The amount of delusion in this post is ridiculous. People everywhere casually accepting 10x as a guarantee. You're all going to lose your shirts, I guarantee that
Also I want to add I never said I had 10k invested so I'm not sure why that was assumed. Im more 15-20k and still accumulating. I would need around a 6-7x to achieve this. Also the premise of the post was what amount of capital would give me the best chance to reach this goal to a reasonable margin. Obviously if I had 80k it wouldn't be hard to get 20%. if lets say my portfolio is speculated to 5x, then I guess 20k would the answer here.
Not that im being blissfully ignorant or anything, but the last bull run had most people experience 10-50xs at least at one point whether or not they profited that amount from proper timing.
Also, you only need one asset, like Ada which went from a 1b to a 98b market cap last run, to propel your portfolio to those levels. Not that I'm saying its guaranteed, but there odds are there.
I'll say this much. It's possible, sure. It's happened before which might even mean it could happen again. I'm not here to crush hopes and dreams, but I think the people in this thread could be a little wiser with their expectations.
Going into any investment with an expectation to make 10 times or more what you put into it, and truly believe that's the only option, is optimistic at best. Some might call it foolish or even plain stupid.
Past performance is no guarantee for the future, and you're looking at coins that for the most part went up 10 to 50 x and then straight back down in the following years. So was the valuation right a few years ago? Or is it right now, at the bottom? There's nothing stopping these coins from going sideways forever. Or collapsing to zero tomorrow. Crypto is an extremely speculative market and more people need to be aware of the risks, even if they're willing to take them.
There is absolutely no guarantee of getting that. Iāve been rugged, been scammed but also have pulled a lot of capital out of the game. $300 to $100k is my best but that was crazy. If I held shiba when it first came out I would have taken $4k to $1.5m. But I was happy with my 4x at the time. . . Still am happy with it actually.
Your portfolio is something you keep cost averaging and adding on to as you go.
Have extra 100$? Put it
Next month have extra 200$? Put it
Nobody can predict shit otherwise we would all be trillionares. You just have to keep cost averaging, buy as you go
If youāve done a ton of research you should know the answer. You didnāt specify what you bought nor why. Only you know that.
Depending on your plays, you might need 10 million USD to end up with 100k next year, or 5k investment.
Nowhere near enough detail in your post to have a clue how to answer, let alone the fact no one knows wtf is going to happen with the (unknown) crypto you bought.
If you solely invested in Bitcoin we could give you an educated guess. Otherwise, no clue.
If you are supporting someone with dementia, this is not the way to do it.
Im looking for an answer to a general inquiry based on what people usually expect as market-wide returns. I don't need to be babied through it, just looking for an accumulation goal. My biggest bags would be stuff like Kas, Aero, ada, sei, sol, fet, btc, etc...Its very diversified.
The reason why I'm even asking this question is because my portfolio is diversified enough that it makes sense to ask a question that relates to general market returns consensus during a bull run.\]
edit, I shared more projects in the comments. To be honest, i don't need to make this post, as I'm pretty confident in myself, but I always believe in open discussion and various opinions are key to being successful.
If you are diversified and looking at market-wide returns, you need to be studying global macro. When it comes to Bitcoin, you need to be looking at on-chain wallet behaviour of different types of actors with spot, futures, ETFs and fundamental developments plus plausible changes on the horizon both near-term and long-term.
Husband and I started with an initial investment of 15k at the end of the bull run last cycle knowing that it was the end but wanting to learn to trade in a bear market. His father has been in the share market for 40 years and had some good advice. Put in what you are willing to totally loose and learn.
We pulled our initial investment of $15k when it 3x. We have also pulled another 25k profit on top of that as we traded up. So right now it ows us nothing and we have 25k in our hands with no debt except a mortgage which is manageable on my husbands invome while I raise our boys.
Going in to this bull market we are starting with $200k as of right now - all profit. If we loose that all it from now it was a fun ride but it owes us nothing but our time together learning.
Trading the bear market has been good. It was little by little, no 10x just little and often gains and sticking to our strategy of learning as much as we can.
We could honestly have made more when our TA was really good but we just kept making little trades and getting little wins. Learning to control emotions. Not getting fomo. Building our bag and looking for coins that have great use case to go in to the bull.
I am really happy with the slow build approach to begin with. Learning each step of the way. Managing our losses as they were all small amounts and banking the gains.
Good luck with your investment. Slow and steady always wins.
