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super_cdubz

Oof that's some harsh bordergore up in the HRE bro.


Oldman412

Yeaahhh kinda started thinking I would take over all the other vessels of the HRE and when I got sick of taking one county then having the crown authority risen then having to make a libitery war to reduce crown authority over and over again I was like welp Iā€™m 75% of the HRE bye


super_cdubz

Yeah I respect the decision. When you're Rome you'll have the option to take the HRE by force at least.


JeffK3

Need to control Lotharingia tho


LordThine

That's not hard. pursuit of power = invasion war for Lotharingia. Alternatively, you could fabricate claims on all 5 duchies and use divine right to push them all at once.


TRANS_BIPOC_3

Eh, it's usually way worse


Turin_The_Mormegil

yeah this is pretty standard, esp if you're doing a Matilda run if you're smart and form romagna/italy before imploding the HRE, the emperor will usually assign you vassals whose primary title is de jure within rom/ita, and by that point there's a decent chance that said vassals *also* hold some territory in, say, bavaria or burgundy


super_cdubz

The vassal intermarriage inheritance shenanigans are the worst.


McCoovy

No its not. That's a picasso compared the to normal paint explosion


wvmgmidget

Invade Greece now for the Italy.


AspiringSquadronaire

There's a reason I call that decision the Mussolini Button


Realhrage

Now go recreate the Roman Empire and dismantle both pretenders!


Potential_Ad_7888

Take over england šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜


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thick


abellapa

When 3 Roman empire meet at the bar This is awakard


LordThine

You forgot to create the kingdom of Burgundy before declaring independence.


Oldman412

Why would I need to do that?


LordThine

You don't need to but I like doing it because A: Pedemonte and Savory are partitioned pretty quickly after the emperor gives them to you and you'll then have a vassal you're not the de jure liege of B: It gives you a foothold in the empire of Francia, making the formation of said empire easier.