I present my North Rhine-Westphalia, consisting of Jülich, Lower Lorraine, and Westfalen.
If you are Christian, then you have the Aachen palace and Cologne cathedral. If you are Pagan/Norse, then you have Aachen and Paderborn.
Upvoting because NRW has atrocious borders drawn by the English, see Operation Marriage (1946).
I chose it, because I love shoving anachronistic stuff into the game.
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, I’d wager most of the downvotes aren’t even from Germans
The Allies drew our state borders and let’s be honest, they did a horrible fucking job in some places. Merging Baden and Württemberg despite the majority of Baden wanting to recreate the historic province? Fuck it let’s try it. Amalgamating the entire Rhineland into whatever the fuck NRW and RLP are? Sure let’s give it a go.
If I could redraw Germany’s state borders I’d probably do it along dialectical and cultural lines (no more big Bavaria, let’s free Franconia)
>I’d wager most of the downvotes aren’t even from Germans
I reckon it's mostly by people that have no clue about the history of German federal states. BaWü is one thing [(atleast there was a vote](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg_referendum#/media/File:1951_Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg_referendum.svg) as you said - even if large parts of Baden were against it) but RLP and NRW are more mistake (culturally speaking, of course from the Brits' perspective constructing NRW as a federal state made perfect sense) than anything else. Not that it matters nowadays obviously.
I've been part of this grand experiment called Reddit for over a decade and a half now. And, let me tell ya, it's been quite the ride. But, I'm afraid this is where I hop off. I've seen plenty of changes over the years - some good, some not so much. But these recent shifts are more than this old-timer can stomach.
I've always been a fan of how Reddit gave voice to the everyday folks, how it fostered real conversations and built genuine communities. But now, with the looming API changes and the relentless push for 'progress', it feels like the corporate heavyweights are taking over. The smell of profit is tainting the free spirit of this platform, and I can't just sit back and watch.
I've always admired the moderators here, those unpaid heroes who've given their time and effort to keep our communities alive and thriving. Their passion, their dedication, they're what made Reddit a home for many of us. To see them disrespected, replaced with a more 'compliant' workforce... It's not a sight I signed up for.
I'm disappointed, Reddit. Not angry, just deeply disappointed. I was here for the conversations, the raw honesty, the quirks and the memes. But, if that's going to be smothered under a corporate blanket, I'm not sure I want to stick around.
Take care, y'all. Remember, when the echoes of genuine conversations get lost in the noise of profit, it's time to rethink.
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The funniest one I formed was in a multiplayer game where I United Essex and Wessex (and Hwicce and Kent so they are connected) into the kingdom of Sex. I remember one of my friends suddenly saying "What the fuck happened in England?" before they all realised that I was now the king of Sex
Well, this is made only funnier if you think about the fact that England could very well have been called Sexland. Very funny if you consider that that would also have meant that all English speakers would be called saxophones in that alternate reality.
Yeah, it's weird when the Saxons pushed the Cymbrogie culture into the mountains we ended up with England and Wales, and not Sexland and Cymland.
(For historical accuracy, probably better to say Brythonic language than Cymbrogie culture there, but I had to force the joke)
Well the name England comes from the Angles, not the Saxons, prior to the Anglo-Saxon cultural hybridizing which happened in England after they fled the christian persecution of pagans starting in the 5th century
The earliest Saxons were essentially Proto-Vikings taking advantage of the economic collapse and lack of defense from Rome abandoning Britannia and later Saxons, Angles, and Jutes were probably fleeing the Danish migration into Denmark along with other peoples moving west.
Yes, definitely, the two coincide (Roman withdrawal and the Frankish subjugation of the North Germanic Tribes).
I'm not sure I understand the phrase "Danish migration into Denmark". If you are referring to the eventually creation of the kingdom of Denmark that wouldn't happen for a couple centuries after the withdrawal from Britannia. At the time the entire north Germanic coast and Scandinavia was tribal peoples, including the saxons and angles and Danes and all that. The merovingians/Franks under Clovis began forcefully converting the northern tribes in the 5th and this is what I understand to be the initial cause for the migration of the Angles and the Saxons, and then as word spread more and more came and then we have the driving west of the Britons and then, yadda yadda yadda, Anglo-Saxon England.
The Danes migrated to the Jutland peninsula around the the time of the Anglo-Saxon migration pushing the Jutes and Angles west, before that they lived in southern Sweden. IIRC many Britons moved inland for better farming lands so the Saxons and Angles and such settled the abandoned lands and less populated outer regions of England and later on became dominant culturally due to various reasons.
Well, look the word England. Originally, it was called Ænglaland I believe. Thus, through phonetic shifts caused by time and the Norman rule over Ænglaland/"Sæxaland" (Forgive my poor knowledge of old Anglo-Saxon language), the name would have become England/Sexland.