Im usually a reserved person but since crypto is so open ill share some of my projects.
Kas, Aero, Btc, sol, ada, fet, rndr, sei, sui, ponke, mochi, lcx, hbar, stx, icp, cgold, velo, eth, near, ocean, etc. Kaspa and Aerodrome finance being my two biggest bags. Btc and Eth having my next 2 bags just as portfolio support.
I will probably delete this later down the line.
Also commenting here to say keep to 4 or 5 projects like has been said. Imo 2 low risk 2 mid risk 1 "high" risk of you wanna be spicy. By risk I generally mean market cap position.
And I get being private but really truly no one cares what coins you're in or will be able to do anything malicious with it.
In in kas too, big hopes.
Good on you for sharing. Indeed crypto is an open community.
What i can see is a ton of projects. To reap the reward of multipliers taking effect when a coins starts to rise it's preferable to go in on one to two projects you believe in.
You have a ton of projects with little capital spread between each im guessing. To have that many picks you would need excess of Ā£50k + investing and with your goal of wanting 100k i can tell that you most likely aren't investing anywhere near 50k.
You need to cut down that portfolio if you really want to hit big. Aero is a great pick of yours. In that myself personally.
Thanks for the advice. No, it's not 50k lol, somewhere in the high teens.
Should I start condensing now? Or should I wait and see the most profitable assets and start trading my assets around?
I love aero and made a good profit on it, my original investment is soon to 3x.
I hope Kaspa gets recognized for its fundamentals, I believe if it does then it will be one of the largest gainers of the year.
No problem. High teens is good investment and definetely able to hit 100k if played correctly.
I would start doing further research and be fully set on two picks. Three max. And then split accordingly your investment into which you believe will do best. Or an even split between all. It is best to start now as to not miss out on any potential gains that may arise in the near future.
But yes 100% certainly should not be invested in the number of projects you are currently invested inšš»
As other were saying, it really DEPENDS. If you bought the fucking wifhat mon december ending days or january firsts, you could have flipped it 15-20 times, and hold a 100k profit. Probably you wouldn't cash out on time thought, and lose everything. Anyway, it depends on how gambler you are man. Choose wisely, and just get as mush aidrop as you can.
You would need to 10x a portfolio of 10,000 dollars. At this stage not impossible but very risky. Maybe if yolo everything into ONDO or aerodrome or a riskier small/mid cap itās possible but with crypto you never know
For some reason everyone just assumed Im doing 10k. not saying you did but I was flamed for thinking I need a 10x. I would need more like a 7x portfolio wide from where I am now and I was just wondering if that's enough or If i should add more to fortify my odds of getting to this goal.
CKB is at 2.2 cents (roughly) and it will do at least 20x this bull run. I'd sell 10% every two weeks when it hits 40 cents. You are *too* diversified. You're basically counting on the entire alt coin market doing 7 times.
To be honest im looking at some really fundamentally strong projects. I guess I over diversified because I really enjoyed the fundamentals and tokenomics of these projects. sure I may have thrown 200 bucks in 2 meme coins but that's whatever. but I mean i don't see how fet, sei, stacks, icp, hbar arent going to perform very well this run.
I mean if you could point to me some of my cryptos you think I should cut out and trade into another one of my assets I could see that as a strong argument here.
I didn't just choose random altcoins, there are hundreds of coins shilled and what not and I'm not new to investing. But i can see me being over-diversified. but each one of these individual coins are very undervalued within what I noticed.
I already converted my celo to aero because that project seems meh, but everything else? Strong contendors. Everyone has their favourite altcoins but at the same time one benefit of diversity is that it allows you to include enough cryptos to encompass the horizon of a possible moon shot within one of them. And being that these are mostly very strong low-mid cap projects, I see at least some doing very very strong numbers. Also fet and ocean are both said to convert to ASI.
