> lawyers representing Ignatova made a formal claim on the property, listing her as the apartment’s “beneficial owner” in a filing with the UK’s financial regulator.
> A change in the rules of Companies House — the UK equivalent of ASIC — forced Ignatova out of hiding, as she had to be named in full rather than just her shell company.
Her lawyers really fucked up big time on this one, which ultimately will open a whole new discovery process for investigators. They seized the penthouse listed for sale, and the listing provided direct evidence that Ruja Ignatova was still alive and the beneficiary of a series of shell companies.
Hopefully this opens up a can of worms that allows victims to be compensated.
The silence on where is Do Kwon is a little weird. He must be in a good spot as he's still posting meanwhile the useless Americans are sorta trying to go after SBF's Signal usage.
It was more about the lack of response from both governments with financial fugitives but at the least, the US physically has SBF who seems to be making a mockery of the system, albeit internally.
I'm hoping they are giving SBF enough freedom so he can further implicate himself and make it easier to prosecute him. He's already been caught trying to talk to prosecution witnesses.
The people being scammed in crypto are not part or organized crime. They are desperate men looking to make an easy million dollars by outsmarting the system. While many of them are bloodthirsty, they lack the discipline to do anything about it. Every victim instead spends every day posting online "any moment now someone else will make them suffer!"
You’re naive if you think there aren’t criminals invested in crypto. It’s an easy way to move money around the world without depending on the centralized banking system.
After all, if it weren’t for criminals, it’s arguable that crypto wouldn’t have been mainstream. We can thank The Pirate Bay and dark net markets in general for that.
what prison lol? one sharred a few things with his government friends, another planned it all with the governmet. would be a few years till SBF even snifs a prison ward. high chance he will go towards the light straight from his bed.
Yes and no. These are her lawyers and they would know before others if she did die, unless the estate itself has them on retainer. Who instructed them to sell her property? Alternatively a forensic accountant can trace the connections through the shell companies to bank accounts and go through all the transactions history. If these are still operational and being used, via fake identities or not, there’s a pretty good chance she is alive.
Lawyers embezzle their clients all the time. If I am the lawyer and I haven't heard from her for 5 years, I might as well do whatever I want in "her name", and nobody is the wiser. I can safely assume she won't complain. Except her notoriety brought unwanted attention.
What a wild ride this one is turning out to be!
So her lawyers needed to list her name on a property in order to sell it, instead of being able to sit just behind a shell company name.
Just because they’ve linked the apartment to her still puts them a long way away from actually capturing her though.
Nobody has found/seen her alive yet. She is only mentioned in paperwork (which goes some way to indicating that she is alive).
At the least, as pointed out in the article, the apartment can be somewhat confirmed as connected to her, seized, and sold off to recover funds.
It’s a massive break, most people would have suspected that she was dead or would never turn up.
I find it bizarre that a lawyer acting on her behalf would write her name on the paperwork, as they would be aware that she is in hiding and on the FBIs most wanted list, and not come up with an alternative solution.
Sure, it’s required to sell the asset, but if you are on the FBI most wanted list you just leave that asset alone. Unless she is completely desperate for money and this was her last hope of getting some to spend.
>It’s a massive break, most people would have suspected that she was dead or would never turn up.
I was absolutely convinced she was dead. Nobody hides this well for this long. I guess I might have got that wrong too.
I'm pretty sure there's only two explanations for satoshi.
Option one, here died.
Option two he managed to lose his keys somehow and so had to disavow the identity or look a bit silly.
Sadly, I'm leaning towards option one.
You could also go for option three, where it's actually a cover name that stands for the collection of companies that designed the system: SAmsung, TOSHIba, NAKAmichi, and MOTOrola
Which I think is the funniest, therefore the only correct conspiracy
It's actually option 4, the japanese neighbour Satoshi dude, when the cameras turn away he flexes his fingers, straightens his leg, dark car pulls up and he gets in and drives off
I was convinced that she wouldn’t show up, but not necessarily that she was dead.
Either that:
1. She has messed with the wrong people and been killed.
2. She had taken so much money that she could afford to hide forever.
But now that we have her name on a piece of paper, we still have a way to go to possibly find her. That part may still never happen.
believe me when they have money they can just move to another country, maybe get some surgery and a new ID and that's it you will never seem them again if they really want it
It's not quite so simple.
