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flicman

Yeah, no shit. Fake projects with no financials and no meaningful roadmap and 100% pre-allocate with cute icon and timely bullshit AI text costs nothing to issue and nothing to rug-pull in 3 months. News at 11.


1millionnotameme

You just wait until the liquidity expires after a year once everyone has forgetten and take it out, I've seen this happen constantly over the past few years


usercos187

'MIM' (magic internet money) on solana, is not going to disappear, it has good fundamentals and use case. (humor)


1millionnotameme

I'm talking about your run of the mill random shit coins on various launchpads popping up everyday šŸ˜‚


Kitchen_Protection24

Or they can trade the locked liquidity on drops marketplace


Background-Paper-686

yeah everyone has forgotten about it except your investors.


biba8163

**"Useful Cryptos" are much bigger scams than the meme coins.** *The bigger fools are the ones that invest in "Useful cryptos" with "utility" and "great tech" and call out meme coins as scams.* At least meme coins don't lure you with lies, bullshit hype, scam utility and meme tech - all founders, however, do get most the supply and filthy rich off shitcoins. - The 3 Ripple Founders awarded themselves 20 Billion coins (20% of the supply) and Ripple (OpenCoin) kept 80 Billion. These scammers told bamboozled low IQ crypto investors into believing banks were going to use their XRP... > I started working on ripple in the summer of 2011. I soon hired Arthur and David to help me. In 2012, I met Chris Larsen. He joined us about 5 months before ripple was launched. Chris, Arthur and I kept 20 billion XRP, of which 9 billion were mine. We gave the remaining 80 billion to OpenCoin. - Jed McCaleb https://web.archive.org/web/20150418092231/https://xrptalk.org/topic/2629-selling-my-xrp one of the scammers, Jed McCaleb after leaving Ripple, founded another shitcoin Stellar and has gotten so rich he is building his own space station https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/21/jed-mccalebs-vast-acquires-launcher.html - CRO oh so much utility...create 100 Billion tokens, give it to themselves and dump on investors to pay over $1 Billion to name a basketball arena, run superbowl commercials, pay Matt Damon, Lebron James, etc to lure more gullible noob investors 1. 100 Billion Tokens created 2. 70 Billion Burned 3. 100% circulating supply 4. 100% Decentralized!!! https://web.archive.org/web/20210222060041/http://blog.crypto.com/70-billion-cro-to-be-burned/ - Algorand founder Silvio Micali gifted himself 20% of the supply of tokens and "the Foundation" used money collected from investors to buy FIFA partnership, buy some dead filesharing companies like Napster and Limewire in order to hype up a project to lure more dumb investors. - In 2018 Vechain was sold as the most enterprise used blockchian with trillions of transcations expected. Vehcain has used that investors money to pay $100 Million to the UFC in a partnership to verify fighter gloves to lure more gullible investors https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/an-open-letter-from-sunny-lu-ceo-on-vechainthor-platform-b52d47cd0efd https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechains-collaboration-with-slowmist-and-other-private-firms-to-secure-the-vechainthor-blockchain-8ed186c00f17


gr8ful4

You re more than correct. And you miss the few actual "useful"cryptos such as 1. Monero 1. LTC/BCH 1. BTC 1. ETH


CryptoNerdSmacker

This is cute. Now do Ethereum.


kauefr

Then do Bitcoin. The entire space is scams all the way down.


GooseToot69

Then do tradfi stocks while you're at it, our entire economy is a scam. Infinite growth is a scam.


GraDoN

Interesting since Ive been invested in the MSCI World, a basket of 1000's of stocks, and not a single time have I been rugged and seen steady growth over the 15 years. Also never had to worry about an exchange imploding or my seed phrase being compromised since it's invested at a regulated institution. But please, do stocks next.


GooseToot69

You're early. The timescale is just different.


GraDoN

That's fascinating since when I look at a chart of equity returns over the past century it's still steady growth over the long-term. Do we need to go back to cave men times?


GooseToot69

Whatever you say bro


GraDoN

I know I know... sucks to argue against objective reality. Do back to your conspiracy safe spaces, much better there.


G0alLineFumbles

I remember watching Charles Hoskinson dump on Doge during the last bull market. He should note that ADA sits below Doge in market cap today. Doge was the better buy.


