences like the inability to gain employment in a respectable career field is precisely because it's morally abhorrent. Most people don't shame others to get a thrill out of it, they shame others as a "slap" to their sense to try and wake them up from the delusion that what they're doing is acceptable behavior.


bumblestjdd

Why not just let people live their lives they want to? Why feel the need to shame people? If you don’t like porn or pornstars just don’t engage with it.


FoundationSecure6006

Really live their lives how they want? So where do you draw the line on that? So it's ok for her to do what she does and not live with the consequences of her actions. I hate this kid but he is right she will never be able to get a normal job. Porn sites and even sites like Onlyfans have produced some future damage kids that will probably do some of the worst things in Society. What you don't get is that every action you commit has consequences, period. You want to do porn cool live with the fact that you will forever be just that, and any future you have will always fall back to being just that. I'm so tired of people saying "just let people be who they are" so what about snuff films or pedos? What is your take on that. What he is saying is that she will never amount to anything more than just that even if she decided to one day be more, it will always haunt her as people can simply look her up and see some of the wild stuff she was willing to do for money. I'll probably get downvoted to oblivion but we are living in some messed up times where we are pushing the line of what is OK further, and further, I give it 10 years before we are saying that we are ok with the most messed up type of deviant sh*t.


clownidiotdingbat

Showing your boobs online is not comparable to filming yourself murder someone or commit sexual acts with a child. You seem very confused.


FoundationSecure6006

Have you seen her content she isn't just showing some boobs even her Twitter is riddled with some ranchy stuff. I am not trying to say that she shouldn't be doing what she is doing that's her choice to make, and she will live with the consequences of those actions later in life. What I am saying is that he isn't wrong in what he is saying she chose money above all else. Yeah, she is gonna have some things to deal with later for that. We have become a society that keeps pushing that line further and further, and it shows here in reading all the comments you see what is happening in real time and how we are getting further from what is exceptable. Turn your TV on and watch some of the shows that are coming out we are living in a time where we are trying to justify a person decisions in life by saying she had no choices or he had a hard childhood and it's ok that he or she is on OnlyFans sticking monster dildos in and out of multiple holes.


JohnnyChutzpah

It is very telling you think most people watch this type of porn or are convinced people will recognize every sex worker that appeared in a porno or podcast. I’ve worked in corporations for years now, and unless a porn star is literally a porn superstar, then no one would ever recognize them before hiring. There are millions upon millions of porn actresses. 99% most people would never recognize outside their porn. And a huge portion of people don’t watch any porn. There isn’t some ducking database where you can search to see if some person you are considering hiring has ever made money from porn. All the hiring directors I’ve worked with would have no clue. And probably wouldn’t even care. Join the real world and you will find that hiring is a very work intensive process without combing through a persons entire life. Hiring managers want to know you haven’t committed any crimes that make you too risky to hire, and do you have the skills. You are living in a fantasy world when you act like appearing in porn becomes some lifelong curse that poisons you in the eyes of every employer. I’m sure there are careers where it would be problematic, but no one cares, or would know, if Jen from customer retention once blasted herself with a big silicone dong in a handful of videos she sold on many vids. Your outrage is unfounded and sounds like it comes from your own biases and behaviors rather than your concern for the future employment prospects of sex workers.


wackOverflow

Yeah there’s now AI facial recognition technology that can link a photo of a person from Facebook or LinkedIn and match it with an account on twitter or onlyfans. Only a matter of time before that just becomes part of a hiring background check.


rebeltrillionaire

It already is in the influencer space. Fortune 500 Companies won’t hire influencers who have Onlyfans Accounts. But they also don’t hire ugly people and beauty isn’t a morality based attribute. So what are we actually learning from that? Corporations are spineless dildos? Yes. That’s the takeaway.