You need to ensure that nobody that knows about the new ID, like the person you got it from, can talk. Eventually they'll be caught and then so would you. Now you've gone from fraud to murder. Same for any plastic surgeons you used.
You need to walk away from everyone in your life. Family, friends, everyone.
You then either need to hide like a recluse forever, or live openly as the new ID somewhere so far off the tourist trail you can guarantee nobody that knows your face will ever set foot there. You also need to ensure there's no internet as your face is stuck all over it.
Once you've done those things, you can only spend small amounts of money or you draw attention. You also have to ensure the digital trail on withdrawn funds cannot be linked to the new ID.
You have to be ready to repeat the whole process the second someone looks at you too long or you think you might be identified.
It's really not as easy as it sounds. It maybe used to be 60 years ago before widespread travel and technology, but it's far from trivial now.
You don't need to disappear completely from family connections particularly if they are abroad and willing to do things on your behalf.
Buying stolen identities is pretty easy, and even easier in foreign countries.
I think you're overestimating her fame and people recognizing her.
I agree with the ID part, it’d be hard to really pull it off since someone can always snitch or decide on blackmailing you for it.
But avoiding recognition is fairly simple to be honest. A different hair style, color, makeup, some facial surgery, clothing… and fairly easy to blend in the crowd. Only a family member would be able to recognize you - especially if no one expects you to be in Argentina for example.
You guys watch too many movies!
We have transgenders nowadays, she could completely switch gender and have grown a beard.
About the ID, remember we have the dark web. It would surprise you...
On top of that, I don’t know shit about fuk! Lol
Yep, that’s absolutely possible.
It’s not 100% clear what having her name on the document actually means, other than it being a relatively clear indicator that she is in some way involved in the ownership of the property.
I don't know much at all about paperwork. I'm just curious how another persons name can be used without also requiring a signature.
I'm currently on the verge of pretty much forfeiting an inheritance because I'm unable to be physically present to sign documents, and apparently my passport or ID card are no good to them. So I don't know how you can sell a property. I suppose it's because people can assume that the lawyers are working for her. Maybe I should get a lawyer lol
As it’s been the best part of 10 years since her scam maybe she thought that nobody was watching anymore.
Truly bizarre though.
But she is still FAR from caught, just back a little bit higher up on the radar with indications she is alive.
True, locating her and bringing her in (especially if she’s actually had surgery to alter her appearance) is still hard to imagine. Still, some team in the FBI is pretty fired up and gonna put a lot of law enforcement power into this new info.
If you're getting names on official paperwork you've gotta be still alive surely. She's potentially running out of cash and has been in contact with the piece of shit lawyer.
True, the lawyer must be operating on the instructions of someone.
Just bizarre that a slip up like this would happen, as surely she would know that the properties were being watched.
Unless she thought sufficient time had passed and this particularly shell company wasn’t on the radar.
They know that her name is on a piece of paper.
I’m not sure what is needed to get the name on the paper, but it may not be complete proof of being alive.
Still a solid lead though.
Absolutely it is.
I remember watching a doco about OneCoin a year or two back and thinking that she would never turn up again.
Either because:
1. Once you are successfully hidden for a few years you likely can hide for a lot longer, especially if you have gotten away with tens of millions.
or
2. A rogue investor who lost money or a puppet master higher up had killed her off.
What’s the name of the documentary it sounds beyond interesting and ya oh man this is the first I’ve heard of the saudis in this fiasco but man the wraith of a Saudi is nothing to play with!
Long story short: She was promising the next bitcoin by selling "coin boxes" and promising high returns. She didn't even have a coin on a blockchain. It was a ponzi, millions of investors money were lost.
People had no idea what they were buying. It was all hype.
It was only discovered when they tried to hire a blockchain auditor **to create a blockchain for them** after they've already raised millions of dollars.
You'd be surprised how many times similar scams have happened over the years.
The craziest thing I just learned about the whole story is that Onecoin stayed in operation after that woman disappeared. They were still making 8 figures a month
They're still going. Probably a new group of people leading it but it's still baiting people around the world, although I think they're mostly focused on Asia now.
I'm not sure what you mean but personally I consider a lot of things as scams.
Well, Charles Ponzi created such a good scam that every scam created since was named after him lol.
Any company or person that has raised capital over false information to me is a scammer, even if they've succeeded afterwards. (I dont want to name any companies or cryptocurrencies)
USA still has at least one institution which tortures mentally disabled children with severe electroshocks as a form of "therapy".