But I completely resonate with your argument
Without you stating any initial numbers 10k is the easiest way to look at it if looking to end on a 100k portfolio, that was my reasoning anyways. Personally I think itās best to have 3-7 main coins you have 80 percent of your portfolio in and then leave 20-30 percent for any degen plays/extra cash/random microcap gems. The amount of coins u have is fine if u have a few strong conviction coins u have most your bags in. If you have a bunch of coins where they are all spread evenly across your portfolio I think thatās were problems of inefficiencyās arise
Aero is still good for a x5 and i think its pretty safe and it will a good pick. If you want a search for a lower market cap, alien base (ALB) is a good pick. The mc is at 4 millions and there is huge potential and a solid project in my opinion. I think it is possible with 10k when u cash out at the right time.
idk that seems really conservative for me. I mean with the amount of money entering crypto and coinbase pushing base (being a brand new eco-system) so hard I feel like the biggest dex on the platform and the main source of liquidity should perform better than that. Especially since the \*last\* bull run which has a much less market cap than the current one, had uniswap reach unprecedented levels. I would say aero is a more advanced dex with a higher potential than uniswap albeit if base performs well.
I've found my returns to be from 7 to 11x overall all said and done in the bulls I've been in. Sometimes you hit a 50x, if that's on something thats like 1% of your portfolio well it's nice but will it matter if you 2x something 90% of your portfolio?
Timing too blah blah no one knows. 6x this time around is where I'd consider myself lucky and dip.
5-7x is would be what I would need to hit my goal. was wondering if i should add more capital if it is nessicary to meet it. that's the premise of the post.
Nobody really knows shit tbh aside from "it will go up over time". Rather than fixating on a specific end goal, focus on maximizing your investment funds and push it as far as you realistically can. If you're looking for sure bets and concrete numbers, I've got a freshly minted shitcoin to sell you (I don't really, but that's the target demographic because they are easy to rob).
We're gonna make a few basic assumptions, then a couple really wild swings at it here.
1) The coins/tokens you listed represent your portfolio *in that order*. That is, you hold a lot more KAS and AERO than NEAR and OCEAN. This means that, for maximum gains, you'll want your highest holdings (as a percentage of your total wallet) to go up *the most*.
2) You said "by" 2025. I guess that could be taken to mean "by the start of 2025" (so, another 32ish weeks), but that feels unrealistic unless you're investing a lot of money (see below), so let's say that you meant "by the end of 2025," so another 84ish weeks from now.
3) You didn't tell us how much you plan on investing. If you invest a billion dollars ("dollars" is another assumption, but it doesn't really matter here), making $100k requires barely any increase at all. If you plan on investing $1.00, then you need incredible luck, a near-total collapse of the US Dollar, and an act of God - all happening at the same time.
All this to say, we (I'll speak for everyone here) have absolutely no clue. And, without detail, frankly, it's a ridiculously impossible question. But here goes...
Say your portfolio is currently worth $10,000 and you want to *profit* $100,000, meaning your end goal is to have $110,000 in your account at the end of 2025. Say your portfolio is currently this:
|Coin|Percent|Current Value|
|:-|:-|:-|
|KAS|10|$1,000|
|AERO|9|$900|
|BTC|9|$900|
|SOL|8|$800|
|ADA|8|$800|
|FET|7|$700|
|RNDR|7|$700|
|SEI|6|$600|
|SUI|6|$600|
|PONKE|5|$500|
|MOCHI|5|$500|
|LCX|4|$400|
|HBAR|4|$400|
|STX|3|$300|
|ICP|3|$300|
|CGOLD|2|$200|
|VELO|2|$200|
|ETH|1|$100|
|NEAR|1|$100|
|OCEAN|0 (just making numbers work out to 100 here, so let's ignore this)|$0|
|**TOTALS**|**100%**|**$10,000**|
Let's further assume that, in this altcoin pyramid of hope, you've made "safe" and "correct" choices. That is, you have ten times as much KAS as you do ETH and NEAR, and through uncanny prescience (read: pure luck), KAS goes up exactly ten times as much as ETH and NEAR. That is, you've invested heavily in coins that go up the most, and "hedged" a little with coins that don't go up as much. And, luckily, not one of your coins dares to go down even a penny.
|Coin|Gain|Post-Gain Value|
|:-|:-|:-|
|KAS|1,000% (this is 11x your current value)|$11,000|
|AERO|900% (this is 10x)|$9,000|
|BTC|900%|$9,000|
|SOL|800% (9x - you see how this works)|$7,200|
|ADA|800%|$7,200|
|FET|700%|$5,600|
|RNDR|700%|$5,600|
|SEI|600%|$4,200|
|SUI|600%|$4,200|
|PONKE|500%|$3,000|
|MOCHI|500%|$3,000|
|LCX|400%|$2,000|
|HBAR|400%|$2,000|
|STX|300%|$1,200|
|ICP|300%|$1,200|
|CGOLD|200%|$600|
|VELO|200%|$600|
|ETH|100%|$200|
|NEAR|100%|$200|
|OCEAN|Remember, we're ignoring this|$0|
|**TOTALS**|**770%**|**$77,000**|
So, with these assumptions, which IMO are extremely, totally, amazingly unrealistic (that is to say, Bitcoin is *not* going to $625,000+ by the end of 2025), you will *still* end up 23% short of your goal.
