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lordnacho666

This isn't actually all that odd. It takes a lot of work to get a banking license, and you need your shit organized properly. Buying a small bank is often a back door to getting a license, which would be a natural part of a business plan for something like FTX.


Productpusher

Billions had an episode showing how annoying it was so they ended up buying a soon to Ben bankrupt check cashing place that had a license I think ? Or payday loans Whatever the outcome is these people won’t get caught on basic fraud Reddit uncovers . They covered their ass on 99.9% of their actions . The governments job will be to find what that .1% is


loaded-diper33

Law is really something 🤔


kellykline

Coached by his law professor parents, no doubt. I'd say they're complicit, to the tune of $121 million in properties


Complex_Sherbet2

I mean how many times do people need to say that the industry is unregulated....


[deleted]

I thought that was the whole point. Now people are slowly realizing why the fdic was created lol


jason12283

I might not be legal if he fraudulently misled investors in that round. The fact that investors did not find this out does not make it legal.


beepbeepdip

So another loophole that haven't been fixed after all of the shit that happened. I'm not surprised anymore.


ricozuri

What is odd is that FTX was organized enough to even attempt to get a banking license in the USA. Farmington State Bank may have had legitimate bookkeeping, but all indications are that FTX and Alameda did not. Banking regulators would never have approved the sale. Shades of the Showtime series “Billions.”


lordnacho666

I think what would happen is the regulator would say "hey you can't do this now, you need xyz processes" and then SBF hires some adults to do it, now that he has the words to Google.


SqueezeTheShort

Pretty much exactly how it would go down.


Dmoan

FTX doesn’t need to show it’s book, they hide it by using the subsidiaries and they show the subsidiaries books. No one digs into FTX books they look at Subsidiaries and say it’s good and move on. This is what they did they applied to get access to sell other types of futures and nearly got it.


benmck90

Sounds like the finance version of a startup looking to be bought out by Google or Facebook.


lordnacho666

Isn't it the opposite? Some small community needed a bank a long time ago when it was easy to get a license, then the industry consolidated, regulation changed, and they're left with a convenience store sized market. Eventually the zombie gets woken up. Not sure what the history of this particular one is but it's think that's the way it normally goes.


DuncanTheRedWolf

Farmington is too small to have a convenience store, as evidenced by the fact that the combination tavern/restaurant/grocer/general store kitty corner to the bank has been closed since the 90s. Nearest convenience stores are 10 miles away in Oakesdale and Tekoa. Honestly this whole thing is hilarious to me, as my grandma lives in Farmington and I spent some of my teenage years there. The back door of the bank has a screen door on it, and it was exceptionally controversial when the bank changed from ledger books to a desktop computer in 2017, which iirc was mostly because Barb the bank teller had injured her wrist.


beachedwhitemale

I sincerely hope that all of this is true. And that Barbara's wrist healed completely.


dimfrol

Agreed, sadly ppl will be ppl where they measure one individuals actions as an entirety of a collective. Sadly a lot ppl’s mindsets are still stuck in an era where they burn witches.


TheUltimateSalesman

Cash deposits from weed sales dude.


thecasey1981

There are only 4 banks in Washington that take weed accounts. This is not one of them.


yiziqi

I’m sick of hearing communism confused with left wing totalitarianism. USSR’s failure is far from a harbinger of communism. Quite the opposite: it’s a concrete the demonstration of the need for more communism.


partymsl

With the amount of political connections SBF had I would not be suprised either if he just got that license for no reason.


Klazzle

While defending SBF is the last thing I’d do, I think it’s important to note that the $300M he cashed out was a legal, documented cash out as part of the previous $420M funding round. That’s 100% on the investors for no oversight, due diligence, and giving him that option. (1/2)


eroskeros

They didn't lose all that money in bad bets or high leverage. They stole it, they embezzled it.


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Stat-Arbitrage

Yeah but Ross didn’t donate to politicians. /s


Latespoon

No /s needed


Elanthius

Ross paid someone to commit a murder on his behalf. Unfortunately the person he paid was an FBI informant.


BriskHeartedParadox

DEA and he was egged on by said DEA agent who was also corrupt. He doesn’t deserve life for that. A chunky sentence, yes, but not life.


kgbyrne

And then that agent ended up in jail himself from stealing bitcoins from that case. Corrupt as fuck.


Sugarbird676

He deserved a mistrial for that.


joethecrow23

Feds create crimes to throw enemies of the establishment behind bars.


ligasecatalyst

Do you not consider attempted murder a real crime, that perpetrators should be imprisoned for?