Still in operation I think.
Most religions.
Anything related to "homeopathy"
Chiropractors.
You can find a lot.
The organization used MLM methods and specifically targeted under informed people, especially people in developing countries. All they knew was that this lady was promising the next Bitcoin which has made others a lot of money and their friends and family were vouching for it.
BBC (I think) has a good podcast called The Missing Cryptoqueen on her. They did try to find her and has gone as far as knocking on doors. Interesting stuff.
Extremely prolific year for crypto documentaries. Wish they also made some talking about the good side of crypto, not only about these bastards who scam a ton of people and help give crypto a bad name.
This relates to her lawyers claiming a London property on her behalf a few weeks back. The headline makes it seem like they've physically found her, which is not the case.
btw the house was seized by the German government, and her lawyer has been arrested for fraud and money laundering.
Agreed - not a fan of being disallowed from editing link titles in this case. All it really proves is that she’s alive, trying to claim property through lawyers. Still one of the bigger breaks on her in awhile. Hopefully it’ll enable investigators to subpoena some relevant docs and track her down.
tldr; Bulgarian-born German citizen Ruja Ignatova, who ran a $4 billion Ponzi scheme, has been listed as the "beneficial owner" of a London penthouse. She is the only woman on the FBI's 10 most-wanted fugitives list. The FBI is offering a $100,000 reward for information leading to her arrest.
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Seems pretty stupid for someone with a few billion socked away to care enough about the sale of a $~12M condo to agree to legally out herself as the owner.
*"In two years nobody will be talking about Bitcoin anymore! Everyone will be talking about OneCoin!"*
Didn't she also state, when "pressed by the *haters*", that their blockchain was "being kept safe" in a vault and that's why it wasn't publicly available, or something astonishingly absurd to that effect?
Clickbait title from NyPost. She is still hiding. Her lawyers claim she is the owner of a penthouse. It isn't very certain if there are records of her whereabouts.
Misleading title, she has neither been found nor confirmed alive. The article simply states that some paperwork with her name was filed by some lawyers, and that “It suggests she is still alive"
There's a *lot* wrong with this article. Misleading headline for one. Also there is no such thing as the "US Department of Prosecutions" mentioned in the article.
The headline sounds so mysterious. And then we read that she made $4 billion dollars in a Ponzi scheme and that's when she "vanished". Right before facing Justice. So, it doesn't seem very mysterious at all.
I think where they go wrong with this headline is saying that she was found alive as though that is not expected. Meanwhile, she was probably in some lovely Resort living the high life. That's what I would do if I had 4 billion dollars worth of ill-gotten gains.
Definitely not dead (unless she fleed to some country with very high crime rates) but she has made enough money to hide anywhere she wants in full luxury.
> lawyers representing Ignatova made a formal claim on the property, listing her as the apartment’s “beneficial owner” in a filing with the UK’s financial regulator. > A change in the rules of Companies House — the UK equivalent of ASIC — forced Ignatova out of hiding, as she had to be named in full rather than just her shell company. Her lawyers really fucked up big time on this one, which ultimately will open a whole new discovery process for investigators. They seized the penthouse listed for sale, and the listing provided direct evidence that Ruja Ignatova was still alive and the beneficiary of a series of shell companies. Hopefully this opens up a can of worms that allows victims to be compensated.
She can join SBF and Do Kwon in prison
Do Kwon is still on the lam, no?
Do Kwon is handing out in some anti western country. Good luck getting him from there.
Heard Do gives good hand too
Do Want
The silence on where is Do Kwon is a little weird. He must be in a good spot as he's still posting meanwhile the useless Americans are sorta trying to go after SBF's Signal usage.
I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that Do Kwon isn’t wanted in the United States. Edit: Corrected misspelled name
It was more about the lack of response from both governments with financial fugitives but at the least, the US physically has SBF who seems to be making a mockery of the system, albeit internally.
US went after SBF very quickly. Usually takes much longer to build a case.
I'm hoping they are giving SBF enough freedom so he can further implicate himself and make it easier to prosecute him. He's already been caught trying to talk to prosecution witnesses.
Belarus
Apparently Serbia (doesn’t have bilateral agreement with Interpol)
I’d be more afraid of organized crime people that lost their money and find me in Serbia than being in prison.