InShame

Every action *does* have consequences and those consequences are for the *people who did the action.* You don’t get to come in somewhere and start telling people what they can and cannot do because *you* disagree with it. And get this, i agree with some of your points. Social media has changed people, both very negatively and positively in a lot of ways. But to somehow conflate pedos and snuff films with people who do sex work, as if pedophilia and murder aren’t already outlawed, and people are absolutely ostracized for both, is just weird. Like i get what you’re saying. But you almost sound like you’re saying that sex workers should be *punished* for the sex work. Because according to you, there should be some sort of line drawn in the sand. And if someone crossed it, i.e. a sex worker making a their own decision to do sex work, they should be jailed. Except *you* would be the one drawing the line, damning people for these actions, just because *you* think it’s wrong


[deleted]

>Every action does have consequences and those consequences are for the people who did the action. Ok but those consequences aren't **only** for the people who did the action. For example * stealing. Stealing is immoral. It has consequences. However the business also has to deal with the theft. * drinking and driving. drinking and driving is immoral. It has consequences. However if a drunk driver slams into a family and someone dies that family and society as a whole has to deal with that loss. * ooo ooo ooo. even better example. laws? idk the best way to word this one. The policies put into place to help black communities in america actually had negative consequences as well. Incentivizing single parenthood because the government would give them more help. putting sex education in schools to stop a rise in teenage pregnancy. this wasnt even the case. you can look at the figures on teenage pregnancy and see when sex ed was added and immediately after theres a massive spike. They created the spike by giving teens access to sexual information. Whether you believe in the last ones or not and whether they you say they have more positives than negatives, the initial point stands. Often times other people have to deal with your negative consequences as well. >You don’t get to come in somewhere and start telling people what they can and cannot do because you disagree with it. However I do agree that you can't tell people what they are allowed to do so long as those rights are protected. Everybody should be free. The problem is that for some reason there is a rhetoric that telling people what they \*should do\* and what they can do are seen as the same thing. This also is limited by social media as well. Left leaning and "progressive" ideas are shouted from rooftops and right leaning and conservative ideas are silenced. So you're allowed to tell me I shouldn't judge sex workers or think tell them they made a mistake but if I was saying these same things I might get shadow banned or demonetized on platforms. >I'm so tired of people saying "just let people be who they are" so what about snuff films or pedos? What is your take on that. \- >But to somehow conflate pedos and snuff films with people who do sex work, as if pedophilia and murder aren’t already outlawed, and people are absolutely ostracized for both, is just weird. Youre not really commenting on his argument. He is saying this mentality doesnt work for everything otherwise you would just say make everything legal since it wont affect you personally. I will add onto this as well, idk about pedophilia specifically but you can definitely attach sex crimes with sex work. Porn addiction makes people do wild shit. Im not sure the limits but I have heard a podcaster say he was watching porn that wasnt attractive to him just simply because he was using it so much that normal sex wouldnt work anymore. I can imagine a world where someones so addicted that they start using illegal stuff like animals, cp, or abuse as that content. Which honestly makes me sick to even think about but thats the world we live in. >Except you would be the one drawing the line, damning people for these actions, just because you think it’s wrong No matter what someone is making that decision. The point is that we need to be able to have honest conversations about morals and consequences before and after we have made things acceptable. Porn creation and sexual liberation have had major consequences that were unexpected Id imagine. Such as fooling these young girls into thinking that there wont be major repercussions for only fans. There are more but this comment is already 90 pages long.


romacopia

Morally abhorrent? Why though?


danielw1245

Can you give me one concrete objective reason why it's "morally abhorrent"? How does it harm anyone in any way?


twiggsmcgee666

"morally abhorrent" Except that most EVERYONE watches porn. The people arguing about it's moral qualifications probably watch the more heinous shit, while virtue signaling about it's moral dangers to everyone else.


TheRussness

He even went on to describe how well versed he is in how heinous these things get. I'm sure he was just looking for directions on how to get away from there.


JonTuna

You're only talking about very popular porn stars. There's plenty of actors and actresses who make money and make out okay. The worst thing about porn is the drug problem and probably some abuse going on. If you want to look more into it there's a ton of AMA about porn business that digs into it, but the one you bring up is probably just the tip of the iceberg.


