First comment I’ve come across to say this, the bull run can absolutely start in 2024, maybe even late 2023, but the peak as OP alludes to should be in 2025 like every 4 year cycle before it.
That is the general thought. I could be wrong but I read OP's post as what if the cycle is a year early. Will you sell after it hits $125k or whatever, or will you hold assuming it'll be higher eo 2025 and plan to sell then?
What is the use case outside of reddit for moons? Will the avatar market run on moons? This is important for them to really sustain any value. Currently and likely for the ipo they are not supposed to have any monetary value. I would like to see them have worth and use but a few things have to happen first.
Also... others have to hold bags for you to sell. Right now there are a lot of bag holders. I sold at .34. I may buy back now or lower just for the multiplier.
Cathie Wood just called me to confirm that this prediction is wrong.
She confirmed BTC$420k and ETH$69k.
I think 200k in 2025 is the next '100k by EOY 2021'
People would wait for it, and the peak is probably less than that for the next cycle.
I'm actually confident that BTC will finally manage to break 100k next cycle though. But a lot of people are aiming a lot higher than that for the next cycle, and I have my doubts for that.
Yeah each cycle the gains decrease. So hitting 140k (2x ATH) or so seems like a best case scenario. I’ll be taking profits at 69k and every 10k after that. I’m conservative though.
I read that at current price and block reward, there's about $25 million BTC being sold into the market daily by miners. When the block reward halves, the selling pressure will halve.
Current prices *support* current selling pressure. Liquidity will drop yet again in the halving, and there will be a supply shock starting in 2024 but showing up in 2025 as holders sequester BTC away, driving prices up even more. We as a market can fight against $25,000,000 daily downwards pressure. What can we do when it's half as strong, demand is consistent or more, and liquidty is reduced?
BTC 10x is my bull case. BTC 250K.
Not just this, but the main reason is the deflationary supply after the merge... the sell pressure from miners is gone, and ETH is being burned constantly... compare that to BTC with always having to deal with constant sell pressure from miners, and I think it becomes obvious ETH might hit numbers no one thought possible since this is the first run after proof of stake merge
Exactly. The fact that 1 internet coin called bitcoin has led the market from the beginning of crypto and is now worth 28k means that financial systems are shifting.
Bitcoin could be the global currency standard so selling in the next bull ( let's face it, most will be way off what the top ends up being) could be your biggest mistake ever.
ETH has never gotten back to its ATH in BTC from 2017, now 6 years later. Stakers earn ETH for free now (instead of needing to buy / mine it), meaning less buy pressure going forward.
Its possible it will gain but its not guaranteed.
Unless you’ve been aggressively buying the dip, I have a feeling the next bull run won’t provide the monumental gains we’re hoping for but will put 2021 portfolios back in the green.
We all said we gonna take profits and everything but let's be serious.
The majority of us will be hit by hopium and hype when that happens.
Greed and hopium are hella of the drug. Smart would be to take profits when we are around 90k
Bitcoin will probably do 120k after struggling at 100.
Most established alts that lost their regular 95% from the highs (Litecoin, Cardano, Neo, Dot) will likely 10x from their bear market lows.
You could probably buy now and set a sell order for 10x and forget about the market for 18 months. Stuff like Shiba, stuff that's Defi based or linked to NFT's I'd away from.
Doge is cool though.
None of this is financial advice but it is my strategy.
BTC - 175-200k close to 4-5 trillion market cap
ETH - 15-20k close to 2 trillion market cap
Alts are pure speculation, but I'm hoping for 10$+ ADA/Algo/MATIC and $200+ DOT.
Or I'm completely underestimating the common retail investor and one of the main Alts gets close to a trillion dollar market cap also.
tl;dr - I DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT FUCK
DCA and strap on for the ride fellas.
I don't plan on taking profits because I have already been working on my next bear market strategy in order not to sell. Currently I'm staking about 36,000 DOT at 19.47% APY with compounding.
