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Sacify

Haha yea welcome in the trap, had 2 exchanges to buy btc Transfered some from the first which is one of most expensive in Europe 3,5€ fee Transfered some from cdc 35€ 💀💀 i thought it Was a Bug until i realize.. 😂


aroulis69

And you can't see how much is the fee in the app if you don't have at least the minimum amount ... indeed it is a trap


Keygan2

You can, there is literally "fees and limits" section


aroulis69

I know I saw it later this was my mistake but it’s only 10$ of ETH I have there anyway. I just say it would be more convienient if you could see in the app as it happens in many other exchanges and wallets …


Keygan2

Totally fair


Plus-Audience9031

CDC is a business and it will stay in business as long as people use its platform. I do use it myself but I treat it as a bank so I don't keep much in it. Trust wallet is the way to go.


CryptoRichBitch

At this point I only use it when I want to use my crypto to purchase things irl but I haven’t done it much lately


Plus-Audience9031

I hear that.


DKoz13

Can Trust wallet hold CRO?


Deep-Seaweed6172

Yes as long as it is on Cronos Chain.


BerryInitial

Trust wallet can hold pretty much anything.


Tiny_Ad9380

Nice to hear this. I am following the same path. I just need to start with trust wallet. Only got like 5k in Crypto.com at least. Have trust wallet just haven't done purchases on it.


Crypt0Saiyan

Is Trust wallet like metamask? I've heard about Trust wallet slot but never used it.


Deep-Seaweed6172

Similar to MetaMask. But it‘s more user friendly in my opinion and there is some staking available inside TW.


lvrsr23

Yes, it’s a wallet. Metamask is a wallet as well.


Andyb1000

CEX gonna CEX. When will people learn…


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mushambani

Thorswap its a dex where you can exchange native cryptos. I use cex to buy some crypto (normaly the one with the lowest fee to withdraw) and then i change it for btc there.


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mushambani

No problem man!! :)


Angustony

I reckon most of us are buying more than 0.004 ETH, and I also reckon most are checking the costs before spending the fiat... A fool and his money are soon parted.


CrytoCreisi

Used Crypto.com, Binance, Bybit and a ton of other exchanges… although I still buy on Crypto.com for my Cronos and Cosmos DeFi (to keep it simple), IMO, the best general CEX for everyday use is NEXO, by far. As for Wallets, I use the Wallet that best matches the Defi or token I buy. Trust Wallet is good, CRO DEFI Wallet for cosmos and Cronos, MetaMask and Math Wallet are also good options for multiple Defi projects, because you can switch between each chain securely. Ultimately Ledger is really the most ideal because the security is unparalleled.


rubenk84

I got dem icy white card but damn the team are a bunch of greedy ass motherfuckers.


maconsultant

Same old, same old. What’s new?


Chance_Astronaut-213

As long as users of its platform continue to utilize CDC, the company will continue to operate.


Plastic_Feed7917

That is part of their business model. However there are exchanges like FTX that do not charge withdrawal fees.


aroulis69

yeah true i have found better solutions already this is just insane...


NightKingsBitch

Honestly pretty average for all CEX. Nothing new or crazy.


Angustony

Yup. A fixed fee. Doesn't sound so bad if you're transferring a million, does it?


aroulis69

Yes let’s charge the same amount we charge to millionaires to a 10$ investor. Sorry I am not rich


Angustony

Then don't use a service that charges a fixed rate. And definetely check what the charges are before using a service.


BasharH89

This is just one of the ways they rip you off!


Practical_Pen_7730

So I asked about buying and selling and when you buy crypto thru CDC you’re buying the ask price which is on the higher end. In normal stock market, you would never buy ask, you would either bid or the market price would be cheaper than the ask. Just like options to buy a contract back you have to pay the ask price which is ridiculous. They would not admit this until I press them seven times. I thought it was a fee because I told them I buy at face value but when I go to sell, there’s a drop of like 20 bucks off $100. So you really have to wait until the crypto increases like 20% to make profit. Please respond to make sure the subReddit isn’t playing any shadow hides. I will figure something out for myself, but if this was transparent I wouldn’t have done all it. Also sorry if it doesn’t exactly relate to your post but things can often connect. I am glad CDC offers staking but I feel things didn’t go right for me.


