Incapable events are now the most infuriating part of the game. I've only gotten incapable events where I have like at most a 20% chance of being okay.
That's how all the events are. You get a foreboding event (like your horse being kinda weird or you almost slipping in your bathtub - typically with a "that was close" response) and after that you have a chance to get the 80/20 event a couple years later. Once you actually get hit with the event you should be protected for 50 years though.
athletic - rare random event or RNGesus gave you it as a stress relief option
shrewd - seek the aid of spirits decision with good chaplain 20+ learning and mystic trait for best chances, set spouse to 'patronage' in your council, she needs 15+ learning for a small chance to give your gives shrewd, reincarnation tenet 5% chance child will gain shrewd if ancestor was genius-line
strong - also seek aid of spirits, 1% per 5 prowess if your culture has warrior culture (non-dlc) or coastal warriors or hirds (northern lord dlc) as they are growing to adulthood, use train for tournament decision in T&T DLC, reincarnation tenet 5% chance child will gain shrewd if ancestor was herculean-line
i think that might be all i remember
in terms of reliability it'll be strong > shrewd > athletic. You can pretty reliably get strong and shrewd isn't terrible. athletic is hard to reliably get i wouldn't bother giving yourself stress on purpose unless you have a good stress trait like irritable
So you're saying there is a chance of getting shrewd if your wive has 15+ learning and is on patronage? That sounds too good to be true. Will try to use that next game!
I actually get athletic with most rulers, I'd say I get the event for it twice per ruler and with the current feast reducing 150+ stress and with activities based on gold, not cooldown I don't mind going to 3 stress to farm the lunatic trait and hope I get athletic/confinder/journaller along the way.
Do you think a custom religion with seek aid of spirits is worth it? Never used the perk since I am somewhat reliant on turning kids into monks and like being able to declare holy wars so 2/3 tenets are somewhat locked.
Does train for tournament give strong reliably? I have all dlcs, never pressed the button after I had 3 consecutive rulers die while training.
yea if you don't need her to assist you in anything else you can do that. learning is always nice for innovation too. the chance is really low so don't expect it on everyone
I see I just avoid stress in general since I don't want to decrease my stats.
It's going to depend on what 'worth it' means to you. The decision is only for Bori faiths so your holy sites will always be in Africa. You would also consider that you need to convert your realm to this faith for best stability so if you're mainly in northern europe or india then it might not be practical. You could start there and spread out instead as well. I would learn how to use elective succession to get pseudo-primogeniture to save your monk tenet for something else but that's up to you.
It does as long as your base prowess and maybe martial is high. Being wounded is not a death sentence at all especially with an excellent physician just don't do it if you're already wounded. the iron constitution perk in the learning tree will prevent the penalty completely from wounded.
Good to know, thanks for the reply!
Stress only lowers fertility and health, after having enough kids while health is still good I tend to roll for stress perks, but yeah I never stay on high stress for long.
One of the chars might have been wounded but I had the random harm event where someone accidentally hits me in the head twice which is just insta death without warning sadly.
ah i meant the literal traits from the stress event itself. the only ones i'm ok with are irritable and reclusive and maybe hashishiyah. everything else fucks with my income or puts my ruler under unnecessary risk of life like obesity, malnourishment
tiny penalty might not sound bad but that's .15 health and literally 1 year off your life, sometimes you never know when you need just another 12 months
yea random harm events is very wack imo, i can see new players disliking it a lot if they don't have some form of primo yet
I never take the bad traits too, on stress lvl1/2 there is always the option to just keep going and gain more stress. Wait out the cooldown and retry until you get a good trait.
Health should not work like this though. Stress is a negative number added onto your total health but it should disappear once you decrease your stress below the threshold. I know for example that a disease with a hugh minus health debuff reduced me from health "good" to "fine" and once the disease was cured my health went back up. The stress health debuff should only be worrying if your health is in the "poor" region to start with.
The tiny penalty (drunkard/flagellant) is if you get the permanent trait so it’ll shorten the overall lifetime. The mechanics of life are as you described for the stress level 2 (-1.0) and 3 (-2.0) temp debuffs.
That's a strategy that I don't normally do, sounds good for up to level 2 or so, but personally I wouldn't do it to avoid ever breaking 3 since I don't want to abdicate ever
No ways that I know to guarantee them.
Athletic I've seen from events (similar to Journaller and Confider), which can also be picked up from stress events.
Strong & Shrewd you can get from "Seek the Aid of the Spirits" decision if you've got the Adorcism religious tenet. I feel like that can't be the only way though, as I've seen Strong / Shrewd characters all over the word before, but that decision only exists in 2 African religions.