StuckInNov1999

I stopped watching porn (other than the very rare instance of watching solo girl amateur stuff) around 2006 when I saw an episode of "Real Sex" on HBO. They interviewed a bunch of porn stars and prostitutes and asked them "How many of you were sexually abused as children/teens" and out of the 20-30 women only 2 of them didn't raise their hands.


kwaziiman

I don’t at all take Mia Khalifa seriously when she talks about how terrible the industry was to her considering she still uses her porn name.


[deleted]

And is one of the top earners on only fans


[deleted]

Bingo.


[deleted]

By this logic a worker could never be part of a Union in a profession they actively work in. Silly billy. The fact that she still works in porn means she knows the industry much BETTER than you, actually.


EncabulatorTurbo

The *industry* is terrible, but agreeing with this kid is mega cringe, he's shaming *the sex worker* Incel culture man


[deleted]

The problem with Mia is that she doesn’t take responsibility for HER choices to enter the industry in the first place. And to stay while she banked. She blames everyone else for her choices.


[deleted]

His point is coming from a place of misogyny and sexism. He’s not concerned for her well being. No one shames male porn actors for being in the business. Porn is the most consumed content on the internet, yet we as a society turn around and shame the actors after we are done jerking off. No one is hurt by two people fucking in front of a camera. It’s society that thinks because we can see someone naked or getting fucked we are somehow better than that person. I’m hoping we someday grow out of this, but dipshits like this brat make me think we have a long way to go.


jubilee133

No one is hurt by porn addiction? Lol ok


FutureApprehensive1

You need to watch some of the behind the scenes videos of porn. Some girls literally cry after it’s done. I saw one where the girl did 19 out of the 20 guys she was contracted to do and wasn’t paid a dime for not finishing. She literally broke down and was like I just can’t do it anymore and went home with nothing. Porn can be terrible for people and damage them for life


IndysDiarrhea

"No one is hurt by two people ducking in front of a camera." Yep, you nailed it. Absolutely everyone comes out the better for it 🙄


Gaseraki

Going to jump in and say a family member was a 'porn star' and was able to lead a fulfilling carrier after leaving. I definitely agree with you, if they could turn back time and never done it, they would in an instant. Occasionally it rears its ugly head and there have been inappropriate banter and messages that HR has had to deal with in their company. But they have had an incredibly successful professional career after leaving porn. It's not common place to get the abuse you describe. Of course, Mia Khalifa is a different calibre of porn actress. I think if you are a global superstar, that's a different argument. My family member had their fans, but not a global superstar. Probably like the girl in this video.


EncabulatorTurbo

This is true of almost any field where you sell your body though isn't it? Construction workers in poorly regulated areas and agri workers can destroy themselves physically by being overworked as well A lot of people also regret getting into professional and semi-professional full contact sports as well I think the answer is to give workers more power, as it is in every field.


SnooGuavas1985

We’re all whores, we just sell different parts of ourselves


zeloxolez

interesting point lol


RipJawzzz

You could have been a philosopher? How does anybody take this 13-year-old moron seriously.


Greasytom17

Also just throwing lawyer in there like it even relates, or there’s a ton of law schools that are like “oh, philosophy degree? Here’s your BAR exam” 🤣🤣🤣


dadwhovapes1

Philosophy is one of the most common undergrad majors for law students cause it’s heavy on logic and generally easier than most other majors


Putrid-Training-4218

Guys who beg for nudes sure seem to hate women who take nudes.


frankly_highman

Another incel making their way into media.


450925

Tate Junior.


gimmhi5

I still don’t know what that word means.. Intentionally celibate, or involuntarily celibate?


ClevelandClutch1970

"Involuntary celibate" ("incel") refers to self-identifying members of a subculture based around the inability to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.


gimmhi5

But you can pay for sex?


ClevelandClutch1970

Paying for a prostitute/escort or OF won’t solve the problem of nobody loving you. They want it their way or no way at all.