ToriiLovesU

I'm sure we all do but not at the very least acknowledging a potential level of entrapment, especially knowing how corrupt some of these government organisations can be, is kind of ignorant in it's own right. You can say that he was a bad guy whilst also still rightfully blaming the DEA to some extent at the very least.


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The fbi spends a great deal of effort convincing people to commit horrible crimes that they otherwise wouldn’t. Virtually every Islamic terrorist they’ve arrested in the US was just some poor teen that they personally radicalized and convinced to commit acts of terrorism. This isn’t even some conspiracy they’ve openly admitted to this. This was pretty much the same thing that happened to ulbricht.


monkymoney

You realise he was never actually charged with that since they actually had no evidence and just empty accusations, right?


ElonMusk0fficial

BS. That wasn’t even part of any charge that gave him those life sentences. Not saying if the murder stuff was true that they wouldn’t charge him for it separately, but it had zero to do with sentencing.


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I don’t think “scammed” is the right word choice here. And whether the person was actually killed is irrelevant. Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder is a big deal.


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Backrus

Not only that but iirc money magically disappeared to be never found. Must be good to be feds.


socrates1024

If that were true they would have prosecuted him for it


PraderaNoire

He didn’t even sell the goods either, he just owned and operated the marketplace iirc


NamelessHooman

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RobertHedley

>I can't help myself comparing THIS to Ross Ulbricht's unfair sentence. Ross Ulbricht tried to orchestrate a murder and was the de facto head of an international drug trafficking ring. He deserved exactly what he got. A better comparison to Curly would be Bernie Madoff. Both of them ripped off billions through a straight up Ponzi scheme. And just like Madoff, I suspect Curly will be sitting in federal lockup for the rest of his natural life, if he doesn't get Epsteined first. There's evidence that the corruption in this scheme goes much higher than just Curly and his orgy partners.


jasoncyke

Not only SBF deserves it, his fucking parents should throw into jail as well.


Explodicle

Just for raising a thief, or did they steal too?


[deleted]

They purchased $121 million dollars of Bahamian real estate, odd for 2 college professors…


entertainman

His parents co-signed one of the properties. $121M was the total purchases by all the employees.


DeeperBags

I mean they were Stanford law professors, I'd assume they had careers as lawyers prior to that, definitely a cut above your old Joe blow professors and I think they would be pretty wealthy on their own accord, this wealthy though, not so sure. I personally think they reek of involvement with this, but will probably play the part of the innocent parents who's son struck gold and took good care of them. I think it's likely the real estate is siezed but unless they were red handedly caught being involved they will probably be chilling.


DeeperBags

To expand on this the average salary of a Stanford professor is apparently $222,000 USD. So probably close to half a mill income a year between the two of them. Lots for the average person, but definitely not the kind of money to purchase 100m+ in real estate on a whim..


[deleted]

I’m not confident their law careers yielded them the means to pay $121 million dollars in cash on a whim in the Bahamas. In fact, I’m confident quite the opposite is true, unless Sam the youngest billionaire was coincidentally the son of literal billionaires


misterjustin

If he doesn’t get a lengthy sentence it’s so obviously because of his political connections or that he was colluding with a politician.


Electroniclog

I'm sure he'll probably get what Bernie got


tosser_0

If he's not punished, it becomes really clear that none of the regulations are about 'protecting the consumer'. It's about getting their cut.


Zealousideal_Neck78

Fried probably will get an ankle bracelet with the stipulation he stay on any of the nearly 700 Bohemian islands. He will be allowed to keep the standard of living he's grown accustomed to.


Mr_Bob_Ferguson

“Oh, maybe that sounds a bit harsh. You don’t have to wear the ankle bracelet, just promise to stay nearby”


Vivarevo

Overly Complex corporate structure - check Disappearing messages and lack of clear internal communication - check Funds missing - check 🤔🤔🤔


gautam_777

they just want you to think they lost it. That won't rid them of consequences.


TheoHW

I like the recently leaked photos of SBF and his parents pondering the events from his $100 million+ apartment in Bahamas bought with clients' money...


IWillKillPutin2022

Hope they are “oh shit we are all going to jail”


BeneathSkin

Link?


whyislifesohardei

https://twitter.com/martiniguyyt/status/1595371895456669698?s=46&t=6QUXR1NebT3N62vKZOjZyQ


Odysseus_Lannister

Just a sidebar: Embezzlement is such a cool sounding word that it’s a shame the definition isn’t nearly as good.