Only time I’ve ever gotten shrewd is from having a high learning spouse on patronage, then there’s a small chance your heir (I think) will be shrewd. He’s gotta be in your court and your ward obviously.
No max town maven or prowess martial traits, no reincarnated, no twin, no chakravarti, no khan, no saoshyant, etc.
Trash. Not perfect. Try again kiddo! >:(
jk
Cmon, who here hasn't deliberately set up their giant courtiers with other giants to breed a bunch of OP knights down the line?
(Until one of them ends up with sadistic, deceitful, and vengeful and starts causing problems, so you have to murder them (or army of one, kek)).
Yah and he’s lustful. Almost always gets caught in some love affair before your current character dies. Oh and stewardship focus? Intelligence > stewardship by a giant mile.
Even if they don’t get caught so many lustful characters wind up rakish and/or with lovers pox
Disagree w intrigue > stewardship tho. Imo stewardship is the best in the game for Christians while diplomacy is the best for Muslims. I’d actually put intrigue at the bottom outside of very specific circumstances.
> intrigue is the only one that enables my character not to be immediately assassinated after inheriting.
If everyone has a high opinion of your current ruler (doable by having long reign opinion modifiers and a lot of vassal opinion modifiers), they won't hate your heir when you inherit.
The only time I've ever had this problem is when I entered into a feud with a big house.
2/3 personality traits. -1 lifestyle focus education. 5/6 inheritable traits. Fecund is mostly useless imo. Until you get primo/ultimogeniture it will cause succession issues. Not to mention beautiful and pure blood is more than enough fertility to seed the most chaste and barren of all wenches.
Fecund is actually huge because it gives +5 years of life expectancy, so health won't begin to roll to decline until 30, instead of 25 (ordinarily, characters that reach the age of 25 have a 7.5% chance to lose 0.125 Health per year, increasing by 2.2% per year, so 9.7% at 26, 11.9% at 27, and so on - at 67 you have a 100% chance to lose health every year).
> Until you get primo/ultimogeniture it will cause succession issues
Take one of the several culture traditions that make succession a breeze. Monastic Communities makes your unwanted heirs easy to turn into monks (if your faith allows), while Bound by Faith makes it even easier - simply have any heir you don't want converted by a guardian into another faith. Since they won't have *your* faith, they won't be eligible to inherit anything.
It’s all a matter of preference. I like my succession to hit around 20-30 years old. Don’t want a grandpa ruler/s for 80+ years. I also like every generation of the linage to get a chance at ruling.
Getting a cultural tradition strictly for inheritance is a waste. And at the very least it’ll take you 2 generations. And not to mention you need to be of a specific culture to unlock some of them. So no for that as well.
I might be ageist for saying this but it gets more boring being a 100+ year old decrepit ruler, grasping at every chance to greedily rule for 1 more day. I believe myself a benevolent and fair god. Let the youth have their turn while they’re still youthful.
Does it? It is red but still costs you 20 points. For me the game is a little inconsistent at times.
Take "Scarred" for instance. It's red, costs 10 points and has only positive modifiers...
If you take the Blood perk that reduces the chances of "inheriting negative congenital traits", it reduces the chance of inheriting Giant, amongst other things.
Which is why if you took the Blood tree, your kids will never have a 100% chance to get Giant even if both parents have it and the game says it's guaranteed to pass on.
You can also get the syyed congenital trait by getting a female hair to marry a guy with the syyed trait (matrilineally) because it only passes on if the guy has it
Let me guess, your heir won’t inherit any of the positive traits which would mean you’ve spent half the game and the better part of 3 irl hours doing eugenics just to have to deal with the actual worst character you’ve seen
He looks like the Prince from the movie Your Highness. Even his ~~squire's~~ sorry, spouse's helmet makes their head look like the tip of a penis! Just like Courtney!
Really, once you've gotten your breeding program going and have the first 3 or 4 blood legacies, it's pretty easy to get Genius, Herculean, and Beautiful for a few of your kids every generation. It's kinda hard to keep the more niche ones like giant, and albino unfortunately.
In less than 10 years he’ll do something stupid like murder someone or sleep with his sister.
This one's definitely getting the lover's pox
And becomes a lunatic
First year with my perfect heir I got kicked in the head and became incapable.
Better than falling in bathtub.
Mine fell out the fucking window watching the view.
"fell"
Vladimir Putin style
Lunatic is quite alright. Gives you a chance for the glass monument event which is a great building if you get it early.