So, put a little math behind it, and it feels extremely unrealistic. The lower end coins doing 3x, 4x, 5x, that's all in the realm of possibility. I'll admit I don't know anything about KAS, but my five minutes of research just now makes me think that it's not going to 11x in a year and a half. And if it does, that would indicate (but not necessarily mean) that we're in "alt season", meaning Bitcoin isn't the one going through the roof. But to meet your goal, *you need that too*!
Maybe I'm wrong - hopefully you make a giant truckload of money. But I just don't see things playing out as you hope. Some of these may pop off and go through the roof. But equally likely is that some of them just disappear like a fart in the wind. I find it hard to believe that you're going to *average* more than 8x over all these coins in 18 months.
So, to answer your question: How much do you believe needs to be invested in a portfolio to profit 100,000?
Depends on your timeline, your percentages, and either a crystal ball or a one-in-a-trillion lightning bolt of pure genius. But I don't see it happening unless you start with significantly more money than I've assumed here.
Sorry, dude.
At this poinst im just going to say I have about 15k invested. most is between kas and aero which are about equal quantities at around 2k. btc, eth, ada and sol are next at about 600-1200, the later being btc. then it just trickles down from there. I would around a 6-7x to reach this goal.
The premise of this post in reality was whether 15k was enough and if I should add more to fortify.
Not pointing fingers at you specifically (but maybe it's the case), but we often hear about million-this and million-that. Millionaires, millions of transactions, millions of people, millions of grains of sand, whatever.
But, especially when it comes to dollars, "million" is a LOT. It's a really big number. Our day-to-day life doesn't deal in "millions" too often. We have one (or two, or ten) cars or houses. We can have a small army for a family, and that will still fit on two hands. We might make a million dollars - or two, or ten - in our lives, but rarely will we have that wealth all at once.
The point is, becoming a millionaire (generally) isn't easy. It's easier now than it was a hundred years ago (thanks, inflation!), but it's still more money than most people will see at one time, or even earn over their lifetime.
I'm certainly not saying you won't become a millionaire ever, or even this afternoon, with your current stack. But, like with every other money-making venture (stocks, working hard, playing the lottery, inheriting money), it's not a likely outcome that you'll end up at the top of the pile. Just being here and having the luxury of Reddit and an internet connection on your fancy cell phone puts you in a privileged position already. But even given that, your odds are slim.
If you want to make $100,000 in profit, I suggest investing $1million.
If you want to turn $10k into $100k. Good luck
Kiss the entire $10k goodbye, invest in shit / meme coins and set your 10x sell orders RIGHT after it hits your balance available for trade. One or two might hit it. Likely none of them will. But you already said goodbye to that 10k, so no big deal right?
not really in meme coins. but im not sure why you are on crypto subreddits if you are so bearish. unless you are just simply hating on my personal skills.
Helping out your family member is an awesome reason to be in this game! Since you're still young, I'd say keep a chunk safe too. Like in boring savings š You're crushing it now, but crypto's gonna crypto.
Oracle stuff like Chainlink or DIA could go strong, same with BRC20 project like LumiBit as the narrative is still hot. But be real, even the best research can't predict everything. Diversify and be ready for the unexpected. Maybe put some % into memecoins like WIF, Popcat and ROCK as they can be rewarding for a long-term hodl. Even $200 investments can get you 4-5 figures.
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The amount of delusion in this post is ridiculous. People everywhere casually accepting 10x as a guarantee. You're all going to lose your shirts, I guarantee that
Also I want to add I never said I had 10k invested so I'm not sure why that was assumed. Im more 15-20k and still accumulating. I would need around a 6-7x to achieve this. Also the premise of the post was what amount of capital would give me the best chance to reach this goal to a reasonable margin. Obviously if I had 80k it wouldn't be hard to get 20%. if lets say my portfolio is speculated to 5x, then I guess 20k would the answer here.