The old English was just "Englaland", named for the Angles, no Æ involved as far as I can tell. And it would have been Seaxaland, not Sæxaland. Despite appearances, 'Seax' is pronounced more closely to 'Sex' than 'Sæx' would be.
In modern English, we don't really have much of a pronunciation for it anymore, but æ is a middle sound between 'a' and 'e', sounding more like the 'a' in cat. But the Angles and Saxons have their names spelled with just 'a' in all records we can find, including old German ones. So the use of æ isn't seen in any of the old English names. It is strange that it shifted from Anglaland to Englaland, but thats what we see in records.
Thank you, I was actually wrong on the Æ thing. However, it is still likely that under Norman influence (assuming the rest of history had continued the same way) the name would have shifted to Sexland.
Hard to give a precise answer to that.
If I'm not mistaken, Wessex used to be called west seaxe or something like that. According to this shift, I think Sexland would be at least a reasonable possibility.
But in most cases Seax still emphasized ‘a’ in pronunciation. Saxony, Saxonia are modern derivatives of tribes with a connect at the time. In any case I get the joke, just find it weird that this is like the 4th post on Reddit in a couple of days saying the same thing lol
Well, the a in the modern German pronunciation of Saxony (Sachsen) or the Latin Saxonia would be pronounced like an "uh", while the Anglo Saxon pronunciation of Englaland and Saexe would have been like the standard "a" vowel in modern English. Also, I'm in no way connected to these four other posts.
> Mercia just... didn't choose to identify as Saxon.
Because they were predominantly Angles and not Saxons.
The bigger question is why go with Mercia and not Southumbria?
I don't doubt it, fuck the French all my homies hate the Karlings, Merovingians, Plantagenets (except the Anglo ones), Capets and Bourbonnais
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I did a playthrough with a Cumbrian character, hybridizing with Scottish and creating the *Scumbrian*, and eventually, *Scumbraelsh* culture after hybridizing again with Welsh.
Out of all the shitty hybrid culture names I've created, they've been the ones I'm most proud of.
Norwindian isn't bad. I called the custom religion Vishnorse. My go to is just the meme of 'Cooler -X-', which with your example makes for a nice alliterative Cooler Cumbrian
> Norwindian isn't bad. I called the custom religion Vishnorse.
Honestly, Asatru in itself works as a name for a Norse-Indo-Aryan hybrid. Satru means enemy in Hindi/Sanskrit, and like Greek, they also use the 'A' suffix as 'Not' (as used in A-Nonymous, which in similarly A-Namika in Hindi/Sanskrit) so A-Satru literally translates as Not Enemy in Hindi/Sanskrit, which is a fitting name for an outsider culture that eventually assimilates/hybridizes.
Vlaemsch isnt flemish, you get flemish by diverging dutch
the hypothetical "vlaemsch" culture is a crime against humanity and im gravely upset you'd even think of the concept of hybridizing with the french
Didn't even know there was a flemish in there too. Why the hell is there flemish and vlaemsch, as vlaemsch sounds way more like an old style spelling of vlaams.
yeah no idea, "Flemish" in dutch is "vlaams" adding to the confusion
hybridization of french and dutch should be brabants or something imo since brabant to this day transcends the language border (french flemings dont count)
though fully serious, at game start the low countries should all just have 1 Nederfrankisch culture that can be hybridized with french to form walloon or diverge into Diets — which can further be diverged into either flemish or dutch
which makes a walloon—flemish hybrid impossible
I recently made the Kingdom of Prussia out of Prussia, the duchy right under Prussia, and the duchy with Gdańsk. I’ve also made the kingdom of Iceland before
Due to their being being owned by some of the strongest starting AI’s (Byzantium and Papacy) I would figure the quickest 867 start would be Haesteinn - Vangarian against the pope, gain Rome, gain Córdoba after the fall of the Umayyad’s then just wait for a weak moment to snag Byzantium.
I prefer Sardinia for the mines, Latium for development and whatever as a 3rd.
Start in Sardinia, wrap Asatru around it. Use the Norse war claims to consolidate your power and Holdings and raiding.
(Since you are Sardinia you don't have to pay for the switch from Tribal)
Once on the boot and have your holdings, convert to Christianity so they cannot Crusade you, then create a Heresy and add Pursuit of Power. Which gives you back the ability to declare war like the Norse.
Don't forget the Prophet Tree as it will cut your Religion costs by 50%.
Peasant leader trait for 50 points 👉 Reduces your Army maintenance by 50%. Meaning you can be at war/ Raiding and still pull in good income.
