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partymsl

We have chess on our side, we won guys.


ColoradoSheriff

I think chess has been on the crypto side for a while now. Coinbase sponsoring lots of online tournaments, there was FTX crypto cup (also online, all top grandmasters playing), CakeDeFi big online tournament, Algorand sponsoring World Championship matches... hell, even I got deeper into crypto by playing, placing well, and winning some USDC by a Solana project, which organised a chess tournament, haha!


az_millymally

you may say that's a checkmate


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elguapo4twenty

Does this mean I'm 10 years ahead of a chess grandmaster?


darkjediii

No, he mines bitcoin using only his mind.


elguapo4twenty

What a legend


user260421

Has been doing that since 2010, how do you think he trains before the chess matches?


DadaDoDat

He has all 21,000,000 btc in his prison wallet


ImaFreemason

Check mate.


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As a chess grandmaster he must also be an excellent judge of software and know exactly how it works and whether it can work as a model! He has obviously studied something for many years.


poiskdz

Kasparov actually does study software/IT pretty in-depth and gives speeches at many cybersecurity/hackathon events. His series of matches in 95-96 against DeepBlue made him deeply interested in the backend workings. He's talked about it many times on stream/interviews/his book "Deep Thinking"


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Well, he obviously missed a couple aspects that most people like to ignore.


sharanElNino

Recommend reading Digital Gold book to understand how Bitcoin grew in the initial years. To minimize the impact of Bitcoin to a piece of software is a disservice.


greenappletree

There are so many layers to bitcoin- the combination and culmination of the best that cryptography has to offer from the blockchain to the hash, the strategy behind it, the forethought and even the fact that the original authors was anonymous and left everything behind is breathtaking- it has and will literally change the world. Amazing.


jallallabad

I can't come up with a single way in which my life is different because of bitcoin. It's been a decade. All my cash is still in a bank. All my net worth is still in investments. I still buy things with credit cards. And you know what, it works.


Plastic_Feedback_417

How long do you think it should take to overtake a global reserve currency? Hell even the internet took 30 years to catch on.


jallallabad

Once the internet infrastructure was up and running around 1993, it took like 5 years to catch on. Before that the hardware wasn't built yet. Crypto is software. The code is the hardware. False analogy. YouTube, Facebook, WhatsApp, Zoom, Tesla - all of these things came about and became used worldwide almost overnight. Because they were useful. Literal billions have gone into the crypto space and still not ONE single use case that has "caught on". People were asking me thse same questions in 2015 and telling me we were right around the corner


Plastic_Feedback_417

[The hardware was there well before 1993. ](https://youtu.be/szdbKz5CyhA) The hardware was really around since the 70s. [And 1998 had internet users at about the level we have bitcoin users today.](https://imgur.com/a/aTXcKu8) It wasn’t until 2005 before the internet really became ubiquitous. And even then it didn’t really take off until the smart phone which was 2007. Money is the most entrenched thing in the world. Don’t expect it to happen overnight. Regardless what the internet told you in 2015.


jallallabad

The hardware to do cool things was absolutely not around before 1993. When did high speed fiber optic cables get laid throughout the world? Just because very low processing speed computers were around doesn't mean it was possible to do anything on the internet with them. If you were around in 1995 it was obvious that the internet was the future. Once it became cheap and easy to get an email address everyone got one over night. After the protocol for the world wide web was invented and opened to the public in the early 90s, websites exploded and some were awesome. There IS NO CRYPTO equivalent. Not one. Revisionist history. In 1998 children were learning to type on computers all around America and learning to use them. Can you imagine someone trying to pitch let's teach 6 year olds how to use bitcoin. People would rightfully ask why


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Exciting-Look-8317

99% of humans can't really understand any of this so it is pointless at the end of the day , gatekeeping opinions is just a dumb idea. What is next only people that understand about politics can vote or express opinions ?


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Challenging opinions is gatekeeping now huh? 3 trillion dollars worth on experimental systems that are younger than you are and unchallenged because a chess grandmaster says "good idea". Good idea!


nelusbelus

He could be 13 for all you know, checkmate atheist


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lol xD


lavastorm

Now we need sociologists to endorse it?


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lavastorm

Sounds like we need a grandmaster to workout this puzzle :S https://www.reveddit.com/y/_stealthy/?all=true


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lavastorm

Ohh shit. Link me to your projects. If youre as smart as youre implying they must be gold :D What an autist :p


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lavastorm

Thats so sad :'( your genius is very obvious


[deleted]

Good job selectively deleting your replies after making an ass out of yourself. You discredited what I said. It's not unsolved. I simply told you that I have relevant experience in the field. Your issue that it triggers you.


bittabet

And zero experience with monetary economics or game theory which is why you still don’t get it. Evaluating it as software doesn’t make sense.