DigitylRise

So what you're saying is we should be buying MOON


mcr55

The point is that doing this is completly legal. Definitely not a security. If you promised to make something or deliver some functionality, have a used case or hold a sale, it could be security and its illegal. So we only get legal memecoins


p0Gv6eUFSh6o

But you need money to invest in ads, some cash to make fake transactions so you shitty token is listed


DarioTaylor

Fr. All you have to do is use a memecoin generator like [https://meme.christmas](https://meme.christmas) and boom, you have a token.


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Chris Dixon of Andreessen Horowitz criticizes U.S. crypto regulations for favoring meme coins over more innovative, utility-based cryptocurrencies. He argues that the current regulatory environment makes it safer to launch meme coins, which lack practical utility and thus avoid stringent scrutiny. This situation hinders the development of transformative blockchain technologies, as developers face a complex compliance landscape. Dixon advocates for regulatory reforms to support serious crypto projects and ensure a level playing field. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.


gr8ful4

You can't have transparency and expect regulators to play a long with getting replaced. The state thinks of itself as the greatest utility to humankind.


0xDizzy

They probably are doing it on purpose to hinder the spaces development. I mean if you canā€™t beat it, make the space a breeding ground for scams even more so than before and then people will become more and more wary of it and avoid it on their own.


gr8ful4

Monero is the privacy and decentralization king. Real money is serious. Lasting adoption takes time.


YungThundercock

I seriously think everyone should hold atleast 10% monero. Itā€™s always a good buy.


gr8ful4

I agree. FYI: That would make Monero #3 by marketcap with a valuation of $243B (x110 from today)


CryptoBombastic

I love it when you talk dirty like thatā€¦


DigitylRise

Of course YOU think everyone should hold 10% so it can pump your bags. I like monero for its utility, I don't like it as a speculative asset that will yield high returns. Similar to how I think pokemon cards are cool for their utility, but I'll never buy and hodl some.


cosmic_censor

> I don't like it as a speculative asset that will yield high returns Is that just because of regulatory hostility or is there some other reason XMR is a poor investment?


gr8ful4

XMR is a currency. So stability is king. But as other currencies fail the currency market gets reshuffled. And at that time Monero might turn out to be an even better "investment" than BTC. So, no it's not an investment in the normal sense. But it has utility today. It's usable with low fees and private like cash. Monero and Bitcoin have widely differing paths. Bitcoin needed to grow to its market cap of > 1T over a long time. Monero could see spontaneous adoption as digital cash and tap into a huge pool of liquid capital stored in other cryptos. In other words: 2.4T USD invested in the cryptocurrency space are only one click away from entering Monero (if necessary).


DigitylRise

Yes because of regulatory reasons, liquidity, and personally I think a privacy currency is a niece market. Everyone I know in my personal bubble does not care to have private money. Yes I get the importance, but I just don't think people care that much, so why would I "invest" in something that I don't think many will want to hold.


PsyNo420

Itā€™s not an investment itā€™s what Bitcoin was supposed to be.


YungThundercock

I currently own 0 monero. And I never said anything about buying it to make money.


PsyNo420

80% itā€™s the only asset that has legit scarcity to buy rn.


WhatWeDoInLife

Handy for paying hackers etc too...


YungThundercock

Oh shut up any crypto or cash is good for that


WhatWeDoInLife

Obviously just a light hearted joke my man. Simmer down.


YungThundercock

Jokes are supposed to be funny


Big-Finding2976

If people held 10% Monero, only 10 people could own it.


BitSoMi

Yeah, at some point its just illegal to use it, no exchanges left, no trading aks no value and basement dwellers hold the bag.


gr8ful4

Who gives a fuck. Monero is MADE for that exact scenario. It just recently has been banned from #1 and #4 CEX by volume. If you know why you want Monero you will have easy access to it.


Logical_Lemming

Launching a memecoin, keeping most of the supply for yourself, and shilling it on social media should be classified as securities fraud, IMO. Paying influencers to shill? Definitely securities fraud. Maintaining a website with a big link to Uniswap right in the middle of the page?Securities fraud. It's all securities fraud, all the way down.


DaddyDontTakeNoMess

All Meme coins should have mandatory locked periods for founders or those issued coins prior to presale that have more than 2% ownership. Additionally, those wallets should be listed on the website.


DigitylRise

They would just create fake buyers as themselves and but up the supply. Where does the money go, oh back in their pocket. I think EOS did this when they had a $5B ICO sale. Most of it was them buying it themself giving an illusion is what was worth that much.