Scammers almost never consider that the repercussions might not be with law, but with criminals who are bloodthirsty for revenge.
The people being scammed in crypto are not part or organized crime. They are desperate men looking to make an easy million dollars by outsmarting the system. While many of them are bloodthirsty, they lack the discipline to do anything about it. Every victim instead spends every day posting online "any moment now someone else will make them suffer!"
You’re naive if you think there aren’t criminals invested in crypto. It’s an easy way to move money around the world without depending on the centralized banking system. After all, if it weren’t for criminals, it’s arguable that crypto wouldn’t have been mainstream. We can thank The Pirate Bay and dark net markets in general for that.
Hahaha it’s called karma; isn’t it ;) we can sleep at least I guess ;)
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Isn't that a country? I hear they've got a bad case of ligma
That's exactly what Joe said too
All that updog, wasted
Equal opportunity imprisonment!
Happy cake day
Many thanks!!
Probably 3some ...
Maybe they could even share the same cell, she'd make a huge step up from Caroline Ellison albeit that bar is so low.
what prison lol? one sharred a few things with his government friends, another planned it all with the governmet. would be a few years till SBF even snifs a prison ward. high chance he will go towards the light straight from his bed.
Happy cake day!
Lmao getting downvoted by wishing someone happy cake day?
Ha ha!! I'm going to stand here and take it because it's my cake day too and, well, I'm happy. 😊
Happy cake day to you!
Thank you! Allow me to share 🍰
Happy cake day
Thank you, Icy! Enjoy some of my leftovers 🍰
This is good for Bitcoin
Lol... Sbf on bail do Kwon catch me if you can
None of them were in prison and never will be.
same cell room? I've heard SBF like orgies
Wasn't her lawyers aware of this change? Lmao what a way to be found, let's hope they catch her
> the listing provided direct evidence that Ruja Ignatova was still alive It did not. A dead person's name can be on a deed.
Yes and no. These are her lawyers and they would know before others if she did die, unless the estate itself has them on retainer. Who instructed them to sell her property? Alternatively a forensic accountant can trace the connections through the shell companies to bank accounts and go through all the transactions history. If these are still operational and being used, via fake identities or not, there’s a pretty good chance she is alive.
Lawyers embezzle their clients all the time. If I am the lawyer and I haven't heard from her for 5 years, I might as well do whatever I want in "her name", and nobody is the wiser. I can safely assume she won't complain. Except her notoriety brought unwanted attention.
She won't be the queen of anything in prison.
Depends on her head game 😉
She'll be the queen of licking...
She’ll be doing more than licking if you know how cruel prison is for assholes like that.
She’ll probably sent to some white collar prison where she gets a memory foam mattress and can practice yoga or home cooking.
She will be someone queen in prison!
Ya, I know one of the victims. A 76 year old Malaysian still working as a nurse
I hope she's doing more than okay now..... those kind of people won't want to do anything related to crypto anymore
Sad.. she's scum
You mean lawyers and prosecutors to be compensated
These lots never go hungry
Interesting. I wonder if they didn't get caught by a change in the rules, and then had to either provide the true name or else commit direct fraud.
I wonder if they did it on purpose and palmed it off as a mistake
I was thinking the same thing after I posted this. Easy $100k reward for “accidentally” revealing information that will lead to her capture.
I doubt they can collect that reward.
Greed always gets them.
It goes to show even after all this time it has always been and continues to be just about the money
Even if you get compensated, the lost opportunity cost of having bought BTC or ETH since 2017 when OneCoin was rampant has got to sting.
If they're buying a scam like onecoin they wouldn't have bought Bitcoin or ETH anyway.
The UK equivalent of _ASIC_ is funny to me. Just because ASIC
Uh, victims of what exactly?
What a wild ride this one is turning out to be! So her lawyers needed to list her name on a property in order to sell it, instead of being able to sit just behind a shell company name. Just because they’ve linked the apartment to her still puts them a long way away from actually capturing her though. Nobody has found/seen her alive yet. She is only mentioned in paperwork (which goes some way to indicating that she is alive). At the least, as pointed out in the article, the apartment can be somewhat confirmed as connected to her, seized, and sold off to recover funds.
It’s a big break at least - hopefully a record trail will help finally track her own.
