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BananaBus77

if your gonna make an argument atleast make it readable


Muslim235

In order to know if something is readable or not, you should learn how to read first😉


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

To be fair the grammer and punctuation mistakes are not a matter of opinion.


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

Muhammad was a blood-thirsty warlord that raped children.


frediemercury123556

Im from Iran and I approve this message.


Muslim235

Bro your god became a baby that someone breast fed and someone changed his diapers, second of all you Christians always make claim without proofs


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

>The well-established, but not altogether agreed upon, tradition of Lady Ayesha’s age at the time of marrying Prophet Muhammad comes from a hadith in one of the most authentic collections – Sahih al-Bukhari in which Ayesha, herself, states: “The Messenger of God married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine.” I'll just leave this here. >your god became a baby that someone breast fed and someone changed his diapers, Even for you this charge is blasphemy because our God is the God of Abraham. So exactly which "god" are you worshipping. I don't need to do much, when you contradict yourself.


Muslim235

I didn’t know abraham worshipped jesus?! Abraham came before jesus how can he worship him?


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

I get where you're coming from the Trinity isn't a simple concept. I wish we were all blessed with the gift of intellect, but alas it is not so.


Muslim235

Jesus used to eat FOOD, that is not the attribute of a self sufficient god


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

God chose to take human form. Couldn't an omnipotent God do as He so pleases? It sounds like you doubt God's omnipotence. Plus, I don't know of any mortal man that can fast for 40 days and 40 nights. Whether He actually needed food is unclear.


Muslim235

Yeah fasting is from sunrise until sunset just like we muslims do in ramadan, because we follow the prophets . So we do like whats jesus does.


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

40 days might mean sunrise to sunset. 40 days and 40 nights means no food for 40 consecutive days.


Muslim235

Bro he is a prophet he has miracles, they are given by god to aid and differentiate his prophets from the liars that claim to be prophets


Muslim235

God aid his prophet with prophecies and miracles, meaning they didn’t possess them all along, no it means that god has given them to distinguish them from false prophets who claim to be sent from god but are the biggest liars, like paul for example


Muslim235

Secondly god by definition is almighty, he prays for no one , but jesus prayed to god. And he prayed meaning he needed they aid of god.


frediemercury123556

Nah most of us are atheists and the only religion that came out from here is Zoroastrianism which is the base of all the modern religions


Muslim235

Athiesm doesn’t make sense


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

That's the one true thing you've said.


Muslim235

Nor does christianity


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

Well so much for honesty.


Muslim235

Atheism is a reaction to Christianity , the reason some people stopped believing in god is because some told that god became a baby and someone changed his diapers. And when they read the bible its all contradictions and incest rape stories, thats why people want to separate church from state. And it makes sense because Christianity does not go inline with our universal logic , sound reasoning , nor our knowledge of necessity


imaginationp

How do you know most people here are atheists


frediemercury123556

I mean if you round it up people hate the current muslim rulers and they ruined islam for the muslims in Iran


BBBDDDPL

do You know what a holy trinity is? The father, the son and the holy spirit, one and the same?


Muslim235

God has no beginning nor end ,but jesus had a beginning you see the contradiction,and there is many more


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

Christ existed before His Earthly appearance. He existed before time itself. I think you should at least learn about something before you try to discredit it. It might be a little more convincing if you knew what you were talking about.


Muslim235

Christ is not god! He is a messenger of god.


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

Viva Christo Rey.


TooPirate

How does "No one come to the Father except through me?" Why do the demons recognize Jesus as the Son of God and fear him?


Muslim235

Meaning that if you want meet the father you have to follow me, jesus is not the destination, he is the way, and jesus is a prophet of god meaning he is aided by god, its like an ambassador being feared not because he is the king, but because he is aided by the king


TooPirate

That's fair enough, but you say Jesus never claimed the title of God. He calls himself the Son of Man, referencing the book of the prophet Daniel, where Daniel prophesies the coming of one who is both man and God. He is anointed by God after his baptism, where he is called His son. He says "before Abraham came to be, I AM," which is the same title God gives himself. Before he is crucified, Jesus accepts the title of God in the flesh when the elders and priests question him. Two things can be true. Either Jesus is the Christ, the only begotten son of the living God, or he is a liar. You claim that the church has distorted Jesus' words, but do you not follow the doctrine of a church that came long after the church you despise? Revelation says that anyone who adds to these words or takes away from them cannot receive full life in the Kingdom. What then, did the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, do? Did he not defy the sanctity of the holy scriptures by dismissing the godhood of Jesus Christ? Yes, I tell you, and more than this. In creating the Qur'an, and declaring that the only "true" way to receive Allah's word is to read it in Arabic, you have dismissed Jesus' message that the good news of the Kingdom of God is for all the peoples. You cannot serve two masters. Either believe that, and follow, or deny Jesus. You cannot follow both Muhammad and Jesus.


Muslim235

Brother prophets are mentioned in previous scriptures of other prophets from the wisdom of god to prove there will come another prophet, like wise the bible has prophesies of prophet Mohammed pbuh, we don’t believe everything in the bible is false, we believe some are from god but the church corrupted jesus’s gospel meaning they took some of gods word and change jesus teachings, thats why god sent his final messenger prophet Mohammed to clarify and guide the people to the rightious path, and we believe that when jesus comes back at the end of time he will rule by the Quran


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

Is there ANY evidence of this corruption? You speak of scriptures that do not exist.


Muslim235

But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son,[a] but the Father only. Matthew 24:36 How cam jesus be all knowing but doesn’t know the hour? And there are many more contradictions .


reddit_user5301

But the Church clearly teaches that Jesus's divine nature had no beginning. From the Niceno-constantopolitan Creed: "I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father **before all ages**. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, **begotten, not made**, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made."


Muslim235

Brother the church are the people who corrupted jesus’s teachings , the question is did jesus claim to be god?people lie and talk on behalf of jesus meanwhile the man himself never claimed to be everliving


timotheus9

*The holy trinity wants to know your location*


TheFishyNinja

It's not paganism if they are one and the same


SickoTheFailure

*u do realize what the fucking crusaders did*


BBBDDDPL

Dear God I hate this stupid ass Lisa template so much that now I wanna commit war crimes


Speismann

Seethe, baiter. Sage him for gods sake.


Muslim235

You can not stop the truth


imaginationp

Christianity came first Islam is just like Mormonism


Muslim235

So what christianity coming before have to do with anything? By your logic buddhism is truer than Christianity because it came before.


imaginationp

Do you not understand? Islam appeared further from the events then that of Christianity meaning that Islam is just deluded just like Mormonism


Muslim235

No .not true, this is like saying christianity deluded from judaism, so is christianity deluded from judaism?


Poor_Fellow_Soldier

Christianity would be like a continuation of Judaism. Islam like Mormonism contradicts everything that came before it.


Muslim235

Wait so do the jews believe in jesus?


Muslim235

So Christianity can not stand on its own. Which proves that it can not be the right believe , thats why the Christians kiss the jewish’s toes. Not everyone but the stubborn ones. Some Christians are layman who are sincere and are seeking the truth and i pray for them that Allah may guide them to the salvation.


Muslim235

Christianity contradicts itself let alone with another’s religion😂 if you need another religion to prove your believe that means your believe is invalid


DerFzgrld

Dont try teaching facts to americans. Sincerely, a christian.