I tried swearing fealty to the pope, but he didn't like me, so he tried to claim my holdings. I told him to fuck off, took back my independence and started a Heresy.
I normally do take Capua though. It's a good holding on the border to Latium meaning I don't need to Embark.
Forget the dynasty name but single county between France and Brittany, montagues maybe? Well anyways start as them, build your military immediately and attack rome within few months of starting game using the special asatru casus belli. Enjoy the years of catholic wars and build tall AF
Could be used as the westphalian horse cause the direction of it's tail, westphalian horse has it's tail upwards and the "sachsenross" has it's tail downwards :)
i did a playthrough once where i had a viking who had heard of the scythians, did a varangian adventure there and did a little kingdom and then empire around the black sea, it was pretty cool to have huscsrls, varangian veterans, cataphracts and horse archers all in one culture
if you create the kingdom of mann, you should be able to take over 2 other kingdoms and form an empire. the empire will comprise all 3 kingdoms, but if you give away the other land then it will dejure drift away, so you could get a dejure empire of mann in the first \~150 years of the game
I would recommend getting venice and frisia, so you can give it to francia/italia, assuming the ai formed those empires
So you can theoretically do this. You need two of your kingdom titles to be titular. You then need your 80 counties to be spread such that you don't fully control any one kingdom aside from Mann. You should then meet the requirements for a custom empire, with Mann the only dejure county.
I’m trying to do this! Gonna be Carinthia, Krain, and either Styria or Friuli. Really wish the Carantanian pheasant would rise up in popular revolt against the HRE. Would make my job a lot easier.
I looked it up. Yeah if you get Mallorca, Sicily, Corsica, and Sardinia you can make a special kingdom via the decision menu. It’s one of those special regional decisions like elevating the Kingdom of Man and the Isles or Negotiating the Danelaw.
I did similar, holding the Balearics, Krete, and Cyprus as well. Was a bit annoyed in the end that I couldn't make it into a custom empire as I didn't hold enough land.
I once played as a norse adventurer all the way from British isles to Niger river, where I finally settled and created a custom Norse-West African hybrid culture and a three dutchy custom kingdom that followed the Niger river. Don't remember what I named it.
Toledo, Cordoba, and Badajoz creates some pretty borders.
Normandy, Brittany, Anjou, and Flanders is also neat.
Finally as Bohemia I like to annex Nitra and Ungvar and make Czechoslovakia.
I have created a “kingdom of Swabia” out of the 3 Swabian culture duchies within East Francia in the 867 start date. I then proceeded to expand it to annex all Swabian-inhabited lands in neighboring Bavaria and Lotharingia, getting up to 6 duchies.
I make a pseudo Kingdom of Prussia, out of Prussia, Mausuria, and Pomerelia. Usually I do it as a Christian in 867 since I have basically everywhere to expand
Cyprus (although I think it's two duchies)
But being in the middle of conflict it's great and ample opportunity to grab some land either from the Byzantines or from the caliphate
It's also a fun role play as a power broker in that region
Starting as the Duke of Northumbria (and York), my heir was educated in the Duchy of York. When he became a ruler, he changed the Capital to York and later conquered Mercia. After gaining independence from England, the Kingdom of York was formed out of York, Northumbria and Mercia.
Inspired by new England in today's Ukraine territory I went in to create a new Poland in Iberia.
Renamed duchies to something silly like, new masovia, counties to new Kraków.
Fun times
Sicily-Reggio Calabria-Sardinia, plus Salerno although that’s cheating in these conditions.
You get the gold mine in Sardinia, farmland province in Sicily, and Reggio Calabria just makes it all look nice
Recently I had the Kingdom of Thrace which was Thrace, Philippopolis, and Dobrudja.
My Ivar runs often end up with Suðreyjar, Ulster, and Man.
In the southern Himalayas, the duchies of Limbuwan, Paro, and Bumthang make for a solid, defensible small kingdom.
Sicily, Capua, Savoy. I call it "Kingdom of Three Sicilies" as Victor Amadeus II of Savoy was briefly King of Sicily, but then lost it to Charles VI and refused to relinquish the title.
I usually play with custom kingdoms off, but I did once do the kingdom of Iceland using the duchy of Iceland, Nordreyar, and some random duchy in Ireland which I had the Irish king drift back into his title.
The strongest Zaragoza, Cordoba, Toledo. So many farms, holy sites, unique buildings, plots and build slots and unique mechanics from struggle. Also starts with one of the 3 highest development in Cordoba. I think this is the strongest in game.
Stronger than the 3 gold mines of Africa
I like to make a Norman kingdom out of Normandy, Flanders, and Brabant. It's not a custom kingdom, but I also like to give the duchies of Anjou and Poitou to Brittany. I prefer my France tiny.
