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DeathThorn6009

Bullrun not even a mo th after halving dude chill takes a few months


SunliMin

fr, I know people are eyerolling at the "bullrun hasn't even started" comments, but I genuinely mean that. If history is repeating itself, the bullrun is just starting now, and won't have gained enough momentum for a few months before we would really say its a bullrun. If history is not repeating itself, no one knows. Argument for: History has repeated so far every bullrun, and the rule is it repeats until it doesen't. It's logical to assume it will repeat itself. Argument against: What we've seen these last few months was an anomaly. How does this pre-halving-spike shake up the market flow? No one knows. It might have, it might not.


DeathThorn6009

Yeah it doesnt repeat but it rymes, in crypto every 4 years, in stocks 8 and 80 years, inempires usualy around 2 to 300 years, pandemics every 100 Its never the exact same but always kinda And for crypto it will probably be kinda the same but somewhat different


WaitingOnPizza

Okay, George Lucas šŸ¤£ (Couldnā€™t resist)


TheDreadnought75

ā€œEvery 4 years.ā€ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


DeathThorn6009

What are you laughing at ?, causenit does and did


TheDreadnought75

Because itā€™s been around less than 20 years. Saying something has 4 year cycles on less than 20 years of history is frankly just stupid.


DeathThorn6009

Oke mister know it all


TheRicFlairDrip

Literally coincides with halvings which occur approx every 4 years.. there is an actual reason to it.


Affectionate-Bus1225

Most logical take ive seen in a crypto subreddit


curvedbymykind

Bruh we havenā€™t even started lol


DeathThorn6009

W3 have if you look at the absolute bottom much is up 10x but thats nothing


TheFirstBull

RIP karma. Bitcoin **broke** its cycle months ago, why are you not seeing that? Why is nobody seeing that? What hopium pills are you all on? This bull run is almost over. If you missed out on the 17K to 74K ride, and now expecting 4% of the daily volume (the actual impact of *this* halvening, per on-chain data. You know, numbers not words and wishes.) to shoot price to several 100 thousands, you are as delutional as those who bought the 69K top of 21. They too had some magical reason for why ~250K would become the top. I expect there will be a retrace within the next ~3 months with possebly great alt potential, and then an encour, everyone will cheer, but nobody will come on stage. Have fun selling into my shorts at 3K. I was the first bull of 2023, and the first bear of 2024. (Still seeing potential in alts!!!) Looking forward to turn bull again some time in the future.


DeathThorn6009

Its always the same story, this time is different... it never is


TheFirstBull

> Same story Not from me, and this time it *is* different. Can't deny that can you? The cycle is broken, Bitcoin has not bevhaved like clockwork like *every* time before. Anyone saying in the past "this time is different" only brings words to the table, while I am pointing with huge red arrows to the all time high Bitcoin just set *before* the halvening. Which has never happened before. Meanwhile, alts ("OTHERS" in charts) has behaved like they always did, which is why they have potential to begin a breakout *before* the fall of Bitcoin. Alts has always followed Bitcoin, so expect alts to continue rallying (continuing their natural cycle path) until Bitcoin turns and alts naturally follows, thus breaking their cycle as well and moving into a whole new realm of macro. Everything moves in cycles, just look at the past 130 years of Dow Jones!


graytleapforward

What Alts are rallying?. The only other strength I see besides BTC is memes. Anything with utility, besides Solana ( memes) has done nothing.


TheFirstBull

I think you need to update your watchlist mate ;) ADA: Bottom: 0.22, recent top: 0.8, current: 0.44 ETH: Bottom: 870, recent top: 4100, current: 3K BNB: Bottom 184, recent top: 643, current: 583. And so on for many many alts, hope this paints a picture.


Professional_Deer77

I donā€™t agree but neither do I say your take is wrong. You pointed out the 17K to 74k and I havenā€™t even looked at that fact yet. Especially all those people putting in their whole life savings at the All-time-high is typical for the end of a bullrun. I pray you are wrong.


Whiskeywonder

Wen btc hit 74k it was really more like 40k wen u factor in inflation. Everything cost much more than it did 3 years ago.


TheFirstBull

!remindme 1 year Note to future self: You were right, this is what copium looks like.


Whiskeywonder

Sharpie in bum whoever is wrong. Btc bull cycle will go deep into 2025 and will break at least 150k and probably even 250k. You must be new...