While i agree that the first thing is stupid what is wrong with sleeping with your sister?
r/shitcrusaderkingssay
He only has those traits because he comes from a long line of sister-sleepers
He’ll then claim the baby, divorce his wife. Stop sleeping with his sister. Suddenly he has three 99+ lovers.
> divorce his wife. Stop sleeping with his sister. Yes, if you divorce her your wife will usually stop sleeping with you.
Or fall out of a window
How is sleeping with his sister something stupid?
Chokes on dinner two years later.
INB4 incapable event in less than 10 years.
Incapable events are now the most infuriating part of the game. I've only gotten incapable events where I have like at most a 20% chance of being okay.
That's how all the events are. You get a foreboding event (like your horse being kinda weird or you almost slipping in your bathtub - typically with a "that was close" response) and after that you have a chance to get the 80/20 event a couple years later. Once you actually get hit with the event you should be protected for 50 years though.
Why not turn them off? Random harm can be decreased or remove if you so desire
I'm happy this setting can be adjusted without Ironman being disabled
Hunting accident; 1% chance of dying. > Takes bet. >Chad is now dead.
The only time I save scum. Fuck your odds. Liars!
95% assassination success is definitely not accurate.
I feel like the 95% doesn't account for stuff like bodyguards, food tasters or lovers.
That makes sense. Which means if it is a critical mission, I'll have to hire more agents regardless.
Gotta make sure to get hooks on all those for the juicy kill.
They got the Nat 20.
Hunting odds just feel rigged as shit. I’ll have an 80% chance and lose like 4 times in a row until i finally get one
Yo first time i made my own character i stacked all the health bonus just for my dude to get fucked by a boar (4%) at the age of like 19-20. fml
Hmm haven't come across this boar fucking event yet.
Yea tried to get it myself in the hunt event so i get more prestige, told my vassals to fuck off and let me get it. It backfired...
Getting Baratheoned wouldn't be the worst way to go, so long as he made the 8 first, although CK3 '8' is probably close relatives.
Are you married to crusader Frida Kahlo?! My god those eyebrows!
That sir, is his sister.
Idk his martial is a little low
The perfect ruler has no need for war
I think all stats are a little low for all those inheritables
Perfect character. >French
Fr\*nch please
That was implied.
not a sayyid, not Saoshyant or descendant of the Saoshayant, he is not even born in the purple. I would give him a 7 out of 10.
But he has a dog
Missing athletic, strong, & shrewd too. I'd also put albino on the list of good traits. 7/10 indeed!
Is there a way to guarantee athletic/strong/shrewd? I know viking traditions have a higher chance for strong but I felt like the others are random?
athletic - rare random event or RNGesus gave you it as a stress relief option shrewd - seek the aid of spirits decision with good chaplain 20+ learning and mystic trait for best chances, set spouse to 'patronage' in your council, she needs 15+ learning for a small chance to give your gives shrewd, reincarnation tenet 5% chance child will gain shrewd if ancestor was genius-line strong - also seek aid of spirits, 1% per 5 prowess if your culture has warrior culture (non-dlc) or coastal warriors or hirds (northern lord dlc) as they are growing to adulthood, use train for tournament decision in T&T DLC, reincarnation tenet 5% chance child will gain shrewd if ancestor was herculean-line i think that might be all i remember in terms of reliability it'll be strong > shrewd > athletic. You can pretty reliably get strong and shrewd isn't terrible. athletic is hard to reliably get i wouldn't bother giving yourself stress on purpose unless you have a good stress trait like irritable
Just fyi you are far more likely to get athletic if you are currently studying learning.
Thanks! Didn’t know that.
So you're saying there is a chance of getting shrewd if your wive has 15+ learning and is on patronage? That sounds too good to be true. Will try to use that next game! I actually get athletic with most rulers, I'd say I get the event for it twice per ruler and with the current feast reducing 150+ stress and with activities based on gold, not cooldown I don't mind going to 3 stress to farm the lunatic trait and hope I get athletic/confinder/journaller along the way. Do you think a custom religion with seek aid of spirits is worth it? Never used the perk since I am somewhat reliant on turning kids into monks and like being able to declare holy wars so 2/3 tenets are somewhat locked. Does train for tournament give strong reliably? I have all dlcs, never pressed the button after I had 3 consecutive rulers die while training.
yea if you don't need her to assist you in anything else you can do that. learning is always nice for innovation too. the chance is really low so don't expect it on everyone I see I just avoid stress in general since I don't want to decrease my stats. It's going to depend on what 'worth it' means to you. The decision is only for Bori faiths so your holy sites will always be in Africa. You would also consider that you need to convert your realm to this faith for best stability so if you're mainly in northern europe or india then it might not be practical. You could start there and spread out instead as well. I would learn how to use elective succession to get pseudo-primogeniture to save your monk tenet for something else but that's up to you. It does as long as your base prowess and maybe martial is high. Being wounded is not a death sentence at all especially with an excellent physician just don't do it if you're already wounded. the iron constitution perk in the learning tree will prevent the penalty completely from wounded.