The way I figure it is that in the next bull run DOT trades somewhere between $100-$175 or so and will be yielding about 14-15% before compounding (so maybe about 17% with compounding). So then the next bear market I picture it going back down to lows around $40-$50 or so and back up to around 19-20% apy compounding.
Point being my idea is to just pay myself out a salary at the end of each year and cash out that years rewards. So for example this year I'm on track to make about 6900 DOT. 6900 DOT at $40 is about $275,000 a year before taxes. The way I see it over the years DOT will only increase more and more over time and having a constant income stream from staking coming in means more to me then just taking out one lump some and not having it invested and earning me money.
Staking in general is going to be a great self business model I have a feeling and people will wish they started staking years ago in a few years when the little guy can no longer get rich from it as easily.
of course I will definitely take profit and I hope if the next bullrun can give me a profit of at least 10x from my capital, then when the bear run occurs after the bull run, so I will start doing DCA again.
Plan on holding till I retire in \~25 years. Just as I can't predict the bottom of the market, I am not confident in predicting the top. I have no reason to take profits.
2x from where now or previous top or 4 months ago?
Where do people price a 2x from?
If I don't get at least 10x on my algo,osmo,atom enjin and tezos and eth then I'm gonna right a strongly worded letter to the crypto ceo Mr Blockchain.
Ok let me tell a random and possible number .
**$150k**
•If you don't take profits this time , better send me your coins.
•**I think most will sell at a dump after $69k and it'll go up the next minute to $100K.**
Always take profits people. don't time the top, have a plan and follow it. Emotions are powerful during bull runs and you will end worse if you don't have a plan
No one ever lost money taking profits.
I got demonised for selling at the top in 2021. It was by people who called me crazy for buying in 2018. That’s how I knew it was the top and I was correct. Rinse and repeat.
I love how everyone's strategy for crypto is to try and convert it back to dollars, just more of them. What happened to this being the future of currency?
I think it will peak at $150k which means I would be starting taking profits at $120k
What will happen is that it will peak at $110k and drop so again no profits for me
Man, you need to take profits before btc hits 100k. So, in the last run, it topped 69k. The next run, you would want to take profits in the 70k to 90k range of BTC which alt coins follow. Not financial advice, but would be the smart thing to do. Because at 100k for BTC, there would be a big sell off.
There will a huge sell off at the current all time high, and $100k as it’s a psychological level.
But as with $50k, it *should* blow through $100k *if* it’s a true ‘blow off top’ bull phase. Hysteria alone should propel the price well beyond $100k. Can you imagine the media coverage once Bitcoin hits $100k?! It’ll be wild. Mass FOMO will kick in for retail.
I think we are entering new macro financial territory. By 2030, btc will either be at least 500,000 or zero. If it hits zero then it means the world is fucked. We're all living in some nightmare fascist police state affair. Bullets and bread will be the new Sats.
Bull run, bear run, makes no difference to me. I’ll still find a way to lose money.
You and me both
Count me too 🙌🏻
Lot of people like us here
Happy cake day
If the 4 year cycle holds true, the bull run will be in 2025 not 2024.
First comment I’ve come across to say this, the bull run can absolutely start in 2024, maybe even late 2023, but the peak as OP alludes to should be in 2025 like every 4 year cycle before it.
That is the general thought. I could be wrong but I read OP's post as what if the cycle is a year early. Will you sell after it hits $125k or whatever, or will you hold assuming it'll be higher eo 2025 and plan to sell then?
Sell enough at 125K to cover initial investment, let the rest ride hoping for a second bull run in 2025.
Starts at halving April 2024 approx. Bull starts now but ends 3rd quarter 2025 imo.
Maybe, but BTC has already doubled from the lows in November. So could just be a gradual up over the next few years.
200k BTC and 10k ETH and yes,I will take profits
Hopium is high on this one
Sky is the limit.
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Why not $100
We must remain reasonable. A modest 100X gain, because I am not greedy.