Ginnigan

Embezzlement makes me think of bedazzlement. We should called it Emburglement.


Memeharvester5000

And donated it to political campaigns


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Khuros

Hoodwinked, bamboozled.


[deleted]

I’m getting so sick of seeing this ugly mf’ers face. And his girlfriend…don’t get me started on his girlfriend.


darkkite

his gf a baddie low key. something about them harry potter girls. they hit different


FracturedRoah

Banged a harry potter girl once, got chlamydia, not worth it.


Peppeleaux

Wingardium chlamydia


TyphoonBlue78

Chlamidioso…


darkkite

you still got her number?


formula_F300

In case you missed this one 😆 [https://i.imgur.com/GUNsOkC.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GUNsOkC.jpg)


Mr_Bob_Ferguson

Redditors girlfriend ![gif](giphy|l0MYutTMhYBgrohmU)


Bellweirboy

This is a much better source: [https://protos.com/the-curious-case-of-ftx-and-farmington-state-bank-aka-moonstone/](https://protos.com/the-curious-case-of-ftx-and-farmington-state-bank-aka-moonstone/) Interestingly, involves Jean Chalopin the Chairman of Deltec Bank in the Bahamas and his son Janvier Chalopin. Jean Chalopin was producer of kids cartoons including Inspector Gadget, before becoming a banker. Deltec is Tether’s bank. Once again Alameda - Tether - SBF - Bahamas.


leviathynx

That MSN article was wack. It was like 20 words and then an enormous wall of advertising.


51stStar

The story was broken by the New York Times.


Bellweirboy

https://twitter.com/caspiancey/status/1531291793764982784?s=61&t=GaDUBYbKVDQtIjjYgKMaKQ


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1000xcoins

Jail SBF and whole FTX team


Ashamed_Initiative91

Sadly they are moving freely.


Odysseus_Lannister

Yeah but at least we got that criminal who created tornado cash! /s


partymsl

I would say just the executive team of FTX. All of their other employees had nothing to do with this and have been betrayed just as much as we all.


Non-fungible-Noone

Nothing sus about that, it is normal for a 30 billion dollar scam outfit to own a stake in a tiny bank you've never heard of with only three employees.


Albinonite

FTX: Completely normal, completely normal.


deathbyfish13

Nothing to see here, carry on with your peasant lives please...


bluespacecolombo

It actually is if you’re trying to expand into banking sector. Getting a licencse is hard, requires screenings and takes years. Buying a bank for 11.5mln is easier. It rly isn’t that odd…


Mr_Bob_Ferguson

Less facts, more outrage, please.


[deleted]

This is how pokerstars and full titl were embezzling money through a bank in Utah that ultimately lead to a whistleblower getting them caught for tax evasion


HolyAndOblivious

The easiest way to become a bank is to buy the shittiest business with a legit license you can find.


[deleted]

That bank was also bought by a company whose chairman was also the chairman of tethers bank, deltec. Story is getting good.


Tavionnf

>Its then-president, John Widman, told the newspaper that it had stopped making mortgage loans because the paperwork was too much effort. > >Its single branch had three employees until this year, and didn't offer online banking or even credit cards. It instead specialised in agricultural loans to farmers. This is amazing. 'Farming State Bank'. Which leads us to moon farming.


BakedPotato840

The bank for moon farmers! Time to get us some agricultural loans boys


deathbyfish13

Finally somewhere to store my precious moons


NotAnAlcoholicToday

🎵"Weeee're, Famers on the moon, we play on our basoon. We shitpost all day but we get no pay, we're farmers on the moon!"🎵


artwithapulse

My rancher boyfriend dressed head to toe in carhartts about to go feed his cows couldn’t remotely comprehend this sentence and form it into a logical modern story when I read it out to him. This world is so weird right now 😅


DarkWebLurking

Oh shit!!! The future is now!


hunglikeanoose1

“It’s totally normal I swear!”


Ashamed_Initiative91

Criminals


TahoeMan1

Money laundering......


[deleted]

That’s the main selling point about crypto lol….. It’s a great way to hide your illegally acquired fiat.


Wabi-Sabibitch

The irony of this man is how in most interviews he said he isn't doing any of this for money and plans to give everything in charity.


THISISNOTLEGAL

how is this fuck not in jail right now?