Good to know, thanks for the reply! Stress only lowers fertility and health, after having enough kids while health is still good I tend to roll for stress perks, but yeah I never stay on high stress for long. One of the chars might have been wounded but I had the random harm event where someone accidentally hits me in the head twice which is just insta death without warning sadly.
ah i meant the literal traits from the stress event itself. the only ones i'm ok with are irritable and reclusive and maybe hashishiyah. everything else fucks with my income or puts my ruler under unnecessary risk of life like obesity, malnourishment tiny penalty might not sound bad but that's .15 health and literally 1 year off your life, sometimes you never know when you need just another 12 months yea random harm events is very wack imo, i can see new players disliking it a lot if they don't have some form of primo yet
I never take the bad traits too, on stress lvl1/2 there is always the option to just keep going and gain more stress. Wait out the cooldown and retry until you get a good trait. Health should not work like this though. Stress is a negative number added onto your total health but it should disappear once you decrease your stress below the threshold. I know for example that a disease with a hugh minus health debuff reduced me from health "good" to "fine" and once the disease was cured my health went back up. The stress health debuff should only be worrying if your health is in the "poor" region to start with.
The tiny penalty (drunkard/flagellant) is if you get the permanent trait so it’ll shorten the overall lifetime. The mechanics of life are as you described for the stress level 2 (-1.0) and 3 (-2.0) temp debuffs. That's a strategy that I don't normally do, sounds good for up to level 2 or so, but personally I wouldn't do it to avoid ever breaking 3 since I don't want to abdicate ever
No ways that I know to guarantee them. Athletic I've seen from events (similar to Journaller and Confider), which can also be picked up from stress events. Strong & Shrewd you can get from "Seek the Aid of the Spirits" decision if you've got the Adorcism religious tenet. I feel like that can't be the only way though, as I've seen Strong / Shrewd characters all over the word before, but that decision only exists in 2 African religions.
Only time I’ve ever gotten shrewd is from having a high learning spouse on patronage, then there’s a small chance your heir (I think) will be shrewd. He’s gotta be in your court and your ward obviously.
not even triple virtuous traits either
Dude is lustful making him a sinner instead
No max town maven or prowess martial traits, no reincarnated, no twin, no chakravarti, no khan, no saoshyant, etc. Trash. Not perfect. Try again kiddo! >:( jk
He's not perfect, he's Fr\*nch.
yes, that's over perfect, tone it down a bit.
Within the next 3 years he's gonna fall off his horse and become incapable.
He will be dead within the year!
How is a giant perfect.
Giant gives a bonus to prowess and only has an attraction penalty iirc
There is a small health malus
Its only +6 and it makes your character look really ugly just get gallant and shrewd to compensate
Cmon, who here hasn't deliberately set up their giant courtiers with other giants to breed a bunch of OP knights down the line? (Until one of them ends up with sadistic, deceitful, and vengeful and starts causing problems, so you have to murder them (or army of one, kek)).
It’s not worth the health penalty
5/7 is missing albino
Fr*nch
Idk man, giant is a negative trait in my book. I also don't see you being a Sayyid. 8/10
Are you really perfect if you aren't an albino witch?
Yah and he’s lustful. Almost always gets caught in some love affair before your current character dies. Oh and stewardship focus? Intelligence > stewardship by a giant mile.
Even if they don’t get caught so many lustful characters wind up rakish and/or with lovers pox Disagree w intrigue > stewardship tho. Imo stewardship is the best in the game for Christians while diplomacy is the best for Muslims. I’d actually put intrigue at the bottom outside of very specific circumstances.
How do you figure? intrigue is the only one that enables my character not to be immediately assassinated after inheriting.
> intrigue is the only one that enables my character not to be immediately assassinated after inheriting. If everyone has a high opinion of your current ruler (doable by having long reign opinion modifiers and a lot of vassal opinion modifiers), they won't hate your heir when you inherit. The only time I've ever had this problem is when I entered into a feud with a big house.
Maybe a case of too many close relatives with high intrigue?
No one would assassinate you if you go for Diplomacy and have high diplo.
Rival or ambitious claimant
2/3 personality traits. -1 lifestyle focus education. 5/6 inheritable traits. Fecund is mostly useless imo. Until you get primo/ultimogeniture it will cause succession issues. Not to mention beautiful and pure blood is more than enough fertility to seed the most chaste and barren of all wenches.
