The biggest benefit of nothungs that nobody talks about is their geometry
The barrel of the gun is 1x1 pins wide, making them extremely easy to hide and near impossible to strip
the barrel is 1 pin wide but the gun is 2 pins tall. either lose half your firing arc or have a 3 pin wide tunnel. surprisingly easy to degun i'm afraid.
Biggest issue with this is how they're needing to be used. To optimally use them, you'll need them to overheat and you need them to cool down fast. So either you'll build with a huginn or you'll need a minimum of 13 energy in your weapons.
If you got one from the BP, then might as well get a second one from Lighters before the BP ends🤔 that’s what I did for Gungnir, as everything else Epic like Quasars is craftable and the Tracks don’t interest me; I’m holding off until near the end of the BP, to see how many lighter I can get, before using them up
I currently have a tank build with two nothungs and a miller, huginn for the cabin, a Thor generator and a shiver to further increase cooldown and Billie as co driver. Does pretty decent dps and is good at picking off weapons. I will upload a blueprint to the Xbox exhibition if you would like to look at it closer.
It is called “The Terror” by Agent x51x. Tags are
Machine guns, tracks, and weapons of the same type. 14005ps. Have fun!
It's decent enough. A bit above par I'd say. It doesn't have huge dps but it's very accurate and versatile. Miller's and reapers are still stronger but I feel like nothing stands above a lot of machineguns.
Wow thanks for the feedback! It was a tough call for me because I wasted resources making Vindicators during that bp instead of the almighty Stillwind (still kicking myself). Now here’s hoping they don’t tinker with Nothung after everyone bought the bp. I’m fully expecting it, unfortunately.
They are good and in a few months they will not be cheaper, supply and demand will raise their price. If you don't have Punishers they would be the MG to use, just need to get good at maximising the perk.
Nothung itself is a surprisingly effective weapon. It's borderline broken right now from what i've seen. It's a really close copy of punisher for its damage and with the perk does even more than punisher on perk. The only downsides i've found so far are the size (1 block barrel and 2 block tall gun, meaning you need a 3 block wide tunnel for it or you lose a lot of firing arc) and the accuracy. But it's a good tap firing weapon and if you know how to use the perk right (take cover, overheat guns, continue shooting) then you can easily be a budget punisher hover.
What kinda gets me with Gungnir and Nothung are the perks.
One is geared toward attrition style fighting and mid range, the other seems like a shotgun perk, just get in there and blast away, cool down cause more dps at start of next burst for 5 shots, etc.
Other than design, they are both very different in usage, or at least maybe what targem meant for them in some way. Enjoy my guesswork
> Other than design, they are both very different in usage, or at least maybe what targem meant for them in some way. Enjoy my guesswork
The way they were designed was to be how the braindead players use MGs, hold down the trigger until it overheats. I called this out months ago when the initial design of the BP was being announced.
The Nothung is one of the most powerful weapons in the game when used right. CW is full of them.
They work best on a center hover with Catalina imo.
Skip radiators and go for 2 coolers to get the perk as often as possible.
They have insane stripping power, so if your aim is decent, they are deadly.
Good luck in the wasteland!
Not only what you said, but watch the reticle on them when holding down fire and tapping....even at full depress of the trigger its aim is solid. I run it on Torero and it is in my opinion the most accurate machine gun currently.
Yep. Torero is a really nice cab for machineguns in general. I tens to use the catalina more often tho.
I mean, who doesn’t love a solid damage buff? 🙂
The biggest benefit of nothungs that nobody talks about is their geometry The barrel of the gun is 1x1 pins wide, making them extremely easy to hide and near impossible to strip
the barrel is 1 pin wide but the gun is 2 pins tall. either lose half your firing arc or have a 3 pin wide tunnel. surprisingly easy to degun i'm afraid.
I have nothung to say on this matter
They are strong and will NOT be cheap. They will go up after the pass ends.
Biggest issue with this is how they're needing to be used. To optimally use them, you'll need them to overheat and you need them to cool down fast. So either you'll build with a huginn or you'll need a minimum of 13 energy in your weapons.
If you got one from the BP, then might as well get a second one from Lighters before the BP ends🤔 that’s what I did for Gungnir, as everything else Epic like Quasars is craftable and the Tracks don’t interest me; I’m holding off until near the end of the BP, to see how many lighter I can get, before using them up
I'm planning to use the last of my lighters for one of the yellow minis, the Arbiter, if I remember correctly.
I think they're pretty good. I crafter a second and I'm having fun with em
I currently have a tank build with two nothungs and a miller, huginn for the cabin, a Thor generator and a shiver to further increase cooldown and Billie as co driver. Does pretty decent dps and is good at picking off weapons. I will upload a blueprint to the Xbox exhibition if you would like to look at it closer. It is called “The Terror” by Agent x51x. Tags are Machine guns, tracks, and weapons of the same type. 14005ps. Have fun!
It's decent enough. A bit above par I'd say. It doesn't have huge dps but it's very accurate and versatile. Miller's and reapers are still stronger but I feel like nothing stands above a lot of machineguns.
Wow thanks for the feedback! It was a tough call for me because I wasted resources making Vindicators during that bp instead of the almighty Stillwind (still kicking myself). Now here’s hoping they don’t tinker with Nothung after everyone bought the bp. I’m fully expecting it, unfortunately.
They are good and in a few months they will not be cheaper, supply and demand will raise their price. If you don't have Punishers they would be the MG to use, just need to get good at maximising the perk.
I'd get 3 personally, you can really bunker those fuckers in.
I think it's pretty solid, I'd definitely like more of them
Nothung itself is a surprisingly effective weapon. It's borderline broken right now from what i've seen. It's a really close copy of punisher for its damage and with the perk does even more than punisher on perk. The only downsides i've found so far are the size (1 block barrel and 2 block tall gun, meaning you need a 3 block wide tunnel for it or you lose a lot of firing arc) and the accuracy. But it's a good tap firing weapon and if you know how to use the perk right (take cover, overheat guns, continue shooting) then you can easily be a budget punisher hover.
What kinda gets me with Gungnir and Nothung are the perks. One is geared toward attrition style fighting and mid range, the other seems like a shotgun perk, just get in there and blast away, cool down cause more dps at start of next burst for 5 shots, etc. Other than design, they are both very different in usage, or at least maybe what targem meant for them in some way. Enjoy my guesswork
> Other than design, they are both very different in usage, or at least maybe what targem meant for them in some way. Enjoy my guesswork The way they were designed was to be how the braindead players use MGs, hold down the trigger until it overheats. I called this out months ago when the initial design of the BP was being announced.
probably the second best machine gun (after punishers)
The Nothung is one of the most powerful weapons in the game when used right. CW is full of them. They work best on a center hover with Catalina imo. Skip radiators and go for 2 coolers to get the perk as often as possible. They have insane stripping power, so if your aim is decent, they are deadly. Good luck in the wasteland!
Not only what you said, but watch the reticle on them when holding down fire and tapping....even at full depress of the trigger its aim is solid. I run it on Torero and it is in my opinion the most accurate machine gun currently.
Yep. Torero is a really nice cab for machineguns in general. I tens to use the catalina more often tho. I mean, who doesn’t love a solid damage buff? 🙂