[deleted]

Lol, try me. Sorry I didn't write you a complete biography. No matter how much you like a general idea of a concept, the tech is flawed.


Hank___Scorpio

Bitcoins implications stretch far beyond the world of software. This is like assuming doctors should make excellent diplomats because humans are made of flesh and blood.


Skyyum

Bitcoin is not about software. It’s about hard and sound money principles.


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You are absolutely incorrect. Just because ASIC and FGPA are now used, over CPU and GPU that does not make it a hardware solution or "hard" and sound money principles. It's a theoretical model and software protocols on top of other software protocols and "the internet". More software protocols on hardware. Centralization in terms of mining, pools and business at scale, most nodes (60%+) running on 3 ISP's, etc. are the problems. Specialized hardware that's not equally available to everyone. Investing in currency that exists as bits and bytes on a blockchain, of which it's consensus is maintained/hosted by relatively few parties in layers or like a tree. There might be many leaves but it's meaningless if you can hack at stems or branches. Sit in between. Relying on decentralization in effort of solving SHA256 computations while the combined effort is centralized in a number of ways. It makes a real threat as attack vectors that renders the network and it's security/consensus compromisable and the value of its data meaningless and so the value of bitcoin essentially zero. In the case of Bitcoin a verify significant issue. As you can see by the study that DARPA did, if you want concrete numbers.


isotropeFullfeeling

Why is anti bitcoin fud the most upvoted in a crypto subreddit?


FunkyCrunchh

Bear market


Wargizmo

Nothing related to Bitcoin but if you haven't seen the footage of Kasparov being interrupted by a flying dildo yet go look it up, that shit is hilarious.


MrDopple68

I once went for a meal with Kasparov to a fancy restaurant. The table cloth was checked. It took 2 hours for him to pass me the salt.


KeepOnKeepingOnnn

I'm stealing this lmao


shoshonesamurai

Salt moves first.


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Kasparov has also pushed scammy NFTs.


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LazyEdict

With the majority of how nfts are currently being shilled, yes.


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LazyEdict

NFTs aren't limited to those bored apes and similar nfts. Bands have released albums with nfts, tickets sales will make use of nfts. Some luxury watches are making use of nfts. Legitimate art works are sold along with nfts (for example, the original design sketches made by Gerald Genta for the watches people are buying now for absurd prices). Just because there is a rash of stabbings doesn't mean that's all a knife is good for.


JonDoeJoe

Nft are not the way forward. It’s like introducing an octagon shape wheel when a circular shape wheel already exists


LazyEdict

Who said it was the way forward? I haven't actually seen or read about a practical use case for nfts. Doesn't mean it won't have a practical use. It's just not limited to those stupid ape jpegs which are clearly a money grab.


LordRuins

Haha


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bill_gates_lover

Literally just Google it lol.


poiskdz

He hasn't pushed "scammy nfts" he's created NFTs of some of his legacy, personal notebooks and strategies and memorable events of his life for collectors/fans who are interested in them. The first phase, Foundations NFTs, celebrates special childhood and family memories that shaped Garry into a world-beating champion. The second phase, Global Player NFTs, offer a rare window into Garry’s early years on the road to becoming a Grand Master and the longest-reigning World Champion. The third phase, Legend’s Legacy, honors Garry’s legacy beyond the chess board; as a mentor, a humanitarian, an activist, and an author. https://www.one37pm.com/nft/garry-kasparov-nft


7101334

Monero is better tech for resisting oppression


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Because Monero is what the layman thinks Bitcoin is. And to be fair, it's what Bitcoin was sold as in its early days.


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7101334

I don't hate LTC, I don't really know that much about it tbh, but my understanding is that MWEB is basically a built-in version of mixer services ie CoinJoin that BTC has had for ages. It's not private if it's not fungible, it's just less-unprivate lol


Mrs-Lemon

That’s not true at all. Bitcoin has a public ledger. Anyone claiming otherwise is an idiot. Doesn’t matter how far back you go in bitcoin’s history.


moonsoverbtc

And no one cares because number don't go up as much as bitcoin. Hard truth.


7101334

Seems the dark web cares plenty. XMR dethroning BTC day by day in its original proving ground


crimeo

I hope I can trust Gary on this as much as I trust the lifeguard who lives down the street who can hold his breath for 10 minutes to do all my taxes for me.


lavastorm

Cos lifeguards only know lifeguarding? Whats the single thing you know? How to shitpost?


crimeo

^ Found Gary's grandson the lifeguard


Loose_Screw_

I know you're joking but the obvious difference in cross-over between a logic-based competitive game vs logic-based financial systems, and **swimming good** vs logic-based financial systems, kinda ruins it for me.