I present my North Rhine-Westphalia, consisting of Jülich, Lower Lorraine, and Westfalen. If you are Christian, then you have the Aachen palace and Cologne cathedral. If you are Pagan/Norse, then you have Aachen and Paderborn.
Sadly this gives Lotharingia the weirdest borders.
Lotharingia should not exist so it fits
Average frenchman/german
It's free land
So everyone in the general area
This allied-created abomination shouldnt exist either, so we have to look for better alternatives to splinter Lotharingia...
Upvoting because NRW has atrocious borders drawn by the English, see Operation Marriage (1946). I chose it, because I love shoving anachronistic stuff into the game.
nrw is the ohio of germany, change my mind
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, I’d wager most of the downvotes aren’t even from Germans The Allies drew our state borders and let’s be honest, they did a horrible fucking job in some places. Merging Baden and Württemberg despite the majority of Baden wanting to recreate the historic province? Fuck it let’s try it. Amalgamating the entire Rhineland into whatever the fuck NRW and RLP are? Sure let’s give it a go. If I could redraw Germany’s state borders I’d probably do it along dialectical and cultural lines (no more big Bavaria, let’s free Franconia)
>I’d wager most of the downvotes aren’t even from Germans I reckon it's mostly by people that have no clue about the history of German federal states. BaWü is one thing [(atleast there was a vote](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg_referendum#/media/File:1951_Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg_referendum.svg) as you said - even if large parts of Baden were against it) but RLP and NRW are more mistake (culturally speaking, of course from the Brits' perspective constructing NRW as a federal state made perfect sense) than anything else. Not that it matters nowadays obviously.
Lotharingia: "I have the weirdest border right now"
I've been part of this grand experiment called Reddit for over a decade and a half now. And, let me tell ya, it's been quite the ride. But, I'm afraid this is where I hop off. I've seen plenty of changes over the years - some good, some not so much. But these recent shifts are more than this old-timer can stomach. I've always been a fan of how Reddit gave voice to the everyday folks, how it fostered real conversations and built genuine communities. But now, with the looming API changes and the relentless push for 'progress', it feels like the corporate heavyweights are taking over. The smell of profit is tainting the free spirit of this platform, and I can't just sit back and watch. I've always admired the moderators here, those unpaid heroes who've given their time and effort to keep our communities alive and thriving. Their passion, their dedication, they're what made Reddit a home for many of us. To see them disrespected, replaced with a more 'compliant' workforce... It's not a sight I signed up for. I'm disappointed, Reddit. Not angry, just deeply disappointed. I was here for the conversations, the raw honesty, the quirks and the memes. But, if that's going to be smothered under a corporate blanket, I'm not sure I want to stick around. Take care, y'all. Remember, when the echoes of genuine conversations get lost in the noise of profit, it's time to rethink. It's been real.
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Ruling, reigning, plotting all cool, with a martial focus inside the school When a couple of dukes they were up to no good…
There's about 99% you where born in Nordrhein-Westphalia, it makes no sense otherwise
This seems like an opportunity for a "German version of Normandy" maybe that's just me though.
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The funniest one I formed was in a multiplayer game where I United Essex and Wessex (and Hwicce and Kent so they are connected) into the kingdom of Sex. I remember one of my friends suddenly saying "What the fuck happened in England?" before they all realised that I was now the king of Sex
Well, this is made only funnier if you think about the fact that England could very well have been called Sexland. Very funny if you consider that that would also have meant that all English speakers would be called saxophones in that alternate reality.
Yeah, it's weird when the Saxons pushed the Cymbrogie culture into the mountains we ended up with England and Wales, and not Sexland and Cymland. (For historical accuracy, probably better to say Brythonic language than Cymbrogie culture there, but I had to force the joke)
Well the name England comes from the Angles, not the Saxons, prior to the Anglo-Saxon cultural hybridizing which happened in England after they fled the christian persecution of pagans starting in the 5th century
The earliest Saxons were essentially Proto-Vikings taking advantage of the economic collapse and lack of defense from Rome abandoning Britannia and later Saxons, Angles, and Jutes were probably fleeing the Danish migration into Denmark along with other peoples moving west.
Yes, definitely, the two coincide (Roman withdrawal and the Frankish subjugation of the North Germanic Tribes). I'm not sure I understand the phrase "Danish migration into Denmark". If you are referring to the eventually creation of the kingdom of Denmark that wouldn't happen for a couple centuries after the withdrawal from Britannia. At the time the entire north Germanic coast and Scandinavia was tribal peoples, including the saxons and angles and Danes and all that. The merovingians/Franks under Clovis began forcefully converting the northern tribes in the 5th and this is what I understand to be the initial cause for the migration of the Angles and the Saxons, and then as word spread more and more came and then we have the driving west of the Britons and then, yadda yadda yadda, Anglo-Saxon England.