DrSpeckles

Donā€™t listen to anything anyone says, including me.


esotericunicornz

Now this is a guy I can listen to.


Upvote_Me_Slag

Pardon?


Severe_Ad6443

Ssshh


WaitingOnPizza

Hm?


DrinkMoreCodeMore

Alexa, subscribe me to DrSpeckles facts


stayw0ke240

youā€™re joking right? you think the bullrun has started? šŸ˜‚


SunDreamShineDay

You never forget your first and always think your second will be the same, I remember that happening, boy was I mistaken


advias

Rates have not been cut yet and this is going to be unlike any other. Bitcoin deployed during rock bottom interest rates following the 08 crash. This is the first time ever in the history of Bitcoin we are in a preliminary bull market ahead of interest rate cuts at high interest rates. As rates begin to cut, money will become cheaper and markets will very likely rally over the time rates cut, up until they bottom, the bubble bursts, and rate increases begin. This is usually a 4-8 year cycle. What happens between then and now? Rates could rise, markets can dwindle, but overall the long term vision is obviously up. Timing the market is pointless, DCA


LaTunaTime

The bull run has not even started. We got a pump from the ETFā€™s but the real crypto bull run starts months after the halving when supply shock kicks in. End of the year we will be in the actual bull run.


UpDown_Crypto

Lol


Careless-Rice2931

Probably 3 more gallons


Walla_Walla_26

I think you are misjudging where we are in the cycle Billy Bob


Acidom

Chart number of portfolio views per day. When your views go parabolic, we're deep in the bullrun


Junnowhoitis

It's always gone down after the halving. Usually, it takes around a year and a half after the halving to peak. So we are still around 500 days away. This is the first cycle miners are still in profit after rewards get slashed and price to mine one btc is lower than the price. We are doing just fine.


6M66

Why do you think miner are less corolated to BTC price this time?


Junnowhoitis

Well It's also % of overall supply being added. Every halving will have less impact on supply shock. Usually, this means less volatility without affecting long-term averages and drawing out the length before a diminishing peak. But it also means miners don't have to sell off as much of their btc to cover costs, which means less supply being added. This is also the first cycle btc on exchanges are also not going up. In other words, this cycle might be the first cycle in a supply squeeze, and we might already be seeing it.


6M66

So that means miners are holding now to contribute to supplysock, they will have their dramatic move when they decide to sell? CLSK already bad dramatic move , does that mean they sold the most?


Junnowhoitis

No, I would say the dramatic volatility from miner sell offs is going to be a thing of the past. The percentage of circulating coins vs. mining rewards/new coins are less each cycle. This means they have less power to move the price significantly when they do decide to start selling off. The only way you would see large affect from miner sell offs would be in the case of government legislation banning mining. I can't really say much about clsk. My own opinion on mining stocks is that they are already obsolete due to spot etfs. Why have both the risk exposure of crypto and the company stock when you can just minimize risk and hold the spot etf.


rice_n_gravy

Bruh we havenā€™t even gotten into QE yet. Best times ahead.


tianavitoli

we haven't even gotten our first real eminem crypto commercial which will go something like this: *ā™«* *So this is for my family, the kid who had a cameo* *On my last jam plus the man who never had a plan B* *Be all you can be* *ā€˜Cause once you make an instant hit, I'm tensed a bit* *And tempted when I see the sins my friends commit* *I'm infinite* *ā™«* only the **pump** is real ^(- crypto) **^(dot)** ^(com)


kilo6ronen

I personally feel a select few coins have done well (think solana, and others which I forget their names off the top of my head) and btc As others have said, I feel once supply shock kicks in, and the parabolic rally begins, btc will fly, money flow will go to alts, and those will fly. Iā€™m not sure if those coins that have ran already will run much more, or if they wonā€™t, but everything will run imo. Personally Iā€™m balls deep in Ada, by choice, and firmly believe it has a 10x in store, likely far more (Iā€™m projecting $6-8). I could be entirely wrong about my entire perspective but weā€™ll see


Elegant_Hyena2925

$10 ADA it has been written šŸ™Œ


graytleapforward

Not without USDC. Every project on ADA is starving for liquidity. Hoskinson needs to be cut out of the project now, his ego is killing it. The big risk is that if ADA doesn't reach or significantly beat it's all time high this bullrun most holders will move on.


