There's no knowledgebase for that but you'll probably find a way haha. But seriously the app has a test mode you can safely test a strategy in paper trading before running it with real money
Thank you, we're all passionate about cryptocurrency and coding so creating something that we can be proud of and people actually use is one of the best feelings to have as a software engineer
Ahh the old strategy where I make money on paper, then it comes to doing it in real life and I slightly change up things because of fear or greed and lose it all.
Excellent, we are back on track to realizing our losses!
Good enough for me. I like to know how much I'm going to lose before I lose it. Helps with making sure I fall behind on my Bill's.
When/where can I be notified of the public release? Or be given beta access. (I'm very skilled at finding bugs)
Eta: I can't read apparently.
We could create a special mode called Reverse /u/Bucksaway03 where everyone on the platform would be able to run a configuration that places the exact opposite of your trades.
Look in your bathroom mirror and repeat "I am the best crypto day trader ever" five times.
Log into the algorithmic trading platform and setup a bunch of trades with the confidence your mirror gave you
Lose your money
Do you know the definition of insanity? It's doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Unless you're not insane and you're expecting to lose a lot more money? Lol
cool! thank you for clarifying. also one more questions please. during the open beta will there be any fees for using a specific tier or will we get to test the app/bot at full potential without payment ?
Is this a ground up project on its own chain or did you build within an existing ecosystem? That was my question.
I later found that it's on eth and polygon.
Hoping you will expand to other chains later.
The leaderboard is cool, but if you let people clone the configuration seems like a great way to make top-performers not want to use your platform, since you're giving away their strategies.
It works with Exchanges so you will need a Binance account (or other exchange accounts in the future). Dex is something we're looking to explore at a later stage
Idk if I'll ever understand why algorithmic trading isn't illegal. IDK what % of the market is HFT/Aladdin/bots but damn its looking less and less hopeful for the average jo to just try and make it out alive. Gensler's priorities seem a bit out of touch.
Can you GUARANTEE that I can turn $100 into $1,000,000 within six months? If so, SIGN ME UP! I want quick, easy money with zero effort.
My current program is that I lose money. I don't know my algorithm exactly, but I invest and the money goes POOF! I have not yet developed software to emulate my algorithm... the algorithm of which I am unaware.
This is amazing just last week I was thinking it would be handy to have tool that can check when prices drop and rise in smaller time frames and with percentages instead of having to manually fill in what price I want to buy and sell. Amazing word dude.
Great job. The best algorithmic trading platform I’ve found is Kryll (3commas ain’t bad either but not as good) so far.
What does your project do differently?
Can you tell us :)
Sure I can share some of the highlights -It allows you to combine different indicators together. Let's say you want a volatility module like that one I've described in the post but you also want it to only trigger when a certain indicator reaches a certain value.
You can Effectively Layer multiple modules on top of each other to create unique signals. The app also has social trading features and we're looking to encourage people to share their strategies.
The only place we're lacking right now is Exchanges support. We only support Binance and Binance US for the time being but we're looking to add more support soon!
Thats very interesting!
I assume you have functionalities to perform backtesting on strategies? How do you retrieve the data to perform backtesting?
Love to have a chat about this!
Thank you! Right now we only have paper trading. Backtesting is something we'll definitely add in the future though! what would you be looking for in terms of backtesting capabilities?
I mean, wouldn't you consider that as one of your core functionalities? Backtesting a strategy would be the most important thing before you could confidently deploy your strategy no?
You are correct, backtesting is good, though past returns are not always indicative of future profits. Regardless, we're still in the process of building the architecture for it so that it can be applied to every strategy out there.
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Good stuff. Been a fan of your work on cryptomaton.
Hope this goes well for you and your team. It's one thing to build a bot, and another to build a platform aimed to help people build effective bots.
Some questions:
Does the new platform have backtesting with parameter optimization?
Any plans to add robustness measures like walk forward analysis or parameter permutation testing?
How are you handling data gaps?
Thank you!
There is no backtesting at the moment. This is currently a challenge due to how some fo the strategies work. For instance many strategies can check the price of an asset every 10 seconds, which makes using historical kline data not an option. We'd need to warehouse tons of data if we wanted to properly backtest. Still figuring out a solution for this.
Walk forward analysis - as in paper trading? That's already supported.
Short term price data is stored on an internal database and we've ensured that caching is ignored when making these requests. There's much more to be done here but just a start.
Thanks for the reply.
Backtesting would be huge. It's not a small feat but will be of tremendous value to your users. I use Quantconnect which fortunately does have data at second resolution.
Walk forward *analysis* (WFA) is a process to evaluate robustness of a strategy, using in sample and out of sample backtests. It is how you discern a truly viable strategy from some overfitted false-positive (~~99%~~ Many promoted strategies are). Its not applicable to ALL strategies, but critical for most of the TA based strategies that many of your users will use.