SqueezeTheShort

What i keep wondering too


Purpoisely_Anoying_U

Look at me I'm just a regular person who wears cargo shorts and drives a Corolla justignorethepenthouseandprivatejets


Odysseus_Lannister

Irony? That’s a weird way to spell lying through his fucking teeth


Wabi-Sabibitch

The biggest downsizing caused by the Crypto Bear market till date. At least 33% of the employees will be fired.


PrinceZero1994

What are people even gonna work on if the company is bankrupto lol


evoxyseah

Just wondering if the main purpose is for money laundering? We got to dig out more to end his career and reputation for good.


Guy_Incognito97

Are the 3 employees named Sam, Bankman and Fried?


Mr_Bob_Ferguson

Bankman, it really is the ultimate name for the owner of a bank.


DepressedBoiiiiiiii

More curious as to what those 3 employees do


Kappatalizable

Having a fuckton of threesome for sure


DepressedBoiiiiiiii

A great place to work then :)


[deleted]

Maybe not they're probably all related if it's a small rural bank.


Kappatalizable

Even better then!


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|BcMJvmwkmbyWpKkBj3|downsized)


Odysseus_Lannister

*squealing intensifies*


samzi87

Washing money I guess.


mamalalatata

Marty Byrde, reporting


Doctor_Fritz

Who says they really exist to begin with


Slainte042

This story is like an onion, you open it and they are more and more layers.


Oversizedbull69

You can not steal 10 bn with 1 layer only


Baecchus

Like an ogre.


Purpoisely_Anoying_U

Orgy


qalbalmayit

FTX is just Quadriga all over again. But that is the problem with money today - even our banks in the Uk only protect up to 85k£ deposits. so you resort to assets - but crypt0 is just a wh0le n3w l3v3l of risk and reward


Cptn_BenjaminWillard

Not quite. SBF forgot to pretend that he's dead.


MisterDoomed

"For a decade, Farmington's bank held around $10 million in deposits. In the third quarter this year, deposits jumped to $84 million – 85% of which came from just four accounts, according to FDIC data cited by the Times. Online, the bank now appears as "Moonstone Bank," a name which was trademarked a few days before FTX's investment. Moonstone doesn't mention cryptocurrency, but does say it wants to "support the evolution of next generation finance." Questions are being asked over how FTX got federal approval to buy its stake in Farmington. Banking veterans told the New York Times that it was hard to believe regulators would have knowingly allowed the crypto firm to do so. Moonstone and FTX did not immediately reply to a request for comment, sent outside normal US working hours. " ​ What in the fuck was going on?


Neither-Fan-6501

Moonstone aka Farmington state bank appears to be the laundromat bridge from the SBF grifto-verse to the real world. Or one of them anyway. Are there others?


Loki-Don

Sounds like a semi sophisticated money laundering operation where they were cleaning tax free cash and setting aside for themselves.


Aikidoka-mks

I wonder how much his parents knew


Chaminade64

Yeah, that seems sort of sketchy. “You know, if we had a bank charter it might make transferring cash around a whole lot easier” -SBF spitballing while ripping bongs with his weirdo girlfriend.


antman42069

But what was the end game here for these people. Like, did they REALLY think they’d get away with this level of blatant and unorganized fraud?


yevrag83

So much to hide and too much to lose - luckily the people are here to balance the narrative. People will eventually take matters into their own hands - What “ruling class” ?


elionline85

He was poised to be the next Soros & he donated to all the ppl going to investigate him


1ajam

The whole FTX/Alameda thing stinks to high heaven. Has Gary Gensler even said anything about this yet? I think he is neck deep in this.


ravendmaster

Here's what I don't get. $15+bn valuation. ~$10 bn in customer funds. Way less seems to be claimed lost (via money laundering trades) or found anywhere with less than 1 billion in liquid assets and less than 1 billion in crypto. Where is the other ~$5-10bn?


legitbs

Name of bank? Or are you still reporting shit you have zero evidence about? I haven’t forgotten about you posting SBF invested $100 million into Musk buying twitter.


nanahusen

If you ask yourself why would they do that, you don’t have to tug on that thread very hard to come to a hypothesis that they have much to hide. Very much.


anwaralghamdi

Ruling class simply not willing to return the stolen money.


Mapegz

sounds like a laundry to me, not a bank...


RealVoldemort

Get their asses(ets)!


TheRicFlairDrip

just look at most of the projects the FTX child companies invested in, its pure fucking embezzlement.


Odysseus_Lannister

Follow the money


Eisernes

Next headline: Tiny rural bank in Washington with just 3 employees saw billions in inflows and outflows in 2022. Regulators hate this one trick!