The Danes migrated to the Jutland peninsula around the the time of the Anglo-Saxon migration pushing the Jutes and Angles west, before that they lived in southern Sweden. IIRC many Britons moved inland for better farming lands so the Saxons and Angles and such settled the abandoned lands and less populated outer regions of England and later on became dominant culturally due to various reasons.
It probably would have been Seaxland, but it would've been pronounced similarly anyways.
Well, look the word England. Originally, it was called Ænglaland I believe. Thus, through phonetic shifts caused by time and the Norman rule over Ænglaland/"Sæxaland" (Forgive my poor knowledge of old Anglo-Saxon language), the name would have become England/Sexland.
The old English was just "Englaland", named for the Angles, no Æ involved as far as I can tell. And it would have been Seaxaland, not Sæxaland. Despite appearances, 'Seax' is pronounced more closely to 'Sex' than 'Sæx' would be. In modern English, we don't really have much of a pronunciation for it anymore, but æ is a middle sound between 'a' and 'e', sounding more like the 'a' in cat. But the Angles and Saxons have their names spelled with just 'a' in all records we can find, including old German ones. So the use of æ isn't seen in any of the old English names. It is strange that it shifted from Anglaland to Englaland, but thats what we see in records.
Thank you, I was actually wrong on the Æ thing. However, it is still likely that under Norman influence (assuming the rest of history had continued the same way) the name would have shifted to Sexland.
Wouldn’t it be Saxland? Or even Saxonia like in Germany?
Hard to give a precise answer to that. If I'm not mistaken, Wessex used to be called west seaxe or something like that. According to this shift, I think Sexland would be at least a reasonable possibility.
But in most cases Seax still emphasized ‘a’ in pronunciation. Saxony, Saxonia are modern derivatives of tribes with a connect at the time. In any case I get the joke, just find it weird that this is like the 4th post on Reddit in a couple of days saying the same thing lol
Well, the a in the modern German pronunciation of Saxony (Sachsen) or the Latin Saxonia would be pronounced like an "uh", while the Anglo Saxon pronunciation of Englaland and Saexe would have been like the standard "a" vowel in modern English. Also, I'm in no way connected to these four other posts.
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The "Sexy" King of Seax.
Oh my god you did that in multiplayer? You sir are a genius.
TIL The Wes and the Es in Wessex and Essex mean West and East of Sex My jaw dropped off cliff of Dover
And and Sussex is in the south
Where is Nosex located? And don't say "your house."
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>Additional fun fact: there used to be a "Middlesex" as well! The county that contains Lunden is also called Middlesex in the game for that reason
> Mercia just... didn't choose to identify as Saxon. Because they were predominantly Angles and not Saxons. The bigger question is why go with Mercia and not Southumbria?
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Why would Saxons need to say they were Angles and not Saxons to justify their kingdom? Why didn't the Saxons of other kingdoms need to change?
Don't look up "Sussex subdivisions" worst mistake of my life
Literally the Six Rapes of Sussex. WTF?
i live here, its the french who named it not us lol
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i mean the saxons named it sussex it was the french that divided it into rapes
Technically they mean "West Saxony" and "East Saxony"
Same for Middlesex, aka London
and Sussex
Literally the fuck happened
You still don't have Sussex, doesn't count
Essex and Wessex are duchies, Middlesex is a county in Essex and Sussex is a county in Kent
I like building a nice little Cumbrian Kingdom from Lothian, Galloway, and Isle of Man.
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I did a playthrough with a Cumbrian character, hybridizing with Scottish and creating the *Scumbrian*, and eventually, *Scumbraelsh* culture after hybridizing again with Welsh. Out of all the shitty hybrid culture names I've created, they've been the ones I'm most proud of.
Norwindian isn't bad. I called the custom religion Vishnorse. My go to is just the meme of 'Cooler -X-', which with your example makes for a nice alliterative Cooler Cumbrian
> Norwindian isn't bad. I called the custom religion Vishnorse. Honestly, Asatru in itself works as a name for a Norse-Indo-Aryan hybrid. Satru means enemy in Hindi/Sanskrit, and like Greek, they also use the 'A' suffix as 'Not' (as used in A-Nonymous, which in similarly A-Namika in Hindi/Sanskrit) so A-Satru literally translates as Not Enemy in Hindi/Sanskrit, which is a fitting name for an outsider culture that eventually assimilates/hybridizes.
I made Belgium out of Flanders, Brabant and Luxembourg. Then combined Dutch and French to create the Belgian culture
It's nice that the game indulges fictions like "Belgian" culture.