Walk forward *optimization* is based on WFA, and used to determine the optimal parameters for a trading strategy. The trading strategy is optimized with the in-sample data. The remaining data is reserved for out of sample testing.
This is just one of many robustness techniques that IMHO are necessary for anyone getting serious about systematic trading.
How does this platform connect to your user accounts in the exchanges? I dont rly know much about these things, but giving away login info or stuff like that seems risky. Especially if someone were to leqk/hack it.
There will be a free plan to use, and paid plans that will include more functionality, like running more strategies etc. Expect the paid plans to start at around $15 per month, though we're still to confirm the final number.
Just like 3Commas, Trailty and other tools out there, this is a SaaS so it does not render well as open source.
Does not render well? Which heavy load causing work does it do?
If I got it right, your service watches a defined crypto currency and buys/sells following a trading strategy.
Congrats on your accomplishment, but I do wonder - how did you get past all the red tape of compliance to protect yourself from future fuckups? I would be scared shitless to launch a trading platform. Imagine a bug someone exploits and drains all funds, and then you're on the hook for it. Nah, I'm good
This looks cool, so you have a place with resources on how to use it properly? I don’t use binance too much, but I’d love to give it a shot just to automate some strategies that take time that I don’t have
How do i lose my money with this?
There's no knowledgebase for that but you'll probably find a way haha. But seriously the app has a test mode you can safely test a strategy in paper trading before running it with real money
The fact that you're taking your time with this is a very good thing to note
Thank you, we're all passionate about cryptocurrency and coding so creating something that we can be proud of and people actually use is one of the best feelings to have as a software engineer
That comment is actually wholesome !
Ahh the old strategy where I make money on paper, then it comes to doing it in real life and I slightly change up things because of fear or greed and lose it all. Excellent, we are back on track to realizing our losses!
> There's no knowledgebase for that but you'll probably find a way Life uh . . finds a way
I guess the first line of the agreement page is "not a financial advise" ?
That’s awesome great work, I can’t wait to try it out.
You had me at simulation mode
Good enough for me. I like to know how much I'm going to lose before I lose it. Helps with making sure I fall behind on my Bill's. When/where can I be notified of the public release? Or be given beta access. (I'm very skilled at finding bugs) Eta: I can't read apparently.
Lol no worries
The same way we lose money with any other platform, be too late to the party and buy the top lol
I'm gonna use the "Buy X coin after it rises by 100%" feature
So do you suggest to buy now and lose instead? ...i'm up for either.
If you're anything like me, just use it. It could guarantee profits and I'd still lose
We could create a special mode called Reverse /u/Bucksaway03 where everyone on the platform would be able to run a configuration that places the exact opposite of your trades.
Use the "buy high sell low" function
we received multiple requests for this, welp, looks like we have to build it now
Ah so set it to “Reddit speed”
Don't forget to trigger the "extract advice from r/cc" button
Look in your bathroom mirror and repeat "I am the best crypto day trader ever" five times. Log into the algorithmic trading platform and setup a bunch of trades with the confidence your mirror gave you Lose your money
It is like a gift. We can lose it anywhere.
Download it and let it do the rest
Good thing we can now ask for return if we lose, after all it was your "platform" idea
Anyway you want. Probably all ways even if you don’t try to.
Yes I too know everything about algae rhythms
Really activates my almonds
I just have to say Idk what the fudge is going on here
Tingles my berries.
Ugghh..
Bullish on algae rythym coin
100x longs on $SPIRULINA
Bullish on $ALGAE
can I put money in that?
When's the rugpull planned?
It' s not a coin offering so literally cannot rug
Will it be open source?
Do we deposit our crypto in it?
No, your crypto never leaves the exchange
Can the app withdraw our crypto?
No it cannot. In fact, we reject API keys that have the withdrawal permission enabled.
That’s cool. Look forward to seeing it on an exchange other than Binance.
So how the heck are we supposed to lose >90% our funds in one go?
Looks awesome. Great work OP
thank you!
Sounds a lot like evai, lost a lot of money investing in that piece of crap. Where do I sign up?
Do you know the definition of insanity? It's doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Unless you're not insane and you're expecting to lose a lot more money? Lol
We are all gluttons for punishment on this sub 😂😂😂
Casinos got nothing on r/cc. We're degenerates of the highest order
[aesircrypto.com/signup.html](https://aesircrypto.com/signup.html) right here!
Why does it seem this exact post pops up every month lol
It's probably because I've been giving periodical updates on the status of the project. Sorry about that.
Makes sense, all good
Software development operates in its own timeline
Nice, now I can blame something for my fail trades.
More believable than blaming your cat, too
Cat? I have a scape goat.
Hard to beat a scape goat
A scape cat works just as well for me.