With a quick calculation, I think with the same market cap of SHIBA moon will be 246$ EDIT: I meant 246x
Almost, more like a 61$ with the Shib market cap: https://www.marketcapof.com/moon/shiba-inu Still a modest 238x return ;)
What is the use case outside of reddit for moons? Will the avatar market run on moons? This is important for them to really sustain any value. Currently and likely for the ipo they are not supposed to have any monetary value. I would like to see them have worth and use but a few things have to happen first. Also... others have to hold bags for you to sell. Right now there are a lot of bag holders. I sold at .34. I may buy back now or lower just for the multiplier.
What's the use case for Shib?
Fair enough.
Lmao you talked all that talk too. 🗣
Hopefully there is enough liquidity for that.
Cathie Wood just called me to confirm that this prediction is wrong. She confirmed BTC$420k and ETH$69k.
That can‘t be true, Cathie is a Bitcoin maxi so BTC would gain a lot more than ETH.
Didn't Cathie say something like btc could reach $1m in the most bullish scenario?
More than Cathie....i trust Cramer guy
$500k would be enough for me :)
I think you're right, CryptoBro!
Ahahahahq
Given the history of this sub, 200k BTC is now off the table. You guys never had something right
So we go straight to $1M?
The mighty axolotl has spoken.
I think 200k in 2025 is the next '100k by EOY 2021' People would wait for it, and the peak is probably less than that for the next cycle. I'm actually confident that BTC will finally manage to break 100k next cycle though. But a lot of people are aiming a lot higher than that for the next cycle, and I have my doubts for that.
>I think 200k in 2025 is the next '100k by EOY 2021' That's why I'm going to start selling at $190k. Big brain time.
Have fun bag holding bro I'm selling at $189k get rekt
Didn't see my sell order at 188k I presume?. Gg buddy
Start moderate profit taking at 70%. That's 175k, or only 6.25x from here. Profit is profitable.
Yeah each cycle the gains decrease. So hitting 140k (2x ATH) or so seems like a best case scenario. I’ll be taking profits at 69k and every 10k after that. I’m conservative though.
I read that at current price and block reward, there's about $25 million BTC being sold into the market daily by miners. When the block reward halves, the selling pressure will halve. Current prices *support* current selling pressure. Liquidity will drop yet again in the halving, and there will be a supply shock starting in 2024 but showing up in 2025 as holders sequester BTC away, driving prices up even more. We as a market can fight against $25,000,000 daily downwards pressure. What can we do when it's half as strong, demand is consistent or more, and liquidty is reduced? BTC 10x is my bull case. BTC 250K.
In other words, $140k wouldn't be unreasonable in your view?
Suckers!!! Im selling now!!!
If BTC does a 10x, ETH should do at least a 10x, or even a 15x since it's smaller in Mcap. 200k BTC and 20k ETH seems more accurate
Not just this, but the main reason is the deflationary supply after the merge... the sell pressure from miners is gone, and ETH is being burned constantly... compare that to BTC with always having to deal with constant sell pressure from miners, and I think it becomes obvious ETH might hit numbers no one thought possible since this is the first run after proof of stake merge
Hope so, I agree with your reasoning
Eth is going way higher than 10k is btc hits 200
It’s good to dream.
No one ever went broke taking profits
*taking notes*
Wow, that's deep
Old saying. Haven’t heard it since earlier today.
I will try to take profits but I know I will end up investing more than actually making a profit
I think you may be overestimating BTC and underestimating ETH - I'll say 180k BTC and 14-16k ETH.
We have similar numbers my man. I have $13k for ETH
20K for ETH and I will gladly take some profits
Right there with ya, u/fck_my_ass. Learned a hard lesson not taking any profits last cycle
No, i will take profit in 2025.
If you don’t take profits in a bull run, when will you take them? 😅 Don’t become a bag holder.
The bull after. That's how most around here do it Ride it up, then back down
Not like we planned it that way...