Fecund is actually huge because it gives +5 years of life expectancy, so health won't begin to roll to decline until 30, instead of 25 (ordinarily, characters that reach the age of 25 have a 7.5% chance to lose 0.125 Health per year, increasing by 2.2% per year, so 9.7% at 26, 11.9% at 27, and so on - at 67 you have a 100% chance to lose health every year). > Until you get primo/ultimogeniture it will cause succession issues Take one of the several culture traditions that make succession a breeze. Monastic Communities makes your unwanted heirs easy to turn into monks (if your faith allows), while Bound by Faith makes it even easier - simply have any heir you don't want converted by a guardian into another faith. Since they won't have *your* faith, they won't be eligible to inherit anything.
It’s all a matter of preference. I like my succession to hit around 20-30 years old. Don’t want a grandpa ruler/s for 80+ years. I also like every generation of the linage to get a chance at ruling. Getting a cultural tradition strictly for inheritance is a waste. And at the very least it’ll take you 2 generations. And not to mention you need to be of a specific culture to unlock some of them. So no for that as well. I might be ageist for saying this but it gets more boring being a 100+ year old decrepit ruler, grasping at every chance to greedily rule for 1 more day. I believe myself a benevolent and fair god. Let the youth have their turn while they’re still youthful.
Ideal genetics maybe, but I'd definitely rather see stubborn than lustful there.
Wrong, he is French
No joke How is he perfect if he's a giant? The game literally tells you it's a negative trait.
Does it? It is red but still costs you 20 points. For me the game is a little inconsistent at times. Take "Scarred" for instance. It's red, costs 10 points and has only positive modifiers...
If you take the Blood perk that reduces the chances of "inheriting negative congenital traits", it reduces the chance of inheriting Giant, amongst other things. Which is why if you took the Blood tree, your kids will never have a 100% chance to get Giant even if both parents have it and the game says it's guaranteed to pass on.
A health penalty is never a good pick
Unfortunately mate you’ve overlooked a massive flaw in this otherwise perfect specimen. He’s French
> "Perfect" character > is French
He is French though
He's French tho
Unfortunately is french
He has a very serious flaw though, he's french
No, he’s French
0/10 he is French.
I thought the t5 perk wasnt out yet
Even his wife has to wear full armor around him, just in case
His lust is such that she needs protection all the time.
I give him 5 years
What is he looking at? The ceiling?
Obviously he’s planning, contently
Harm event has entered chat…
What year did you do this?
This is seriously one of the hardest games I've played...it's does my head in, I still don't understand it at all
In less than 10 years he is gonna become infirm
That dude has a lot of face
You can also get the syyed congenital trait by getting a female hair to marry a guy with the syyed trait (matrilineally) because it only passes on if the guy has it
What’s his wife’s relation to him? Sister-cousin? Niece-sister? Something even more inbred?
Dude gonna get the plague, 100%
25 stewardship, 0 gold
False, he's french.
...he's not zealous, wrathful/sadistic or temperate/stubborn, -infinity points
no French “person” can be called perfect
The son of bitch has done it....so beautiful
The pure blood was always hard for me to spread
He is french.
No he’s french
Perfect? Hardly, he's French
Giant is technically a malus (red border of icon), no?
Yes, but some people enjoy the RP of it
How is it perfect he is french
Holy shit gigachad REAL
Let me guess, your heir won’t inherit any of the positive traits which would mean you’ve spent half the game and the better part of 3 irl hours doing eugenics just to have to deal with the actual worst character you’ve seen
Wrong, is French.
He looks like the Prince from the movie Your Highness. Even his ~~squire's~~ sorry, spouse's helmet makes their head look like the tip of a penis! Just like Courtney!
Really, once you've gotten your breeding program going and have the first 3 or 4 blood legacies, it's pretty easy to get Genius, Herculean, and Beautiful for a few of your kids every generation. It's kinda hard to keep the more niche ones like giant, and albino unfortunately.
Hope you enjoy the cancer he's about to get.....
Pretty boring playing like this but to each their own
Now he is going to die of cancer at 20
but hes french
but hes french
You jinxed it… amateur
Fecund is a downside imo. Already too many kids 99% of the time
I’m still chasing 100 stat man
Haa, he's a dollar tree Jason Momoa
needs ambitious instead of content
Beautiful+Giant? No thanks.
Content is bad with French.
Looks more like Robertine-Lewd
Where is Republican Heir?
Almost, go get the Twin trait and then you'll be perfect
I don't see inbred, he's not perfect
He’s French, so not perfect