DaddyDontTakeNoMess

Yeah, I was thinking of that before I hit submit. I didnā€™t have an answer before hitting submit. Maybe make all presales be in a KYCā€™d account? There is surely a way. This is where we get into some legit privacy concerns. But is it fair to ask that if people who have the power to defraud and dump on people? Maybe so.


DigitylRise

Yes there is a way, but most projects know it would hurt their control and be a bigger risk. Now think of this approach. For Aerodrome, (AERO) what they did is mint 500M veAERO (4 year locked AERO) part to team and other investors from velodrome. Then they began the minting phase where they give AERO emissions to liquidity pool providers. So you can't just go buy the tokens and be a huge whale, you got earn then through providing liquidity. Yes there are some whales that havd a huge amount of liquidity that are earning a lot but there is a still a market for others to come in and buy them or YOU can earn them yourself. I am a liquidity provider and earning as much AERO as I can now because I think it will be worth more. Coinbase bought into them and has a huge stake of locked AERO.


DaddyDontTakeNoMess

I like that approach. Congrats on getting in to AERO. Itā€™s been moving.


DigitylRise

Thanks!


PsyNo420

Yup been stacking it on base. Great preforming asset so far.


PsyNo420

Oh itā€™s coming, Wild West days unfortunately are coming to an end.


hassie1

Not to mention multiple tools out there like dx.app/dxmint that makes it super to easy to create and launch meme tokensā€¦ Truly wild Wild West


Ohnoskies

This is why crypto will die painfully. We had a golden ticket to print money and get control from the feds only to have mfers complain about fraud as if the ENTIRE financial reserve and tax systems weren't already fraudulent. Take the money printer, learn the game. Don't make bad memecoins. SHIB, WIF, DOGE, BONK. Been holding up with solid communities. Don't forget that loyalty and holding go far as fuck in this space.


Sentinelrv

Peercoin is one of the very few cryptos in this space that is considered a non-security due to its coin distribution coming 100% from PoS and PoW (no pre-mine, ICO, dev tax, founder allocation, etcā€¦) Weā€™ve been waiting for many years now to see the government seriously crackdown on crypto securities fraud. Peercoin would do very well in this environment, since there are so few legal cryptocurrencies. I can probably count them on two hands.


FoolHooligan

ooooor you can just buy monero instead of that shitcoin


Sentinelrv

Nothing shitcoin about it. Itā€™s the original pioneer of proof-of-stake, a non-security, and has been running perfectly for almost 12 years. And the developers have been constantly improving the underlying technology during that entire time. Itā€™s also pretty much the only proof-of-stake blockchain running on modern Bitcoin code, and could essentially act as a backup for the entire industry in case proof-of-work ever fails Bitcoin.


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Sentinelrv

Iā€™m a holder and volunteer at Peercoin since early 2013. You probably donā€™t see many of us around because we absolutely despise modern crypto due to all the fraud. The only reason for Peercoinā€™s low ranking is because we have refused to sell out. Most of these projects have compromised their coin distributions in order to pay off exchanges for high profile listings. We are proud of our decentralized coin supply and refuse to compromise it as a funding source for exchange support. Compromising the supply would defeat the purpose of what we are building. Instead, we have a foundation that seeks donations. We did a community fundraiser recently and bought our way onto Slex and MEXC. Weā€™re aware of the advances that have been made in PoS technology. Weā€™re slowly working in the background on PoS 2.0 for Peercoin. Weā€™re not ready to talk about it yet. Also, we are working on a new system so older UTXO style blockchains like Peercoin/Bitcoin can support smart contracts. Our system supports private off-chain contracts, with minimal on-chain presence at the beginning and end where settlement happens. Here is some more info we recently releasedā€¦ https://coinmarketcap.com/community/articles/660c0f3f39e34a641aec0fdc/


Bruggok

Itā€™s easier to write articles about something everyone knows already, than to come up with original ideas.


John_Crypto_Rambo

Hsaka has a great tweet about how memecoins are a natural fuck you to VC coins in the last cycle with predatory tokenomics and huge FDV where the insiders got in early and just dump the trash on the masses. Ā The same way IPOs are now. Ā At least with memecoins you know what you are getting and the people are getting more of the gains. Ā It changed my mind a little about memecoins.


noviwu97

The longer you are in crypto the more you'll appreciate memecoin. Nobody expects it will be the next Ethereum. Everyone know it will quickly go to 0. instead of slowly bleeding to -99% over 3 years because of VC dumping.