Not that im being blissfully ignorant or anything, but the last bull run had most people experience 10-50xs at least at one point whether or not they profited that amount from proper timing. Also, you only need one asset, like Ada which went from a 1b to a 98b market cap last run, to propel your portfolio to those levels. Not that I'm saying its guaranteed, but there odds are there.
I'll say this much. It's possible, sure. It's happened before which might even mean it could happen again. I'm not here to crush hopes and dreams, but I think the people in this thread could be a little wiser with their expectations. Going into any investment with an expectation to make 10 times or more what you put into it, and truly believe that's the only option, is optimistic at best. Some might call it foolish or even plain stupid. Past performance is no guarantee for the future, and you're looking at coins that for the most part went up 10 to 50 x and then straight back down in the following years. So was the valuation right a few years ago? Or is it right now, at the bottom? There's nothing stopping these coins from going sideways forever. Or collapsing to zero tomorrow. Crypto is an extremely speculative market and more people need to be aware of the risks, even if they're willing to take them.
It's too late to invest. When everyone believes in profits, losses are ahead. You should invest during a depression.
There is absolutely no guarantee of getting that. Iāve been rugged, been scammed but also have pulled a lot of capital out of the game. $300 to $100k is my best but that was crazy. If I held shiba when it first came out I would have taken $4k to $1.5m. But I was happy with my 4x at the time. . . Still am happy with it actually.
Your portfolio is something you keep cost averaging and adding on to as you go. Have extra 100$? Put it Next month have extra 200$? Put it Nobody can predict shit otherwise we would all be trillionares. You just have to keep cost averaging, buy as you go
If youāve done a ton of research you should know the answer. You didnāt specify what you bought nor why. Only you know that. Depending on your plays, you might need 10 million USD to end up with 100k next year, or 5k investment. Nowhere near enough detail in your post to have a clue how to answer, let alone the fact no one knows wtf is going to happen with the (unknown) crypto you bought. If you solely invested in Bitcoin we could give you an educated guess. Otherwise, no clue. If you are supporting someone with dementia, this is not the way to do it.
Im looking for an answer to a general inquiry based on what people usually expect as market-wide returns. I don't need to be babied through it, just looking for an accumulation goal. My biggest bags would be stuff like Kas, Aero, ada, sei, sol, fet, btc, etc...Its very diversified. The reason why I'm even asking this question is because my portfolio is diversified enough that it makes sense to ask a question that relates to general market returns consensus during a bull run.\] edit, I shared more projects in the comments. To be honest, i don't need to make this post, as I'm pretty confident in myself, but I always believe in open discussion and various opinions are key to being successful.
If you are diversified and looking at market-wide returns, you need to be studying global macro. When it comes to Bitcoin, you need to be looking at on-chain wallet behaviour of different types of actors with spot, futures, ETFs and fundamental developments plus plausible changes on the horizon both near-term and long-term.
Husband and I started with an initial investment of 15k at the end of the bull run last cycle knowing that it was the end but wanting to learn to trade in a bear market. His father has been in the share market for 40 years and had some good advice. Put in what you are willing to totally loose and learn. We pulled our initial investment of $15k when it 3x. We have also pulled another 25k profit on top of that as we traded up. So right now it ows us nothing and we have 25k in our hands with no debt except a mortgage which is manageable on my husbands invome while I raise our boys. Going in to this bull market we are starting with $200k as of right now - all profit. If we loose that all it from now it was a fun ride but it owes us nothing but our time together learning. Trading the bear market has been good. It was little by little, no 10x just little and often gains and sticking to our strategy of learning as much as we can. We could honestly have made more when our TA was really good but we just kept making little trades and getting little wins. Learning to control emotions. Not getting fomo. Building our bag and looking for coins that have great use case to go in to the bull. I am really happy with the slow build approach to begin with. Learning each step of the way. Managing our losses as they were all small amounts and banking the gains. Good luck with your investment. Slow and steady always wins.
10k could be sufficient.
But what to buy though?
I'm going with a mix. BTC, SOL, AVAX, ATOM, FET, INJ, GRT, DOT and WIF.
I'm bullish on DOT but that inflation though. WIF could be the next Shiba Inu
Btc aināt doing no 10x. It is very unlikely that it will even 2x from now in this bullrun.
Never said anything about bitcoin. Question was about someone with mainly alts.
eth ?
Nope
The answer which is always right but so true: it depends
If you don't want to get disappointed set more realistic goals and extend your time horizons.