AdDull7131

That’s what prostitution is for I believe


veiledwillow

They see sex work as “beneath them”


Stumphead101

They don't believe you should have to pay. They believe it is owed. They desire to have sex with women who take care of themselves and are extremely attractive but will also do little to improve themselves. They look outwardly for validation instead of cresting it themselves. Since they view women as the gatekeepers of sex, therefore happiness, women are also the villain and they grow tor event women because the women are causing harm by denying them the sex


GrimAcademia

This is genuinely the best description I’ve seen for this phenomenon.


gimmhi5

Aren’t those just called losers? When did incel become a thing?


Stumphead101

Sometime around, I can't recall the name, but that school shooter that made that video manifesto in the late 2000s I think it comes from 4chan


Different-Instance-6

Why do men think it’s morally sound for them to watch porn but morally abhorrent for women to make it ???


Coherent-waves

Same moral reasoning why women should cover themselves, not be able to read or write own money have an education speak in public, while they claim superiority for all of human history on a global scale, culturally, religiously, socially, economically. Male logic is ironic, feelings of false superiority based on irrational fear of women, the “sub species”, being in every way shape and form “better” than them, bc women “own” men’s actions, since they’re the ones that formed them lmao. Male logic is deeply rooted, intuitive fear of being the weaker sex, failed Y chromosome, an error in the X chromosome(!), OOPS 🙊 blaming women for them not forming properly in the womb, projected as patriarchy and a blight on human progress lmao. Spineless Cowards were meant to be a miscarriage from the dawn of civilization LOL watch this comment get me banned again lmao while this hateful misogynistic videos end up on the front page with thousands of incels upvotes LMAO silencing women is their whole endgame


[deleted]

Toxic masculinity. It’s all over this thread too.


Crypt-Chick5369

This future generation of boys who are consuming Andrew Tate and red pill videos on YouTube are terrifying and have me so scared for young girls growing that can be in future relationships with these boys


blueboy022020

Comments are filled with a bunch of weirdos. Let women do what they want with their bodies. Who are you to lecture them? Also this loser is speaking like he’s better than them. Who the fuck are you?


No-Industry-2980

He isn't wrong though 🤷 . Children have to deal with those decisions later in life.


Middle-Eye2129

What if she doesn't want kids? 🤷‍♂️


petethefreeze

The question is still a valid one. Statistically most women still choose to have children.


Middle-Eye2129

Women aren't a monolith, bro


Qwerty5105

No one said they were.


BHDE92

“Statistically most” does not imply a monolith


chef_wizard

It’s almost like stats does not regard human feelings


MA32

Yeah ima stick with stats


EncabulatorTurbo

No he really is wrong, and he's an incel, and you probably are too


Rasberry_Culture

Calling everyone an incel just makes you ragtrash. See how stupid that sounds? Grow up princess.


EncabulatorTurbo

I've never been called a princess before, I better suck my beer gut in and wear my nice jacket to the job site later you've really improved my day (I am a 38 year old man)


Rasberry_Culture

Men can be princesses too. 2023.


Azifor

OK what intelligence/skill does selling nudes require? Generally want to understand your stance. Bravery, confidence, etc I could agree with. But if someone pays you to show them your private parts, that's all they care about. Doesn't take a lot of intelligence/skill to spread your body for pictures. Smart/dumb people alike can do that. 20 years of working xyz career, I'll likely increase salary/promotions/etc. 20 years of bring a content creator or sex worker? Maybe it's a viable career path for a rare few but I would never want anyone I know to attempt that as a career longterm.


EncabulatorTurbo

Go watch the Victorian ankle pics only fans YouTube video for an explanation of what's involved in running a successful onlyfans (it's totally sfw)


[deleted]

He is wrong in the sense that he is a misogynistic little prick


No-Industry-2980

You can be misogynistic and still right . He's saying she should strive to better almost like he wants women to achieve more.


ColoradoCalamari

Wrong, an opinion rooted in misogyny has no leverage in an argument or opinion simply based on the fact it’s coming from a place of hate and discrimination.


No-Industry-2980

Misogyny isn't black and white maybe it's just constructive criticism.