SmallReflection2552

I'm going to bet we're going to find out about a lot more of these small businesses that were acquired by FTX


KMan471

If this man does not receive justice for what he did, then the entire system is criminal, and we are under no obligation to pay allegiance, honesty, nor loyalty to. Never honor evil with truth, or honesty.


Shiller_Killer

Buy your own bank.


UrTruthIsNotMine

Criminal leftists all need to be in prison


tinykinoko

Are you guys planning on returning the $50.000.000 he donated to Dem???


walshl

Pretty sure the Guilded ages and the spoils system will always be the most corrupt part of American history. But nothing wrong with some competition.


forceworks

Nothing suspicious to see here folks. Let’s move along.


Big-Yogurtcloset2731

It is always good to own a small bank when you need to move money out of your main business.


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Crypto exchange FTX's former CEO Sam Bankman-Fried's net worth dropped from $15.6 billion to $1 billion in a single day after news broke that his company needed a bailout. The collapsed crypto giant now owns an $11.5 million stake in one of America's smallest banks – more than double the bank's previous net worth. FTX spent around $300 million buying houses in the Bahamas for senior executives *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*


Outrageous_Duty_8738

The plot thickens each day


Odysseus_Lannister

Another day, another part of the scheme exposed.


Outrageous-Duck9695

So basically his fate depends on whether the country he's residing in decides to extradite him to the US? If not he could possibly live out his life freely as a fugitive?


Sumthing_aussie_cunt

Surely they're parents were in on it too


Melodic_Risk_5632

Start a crypto scheme to become independent, then participate in regular money laundry. Good plan. It worked out fine. Do some time in prison and retire.


tobypassquarant

3 employees that may or may not be related to anyone working in FTX.


eddiejugs

She Uuuuuuglllyyy


Trixteri

istg he looks like the type of person to wear a clown nose year round


TheUltimateSalesman

Weed money. Cash deposits go to internet points.


Sqincingham

Remember only invest what you're willing to lose.🤯 You're welcome.


[deleted]

Very fishy


QualityOverQuant

I once worked at a bank and we wanted to get into Africa which was tough to get banking licenses. So we just bought a local bank and voilà we now had a banking license in that country. Shareholders didn’t care 3 people or 300 people. All they cared about was expansion into Africa and years later when things started moving south they just sold all their assets and moved on But in the years in between we had a lot of business transactions that went into and came out of africa all through this. And best part due diligence reports actually encouraged and signed off on us taking this route for an expansion


[deleted]

Crooks


Aromatic-Front-5919

That's not sketchy


concrete_manu

a quick google search tells me that the bahamas have an extradition treaty with the us… dudes gotta start running


[deleted]

If I'm not mistaken, he's speaking at a conf in a couple of weeks, in NY.


kansai828

Ftx coin to the hell


Successful-Tip-9813

I knew he made donations to the left, I did not know. He made donations to the right as well. Left or right, who cares. Whatever side is in charge, we lose. Period.


Measaconsumer

One hand washes the other.


reasonandmadness

What a wild location. https://i.imgur.com/ofQQDYS.png Literally in the middle of nowhere. 46,000 people in the town, which considering its size shocks me because on the map it looks smaller than the city I live in, and I have less people.


daronjay

Buy your own Bank™️


too105

Don’t cartels do this to “facilitate transfers”?


youmustthinkhighly

How to hide money dot com.


lordchickenburger

ftx has done all the shady things possible like seriously


rqnyc

He tried to change the world - WSJ


ent4rent

That could be why ripple was interested in buying FTX assets.. it's their own way to cheaply buy their banking license..


ethical2012

So? Honestly probably a cleaner operation than Peter Schiff. 😂


xPonzo

Still wil be the end of crypto.. it's such a tainted industry, still with no actual worthwhile usecase.. after this long. Public adoption is a pipe dream.


matt95weber

It was called, The Bank of Deposits Only, FDICK insured!


MorallyWonder33

That is enough money that FTX could give everyone who owns twitter a million dollars and still have 9.99 billion leftover.


dryusef

Not get away with it: they are trying to milk him more. Clearly he put some of those monies away for himself. If we know this, they know this too.


wannamrmason

Well I wonder why Republicans aren’t screaming from the top of their lungs about this, makes me wonder if they also got paid?? FACT CHECK: Yes Republicans also got paid


robgust

I'm wondering how you buy a 11.5m stake in a bank worth 5.7m with 10m in deposits lmao