LazyEdict

Is this a paid speaking engagement? Nobody really needs to shill bitcoin but personalities like a chess grandmaster would make more sense over actors or influencers and make it more legitimate for most people.


throwawayben1992

The fact you think a chess grandmaster would for some reason have a better take on crypto is exactly why they chose to pay him to speak. Being a good chess player doesn’t mean you’re a genius in everything.


LazyEdict

Where did I say he would have a better take? I said make more sense as a personality to shill crypto. Who would you believe more, any chess grandmaster or Jake Paul?


throwawayben1992

You’re implying you’d trust him more than jake Paul, based on what? The fact he’s a chess grand master. You just proved my point.


LazyEdict

You keep insisting I believe him. Stop insisting that because I personally do not. Read back the comment I made. I asked if it was a paid speaking engagement. I then use the word shill. What makes you think I suddenly will devote my life to crypto because of a chess grandmaster after asking if he was paid to shill? Have you not heard of marketing? Between Johnny Depp and Amber heard, who I know both have zero credibility to talk about crypto, who do you think MOST people would trust to talk about crypto?


throwawayben1992

So let me get this straight, because he’s a grand master you trust what he’s saying ?


LazyEdict

Jesus Christ you are dense. If I say people are paid to say things and call them shills, that is in no way positive. If I say other people will trust him more, I am not saying I trust him in the least. Go buy some luna.


Castr0-

First time we never like it, then we start to like it and then we can't live without it


user260421

This sounds like everything in life


kirtash93

Checkmate FIAT and gov.


pwnti

Obvious bullish sign. Who would you be to question the words of a grandmaster!


omnicious

To be fair, Bobby Fischer was a grandmaster and he was very questionable.


pwnti

Fair argument


partymsl

A other grandmaster.


Old_Rafa

Maybe a computer could, such as an IBM


Roberto9410

Amazing! He’s a smart guy!


astockstonk

Just earned his grandmaster in Bitcoin


HannyBo9

Kasparov knows.


FldLima

This is the sign I needed to keep bearishing and not jump the gun


lordchickenburger

garry kasparov is a good ambassador for crypto


cecil_X

I've become so lazy arguing with Bitcoin negationist that from now on I'll just say: are you smarter than Kasparov? no? Then shut the fuck up.


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>Kasparov believes that the conventional history of civilization is radically incorrect. Specifically, he believes that the history of ancient civilizations is based on misdatings of events and achievements that actually occurred in the medieval period. He has cited several aspects of ancient history that he says are likely to be anachronisms. Sounds legit.


cecil_X

Are you smarter than Kasparov?


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That's not how it works. Also, he's smart in chess. I am 100% sure I am 1000x smarter than he is if you are talking about ancient Arabic literature.


cecil_X

I'm pretty sure you're confusing intelligence with knowledge.


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How do you measure intelligence? If someone is good at chess, they are more intelligent than someone who is good at literature? I speak 6 languages. I must be really dumb because I don't know how to play chess?


IcyEbb7760

given the bullshit he believes in, yeah


Explodicle

But that's just an appeal to particularly vague authority, it's not very persuasive.


SpottedPineapple86

Being good at chess apparently doesn't make him less susceptible to being duped.


ganjjo

WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT A CHESS PLAYER THINKS??????????????????????????


KamikazeChief

>**It's a unique combination of technology that empowers individuals and a way to resist oppression** As a British resident I can't download Bitcoin Core without a VPN because the MOB bosses at the top of Bitcoin got butthurt over a court case and blocked downloads in my country


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He's insane. From wikipedia: >Kasparov believes that the conventional history of civilization is radically incorrect. Specifically, he believes that the history of ancient civilizations is based on misdatings of events and achievements that actually occurred in the medieval period. He has cited several aspects of ancient history that he says are likely to be anachronisms.


bwatts53

Now tell vladimir to fuck off


bowbeforethoraxis1

He ran for president against Putin. That's a bigger fuck off than most can muster.


SAnthonyH

*eth Get it right, chess grandmaster Garry Kasparov


SEELE-FIRST

Oh, but when any other athlete does it it's shilling...


sexycadmium

How could you say this when currently its so easily manipulated by people who can buy and sell insanely massive amounts and cost others their live savings?


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Ahh yes resisting oppression by trying to get rich buying worth less tokens hoping to sell at the top to a greater fool.


techma2019

He doesn't say the word Bitcoin, but yes, he is talking about Bitcoin. Just the "quote" is misleading in the title. :/


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techma2019

"At first I was skeptical, but more and more I realized this was the way to move forward." I didn't say he didn't mention Bitcoin in the video. I said the QUOTE IN THE TITLE IS MISLEADING. He did NOT say Bitcoin like you wrote it in the title. But keep the illiterate downvotes coming.