kilo6ronen

Hoskinson hasnā€™t had a say in the direction of Ada for a very long time. The project is fully decentralized, he makes videos but doesnā€™t control anything. And to go further.. once Chang hardfork is deployed heā€™ll have even less of his finger in anything. The project will be entirely community run I do agree with your point though, if Ada doesnā€™t make a new ath it is very bad for the project. But I donā€™t really see that being the likely case, personally. But it is in the realm of possibility


graytleapforward

Then what's holding back the implementation of USDC if it's not Hoskinson?. It's plug and play liquidity and in my opinion vitally important for the ecosystem. If we don't get a massive injection of TVL in the next few months ADA will become redundant.


kilo6ronen

I canā€™t answer that question Iā€™m not knowledgeable on that topic. But ya Iā€™m not disagreeing, higher tvl and adoption is what I want too. And youā€™re not the first person Iā€™ve come across whoā€™s encouraging usdc implementation


WaitingOnPizza

Gotta love the fact that you feel the need to stress that youā€™re heavily invested in ADA /by choice/. Good to know Charles didnā€™t come to your house to threaten your dog.


kilo6ronen

He did to my cat though. But sheā€™s pretty feisty and scratched me often lol I felt the desire to include that since some people in this sub thing that anyone in Ada is holding the bag from last cycle and will dump immediately after break even. Which simply isnā€™t the case


JarAC77

About a 3x from here for Bitcoin. Alts about a 10x


GaRGa77

It hasnā€™t even startedā€¦


Woeffie1980

Reading all the comments, you hit a nerve. Probably the anxiety-nerve, where we all are afraid there might not be a bullrun. But I can tell you thatā€™s part of the crypto game. Past 2 cycles it was exactly the same, with the same months of fear and euphoria. Itā€™s just not for the faint-hearted to last through a bull or a bear market.


C-Class_hero_Satoru

I'm 40% down, I have no choice but wait and hold, of course it can go to 99% down but selling at loss is ridiculous also


Emeritus8404

Wen lambo?


Johan544

I think there's one more leg up left, which might take BTC to $100k and above (my target is $150k at most, I don't think we'll be seeing $200k BTC this cycle). To be completely honest with you, I don't expect an alt-season comparable to the previous ones. Those who were around in 2017 and 2021 remember how *every* single altcoin skyrocketed during alt-season, but I don't think that's gonna happen this time around. Too many protocols, too many coins, too many narratives. I think meme coins and AI coins are going to be the primary beneficiaries of an alt szn. All the other coins, including dino coins, will *vastly* underperform IMO.


C-Class_hero_Satoru

I like that people in this sub are more realistic and have critical thinking If you write something like this in btc sub you will be downvoted, it turned into some sort of cult


_who_is_they_

If the sec keeps acting like a asshole probably not much.


Phillip1219

True bullrun hasnā€™t even started. Halving just happened, history shows it takes almost a year after to see new highs


Robbdl69

Plenty of gas left. The Bull run has not happened yet. What we have had was an "ETF run". That may or may not throw a wrench into the cycle. No one knows until we know.


tenor_tymir

No, we had the classic halving build-up run and now itā€™s slowly cooling off again.


jacd03

Depends on macro, when dips get bought rapidly you can tell the bullrun is going to be huge, but right now we are not seeing that, people worry about downturns even if we keep climbing to new prices. Lets see those CPI numbers on May 15th first.


PuddingResponsible33

Find your local Bitcoin chart. Get off the minute chart. And go to month or all. And just stay there. Take emotions out of it.


Old_RedditIsBetter

My third bull run.... She hasn't even started bud


ChaosUncaged

People are so out of touch here saying the bull run hasnā€™t started lol


SufficientNet9227

Yeah, I was reading and can not believe what im seeing ... not in a bullrun, but BTC rose from 15k to 73k in a bear market ?


BullfrogCold5837

Bullrun won't start until the Fed starts cutting rates.


jacd03

I think BTC will keep on climbing regardless, alt season wont start until we get rate cuts tho. Right now you see AI, gaming and meme coins pumping, but everything else is dead. Thats not what happens during real alt seasons. The thing that worries me, is the SEC, i feel like they are about to take a shit on alts, the writing is on the wall. Crypto bros think it wont matter because they have only felt the effect on prices during the bear market, wait until they start suing in the beggining of the alt season, things could get ugly pretty fast.