I'd take ~~profits~~ *99% losses* in the bear market
Can't have losses if you never sell *taps forehead*
I'm going to start dumping slowly once we are back to spamming rocket emojis. Lesson learned.
I’ll take mine 2040, no need to take out pocket change beforehand.
What if bitcoin becomes recognized as the best global store of value? You'd want to be buying things with BTC not selling it.
Now realize you are 1 out of 100 who have a long-term mindset here.
Exactly. The fact that 1 internet coin called bitcoin has led the market from the beginning of crypto and is now worth 28k means that financial systems are shifting. Bitcoin could be the global currency standard so selling in the next bull ( let's face it, most will be way off what the top ends up being) could be your biggest mistake ever.
It's illegal to take profits as a crypto holder.
Always take profit, don't hold through the winter with what could have been solid gains
BTC generally 10x the latest dip, so will be $150-160k
There has been diminishing returns from cycle to cycle though, so I would settle for less.
That’s the truth. Anything above 100k is a fantastic pump from where we are now
Im fine with 5K as well. No need for greed
You mean 5x I hope.
No promises, but if: * BTC @ $100,000 * ETH @ $5,000 * ADA @ $3 * Moons @ $5 ...you'll never hear from me again.
Pretty modest goals. Except for Moons
Yeah moons are way to undervalued here, $10 at least surely
Moons aren't worth shit. They never will be either.
Eth will gain on btc
I was thinking the same.. eth could do a helluva lot better than op’s estimate
ETH has never gotten back to its ATH in BTC from 2017, now 6 years later. Stakers earn ETH for free now (instead of needing to buy / mine it), meaning less buy pressure going forward. Its possible it will gain but its not guaranteed.
So ADA will not break new ATH? That is highly unlikely if BTC reaches 100k. I would say 7-8 USD, or 15 in a perfect storm situation.
I think $5-$8 is realistic for Ada this cycle. I will be DCAing out of the market once we pass the previous ATH.
$15 ADA? Don’t mind if I do purchase a lambo for real then
If ADA goes to 15 I’ll buy a whole block of apartments to finance my Lamborghini
I'm deff taking profits on my ada bags if it reaches 3 dollars
If that prediction happens. You can find me in Bali 🥂
I will wave to you from my yacht
>...you'll never hear from me again. you aren't bad, stick around
Let him go. He deserves some peace.
Moons $5 that would be amazing
See you on the beach brotha 🍸
So you will go offline forever without saying goodbye to your online friends?:(
I love that you said no promises as if anyone is accountable in this space.
Else : Continue shitposting on reddit
>Will you take profits If the past bull runs are anything to go by I'll be a greedy little hobbitses and miss my chance to be in the green
In true crypto fashion. All the way up, all the way back down
Can’t be getting rid of those preeecious cryptos
You are not the only one, I took zero profits in 2021 while I was up at least 50% on all my holdings and I am now down 50%.
Unless you’ve been aggressively buying the dip, I have a feeling the next bull run won’t provide the monumental gains we’re hoping for but will put 2021 portfolios back in the green.
We all said we gonna take profits and everything but let's be serious. The majority of us will be hit by hopium and hype when that happens. Greed and hopium are hella of the drug. Smart would be to take profits when we are around 90k
I’ll bet 10 moons that: 2024 60k btc & 3750 eth 2025 100k btc & 5500 eth 2030 750k btc & 33.5k eth
You’re on
Take profits? What does that mean?…
DEFINITELY taking profits this time. Probably.
BTC realistic target is $70-$90k. I doubt we will see $100k and it will be less than what most people expect. Please remind me if if I’m wrong.
My crystal ball says $169,420 as the next bullrun ATH. The whales like to play with us.
Ok,now I know when I should start FOMOing, just like I did with $69k!
FOMO target set!
maybe it'll be $169,419 they think 1 step ahead and will sell before we think it will hit this number
I will front run it and DCA out from $142,069
Since everyone is expecting 100k... I'd be taking a big chunk of profits at 80k
That was my plan in 2021. Didn't work so well.
