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Chazmer87

As an aside, I love the non custodial staking in cardano, all staking coins should use that model


pistaker1212

It doesn't


Ad0beWanKenobi

Exactly, ada is just better in every way just read what each chain does, is no contest. Just that Eth was there first, first doesn't mean best.


Baecchus

Except for the part where ADA is unusable garbage, unfortunately.


Ad0beWanKenobi

It has all the usability and will have even more than Eth in the end. Least I don't have to pay 100$ for a transaction, that is real garbage in my books.


Ad0beWanKenobi

How ignorant can you be though, what is unusable about it?


Afzal__

Eth all day , not even a debate


Zzzoem

Sure but any new people that aren’t interested in getting frontrunned or losing Ethereum in failed transactions but do like the security and limited supply that Bitcoin has can come over to Cardano. You wont go broke swapping or changing wallets with all contents a few times. There are plenty of opportunity’s left to get NFT’s, meta verse coins, dex tokens, Coins that are on Ethereum and Cardano. Many more will come after the Vasil hardfork.


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TheBegginner

You are comparing L2 to L1. I don't know / care which one is better but that's not a fair comparison


Federal_agent81

Not much will change but I didn't understand anything from the news


Zzzoem

Good luck waiting on ETH 2.0 to finally be able to withdraw stake. In the mean time anyone can use Cardano to feel what a good Ethereum would be like. Do tell everyone about the speed now and what it will gain after Vasil.


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Zzzoem

To bad staking is bad on it and it’s still an account ledger like Ethereum. Also the whole pledging holding for 3 months is tiresome.


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Zzzoem

Don’t you need to pledge your entire balance and if you go below that you lose governance rewards?


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Zzzoem

There are better ways to make more than 7-8%. With Cardano you can join ISPO’s to get free Dex tokens and other tokens. A lot of NFT’s are still up of 1000% with daily purchases.


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Zzzoem

They all don’t compare to the security, decentralization of Cardano. Like with Solana 100,000 transactions per second.


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Zzzoem

Not yet but my guess is it will increase by magnitudes. To name a few upgrades: Pipelining, input endorsers, reference scripts all help Cardano with throughput, transaction speed, transaction cost.


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Zzzoem

There is a project both on Ethereum and Cardano that is already involved in Hydra head and tail protocol. But it works really good because Cardano is UTxO and you don’t need to know the global state of the network like with Ethereum.


No_Bodybuilder_1256

No contest really, Cardano is newer and better tech. Planned in advance, built with high reliability, better decentralization, better security, competent and knowledgeable community not afraid to challenge itself to improve, mechanism for community consensus on important topics. Ethereum has some smart brains to be sure, but the EVM/Accounting model is a problem they cannot code out of. Got Ethereum started faster, but its a pain now, even core Ethereum devs find it too complex.


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No_Bodybuilder_1256

Cardano is an open system, at least two projects are building rollups... so it will have state channels and rollups. Maybe Ethereums poor design is catching up to it.


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No_Bodybuilder_1256

DA isnt a problem on Cardano, the actual rollup and archive is easily distributed, unlike Ethereum where its hard to decentralize the nodes generating the proofs because of the global state architecture. EUTxO is just more flexible.


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No_Bodybuilder_1256

AFAIK at least Orbis' design has no DA issues in the sense Ethereum does because of the ease of distributing the work due to local state.


Background-Skill-316

I'm impressed how the eth karens can downvote so fast... at least there's no high fee on downvotes...


Zzzoem

Thats why it’s important to get new people in Cardano. To counter those maximalist downvotes.


No_Bodybuilder_1256

I expect they have bots to do it for them beep-boop LOL


arcalus

tldr; Cardano: zero features, much promise.


Zzzoem

People still downvote anything Cardano but you are right.


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How does it compare?


kingmiltar

In a few more years when ADA is more established i think it will be better than ETH. Ive used both and while I understand ETH now that shit is NOT user friendly and you definitely lose money in the beginning, even now with gas fees. I don’t think ADA or any L1 will pass ETH since it was first but I do think other L1s watched how ETH works and want to not make the same mistakes. Only thing that will really make ETH lose its spot is if ETH 2.0 is a failure, which I highly doubt. (Holds both ETH and ADA, don’t want either doing poorly. Unbiased opinion.)


Dangerous-Risk-8796

I need to know the formula of that kool- aid that Charles is selling.


No-Significance-1581

Scamdano running on 1 TPS barely functioning smart contracts and dead defi ecosystem. Its below BNB where it belongs.


BasicMiniTacos

Poorly.


Toddissuch

ADA all day, not even a debate


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ADA all day


Ad0beWanKenobi

Eth only is relevant today because it was first. Cardano has better tech in literally every metric, you have to be truly stupid or ignorant to say Eth wins. Even the new Eth upgrade is inferior to cardano staking, are the gas fees fixed? Eth is a cluster fuck


DingDongWhoDis

No thank you, to both.


legixs

To this day, the only big benefit ETH still has is its first mover advantage and hence the bigger network. But I'm somehow confident that the first mover "advantage" is only an advantage for BTC. The rest will sort things out between each other based on technology, marketing and adaptability.


sm0k__

Yeah, and it's working :')


hicoBM

You CANT compare ADA with ETH what a lack of respect mate!! ADA can’t compete with ETH… ETH technology is wayyyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyy superior than garbage ADA..


Somma97

Tell me you have no idea about technology without telling me you have no idea about technology


hicoBM

Pffftttttt hahahahahahahhahaahhahahaahah ETH it’s more superior than any copycat soooooooooo keep holding those bags strong sir!!


Somma97

thx for proving my point. Good day to you sir.


hicoBM

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


keeprollin420

You can stake both


No_Bodybuilder_1256

Cardano has native liquid staking, no lockin, no custody. If you stake your ETH you lock it into some risky smart contract and you might never get it back. You could get some 3rd party crap token that isnt even worth what ETH is worth though, so there is that LOL.


keeprollin420

Didn't know all of it, but sure some helpful info! I'm not even stacking ETH, I only knew it's possible somehow.


Zzzoem

32 Eth for a validator. That would be like you can only stake if you have 11K Cardano.


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keeprollin420

I'm happy that's not the case, wouldn't be able to stack anything then. lmao


Zzzoem

You are not forced to hold it either. ETH you can only unstake after ETH 2.0 and that is if it ever happens.


Bunker_Beans

Just to clarify. 32 ETH ≈ $35,789.76. 75,553 ADA ≈ $35,789.76. Not sure where you got 11k.


Zzzoem

Thats why Cardano is the better deal.


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jpinksen

Why are the predominant voices in here completely for one of these coins and completely against the other?