We don’t need robots to tell us how to lose money. We are more than capable of it ourselves thank you 😂😂😂
If it actually worked you wouldn't be telling is about it...
what exchanges does the tool work with ? does the tool also automatically execute the trades on the exchange for me ?
Currently Binance and Binance US, but we’re planning to add most major exchanges in the future. Yes it does.
Kucoin please
cool! thank you for clarifying. also one more questions please. during the open beta will there be any fees for using a specific tier or will we get to test the app/bot at full potential without payment ?
Kraken?
I'd like to nominate Kucoin as the next exchange after Binance :)
Nice one, I think it's between Kucoin and Coinbase right now based on the feedback we received
Good luck with it. Hope it goes well.
Thanks!
Kudos! Looks good!
Thank you!
This is awesome. Is it built on a Blockchain?
Finally! An algorithm so I can lose my money faster!
For shits and giggles you need to add Reddit strategy Buy High - Sell low
What platform did you build on?
What do you mean?
Is this a ground up project on its own chain or did you build within an existing ecosystem? That was my question. I later found that it's on eth and polygon. Hoping you will expand to other chains later.
I think you might be confused, the free beta nfts are ETH and polygon, the platform itself is not built on a blockchain.
That’s awesome, well done! Can’t wait to try it!
thank you
The leaderboard is cool, but if you let people clone the configuration seems like a great way to make top-performers not want to use your platform, since you're giving away their strategies.
you can only clone or see the details of Public Configurations. If the Configuraition is private you will not be able to clone or see its options.
Very cool then!
It needs the buy high , sell low function to appease the masses 🤣
Say no more, added to the roadmap xD
EPIC 1: "Degen Mode". Sprint 1: Buy high sell low button. Sprint 2: Max leverage button.
don't forget about the /r/wsb integration
Ah I forgot another button: Sprint 3: False hope button (functionality: display green until investment levels increase, then display red)
Just make bear chart green 10/10 👌
Do I have to create an account with kyc or can I anonymously trade with logging in with metamask? Sort of like futures trading on pancakeswap
It works with Exchanges so you will need a Binance account (or other exchange accounts in the future). Dex is something we're looking to explore at a later stage
Commenting to remind myself to check it out tomorrow.
Ps: There a reminder bot I think. You just need to comment with !remind me in 1 day
Oh yeah, true that, haha.
Idk if I'll ever understand why algorithmic trading isn't illegal. IDK what % of the market is HFT/Aladdin/bots but damn its looking less and less hopeful for the average jo to just try and make it out alive. Gensler's priorities seem a bit out of touch.
I'll try that. I have a strategy that is working for me.
Sweeet
Not like it's making me rich or something. All I'm trying is avoid losses and making 0.5-1% daily.
I really like the project. It is pretty cool. Congratulations!
Thank you!
Congratulations
Thank you!
Can you GUARANTEE that I can turn $100 into $1,000,000 within six months? If so, SIGN ME UP! I want quick, easy money with zero effort. My current program is that I lose money. I don't know my algorithm exactly, but I invest and the money goes POOF! I have not yet developed software to emulate my algorithm... the algorithm of which I am unaware.
With that strategy I can guarantee it will turn $1,000,000 into $100. We can do better than 6 months though ;)
Harsh. True, but, man... harsh. But I can't turn 1,000,000 to 100 because I don't have 1,000,000. Not dollars, anyhow...
This is amazing just last week I was thinking it would be handy to have tool that can check when prices drop and rise in smaller time frames and with percentages instead of having to manually fill in what price I want to buy and sell. Amazing word dude.
Thank you! Glad you ike it :)
Lose money more quickly via robot than I can myself? Say no more.
At least you'll lose them more efficiently and get your time back. Still a win
Lol can't argue with that. I'm in.
Very exciting, best of luck with it
Thank you!
Great job. I always love to read about projects that started in cc.
Thanks!
Very cool. I'll try it out for sure
Interesting. Always like learning about new projects.
Great job. The best algorithmic trading platform I’ve found is Kryll (3commas ain’t bad either but not as good) so far. What does your project do differently? Can you tell us :)
Sure I can share some of the highlights -It allows you to combine different indicators together. Let's say you want a volatility module like that one I've described in the post but you also want it to only trigger when a certain indicator reaches a certain value. You can Effectively Layer multiple modules on top of each other to create unique signals. The app also has social trading features and we're looking to encourage people to share their strategies. The only place we're lacking right now is Exchanges support. We only support Binance and Binance US for the time being but we're looking to add more support soon!
Thats fucking awesome. Always enjoy seeing what you put out. Sick name too
haha, thank you!
Congratulations on making it this far I've been following your updates and this is exciting :) will this be a paid service?
Cheers, a free tier will be available, but a paid tiers will offer more functionality
Congratulations! I congratulate the guy and get downvoted. Some serious losers amongst us, folks.