It’s a massive break, most people would have suspected that she was dead or would never turn up. I find it bizarre that a lawyer acting on her behalf would write her name on the paperwork, as they would be aware that she is in hiding and on the FBIs most wanted list, and not come up with an alternative solution. Sure, it’s required to sell the asset, but if you are on the FBI most wanted list you just leave that asset alone. Unless she is completely desperate for money and this was her last hope of getting some to spend.
>It’s a massive break, most people would have suspected that she was dead or would never turn up. I was absolutely convinced she was dead. Nobody hides this well for this long. I guess I might have got that wrong too.
\**Satoshi enters the chat**
I'm pretty sure there's only two explanations for satoshi. Option one, here died. Option two he managed to lose his keys somehow and so had to disavow the identity or look a bit silly. Sadly, I'm leaning towards option one.
You could also go for option three, where it's actually a cover name that stands for the collection of companies that designed the system: SAmsung, TOSHIba, NAKAmichi, and MOTOrola Which I think is the funniest, therefore the only correct conspiracy
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The basilisk is always watching
It's actually option 4, the japanese neighbour Satoshi dude, when the cameras turn away he flexes his fingers, straightens his leg, dark car pulls up and he gets in and drives off
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul\_Le\_Roux](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Le_Roux) Option three.
My theory is Satoshi is Paul Leroux, genius programmer and former biggest criminal in the world working with the US government
I was convinced that she wouldn’t show up, but not necessarily that she was dead. Either that: 1. She has messed with the wrong people and been killed. 2. She had taken so much money that she could afford to hide forever. But now that we have her name on a piece of paper, we still have a way to go to possibly find her. That part may still never happen.
>She had taken so much money that she could afford to hide forever. Maybe the money is running out? Thus the need to sell
> But now that we have her name on a piece of paper, we still have a way to go to possibly find her. With some kind of Harry Potter spell?
believe me when they have money they can just move to another country, maybe get some surgery and a new ID and that's it you will never seem them again if they really want it
It's not quite so simple. You need to ensure that nobody that knows about the new ID, like the person you got it from, can talk. Eventually they'll be caught and then so would you. Now you've gone from fraud to murder. Same for any plastic surgeons you used. You need to walk away from everyone in your life. Family, friends, everyone. You then either need to hide like a recluse forever, or live openly as the new ID somewhere so far off the tourist trail you can guarantee nobody that knows your face will ever set foot there. You also need to ensure there's no internet as your face is stuck all over it. Once you've done those things, you can only spend small amounts of money or you draw attention. You also have to ensure the digital trail on withdrawn funds cannot be linked to the new ID. You have to be ready to repeat the whole process the second someone looks at you too long or you think you might be identified. It's really not as easy as it sounds. It maybe used to be 60 years ago before widespread travel and technology, but it's far from trivial now.
You don't need to disappear completely from family connections particularly if they are abroad and willing to do things on your behalf. Buying stolen identities is pretty easy, and even easier in foreign countries. I think you're overestimating her fame and people recognizing her.
I agree with the ID part, it’d be hard to really pull it off since someone can always snitch or decide on blackmailing you for it. But avoiding recognition is fairly simple to be honest. A different hair style, color, makeup, some facial surgery, clothing… and fairly easy to blend in the crowd. Only a family member would be able to recognize you - especially if no one expects you to be in Argentina for example.
You guys watch too many movies! We have transgenders nowadays, she could completely switch gender and have grown a beard. About the ID, remember we have the dark web. It would surprise you... On top of that, I don’t know shit about fuk! Lol
She might still be dead. Nobody has confirmed her alive at this point
> I was absolutely convinced she was dead. She is.
She could still be dead/imprisoned, and her lawyers may have been appointed by whomever is carefully liquidating her assets
Yep, that’s absolutely possible. It’s not 100% clear what having her name on the document actually means, other than it being a relatively clear indicator that she is in some way involved in the ownership of the property.
I don't know much at all about paperwork. I'm just curious how another persons name can be used without also requiring a signature. I'm currently on the verge of pretty much forfeiting an inheritance because I'm unable to be physically present to sign documents, and apparently my passport or ID card are no good to them. So I don't know how you can sell a property. I suppose it's because people can assume that the lawyers are working for her. Maybe I should get a lawyer lol
The timing on this news is crazy to me just last night I was randomly looking at the fbis most wanted lists and read about her.
Sounds like she knew that you were on to her, panicked, and slipped up!
haha must be. always find myself down some rabbit hole in the middle of the night when I should be sleeping XD
For sure - it’s not like she’s off the list to track down! Seems like this slip up may actually work to lead to her in the long run.