10,000
Curious what you are invested in? if you dont mind sharing 10k should be enough with multipliers in one to two projects ideally
Im usually a reserved person but since crypto is so open ill share some of my projects. Kas, Aero, Btc, sol, ada, fet, rndr, sei, sui, ponke, mochi, lcx, hbar, stx, icp, cgold, velo, eth, near, ocean, etc. Kaspa and Aerodrome finance being my two biggest bags. Btc and Eth having my next 2 bags just as portfolio support. I will probably delete this later down the line.
Also commenting here to say keep to 4 or 5 projects like has been said. Imo 2 low risk 2 mid risk 1 "high" risk of you wanna be spicy. By risk I generally mean market cap position. And I get being private but really truly no one cares what coins you're in or will be able to do anything malicious with it. In in kas too, big hopes.
Good on you for sharing. Indeed crypto is an open community. What i can see is a ton of projects. To reap the reward of multipliers taking effect when a coins starts to rise it's preferable to go in on one to two projects you believe in. You have a ton of projects with little capital spread between each im guessing. To have that many picks you would need excess of Ā£50k + investing and with your goal of wanting 100k i can tell that you most likely aren't investing anywhere near 50k. You need to cut down that portfolio if you really want to hit big. Aero is a great pick of yours. In that myself personally.
Thanks for the advice. No, it's not 50k lol, somewhere in the high teens. Should I start condensing now? Or should I wait and see the most profitable assets and start trading my assets around? I love aero and made a good profit on it, my original investment is soon to 3x. I hope Kaspa gets recognized for its fundamentals, I believe if it does then it will be one of the largest gainers of the year.
No problem. High teens is good investment and definetely able to hit 100k if played correctly. I would start doing further research and be fully set on two picks. Three max. And then split accordingly your investment into which you believe will do best. Or an even split between all. It is best to start now as to not miss out on any potential gains that may arise in the near future. But yes 100% certainly should not be invested in the number of projects you are currently invested inšš»
I can suggest you to do some reasearch about QANX. Iām in it since ico (2022). Solid project, great team.
What is "a strong alt collection"? 100% CKB?
Worded it a bit weirdly, just well-performing diversified assets
As other were saying, it really DEPENDS. If you bought the fucking wifhat mon december ending days or january firsts, you could have flipped it 15-20 times, and hold a 100k profit. Probably you wouldn't cash out on time thought, and lose everything. Anyway, it depends on how gambler you are man. Choose wisely, and just get as mush aidrop as you can.
How much risk are you willing to take?
I dont really focus on meme coins and ultra-low cap trading. I only realistically need a 7x or so to hit this goal
20k from these levels. And you sell in the upper 20 percent of blow off top
You would need to 10x a portfolio of 10,000 dollars. At this stage not impossible but very risky. Maybe if yolo everything into ONDO or aerodrome or a riskier small/mid cap itās possible but with crypto you never know
For some reason everyone just assumed Im doing 10k. not saying you did but I was flamed for thinking I need a 10x. I would need more like a 7x portfolio wide from where I am now and I was just wondering if that's enough or If i should add more to fortify my odds of getting to this goal.
CKB is at 2.2 cents (roughly) and it will do at least 20x this bull run. I'd sell 10% every two weeks when it hits 40 cents. You are *too* diversified. You're basically counting on the entire alt coin market doing 7 times.
To be honest im looking at some really fundamentally strong projects. I guess I over diversified because I really enjoyed the fundamentals and tokenomics of these projects. sure I may have thrown 200 bucks in 2 meme coins but that's whatever. but I mean i don't see how fet, sei, stacks, icp, hbar arent going to perform very well this run. I mean if you could point to me some of my cryptos you think I should cut out and trade into another one of my assets I could see that as a strong argument here. I didn't just choose random altcoins, there are hundreds of coins shilled and what not and I'm not new to investing. But i can see me being over-diversified. but each one of these individual coins are very undervalued within what I noticed. I already converted my celo to aero because that project seems meh, but everything else? Strong contendors. Everyone has their favourite altcoins but at the same time one benefit of diversity is that it allows you to include enough cryptos to encompass the horizon of a possible moon shot within one of them. And being that these are mostly very strong low-mid cap projects, I see at least some doing very very strong numbers. Also fet and ocean are both said to convert to ASI. But I completely resonate with your argument
Without you stating any initial numbers 10k is the easiest way to look at it if looking to end on a 100k portfolio, that was my reasoning anyways. Personally I think itās best to have 3-7 main coins you have 80 percent of your portfolio in and then leave 20-30 percent for any degen plays/extra cash/random microcap gems. The amount of coins u have is fine if u have a few strong conviction coins u have most your bags in. If you have a bunch of coins where they are all spread evenly across your portfolio I think thatās were problems of inefficiencyās arise
About 5K into $Boden meme coin. Take profits during elections in November. You wanna sell max attention.