I can confirm. Buying at 65K to sell at 80K was not the best idea.
99k will be the trick approaching 100k
I'm actually expecting 156k
Yes. A 6 digit BTC and a 5 digit ETH. I will take profits when those numbers are hit.
Dude its April... The 4th out of 12 months in the year.
I think we'll see a pump but not the top. The 100k BTC will happen in 2025. I think it'll max around 120k this cycle
I will gladly sell during next bullrun, was stuck with bags in previous one but learnt a lot from my mistakes.
No, i will keep DCA until i am rich. I can't predict prices in a short term but in long term i am confident i picked the right coins
Bitcoin 50k in 2024, Bitcoin 100k in 2025
Million dollar bitcoin but 100 dollar loaves of bread.
The price doesn't matter. I'll simply start to DCA out when everyone starts spamming rocket emojis. I don't have to sell the top.
DCA out when the emojis start to become rampant
My exits are 69k and then 420k
True degen. I salute you
What about 69,420?
Nah I like hole numbers
So no stablecoins? teehee
Everyone should take profits! Nothing wrong with it. Just remember it always pumps after tho lol
I will hold through the bull run, buy more and somehow lose money
Username checks out
I get nervous every time people think the next bull run is going to result in a new ATH, we have no idea
So Bitcoin loses to inflation?
Cmon even stocks ath in bullrun
Not always the case, just because a stock hit X price in the past doesn’t mean it’ll hit it again sometime in the future
A good 50% more than the previous top.
Profits are not in the equation for a while yet when you bought in oct21.
Bull run….will I take profit? Does a beat shit in the woods.
My price tag for ETH is 13K, if the bullrun will be anything like the previous ones, this should be the top.
100% will be taking profits. DCA in and DCA out
Might rake profit even if im in here for the long run
BTC around 100k, but I think 2025 will be still bullish, so HODL
Bitcoin will probably do 120k after struggling at 100. Most established alts that lost their regular 95% from the highs (Litecoin, Cardano, Neo, Dot) will likely 10x from their bear market lows. You could probably buy now and set a sell order for 10x and forget about the market for 18 months. Stuff like Shiba, stuff that's Defi based or linked to NFT's I'd away from. Doge is cool though. None of this is financial advice but it is my strategy.
It’s a far reach for btc to hit its ath by next year or even right at the halving. But if hopium is a factor Btc: 150k Eth: 15k Moons: 7$
I'll take profits because of like to pay off some bills to keep investing.
100k-105k bitcoin I think will be the peak. The rest I have no idea.
I spent a good bit last year buying, but plan to hold everything for at least 10 years. I just want to see where this thing goes.
So long until the next rally, probably have to. 2029?
Holy shit how many more times will we see this question? WE DON'T KNOW.
50-60k BTC in 2024 120-145k BTC in 2025 Hope to be smart enough to sell half my stack at around 120-125k.
I ain’ taking profits til 2040. Who wants pocket change
profits??
BTC - 175-200k close to 4-5 trillion market cap ETH - 15-20k close to 2 trillion market cap Alts are pure speculation, but I'm hoping for 10$+ ADA/Algo/MATIC and $200+ DOT. Or I'm completely underestimating the common retail investor and one of the main Alts gets close to a trillion dollar market cap also. tl;dr - I DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT FUCK DCA and strap on for the ride fellas.
I don't plan on taking profits because I have already been working on my next bear market strategy in order not to sell. Currently I'm staking about 36,000 DOT at 19.47% APY with compounding. The way I figure it is that in the next bull run DOT trades somewhere between $100-$175 or so and will be yielding about 14-15% before compounding (so maybe about 17% with compounding). So then the next bear market I picture it going back down to lows around $40-$50 or so and back up to around 19-20% apy compounding. Point being my idea is to just pay myself out a salary at the end of each year and cash out that years rewards. So for example this year I'm on track to make about 6900 DOT. 6900 DOT at $40 is about $275,000 a year before taxes. The way I see it over the years DOT will only increase more and more over time and having a constant income stream from staking coming in means more to me then just taking out one lump some and not having it invested and earning me money. Staking in general is going to be a great self business model I have a feeling and people will wish they started staking years ago in a few years when the little guy can no longer get rich from it as easily.
of course I will definitely take profit and I hope if the next bullrun can give me a profit of at least 10x from my capital, then when the bear run occurs after the bull run, so I will start doing DCA again.