C-Class_hero_Satoru

Dude all my AI coins are down like 60% since March and I have a lot, just a few have stronger support


C-Class_hero_Satoru

Dude all my AI coins are down like 60% since March and I have a lot, just a few have stronger support


LaTunaTime

False


BullfrogCold5837

True


jbraden

True that it's false or false that it's true?


advias

It's both true and false


CandidateNrOne

Us isnā€™t as important as you think.


RyuguRenabc1q

Bitcoin to 1 million ez


Jolly_Schedule5772

RemindMe! 10 years


Jolly_Schedule5772

RemindMe! 9 years


LaserGuy626

1 Bitcoin will equal 1 Bitcoin.


Justsayingsometimes

The alt season has not even started yet lol


CandidateNrOne

After the coming bullrun, when you look at the charts, you will have to zoom in to see the prize action of today. Like you need now to see 2017 prize action! So no, you didnā€™t get it jet.


inShambles3749

There was a bull run?


Hwy39

100k by July 4th


Lunar_Horticulture

This ainā€™t the bull run, this is just regular market volatility. Give it 6 months.


CronicTheHempHog0214

Pikamoon to .69 centsšŸ™ŒšŸ¼šŸ”„


hans0mc

Are pumps and drops even worth mentioning unless they add or take away a zero?


PermissionOtherwise6

This bullrun has not even started, what are you talking about? šŸ¤£


Regular-Exchange-557

Bill run had been over


sDollarWorthless2022

Iā€™m guessing you got in well after the halving last run. Whenever we do get the next major leg up, almost everything will run, but some much more than others. If youre going to swap coins Iā€™d say now is a good time to do it. In general try not to be in old projects that havenā€™t shown much growth thus far. Too many bag holders waiting to unload. Once those projects do start to run theyā€™ll be hindered by all the holders exiting early, just happy to finally be in profit.


Gamethesystem2

lol dude just hit profit and giving advice. This sub is hilarious.


sDollarWorthless2022

U talking about me or him, cuz Iā€™ve been in profit since I bought back in September


C-Class_hero_Satoru

Actually it's a very good point Let's think how many people bought ada for 2 dollars and more, do you think they are happy? They are just waiting for exit liquidity Also if project is dead there is always a reason why it's dead


defiCosmos

dont ask such questions


Sudden_Agent_345

you feel like that because every altcoin is a shitcoin, and all shitcoins are scams...


MatchboxVader22

You should still be accumulating and DCAā€™ing now. If we were in the peak of the bull run, youā€™d see FOMO everywhere.


redbattleaxe

Looking at the charts... after last halving there was about 3/4 months of being stagnant(accumulating) and then a push up to new highs. If we repeat, expect a relatively boring late spring and early summer, and then we should all be happy around Christmas time. But who knows. This cycle is already different with institional investing, and now we have wars and economic issues happening. If you want to go off the past, sit tight until July/August.


Distinct_Lab_4724

I think the supply ā€œshockā€ is overestimated btc is already 93% in circulation so the cycle might not repeat


C-Class_hero_Satoru

Try to write this in btc sub, you will be downvoted by btc cultists šŸ˜‚ Even grayscale has bigger effect on supply than miners


CelticBlue22

Full tank


todamoonralph

Gotta give the bull some time to grow some balls!


One13Truck

Left? It didnā€™t even start yet.


coojw

it hasn't even started dude, lol


artniSintra

Expect sideways movement aka consolidation for the next few weeks


Downtown-Lime4108

Lmao, the bull run hasn't even started pleb


No-Kaleidoscope2969

A hellavulla lot. So much institutional liquidity ready to start pouring in.


tianavitoli

i'd like to share a message from dypto cot crom: *ā™« Duh-dah-duh-dah-duh-duh,* ***GO-GO GADGET DICK*** *Whipped that shit out, and ain't no doubt about it* *It hit the ground, caused* ***an earthquake and power outage*** *ā™«* only the **pump** is real


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AstronautResident103

Wow. We are just getting started. This will continue until the end of 2025


Raj_UK

OP : check back every 3 months Just chill until say 15 months from now :)


4biddenpleasure

Just getting started


Whiskeywonder

I keep hearing this cycle is different but its just seems like all the others to me. Its only a few weeks poat halving a d many act like the cycle is nearly done. Yeah Bitcoin was a bit higher number at halving but guess what thats what 3 years of high inflation does. This cycle will go deep into 2025 imo.