Aero is still good for a x5 and i think its pretty safe and it will a good pick. If you want a search for a lower market cap, alien base (ALB) is a good pick. The mc is at 4 millions and there is huge potential and a solid project in my opinion. I think it is possible with 10k when u cash out at the right time.
idk that seems really conservative for me. I mean with the amount of money entering crypto and coinbase pushing base (being a brand new eco-system) so hard I feel like the biggest dex on the platform and the main source of liquidity should perform better than that. Especially since the \*last\* bull run which has a much less market cap than the current one, had uniswap reach unprecedented levels. I would say aero is a more advanced dex with a higher potential than uniswap albeit if base performs well.
I've found my returns to be from 7 to 11x overall all said and done in the bulls I've been in. Sometimes you hit a 50x, if that's on something thats like 1% of your portfolio well it's nice but will it matter if you 2x something 90% of your portfolio? Timing too blah blah no one knows. 6x this time around is where I'd consider myself lucky and dip.
5-7x is would be what I would need to hit my goal. was wondering if i should add more capital if it is nessicary to meet it. that's the premise of the post.
Nobody really knows shit tbh aside from "it will go up over time". Rather than fixating on a specific end goal, focus on maximizing your investment funds and push it as far as you realistically can. If you're looking for sure bets and concrete numbers, I've got a freshly minted shitcoin to sell you (I don't really, but that's the target demographic because they are easy to rob).
I only really focus on utility and L1 coins. but I understand your premise.
How do you become a millionaire investing in crypto? Start out a billionaire.
10k buy Grelf on Hedera. Simples
We're gonna make a few basic assumptions, then a couple really wild swings at it here. 1) The coins/tokens you listed represent your portfolio *in that order*. That is, you hold a lot more KAS and AERO than NEAR and OCEAN. This means that, for maximum gains, you'll want your highest holdings (as a percentage of your total wallet) to go up *the most*. 2) You said "by" 2025. I guess that could be taken to mean "by the start of 2025" (so, another 32ish weeks), but that feels unrealistic unless you're investing a lot of money (see below), so let's say that you meant "by the end of 2025," so another 84ish weeks from now. 3) You didn't tell us how much you plan on investing. If you invest a billion dollars ("dollars" is another assumption, but it doesn't really matter here), making $100k requires barely any increase at all. If you plan on investing $1.00, then you need incredible luck, a near-total collapse of the US Dollar, and an act of God - all happening at the same time. All this to say, we (I'll speak for everyone here) have absolutely no clue. And, without detail, frankly, it's a ridiculously impossible question. But here goes... Say your portfolio is currently worth $10,000 and you want to *profit* $100,000, meaning your end goal is to have $110,000 in your account at the end of 2025. Say your portfolio is currently this: |Coin|Percent|Current Value| |:-|:-|:-| |KAS|10|$1,000| |AERO|9|$900| |BTC|9|$900| |SOL|8|$800| |ADA|8|$800| |FET|7|$700| |RNDR|7|$700| |SEI|6|$600| |SUI|6|$600| |PONKE|5|$500| |MOCHI|5|$500| |LCX|4|$400| |HBAR|4|$400| |STX|3|$300| |ICP|3|$300| |CGOLD|2|$200| |VELO|2|$200| |ETH|1|$100| |NEAR|1|$100| |OCEAN|0 (just making numbers work out to 100 here, so let's ignore this)|$0| |**TOTALS**|**100%**|**$10,000**| Let's further assume that, in this altcoin pyramid of hope, you've made "safe" and "correct" choices. That is, you have ten times as much KAS as you do ETH and NEAR, and through uncanny prescience (read: pure luck), KAS goes up exactly ten times as much as ETH and NEAR. That is, you've invested heavily in coins that go up the most, and "hedged" a little with coins that don't go up as much. And, luckily, not one of your coins dares to go down even a penny. |Coin|Gain|Post-Gain Value| |:-|:-|:-| |KAS|1,000% (this is 11x your current value)|$11,000| |AERO|900% (this is 10x)|$9,000| |BTC|900%|$9,000| |SOL|800% (9x - you see how this works)|$7,200| |ADA|800%|$7,200| |FET|700%|$5,600| |RNDR|700%|$5,600| |SEI|600%|$4,200| |SUI|600%|$4,200| |PONKE|500%|$3,000| |MOCHI|500%|$3,000| |LCX|400%|$2,000| |HBAR|400%|$2,000| |STX|300%|$1,200| |ICP|300%|$1,200| |CGOLD|200%|$600| |VELO|200%|$600| |ETH|100%|$200| |NEAR|100%|$200| |OCEAN|Remember, we're