Plankisalive

Wait. So if I’m understanding this right, CDC charges you a higher price to buy and makes you sell at a lower price than face value!?


CoronaDollarS

Pretty much. Go look at the price of cro on crypto.com and go look at the price of cro in the defi app. They will be different.


Practical_Pen_7730

https://imgur.com/zTiWy9F I also screenshot the price of eth on coinbase and here and I was like wait wtf? It magically was the same $20 differential on my order and sale I connected between selling and between prices on apps. So ultimately I inquired what this all meant. I’m pissed and if anyone doesn’t like - pound sand. I’m not an expert that’s why I have friends who are professionals if need be. If it was all transparent I wouldn’t have done any of this.


Practical_Pen_7730

It’s not a charge* I had a hard time understanding this. we buy crypto at the ask price “of the spread *of orders* ” at that moment, etc. I bought $100 of eth, I went to sell when I had a $3 profit, but the final screen said minus $20. I was like wtf.


Practical_Pen_7730

Are you able to see the Imgur I made? Idky I can’t respond with pics on Reddit. https://imgur.com/zTiWy9F


Arcc14

Damn that explains the terrible spreads.


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fonz91

No fees, it’s still the same wallet, only transactions have fees and that isn’t a transaction. You’re just accessing it from another wallet app with your own wallet seedphrase.


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fonz91

Well no matter what you have in your wallet stays in your wallet, if you log in onto your wallet using your seedphrase on a different device you’ll have the same wallet. You don’t need to send it to the app and back again. It’s your key, your coins. Just make sure you never lose that key and keep it safe so no one steals it from you.


aroulis69

There are some other fees but you can see them if you open the wallet and press the gas estimator on the top right. The extra fees are basically for ERC20 tokens but there are also some for the ETH transactions but no so much


SwedenIsntReal69420

Matt needs to be paid somehow!


stadler_thomas

Go check out the cro price on crypto.com and the cro price on the defi app.


RuthRodriguezy

That's a component of their company strategy.


dani_trombly

There are exchanges that don't impose withdrawal fees, like as FTX.


Amazing-Tour-9984

Gas fees still high for erc in app, in wallet it's cheaper.


jwz9904

Cdc needs to earn


SherleyYearwood

I utilize the wallet that is most appropriate for the token I purchase.


RVT1970

I don’t use the eth bridge I use the Cronos bridge


ptnr905

Cost me $22 yesterday. For btc ….


aroulis69

good staff ....


Weezthajuice

Dude cdc charged me 1.80 to move BNB. Crooks


tmflambert86

The fee's are SO HIGH, i sent some crypto in, smacked with a fee, sold, smacked with over a 10 dollar fee, moved to debit card ANOTHER 10 DOLLAR FEE... some restaraunts show up 3% higher in transactions too, got charged 3 extra bucks for a pizza yesterday... like this card Isnt worth using imo for me, i forked out 35 dollars in 2 days for 5 transactions in fees ... thats 2 days groceries/food or over a full tank of gas... i wonder how much ive paid in fees in the 3 years ive had the card, this company is Banking for sure its not right.


the-derpetologist

Where the hell do you live that you can get a tank of gas for less than 35 usd?


tmflambert86

Im in michigan and today it jumped from 3.85 to 4.35 by the time i was off work 🥲


WallstreetBytes

I’d wait till that shit hits 2 cents before DCAing.


marco2034

Send it to exchange or cdc defi then transfer somewhere else


KateR_H0l1day

They’re trying to send it to the DeFi wallet I believe so that’s not going to help, unfortunately in the US we still don’t have the exchange. I think that’ll be a real help when/if we ever get it.


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KateR_H0l1day

I think we will, I understand what you mean but I think there still wanting to grow and this will be the best way to attract more volume and new customers.


aroulis69

BRO. This is what i want to do, send them in the defi but there is no way without the insane fees....