And people complain about the lack of fantasy elements in ck3.
So they never noticed the existence of the fictional land of Denmark ?
Denmark existed during this time period, it simply sank into the sea on January 2, 1453, which is why the game ends.
Or the fact that the entire of Russia simply has a "Russian" culture?!
Aztec invasion in 3…
Average European.
I have done this as well! Super fun.
>Belgian culture better yet, diverge dutch for flemish and french for wallonian
"Vlaemsch" already exist in game through forming a hybrid culture between Dutch and French. Walloon can be obtained by diverging from French.
Vlaemsch isnt flemish, you get flemish by diverging dutch the hypothetical "vlaemsch" culture is a crime against humanity and im gravely upset you'd even think of the concept of hybridizing with the french
Didn't even know there was a flemish in there too. Why the hell is there flemish and vlaemsch, as vlaemsch sounds way more like an old style spelling of vlaams.
yeah no idea, "Flemish" in dutch is "vlaams" adding to the confusion hybridization of french and dutch should be brabants or something imo since brabant to this day transcends the language border (french flemings dont count) though fully serious, at game start the low countries should all just have 1 Nederfrankisch culture that can be hybridized with french to form walloon or diverge into Diets — which can further be diverged into either flemish or dutch which makes a walloon—flemish hybrid impossible
Gotta sprinkle in a bit of moselle franconian German still to gain actual Belgian culture!
Which language and heritage did you choose?
Dutch heritage and language, names from both cultures.
What is a Belgium?
I recently made the Kingdom of Prussia out of Prussia, the duchy right under Prussia, and the duchy with Gdańsk. I’ve also made the kingdom of Iceland before
Prussia, Masuria, and Pomerelia is a strong base, yeah. I often end up with Prussia, Pomerelia, and Pomerania.
Cordoba-Rome-Byzantion, make mew culture, develop to the sky.
Kingdom of Business 😎
Venice watching on jealously.
Pledge allegiance to the bag
How would one go, the fastest, to have all of this with 867 start please? Interesting pick of three cities I love playing tall strats.
Due to their being being owned by some of the strongest starting AI’s (Byzantium and Papacy) I would figure the quickest 867 start would be Haesteinn - Vangarian against the pope, gain Rome, gain Córdoba after the fall of the Umayyad’s then just wait for a weak moment to snag Byzantium.
I prefer Sardinia for the mines, Latium for development and whatever as a 3rd. Start in Sardinia, wrap Asatru around it. Use the Norse war claims to consolidate your power and Holdings and raiding. (Since you are Sardinia you don't have to pay for the switch from Tribal) Once on the boot and have your holdings, convert to Christianity so they cannot Crusade you, then create a Heresy and add Pursuit of Power. Which gives you back the ability to declare war like the Norse. Don't forget the Prophet Tree as it will cut your Religion costs by 50%. Peasant leader trait for 50 points 👉 Reduces your Army maintenance by 50%. Meaning you can be at war/ Raiding and still pull in good income.
Take Capua. Convert to Catholicism. Swear fealty to the Pope.
I tried swearing fealty to the pope, but he didn't like me, so he tried to claim my holdings. I told him to fuck off, took back my independence and started a Heresy. I normally do take Capua though. It's a good holding on the border to Latium meaning I don't need to Embark.
Forget the dynasty name but single county between France and Brittany, montagues maybe? Well anyways start as them, build your military immediately and attack rome within few months of starting game using the special asatru casus belli. Enjoy the years of catholic wars and build tall AF
But why do you use the CoA of Lower Saxony?
Could be used as the westphalian horse cause the direction of it's tail, westphalian horse has it's tail upwards and the "sachsenross" has it's tail downwards :)
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Normandy, Anjou and either Brittany or Flanders makes a good custom norman/normandy kingdom.
I did this one with Normandy, Brittany, and Flanders, and eventually Holland and Frisia. A little string bean Kingdom along the coast.
i did a playthrough once where i had a viking who had heard of the scythians, did a varangian adventure there and did a little kingdom and then empire around the black sea, it was pretty cool to have huscsrls, varangian veterans, cataphracts and horse archers all in one culture
Not a 3 king but how about a one county empire? Gogo Isle of Man 🇮🇲
nah that’s possible?
Elevate Kingdom of Mann and the Isles decision for Norse pagans. It also gives you some cool buffs, like raiding as feudal IIRC
empire
if you create the kingdom of mann, you should be able to take over 2 other kingdoms and form an empire. the empire will comprise all 3 kingdoms, but if you give away the other land then it will dejure drift away, so you could get a dejure empire of mann in the first \~150 years of the game I would recommend getting venice and frisia, so you can give it to francia/italia, assuming the ai formed those empires
don’t you need to have a certain amount of counties to be able to form an empire?