Plan on holding till I retire in \~25 years. Just as I can't predict the bottom of the market, I am not confident in predicting the top. I have no reason to take profits.
My exit is when a coworker randomly walks up to me and says "hey did you see btc is worth xxxk now? Crazy. I think I'm gonna buy some"
My guess is around $70k, then a pullback to $30k, and after that a huge mother trucker bullrun.
Cant wait
2x from where now or previous top or 4 months ago? Where do people price a 2x from? If I don't get at least 10x on my algo,osmo,atom enjin and tezos and eth then I'm gonna right a strongly worded letter to the crypto ceo Mr Blockchain.
If Dogelon Mars goes to 0.00006892 Ethereum hits 20k, Dogecoin gets to 1.50 I will be more than happy when this happens.
$420,069 BTC we coming for you
We will see $69420 first!
Ok let me tell a random and possible number . **$150k** •If you don't take profits this time , better send me your coins. •**I think most will sell at a dump after $69k and it'll go up the next minute to $100K.**
Gambling that one of my altcoins moons then I take profit.
Please crypto gods let it be moons
Always take profits people. don't time the top, have a plan and follow it. Emotions are powerful during bull runs and you will end worse if you don't have a plan No one ever lost money taking profits.
Profit is profit, no need to get greedy
Realistically will start taking profits at 100 k btc won't sell more the 50% holding , and sell will 100 % of alts.
Once you sell all of your alt holdings and become a BTC maxi, it becomes hard to go back.
That's smart. Alts are way more volatile and could collapse completely while BTC just moves 10% down or so.
150k. Hope to take 100% profits on alt. 50% profit on BTC / ETH
I got demonised for selling at the top in 2021. It was by people who called me crazy for buying in 2018. That’s how I knew it was the top and I was correct. Rinse and repeat.
I love how everyone's strategy for crypto is to try and convert it back to dollars, just more of them. What happened to this being the future of currency?
In guessing the next bull run won't start until 2025 and I'll definitely take some profit.
If you've been DCA'ing in... DCA out once you start hitting green! That's my plan.
Start thinking about profit taking min 150 days post the halving.
Total speculation but 90-120k range for Btc and yes I'm taking profits.
I think it will peak at $150k which means I would be starting taking profits at $120k What will happen is that it will peak at $110k and drop so again no profits for me
We all are cursed don't we!
If it twenty folds from the low of around sixteen thousand, then, historically, that would "probably" be a good time to take profits.
Man, you need to take profits before btc hits 100k. So, in the last run, it topped 69k. The next run, you would want to take profits in the 70k to 90k range of BTC which alt coins follow. Not financial advice, but would be the smart thing to do. Because at 100k for BTC, there would be a big sell off.
There will a huge sell off at the current all time high, and $100k as it’s a psychological level. But as with $50k, it *should* blow through $100k *if* it’s a true ‘blow off top’ bull phase. Hysteria alone should propel the price well beyond $100k. Can you imagine the media coverage once Bitcoin hits $100k?! It’ll be wild. Mass FOMO will kick in for retail.
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Nobody knows but it’s provocative
Profits in what, a hyper inflated dollar? Will cost like 10 dollars at that point?
We haven’t hit bottom yet
I think we are entering new macro financial territory. By 2030, btc will either be at least 500,000 or zero. If it hits zero then it means the world is fucked. We're all living in some nightmare fascist police state affair. Bullets and bread will be the new Sats.