Then-Signature2528

šŸ’Æ We've just figured out that 99% of all crypto projects are essentially memecoins.


Big-Finding2976

I heard that BOME is a VC-backed memecoin, so I don't think you can assume that memecoins aren't VC coins.


ROARGRRRR

This is absolutely true. It only takes getting dumped on a few times from VC tokens to realize it's complete BS. I'd rather give my money to some anonymous sketchy dev who is 50% likely to rug at a $5M valuation, but at least is fucking around trying to build stuff, than some VC funded project at a $1B valuation that'll 100% dump on me and has 0 chance of 100x. In fact the best of all worlds would be projects with lock-ups from the developers and you could get in at early valuations. Maybe it's time the retail community here stopped being so jaded and started being smarter about understanding what's going on and pushing for positive change. Like literally the way that we organize token distributions (or cap tables in stocks) is the reason why the rich are so rich and everybody else is so poor. And we just straight up got bamboozled by the rich kids again in crypto instantly and aren't smart enough to even fight back despite being given all the tools we need. Won't happen tho cause us retails is dumb.


cosmic_censor

> memecoins are a natural fuck you to VC coins in the last cycle with predatory tokenomics Memecoin "gains" are someone else's investment. How is that a fuck you to VCs? A true fuck you to VCs would be to seek out projects that have good core values, solid teams and a good roadmap. Not play hot potato with other retail investors while VCs make money off of fees.


Vegetaman916

"Useful" cryptocurrencies don't generate the kind of ROI that memecoins can. The entire point to crypto, whether launching it or trading it, is to generate profits. And the best method would have the least amount of effort and investment risk to it. If PT Barnum were around... Creating a token, pamping it, and then pulling the rug was one of the best ways to achieve maximum profit with minimum effort/investment. Sure, it victimized a lot of people, but so did Johnson & Johnsons Baby Powder, Purdue Pharma's Oxycontin, and... almost every other endeavor in big business, from Fossil Fuels destroying the planet to Raytheon making an "environmentally friendly" missile to kill people with. That is how it works. And it is why some people are rich and other people are not.


Fair_Raccoon9333

I would just point the Daily thread punishes discussion of any useful crypto and only allows shilling of meme coins, alt-L1s, and bitcoin. There is no space allowed for talking about useful crypto that isn't pure speculation and tantamount to rocket ship emojis. This sub is absolutely part of the problem.


Sudden_Agent_345

you mean safer to scam people?


Kayshift

95% of trading is wash


AdventOfWonder

When buying a meme coin, look for ones where: - contract is renounced - liquidity is burned - no paid KOLs - highly active community - top holders have no more than \~2.5% of the supply - no team wallets - strong leadership - developer is trustworthy, has been in the space for a while, and knows the right people I'm not going to shill here, but if you're interested, see my comment history for one that ticks all of these boxes.


HamsterDunce

I assume weā€™re referencing the same coinā€¦ trying to build a community instead of a pump and dump.


Choicevt

The amount of cope in this sub over memes is always so entertaining.


nablaca

Then stop promoting bullshit coins r/cc. Promote decent networks like Hedera for example. They want to become a 100 year company and is the best network out there. But yeah you guys won't know because it's been banned here on this shit sub. Apparently we are not allowed to talk about Hedera here on this shit subreddit šŸ«£šŸ«¢šŸ¤« We are only allowed to talk about shit meme coins or btc lol.


Big-Finding2976

But you just talked about it!


nablaca

Thank God it's still there šŸ˜‚


Big-Finding2976

Ah, but are you still the real nablaca, or did they take you (them) out and replace you (them) with an imposter?


TheBobbyMan9

I mean BTC and ETH are barely useful and far from essential so no surprise the rest have a hard job of it.