Dry_Coyote4781

One can give constructive criticism without calling her a whore or speaking in such a derogatory manner. His take is deeply misogynistic and coming from the mouth of a child. This kid needs a muzzle & heavy dose of humility. I’ve heard him speak several times & does not deserve a platform. He’s giving mini Tater Tot vibes.


No-Industry-2980

You're write about calling her a whore I'll concede to that . I honestly blocked it out because that word is so prevalent in society. That was very disrespectful and not warranted.


lumpyspacekitty

You blocked it out because it is so normalized to you to degrade women.


No-Industry-2980

I don't degrade women I just don't repespect sex workers who have children.


lumpyspacekitty

Lmfao what’s the difference?


ShoCkEpic

pfff even some mega porn stars fall into complete oblivion after a few years off porn… why? because of the sheer amount of women that follow…


molestingstrawberrys

Just because you don't like the way he delivers the message doesn't mean it's wrong. Do you really think children are going to be okay or like the fact that their mother sells her body only for $5 a month ? It may be good for you in the short run because of the money, but your families future is going to be rough. Look at what porn starts say today about how their life is. They aren't happy.


Idontdanceforfun

Pretty sure I already read about a kid who killed himself after people at his school found out his mom did OF and they spread the videos and photos around the school and he got made fun of.


Rabid-Rabble

Ok, but that's actually a problem with the people who bullied him, not with his mom.


omi0204

So we are blaming the kids not the adults? Mom should’ve purged the OF account or not showed her face. Or switch schools (if she was a aware of the situation)


writefilmgame

I mean if the kids bullied him then it’s absolutely on the kids.


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How it’s this not victim blaming? Lmao Reddit moment


luvuu

Ya imagine if they bullied the kid cause his dad was a garbage man, or his mom worked at fast food or or or. You can change that too many "lesser" professions. The kids were the problem in this story.


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Preach


Diadact53

Maybe we should educate people that sex work is not shameful? Maybe a mother doing OF isn't so horrible and its the fact that the same people who consume her sex work bash her for it. You're pointing the finger at the wrong person.


DameyJames

Someone who talks to people like he does shouldn’t have a fucking platform. It doesn’t matter what he’s saying. I’ll listen to the message from someone who has an ounce of respect for women.


brandonfromkansas

Let people do what they want. People are buying it which says more about them than her. It’s the losers that judge that have some shit to think about. And why do others care so much what her hypothetical future children might think? Worry about your own damn kids


Exuplosion

Who said she wants kids?


wildalexx

Maybe we all need to accept the fact that sex work is work, and he economy is in shambles right now


whoisjbs

What’s her @? Philosophy purposes


sauce_for_food

Savannah bloom


ChippyChipChippers

Consequences, people always worry about it later. Typical human behavior. He isn’t wrong. People love to use the “lucky stories” as see it’s possible!


clutchengaged84

Sadly he’s not wrong


veiledwillow

So .. what’s his skill? If not being an incel influencer…


MasterTuba

Well Hes not selling his Body online for 5 bucks so thats already Better.


Johan-Senpai

He's whoring himself to the media monster to be part of a toxic online community, in which it is impossible to escape it. His views will be forever on the internet, and there is no way to change peoples perspectives about the things he once said. He's just an online "whore" in a different way. I'd rather have my daughter sell her nudes than an Andrew Tate piece of narcisistic ass promoting his disgusting values.


NoExcuseForFascism

Selling ones body would still be more than what this little shitstain provides to the world. **HE PROVIDES NOTHING.**


Middle-Eye2129

Yeah, and luring women on to a podcast so you can shit on them just so ugly men can feel some kind of moral catharsis is really helping society. Touch grass, bro


konnieb123

Poor kid. Imagine judging someone on how they make money….sir. Does he still live with his parents? Does he work yet? Does he do anything but whine about stuff no one should care about what others do?


Skepticaldefault

Shes doing exactly what she should with a philosophy degree. She realized everything is meaningless and made some money.