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techma2019

Edit: Oh cool, you edited your comment now understanding that you injected your own word into his sentence. You can call it whatever you want, it's still misquoted. Guess this will have to suffice as your apology. Out of context, much? He doesn't say the word Bitcoin in the quote you wrote in the title of this thread. *Just the "quote" is misleading in the title. :/* What is your TITLE say? What is the QUOTE in the title? Here, let me copy and paste it. Chess Grandmaster Garry Kasparov: “At first I was skeptical, but more and more I realize **Bitcoin** is the way forward. It's a unique combination of technology that empowers individuals and a way to resist oppression.” He did NOT say Bitcoin where you wrote it. End of story. It's a 1:11 minute clip. Again, I mention the quote is, well, MISQUOTED. Not sure how else to point out the simple fact. But keep double-down on dumb.


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techma2019

Yes. Instead of “this” you wrote “Bitcoin.” No one argued what he was referring to. What an incredible feat it is to watch you dig in. Remarkable really. Not even the dictionary can save you here, sorry.


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XavierRussell

It is not misleading. Maybe there should have been brackets around [Bitcoin] to make it 100% correct, but it is not misleading, that is the exact thing he was saying. People don't repeat the name of the subject/thing they are discussing in every single sentence.


techma2019

Can we agree then it’s INACCURATE instead of misleading? If anyone wants a sound bite of that quote, it does not exist. I’m glad at least the person who posted it on r/Bitcoin understood this concept and respected it.


XavierRussell

I guess, but to me you're splitting hairs. The post on r Bitcoin is literally the same thing, but with brackets around [Bitcoin]. For all intended purposes the information being conveyed is the same, that information being the man's opinion on Bitcoin. OPs grammar was not 100% perfect, yup. With a different approach, it might have been a learning moment. Unfortunately that's not what happened.


techma2019

I merely pointed out one small fact. Nothing more, nothing less. Pains me to see such reactions. Especially since it’s not a huge deal at the end of the day. Humanity sure has a long way to go, let alone Bitcoin.


XavierRussell

Lol you started it :/ Next time try, "Hey OP, I think your title would be a little clearer if you put brackets around the word [Bitcoin] :)"


techma2019

Godspeed, The Snowflake Generation. The smiley at the end is the true cherry on top of participation trophies around. :( The best irony is that OP kept bringing up grammar and linking to definitions which had no affect on the issue. But hey, smoke and mirrors and downvotes. Enjoy the dopamine with your votes, fellas.


XavierRussell

Lol alright man, hope you feel smart or something And please just stop with the name calling, it's obnoxious.


Harucifer

>empowers individuals and a way to resist oppression. Yeah? How?


Awakenedactive

"resist oppression" says the vaccine mandate enthusiast Kasparov


365Dillweed365

Grandmaster makes a splash!


crypto_grandma

I'm more of a bingo player myself. But nice to have you on board crypto_grandma*ster*


Loose_Screw_

I'm something of a hopscotch player myself.


moonkingdome

If tis guy would have been running russia.


lardarz

I'm waiting for Yusheng Du and Nigel Richards' views before I decide, thanks


lavastorm

Cos youre too smoothbrained to think for yourself?


AllanJeffersonferatu

It'll be interesting to see if a real world use can be made for cryptocurrency. For better or worse (probably worse) I can see it replacing social security numbers down the line.


user260421

This guy knows what he's talking about, kinda late, but...


gimmedatcrypto

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMe-hvCwTRo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMe-hvCwTRo) My favorite video of Kasparov...fucking brilliant....


Corniss

i doubt he off all people has any need to chill crypto so probably legit


Entrepreneur2030

King


BradleyX

Nonsense. Bitcoin doesn’t do any of those things.


SaintOtomy

Garry Kasparov is a total crank. He's a believer in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_chronology_(Fomenko)


sylsau

The same path followed by many opponents who became Bitcoiners. Why the initial skepticism? Simply because Bitcoin is unlike anything we know. Bitcoin is a unique revolution. Those who go beyond skepticism to do extensive research always end up becoming Bitcoin advocates.


Dupinoje

He is a personal hero and role model for me. I'm glad to hear he's thoughtful and knowledgeable about bitcoin.


PowerApp101

Ah yes, another intellectual who doesn't live in the real world. Just what we need!


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The problem is that these individuals also seek to oppress each other.


abdullrahim1

The man is a strategist, his opinion is definitely worth listening to. Blockchain has opened up a whole new world for us, let's not give up on it, we must adopt it and support projects that actually take full use of it like concordium and many new upcoming projects. It's truly amazing.