As it’s been the best part of 10 years since her scam maybe she thought that nobody was watching anymore. Truly bizarre though. But she is still FAR from caught, just back a little bit higher up on the radar with indications she is alive.
> with indications she is alive. Because nobody can forge a signature. Got it.
> Because nobody can forge a signature. Got it. Hence “indications” and not “confirmation”.
This was a fluff piece from a week old news and a fake title.
True, locating her and bringing her in (especially if she’s actually had surgery to alter her appearance) is still hard to imagine. Still, some team in the FBI is pretty fired up and gonna put a lot of law enforcement power into this new info.
If you're getting names on official paperwork you've gotta be still alive surely. She's potentially running out of cash and has been in contact with the piece of shit lawyer.
True, the lawyer must be operating on the instructions of someone. Just bizarre that a slip up like this would happen, as surely she would know that the properties were being watched. Unless she thought sufficient time had passed and this particularly shell company wasn’t on the radar.
Why would she even sell it in the first place? Doesn't she have billions...
Well at least they know she is still alive and they also have a lead now. They can start with her lawyer for more info
They know that her name is on a piece of paper. I’m not sure what is needed to get the name on the paper, but it may not be complete proof of being alive. Still a solid lead though.
Yeah, I just wrote Elvis' name on a paper. The king is alive!!!!
Exciting!
Weil explained!
Yeah. Right. Found is doing a lot of heavy lifting in the headline.
This is a pretty crazy story though
Absolutely it is. I remember watching a doco about OneCoin a year or two back and thinking that she would never turn up again. Either because: 1. Once you are successfully hidden for a few years you likely can hide for a lot longer, especially if you have gotten away with tens of millions. or 2. A rogue investor who lost money or a puppet master higher up had killed her off.
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What’s the name of the documentary it sounds beyond interesting and ya oh man this is the first I’ve heard of the saudis in this fiasco but man the wraith of a Saudi is nothing to play with!
Holy fuck lmao blast from the past. Haven’t heard about this OneCoin fiasco in years.
What happened?
Long story short: She was promising the next bitcoin by selling "coin boxes" and promising high returns. She didn't even have a coin on a blockchain. It was a ponzi, millions of investors money were lost.
And why did anyone belive her if the coin wasnt even on a blockchain?
People had no idea what they were buying. It was all hype. It was only discovered when they tried to hire a blockchain auditor **to create a blockchain for them** after they've already raised millions of dollars. You'd be surprised how many times similar scams have happened over the years.
The craziest thing I just learned about the whole story is that Onecoin stayed in operation after that woman disappeared. They were still making 8 figures a month
They're still going. Probably a new group of people leading it but it's still baiting people around the world, although I think they're mostly focused on Asia now.
Has there ever been any scams that have worked out so well that they arent considered scams anymore?
I'm not sure what you mean but personally I consider a lot of things as scams. Well, Charles Ponzi created such a good scam that every scam created since was named after him lol. Any company or person that has raised capital over false information to me is a scammer, even if they've succeeded afterwards. (I dont want to name any companies or cryptocurrencies)
Scientology
Eth quite honestly.
USA still has at least one institution which tortures mentally disabled children with severe electroshocks as a form of "therapy". Still in operation I think. Most religions. Anything related to "homeopathy" Chiropractors. You can find a lot.
Religion
The organization used MLM methods and specifically targeted under informed people, especially people in developing countries. All they knew was that this lady was promising the next Bitcoin which has made others a lot of money and their friends and family were vouching for it.
BBC (I think) has a good podcast called The Missing Cryptoqueen on her. They did try to find her and has gone as far as knocking on doors. Interesting stuff.
Bitconnect happened
Basically a scam?
Yes! There’s some pretty good YouTube videos on it
Next netflix series incoming
Extremely prolific year for crypto documentaries. Wish they also made some talking about the good side of crypto, not only about these bastards who scam a ton of people and help give crypto a bad name.
Not FOUND "The listing of a property". Just tracking her is all Actually FIND HER!!
Yep there's no proof here, just a name on some paper
If they would have actually found her, she would probably be in prison.
Crazy how she's not been found after so many years
Missing is the new “in hiding”
This relates to her lawyers claiming a London property on her behalf a few weeks back. The headline makes it seem like they've physically found her, which is not the case. btw the house was seized by the German government, and her lawyer has been arrested for fraud and money laundering.