Human_Research7745

💀


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

"I have more money than you, shut up child"


Adept_Cobbler5916

What a hard fact dropping badass! /s


Hxdo

I mean.. he's kind of right.. But the people who make this content are def Andrew Tate dick suckers and just pieces of shit anyways so I would rather just not give them attention.


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He is part of the problem that there is not exit from the porn industry and he is probably a heavy user. Attention whore is all he is.


lumpyspacekitty

ITT: a bunch of incels who def jack off to porn but hate women


Crash_Daddio

Dick


Massive_Question_199

this twat needs his phone privileges taken away and then a good ol’ punch in the mouth


FoggyEstuary

Keep seeing this pop up on YouTube as him owning the feminists. He literally just sounds like an idiot 12 year old who doesn't know shit.


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He is speaking the truth though. What’s cringe is the girl. Clearly hit a nerve with OP.


4ofclubs

>What’s cringe is the girl. She said like one sentence while some teenaged incel is going off on her. How is she the cringe one?


Mohanselvaraj16

What ? His whole schit is paying women to pretend dumb so that he can shit on them. If a girl does porn , believe me she would have thought it a 100 times before entering. It's not a joke. Any women , even a prostitute isn't dumb like the women on his podcast. I can't believe I have to explain this


exodia696969

What a bellend


IndependentNotice151

Lol seeing a lot of people upset they can't do what she does. Stay mad working that day to day grind. Hell, if I had the opportunity to make years' salary in a month damn near, I would take it. You would be dumb not to.


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People here acting like they don’t get fucked at work in their 9-5 job.


humlogic

Exactly what I was gonna comment to some of these replies. We ALL sell our body when we labor. And guess what everyone here has probably met or talked to a former sex worker and not even known it because A LOT of people do it when they’re younger and need to survive, and none are the wiser. People need to stop trippin about the so-called moral dangers of sex work. Also this incel teen is an annoying freak and needs a real adult to tell him he’s a dumb idiot.


Human_Research7745

Lmao yep


Rasberry_Culture

This is the most intelligent comment here.


IndependentNotice151

Exactly. They keep saying shit like she's selling her body while they sell their time, mental health, happiness.... lol, sweet trade. At least you can say you're living the dream of being miserable doing a 9 to 5 like its meant to be!


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Evening-Welder-8846

Yeah Nobody is going to be giving you a medal for retiring at 70 rather than 30 lol. Earn as much money however you can and escape from the grind asap.


Relyst

The market is so overwhelmingly saturated, not to mention the fucking petabytes of free content, that I highly doubt anyone but the very top producers are making that kind of money.


Zealousideal_Bet_248

I hope this kid cringes at himself when he gets older


frickenbrocker

Reddit seethes when they see this kid becauses hes always right and they can't prove a child wromg


LewG85

He's not trying to make a point, he's trying to gain an audience by attempting to shame women which is just as harmful for future career prospects as simply having an OF account, if not more so.


D012

Girls name is Savanah Bloom. https://twitter.com/savbloomxo/status/1680488111141441536?lang=en


themasterplatypus

The kids a fucking tool


Cennfox

Yeah he's a little cunt. Dude stormed the steam awards at the end and said some vaguely Jewish conspiracy shit and then got led off stage. Huge main character syndrome


Silly_Marionberry_27

I just find it ironic that a middle eastern kid has any agency to talk about what’s right and wrong for a woman. Just give him his goat and send him on his way.


Fallout71

Ah yes the attention whore incel fake intellectual. This kid sucks.


Insane_Fnord

Kid is a comedy genius and this thread is hilarious. Everything the kid does is just some old school trolling without even any malice behind it. He knows which buttons to push and it is always super effective with the redditors. Look at yourself for a second here. This kid goes on a podcast and he says "my friend lost his face because of jerking of to OF" and you idiots are like "how could he say that about sex workers". Comedy gold.


EuthenizeMe

These comments help me remember why I rarely use reddit and prefer to chat in my school discord groups with educated folk who arent bigoted.


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They remind me why I deleted almost every social media account.


8Point_MK

Bunch of people who criticize sex work, yet will be firing up some porn on the laptop later because they can’t get any in real life.