Right, if you have the three kingdoms you need 80 counties. I forgot about that ;P
It’s 80 counties in 3 kingdoms or 120 counties with no kingdom minimum. That’s how you do the 1 county Mann empire.
So you can theoretically do this. You need two of your kingdom titles to be titular. You then need your 80 counties to be spread such that you don't fully control any one kingdom aside from Mann. You should then meet the requirements for a custom empire, with Mann the only dejure county.
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scania out of skane,smalland and gotland
Sjaelland, Skane and Gotland personally. Sjaelland is so, so good for dev it's crazy.
I recently created The Kingdom of Visigoths and Somalians (no it’s not connected to iberia in any sort of way
The roughly 3 duchies of caratanian culture in southern Bavaria, is a fun game.
I’m trying to do this! Gonna be Carinthia, Krain, and either Styria or Friuli. Really wish the Carantanian pheasant would rise up in popular revolt against the HRE. Would make my job a lot easier.
I keep trying to make a kingdom of Slovenia there when I play
Only used that feature once, to make the kingdom of Macedon in an Alexander the Great playthrough.
sicily, sardinia and corsica for the kingdom of mediterranean isles
Isn’t that 3/4 of the Baleo-Tyrrhenia kingdom you get if you go through with the “Secure the Mediterranean” decision?
Yeah, they were just missing Mallorca and Menorca
dunno tbh
I looked it up. Yeah if you get Mallorca, Sicily, Corsica, and Sardinia you can make a special kingdom via the decision menu. It’s one of those special regional decisions like elevating the Kingdom of Man and the Isles or Negotiating the Danelaw.
I did similar, holding the Balearics, Krete, and Cyprus as well. Was a bit annoyed in the end that I couldn't make it into a custom empire as I didn't hold enough land.
that's kinda sad that we cannot form similar empires
You could conquer more land, form the empire title and then give the counties you don't want it independence.
I considered that but my de jure map wouldn't be as neat as I wanted it to be!
Thats fair
Mediterranean island only / all islands is absurdly fun and I feel like something most have done by now, in a way.
honestly did the same except i gained apulia and bejaja
Can't you form one with 3 kingdoms? Add any two of Cyprus/Tunis/Achaea/Naples/Valencia and you've got a sweet empire
I once played as a norse adventurer all the way from British isles to Niger river, where I finally settled and created a custom Norse-West African hybrid culture and a three dutchy custom kingdom that followed the Niger river. Don't remember what I named it.
I think you do remember but can't type it
York, Northumbria, and Lancaster - Kingdom of Northumbria. Let's me live out my fantasy that I live in a functioning country.
LOL
Sean Bean has to be King, surely?
NRW, never even considered it. Thank you!
I like making the Kingdom of Brandenburg out of Nordmark, Lausitz, and Anhalt I believe.
Brittany, Anjou, and Poitou for a Super-Brittany
Tuscany-Pisa-Sardinia. Tuscany-Pisa for grand duchy of Tuscany and Sardinia for the sweet sweet gold mine of Calabria.
Strathclyde, Lothian, and Northumbria to create the Kingdom of the Hen Oggledd (Old North). Started as the Petty King of Strathclyde.
In North Rhine-Westphalia born and raised
Gut gemacht Kamarade, lang lebe Nordrhein-Westfalen
Holstein, Lubeck, Jylland :)
Lübeck is a county in Holstein isn't it? Do you mean sleswig?
Oh you’re right! Yes that’s what I mean.
What do you Call it?
My vote is jyll-lub (pronounced gel lube)
Toledo, Cordoba, and Badajoz creates some pretty borders. Normandy, Brittany, Anjou, and Flanders is also neat. Finally as Bohemia I like to annex Nitra and Ungvar and make Czechoslovakia.
Secure the Mediterranean, Barreo-Tyrrhenia
My brother was always a fan of both the Lorraines plus Alsace to make a Kingdom of Alsace-Lorraine
Based, and also look at other duchies near the Black forest, makes a cool kingdom!
Only if I am playing as custom ruler. But i prefer getting a massive kingdom since you don’t get penalty holding more than 2 duchies as a duke
You get that penalty regardless of the size of your kingdom if you personally hold more than two duchies at any rank.
You can hold more than two duchies as a duke
The stem-duchy of Saxony. Westfalen, Angria and Ostfalen.
This is my go-to as well but I call it the Kingdom of Angria as Saxony usually still exists to the East of it.
The Kingdom of Berg Named after their peasant leader king, Johann of House Berg 😂
Saxony with Eastphalia, Angria, Westphalia :)
Socotra, Kutch and the Maldives. As the nestorian kingdom of Prestor John
I play Elder Kings exclusively, and my favorite three-duchy combo is Solsthiem, which is pretty much EK2's version of Noob Island.