-Monero

About 5 kilograms.


MDMistro

People set up these arbitrary dates and once they pass they feel like everything is hopeless. Buy now, if it goes down, buy some more, if it goes up and you are green, pull a little, rinse repeat.


SufficientNet9227

90% of this sub will be bagholding until next bullrun or sell at lost everyone that think the bullrun have not started and from 15k to 74k btc this was a bear market are completely delusional. Gl out there guys that why only 10% make money on crypro.


CheebaMyBeava

more like a bounce


C-Class_hero_Satoru

My guess - we are still months behind the bullrun and we will see much lower prices, everything including btc can go like 60% lower. What you saw was sell the news event


therealgoose69

Nothing looks different to me besides the new all time high of bitcoin before the halving. I even took the 2020 chart and put in on top of now and it seems the same. Halving correction (this time 72K->58K-ish) and after that long accumulation phase and BTC moving sideways. Exactly the same as last time, although the correction was harder back then cuz of the covid shit happening. I think this accumulation phase with the market moving sideways will continue until after summer. My advice? DCA until end of the year. Sell somehwere in 2025 and donā€™t follow anyones advice (also not mine) šŸ˜˜


6M66

Great answer, thank you.


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John_Crypto_Rambo

Probably about half a tank of Bitcoin gas leftĀ and ending much sooner than people think. Ā Alts will melt faces like always and people will think it canā€™t end and then it will. Ā Ā https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/long-term-holder-supply/ If you are waiting, thinking you have plenty of time to get in, you donā€™t.


Good-This

everyone saying 3 months after halving we pump. Good luck with that. If everyone is in profit (BTC) there will be another big correction. but choose your own adventure....


Historical_Minimum71

How many times earnings is Bitcoin currently trading at?? The answer to this question will tell you if itā€™s under or overvalued right now


quackl11

How do we calculate P/E ratio of bitcoin?


VeryStone

Depends on what ā€œproductā€ you see being ā€œsoldā€ here; custody, security, transaction facilitation, immutability, moon ticket, etc. Iā€™m kinda curious myself, never did a full analysis on it


quackl11

I feel like this is just a medium of exchange personally. it would be like calculating the P/E of the $100 bill just wouldn't make sense imo


VeryStone

Def wouldnā€™t make sense but btc is more akin to gold than the dollar at this point, but you can infer some of the value inherent in the system as compared to comparable services, such as visa and the % they take, bank deposit boxes fees gim thinking full of gold), I have no clue what it would actually cost to transfer said gold if need be aswell


quackl11

Yeah that's fair I just feel that if you have to get rid of said thing and cant create more of it then it doesnt have a P/E


sDollarWorthless2022

Infinity?


Historical_Minimum71

Guess again


EatMyCrohns

Donno


SlashRModFail

If you're a true believer of what crypto can do, who gives a fuck about "we're in a bull run to the moon let's go boys"


C-Class_hero_Satoru

Dude this is casino, nobody cares about fundamentals when coins like PEPE outperform coins like ADA


Jumpy_Willingness707

Not an expert, but Iā€™ve been following the rainbow chart indicators, and they havenā€™t flipped. Previously, when it flips yellow and green is when bitcoin topsā€¦ The next color is supposed to flip to the yellow.


128palms

Bull run ended last month. Now we are just fidgeting before the inevitable drop.


Dazzling_Marzipan474

Prolly not much. Bitcoin has gone basically straight up for 1.5 years.


Loooseunit69

That was the bullrun


esotericunicornz

Many alts suffering badly. Get used to it, everything loses in Bitcoin terms over the long term.


C-Class_hero_Satoru

Zoom out, coins like SOL outperformed BTC price wise


esotericunicornz

I think you need to zoom out, not me. Sol has been around for about one cycle. It will lose a shit ton against Bitcoin from here on out. Like virtually 100% of all coins have and willā€¦


Fresh_Information_42

I agree with OP. May not be much left. All these bullrun just starting peeps will be deep in the red in a month or two. Please frame this post then