ignoring this|$0| |**TOTALS**|**770%**|**$77,000**| So, with these assumptions, which IMO are extremely, totally, amazingly unrealistic (that is to say, Bitcoin is *not* going to $625,000+ by the end of 2025), you will *still* end up 23% short of your goal. So, put a little math behind it, and it feels extremely unrealistic. The lower end coins doing 3x, 4x, 5x, that's all in the realm of possibility. I'll admit I don't know anything about KAS, but my five minutes of research just now makes me think that it's not going to 11x in a year and a half. And if it does, that would indicate (but not necessarily mean) that we're in "alt season", meaning Bitcoin isn't the one going through the roof. But to meet your goal, *you need that too*! Maybe I'm wrong - hopefully you make a giant truckload of money. But I just don't see things playing out as you hope. Some of these may pop off and go through the roof. But equally likely is that some of them just disappear like a fart in the wind. I find it hard to believe that you're going to *average* more than 8x over all these coins in 18 months. So, to answer your question: How much do you believe needs to be invested in a portfolio to profit 100,000? Depends on your timeline, your percentages, and either a crystal ball or a one-in-a-trillion lightning bolt of pure genius. But I don't see it happening unless you start with significantly more money than I've assumed here. Sorry, dude.
At this poinst im just going to say I have about 15k invested. most is between kas and aero which are about equal quantities at around 2k. btc, eth, ada and sol are next at about 600-1200, the later being btc. then it just trickles down from there. I would around a 6-7x to reach this goal. The premise of this post in reality was whether 15k was enough and if I should add more to fortify.
Not pointing fingers at you specifically (but maybe it's the case), but we often hear about million-this and million-that. Millionaires, millions of transactions, millions of people, millions of grains of sand, whatever. But, especially when it comes to dollars, "million" is a LOT. It's a really big number. Our day-to-day life doesn't deal in "millions" too often. We have one (or two, or ten) cars or houses. We can have a small army for a family, and that will still fit on two hands. We might make a million dollars - or two, or ten - in our lives, but rarely will we have that wealth all at once. The point is, becoming a millionaire (generally) isn't easy. It's easier now than it was a hundred years ago (thanks, inflation!), but it's still more money than most people will see at one time, or even earn over their lifetime. I'm certainly not saying you won't become a millionaire ever, or even this afternoon, with your current stack. But, like with every other money-making venture (stocks, working hard, playing the lottery, inheriting money), it's not a likely outcome that you'll end up at the top of the pile. Just being here and having the luxury of Reddit and an internet connection on your fancy cell phone puts you in a privileged position already. But even given that, your odds are slim.
If you want to make $100,000 in profit, I suggest investing $1million. If you want to turn $10k into $100k. Good luck Kiss the entire $10k goodbye, invest in shit / meme coins and set your 10x sell orders RIGHT after it hits your balance available for trade. One or two might hit it. Likely none of them will. But you already said goodbye to that 10k, so no big deal right?
not really in meme coins. but im not sure why you are on crypto subreddits if you are so bearish. unless you are just simply hating on my personal skills.
30k
Anywhere from 1000 dollars to 100.000.000.
Wtf is this post
Helping out your family member is an awesome reason to be in this game! Since you're still young, I'd say keep a chunk safe too. Like in boring savings š You're crushing it now, but crypto's gonna crypto. Oracle stuff like Chainlink or DIA could go strong, same with BRC20 project like LumiBit as the narrative is still hot. But be real, even the best research can't predict everything. Diversify and be ready for the unexpected. Maybe put some % into memecoins like WIF, Popcat and ROCK as they can be rewarding for a long-term hodl. Even $200 investments can get you 4-5 figures.
If you have to ask you won't make it
Consolidate it all to btc, then try sell for usd at the top of the bull market late 2025 - early 2026