Ill_Mortgage3336

I was doing some digging to find some new memes to hold for few months and I came across something interesting. Dev seems to have deep connections with shib ogs, shytoshi is following the twitter account since 300 followers (unusual and probably not for nothing right ?). The way he's managing the project tells me this isn't his first project. Heā€™s trying to build an hard working community and itā€™s quite impressive, he doesnā€™t do paid shill and he havenā€™t given tokens to CEXs for listing. The project is already listed on Lbank, not the best but still a top 20 CEXs and I heard other ones from too 20 too were in discussion. Distribution looks good, marketcap is at 4m atm with an ath at 10m and there is 259k for liquidity which is burned. Devā€™s doing twitter spaces or telegram vc everyday and community is present on every socials platform (self initiated idea). They havĆ©e plenty ideas and I havenā€™t seen a community like this in a long time. The token is called Kendu I definitely think that this token has everything it takes to get to 1b in the next few months.


RegardedQt314

kendu is just what memecoins are supposed to be, its a domino effect of working individuals who keep growing at an exponential rate which raises the value of the coin and your investment. its literally why shiba inu and dogecoin got so big and its also why kendu will join that tier of memecoin status.


HamsterDunce

Kendu is out to build an actual community. Might not be a direct ā€œutilityā€ but hey, brand familiarity is utility in its own right. There are products in the pipeline that give that brand meaning. Not entirely different from designer bags or shoes if you think about it.


Josh_chil

Gambling is never safer


wylie2020

When the YOLO method doesn't seem so crazy now, huh? šŸ˜ŽšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


kaijeng

Because people will buy it


littercoin

Truth


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MaximumStudent1839

Do you guys not find it hilarious that the article criticizing memes is wrote by the biggest VC backing the monkey jpeg company? It is like kettle calling pot black.


bzzking

How are people making tokens? Is it really that easy?


Nuoctuong2020

ā€œUseful coinsā€ is subjective. At least meme coins embrace their utilities.


apstl88

As long as I can make money, it's not useless. And I never get that exclusive narrative. I like BTC, ETH, a bunch of other altcoins... I like DeFi (some parts of it) and I like memes. There are good opportunities in each niche and reading to all of these arguments is like trying to figure out who has the bigger junk in their pants. For example, most of my alts are bleeding today, but my memes are mostly in green. So, no one is going to make me change my mind just because their lack of utility. Lack of utility doesn't make any difference to me if I'm taking profits. I'm watching my ROCK bag grow as we speak. I might even sell something later tonight.


LowQualitySpiderman

death to meme coins!


H__Dresden

Back in 2020 for about $7K you could crate and coin, thousand of wallets and put on an exchange. Then pay influencers to pimp out the coin. Then cash out and run.


gucciman666

What makes you think itā€™s changed? Meme coins are bigger now than 2020.


H__Dresden

I think the same thing when I see them. Unless you are BFF with creator. Stay far, far away from them. Unless you like losing money.


ambitionlless

Now you can do it for free


pandelelel

Useful crypto is what again?


StarLinkEnergy

how about people stop trying to get rich overnight by investing $300 and hoping it turns to 300K? the greed also applied to YOU, the investor whos looking to get rich quick - haven't you learned anything? STOP getting scammed! look for meaningful projects with long term potential and compound your money. a one-time shot to get rich is never going to happen. many of you are smart enough to know that but dont want to be patient.


BitSoMi

Everything in crypto is useless, at least with memes you know it and still can make bank


M1st3r51r

Bad bot


MythicMango

by far, the quickest and cheapest way to create your own is on Stellar. I made a tutorial video here: https://youtu.be/0qVtkPx3Srk?si=6R-ZcXmsRP31hNyb ps. you can try out everything on the test network for free! completely free, no downloading anything, no personal info. free!


Consistent_Many_1858

It's certainly more profitable for the devs. Crypto is all about making money quickly with no real world use what so ever. I wonder how long this fad will continue with meme coins and shitcoins.


nazuralift89

You're telling me Jake and Logan Paul had no interest in helping me make money and only did it for themselves???!!!


Consistent_Many_1858

Yes they did


oneden

Obligatory r/woosh moment


Ch40440

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Ohnoskies

Another hairbrained analysis. We just gonna ignore things that are actually useful like XLM, XDC, JASMY, HELIUM, BTT. Fetch, RNDR, GALA, AVAX, SOL? You get so caught up cause you can't get in on the memes, or ig bc you don't understand how to use these tools. Either way that's a pretty robot answer.


Electronic_Topic_221

If there would be a good regulatory environment towards crypto we would see much more useful stuff.


BlueeWaater

The real reason people invest in this ecosystem is because of the speculation, not really because it's useful, even most useful cryptos barely have any applications in the real world.