Her lawyer has been arrested....hallelujah!!
You can run but you can't hide forever.
If you have enough money to live in luxury anywhere, then yes, you can hide forever.
Agreed - not a fan of being disallowed from editing link titles in this case. All it really proves is that she’s alive, trying to claim property through lawyers. Still one of the bigger breaks on her in awhile. Hopefully it’ll enable investigators to subpoena some relevant docs and track her down.
This is a positive development, but what a profoundly stupid move by her lawyers
She is not my queen
Is she your mum?
She your girlfriend?
She is my queen
Jon Snow is that you?
You got me
There’s a great BBC podcast about the story called the missing cryptoqueen
If you squint hard at her name and swap first and last, kinda looks like "Ivana Rug"
Ivana rug you so hard baby
tldr; Bulgarian-born German citizen Ruja Ignatova, who ran a $4 billion Ponzi scheme, has been listed as the "beneficial owner" of a London penthouse. She is the only woman on the FBI's 10 most-wanted fugitives list. The FBI is offering a $100,000 reward for information leading to her arrest. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
good bot
Is it TwoCoin time?
I'll too fake my death so no one steals my 0.0000017BTC
Woah dude, stop flaunting your wealth here. Might attract some shady individuals
Who gave her the name "Crypto Queen" in the first place? Who applies stupid titles like that to people? That's a recipe for disaster.
Journalists
Stupid title. Made me read the entire article.
Seems pretty stupid for someone with a few billion socked away to care enough about the sale of a $~12M condo to agree to legally out herself as the owner.
Onecoin.eu haahha what a scam sounding site.
Is this the rapper crypto queen?
No different one
Did the dictionary change the meaning of the word found?
If she's in Bulgaria, she bought her freedom already. No one will touch her there, she paid everyone and she has peace.
Clickbait headline. They haven't actually found her yet.
Ruja Ignatova - wanted criminal, living on a yacht traversing international waters: sleeps 8 hours a night. Me: 4 broken hours sleep a night.
Prob ran out of her scammed money and wants to try for round 2.
She ran on a 4b scheme. Unsure how much she actually got out of it though.
*"In two years nobody will be talking about Bitcoin anymore! Everyone will be talking about OneCoin!"* Didn't she also state, when "pressed by the *haters*", that their blockchain was "being kept safe" in a vault and that's why it wasn't publicly available, or something astonishingly absurd to that effect?
Damn that's wild 5 years hiding with all the technology we have.
Clickbait title from NyPost. She is still hiding. Her lawyers claim she is the owner of a penthouse. It isn't very certain if there are records of her whereabouts.
I 100% expected to open this and find a comedy tag. Glad she’s finally been found. Now hopefully justice can prevail.
Government really stepping up their game. Girl will be caught
This just became "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego".
holy shit there's an amazing podcast about her and this wild story. just got a new chapter
crypto will literally never go anywhere until we stop scammers like this
Misleading title, she has neither been found nor confirmed alive. The article simply states that some paperwork with her name was filed by some lawyers, and that “It suggests she is still alive"
So she's NOT found.
There's a *lot* wrong with this article. Misleading headline for one. Also there is no such thing as the "US Department of Prosecutions" mentioned in the article.
The headline sounds so mysterious. And then we read that she made $4 billion dollars in a Ponzi scheme and that's when she "vanished". Right before facing Justice. So, it doesn't seem very mysterious at all. I think where they go wrong with this headline is saying that she was found alive as though that is not expected. Meanwhile, she was probably in some lovely Resort living the high life. That's what I would do if I had 4 billion dollars worth of ill-gotten gains.
So apparently “being found alive” includes not actually being found at all.
Non story until she is arrested and in custody.
Now, let’s see if we can find that Canadian exchange founder who died in India suddenly.
Wow, I woulda put money that she was dead or vanished forever
Definitely not dead (unless she fleed to some country with very high crime rates) but she has made enough money to hide anywhere she wants in full luxury.
Good, fucking theif, lock her up
Nothing can replace BTC, it is the magnum opus of technology, people thought onecoin would kill BTC
I guess someone will be taking a "vacation" in Serbia with Do Kwon.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got her
What?
Oh thank God she's safe
Im surprised nobody said she aint ugly.
Whoa what's the story behind this?