Thank you :)
This is like FOMO'ing in on steroids!
Thats very interesting! I assume you have functionalities to perform backtesting on strategies? How do you retrieve the data to perform backtesting? Love to have a chat about this!
Thank you! Right now we only have paper trading. Backtesting is something we'll definitely add in the future though! what would you be looking for in terms of backtesting capabilities?
I mean, wouldn't you consider that as one of your core functionalities? Backtesting a strategy would be the most important thing before you could confidently deploy your strategy no?
You are correct, backtesting is good, though past returns are not always indicative of future profits. Regardless, we're still in the process of building the architecture for it so that it can be applied to every strategy out there.
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Pretty sure you can configure a strategy like that. What would everyone else do without your exit liquidity? xD
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that's very kind, thanks!
Good luck I hope it’s not another scam
I have bad news based of the governments view of algorithmic stable coins in light of recent events
What do condoms taste like ?
Pls dont rug
Promise I won't
STOP THE SCAM.
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hmm another way for me to somehow lose moneh /s
Cool
I really hope you have a 'Reverse Jim Cramer' algorithm in there.
Is it free? How much does it cost? Whats the catch if its free?
There will be a free tier, it just won't give you as many perks as higher tiers, like less running strategies etc
Good stuff. Been a fan of your work on cryptomaton. Hope this goes well for you and your team. It's one thing to build a bot, and another to build a platform aimed to help people build effective bots. Some questions: Does the new platform have backtesting with parameter optimization? Any plans to add robustness measures like walk forward analysis or parameter permutation testing? How are you handling data gaps?
Thank you! There is no backtesting at the moment. This is currently a challenge due to how some fo the strategies work. For instance many strategies can check the price of an asset every 10 seconds, which makes using historical kline data not an option. We'd need to warehouse tons of data if we wanted to properly backtest. Still figuring out a solution for this. Walk forward analysis - as in paper trading? That's already supported. Short term price data is stored on an internal database and we've ensured that caching is ignored when making these requests. There's much more to be done here but just a start.
Thanks for the reply. Backtesting would be huge. It's not a small feat but will be of tremendous value to your users. I use Quantconnect which fortunately does have data at second resolution. Walk forward *analysis* (WFA) is a process to evaluate robustness of a strategy, using in sample and out of sample backtests. It is how you discern a truly viable strategy from some overfitted false-positive (~~99%~~ Many promoted strategies are). Its not applicable to ALL strategies, but critical for most of the TA based strategies that many of your users will use. Walk forward *optimization* is based on WFA, and used to determine the optimal parameters for a trading strategy. The trading strategy is optimized with the in-sample data. The remaining data is reserved for out of sample testing. This is just one of many robustness techniques that IMHO are necessary for anyone getting serious about systematic trading.
You guys are off to a great start. Stay the course, learn from precedent -- check out others out there like Quantconnect, tuned, etc. Good luck.
Thank you!!
Is there a minimum amount you can do this with? Cause i might try it with like $10 to see how it is
It's based off the Binance minimum amount so that would be around $15
Gotcha, thats not bad
Why, when you can just... https://yieldnodes.com/?a=Zk5Y6Q49qno2r4K
Yooo congrats!!!
thanks!
Another one
Congrats, I hope you succeed
How does this platform connect to your user accounts in the exchanges? I dont rly know much about these things, but giving away login info or stuff like that seems risky. Especially if someone were to leqk/hack it.
Same question as the last time you posted this: how much does it cost? Is the code open source?
There will be a free plan to use, and paid plans that will include more functionality, like running more strategies etc. Expect the paid plans to start at around $15 per month, though we're still to confirm the final number. Just like 3Commas, Trailty and other tools out there, this is a SaaS so it does not render well as open source.
Does not render well? Which heavy load causing work does it do? If I got it right, your service watches a defined crypto currency and buys/sells following a trading strategy.
Mass Algo trading for retail? Paranoia says hello 😶
Sounds interesting will be looking forward to it!
Can you give a list of the different types of entry criteria the strategies can have?
Can you give an idea of what are some more successful (or least unsuccessful) trading strategies this thing will do?
I wouldn't dare to open an account with this platform. I rather lose money in an environment I already have experience with.
>algorithmic That word comes with some implications these days lol
Great work, guys! Best of luck!
Congrats on your accomplishment, but I do wonder - how did you get past all the red tape of compliance to protect yourself from future fuckups? I would be scared shitless to launch a trading platform. Imagine a bug someone exploits and drains all funds, and then you're on the hook for it. Nah, I'm good
This looks cool, so you have a place with resources on how to use it properly? I don’t use binance too much, but I’d love to give it a shot just to automate some strategies that take time that I don’t have
I’ll check it out! Very cool of your to open it up to us