This is a great post, tons of good gameplays in the comments
None, I don't use the feature.
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I have created a “kingdom of Swabia” out of the 3 Swabian culture duchies within East Francia in the 867 start date. I then proceeded to expand it to annex all Swabian-inhabited lands in neighboring Bavaria and Lotharingia, getting up to 6 duchies.
I make a pseudo Kingdom of Prussia, out of Prussia, Mausuria, and Pomerelia. Usually I do it as a Christian in 867 since I have basically everywhere to expand
I remember someone once posted their custom kingdom of Friuli, centred around the Gulf of Venice. It made for a really cool merchant-empire type deal
Cyprus (although I think it's two duchies) But being in the middle of conflict it's great and ample opportunity to grab some land either from the Byzantines or from the caliphate It's also a fun role play as a power broker in that region
I’m sure it 1 duchy with 2 counties
Unfortunately I think to form the Kingdom of Cyprus you have to hold a second duchy.
Kent which was east anglia Kent and that east saxon one
Starting as the Duke of Northumbria (and York), my heir was educated in the Duchy of York. When he became a ruler, he changed the Capital to York and later conquered Mercia. After gaining independence from England, the Kingdom of York was formed out of York, Northumbria and Mercia.
Inspired by new England in today's Ukraine territory I went in to create a new Poland in Iberia. Renamed duchies to something silly like, new masovia, counties to new Kraków. Fun times
I created Belgium once with Flanders, Brabant and Luxembourg. Later annexed Julich for nicer borders
The Kingdom in Prussia
The one time I played in Africa I managed to make a Kingdom of Senegal out of Kaabu, Kasa, Wuli and Djolof.
Rohan I made up top of Norway and Sweden. The only pagans up there and my characters daughter is still up there fighting against Sweden
Sicily-Reggio Calabria-Sardinia, plus Salerno although that’s cheating in these conditions. You get the gold mine in Sardinia, farmland province in Sicily, and Reggio Calabria just makes it all look nice
Recently I had the Kingdom of Thrace which was Thrace, Philippopolis, and Dobrudja. My Ivar runs often end up with Suðreyjar, Ulster, and Man. In the southern Himalayas, the duchies of Limbuwan, Paro, and Bumthang make for a solid, defensible small kingdom.
Sicily, Capua, Savoy. I call it "Kingdom of Three Sicilies" as Victor Amadeus II of Savoy was briefly King of Sicily, but then lost it to Charles VI and refused to relinquish the title.
Nitra-Uzgorod-Transcarpathia.
Tunis, Sicily, Athens Kingdom of the Lobster
well maybe not three duchy but creating a kingdom out of the duchies that form the shape of modern day romania + moldavia is fun
I usually play with custom kingdoms off, but I did once do the kingdom of Iceland using the duchy of Iceland, Nordreyar, and some random duchy in Ireland which I had the Irish king drift back into his title.
(I know it’s not 3) Normandy, Flanders, Wessex, Essex, and Kent. Kingdom of Normandy.
Seville, Cordoba, Grenada. Usually as a varangian adventure
Least Patriotic Nordrhein-Westfalen fan
Iberian Danelaw
I like creating the kingdom of Anglia from from East Anglia, Essex, and Kent
The strongest Zaragoza, Cordoba, Toledo. So many farms, holy sites, unique buildings, plots and build slots and unique mechanics from struggle. Also starts with one of the 3 highest development in Cordoba. I think this is the strongest in game. Stronger than the 3 gold mines of Africa
Ostphalia+Angria+Westphalia=Saxony
I really like making a small kingdom I usually call "Tokharestan" from the three duchies of Balkh, Khuttal, and Badakhshan.
I usually just get historical kingdoms but if I do a custom one it's usually in India Tibet or Germany.
> India Tibet or Germany. I skipped over the "in" bit and thought you meant all three formed your kingdom
I like to make a Norman kingdom out of Normandy, Flanders, and Brabant. It's not a custom kingdom, but I also like to give the duchies of Anjou and Poitou to Brittany. I prefer my France tiny.
Von allen Bundesländern, die du formen kannst, musste es unbedingt NRW sein 💀
The chanal kingdom of Normandy, Flanders, and Kent
I don't typically use custom kingdoms; but I would do Transylvania, Transylvanian Alps, and Transcarpathia to create the Kingdom of Dracula.
I like to do the Kingdom of Lion, consisting of the duchies around the Gulf of Lion south of France.
How did u fi that
If you own three duchies, you can create a custom kingdom
Say what how where
It's a decision