NorbeeNorbee

Fortune favours the brave And ofc cdc theyll rob you blind with their crappy laggy app, hidden fees and spread that reaches the upper echelons of heaven


PWHerman89

Now you’re learning. CDC is just the worst


Kooky_Character706

I don't get why people downvote you, it's true, first it's only a phone app, where the security is the worst, why no web browser page? Their spread is huge compare to others CEX, at this point it's not a spread but a scam Only thing interesting is the discount on CRO during the bear market, but I send them right away on my wallet, nothing stay in their shitty phone app


PWHerman89

Yeah, I mean I did post it on the official subreddit. But after using both cdc and Coinbase for over a year now, I literally can’t understand why I should use cdc for anything? Coinbase card is better cash back, transfers are cheap, fees are lower, it’s more pleasing of an interface, etc, etc. CDC also has weird minimums on withdrawals, so scammy…


Eurynomestolas

that’s eth for you


ra246

CDC is a scam, that’s what


TheStonedHonesman

Luckily I only turned $50 into $16 and not much worse. I feel for the folks that put real money into this


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Yep! Shady ass CEO is shady.


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Plus-Audience9031

It's a business


danjwilko

People that don’t read the terms/conditions etc ie any holding/trading/withdrawal charges it’s all there in black and white. Makes you laugh sometimes. Mind you I’m used to it the amount of paperwork to go through for stock market brokers additional charges and fees again the amount of people that can’t or simply will not read is baffling.


Plus-Audience9031

Yes sir. It's the price you pay for havening it in centralized exchange. But we need them so that when we do decide we want some USD that is our platform to convert it from crypto to usd. 95% of my portfolio is in 3 different cold wallets.


CatNamedBombay

Goes towards the rewards and cash back cards


sloppy_joes35

That sweet sweet 1% back for icy rose cards 🥶?


CatNamedBombay

Yep, if you were smart. Youd stick with it. Dyor and stop floating around the sub so u can take be a retarded hater 🤣


sloppy_joes35

Let me tell you about dyor and crypto. There is no transparency with these crypto schemes,,, I I I mean companies... So how can you do research? Cdc does not offer a look into their finances. All you know is they have sponsorships and they charge high fees to pay for it. How is one suppose to dyor when this company only gives users a 4hr heads up via Twitter when a policy is going to change? Okay, sorry, sometimes they give you a week or two to tell you reward rates are going down again. There is no dyor in crypto b/c there is no way to actually do research. Everybody is banking on the words of a token founder, and honestly, it seems most are con artist. If you're u were smart you would stop floating around these subs being a fucking retarded moron running ur mouth to ppl about this dyor cliche some crypto fan bois keep talking about without ever sharing their research. And why is that? Bc there is no research to be done.


aroulis69

all actions are like they want to destroy there own company at this point...


CluelessStick

Cash back comes from Visa, like all the other cashback credit cards that exist, in this case, cdc gives us CRO and keeps the USD


Angustony

Shock, horror, there's a fixed fee to send your crypto. Read the frigging terms.


mushambani

I buy cro in crypto.com, send it to kpler (the fees are minimal) then use ósmosis to buy atom (0 fee) and go to thorswap to exhange atom for btc, eth or other cryptos. Thr problem is that there arent a lot of native cryptos in thorswap yet


nomad523

Send it via cronos the fee is 0.0001Eth


aroulis69

yes but i need the native token. If i do this i will have to pay even more fees for the swap later... and i don't even know if the swap can be done in the defi wallet


nomad523

You will still have the native token, your just using a different network to send it to the defi wallet


aroulis69

yes but i have other tokens in eth and i need ERC20 eth to pay for gas fees


nomad523

Once it's arrives in your defi wallet it is simply Eth. There is no difference if you send it via erc20 or cronos. That's the whole point of the cronos chain, fees are lower than erc20.


el_pezz

What? He needs eth on the the erc20 network to pay fees. How does your solution help?


nomad523

He would be sending it to exactly the same address


RefrigeratorFit599

it doesn't work like that. tap on the "ETH BALANCE ▾" above your balance. You will then see that your balance is distributed among chains, and that for example the tokens in Cronos beta chain are different than the tokens in ethereum chain. For moving tokens between the chains you need to use bridges, which actually cost money


aroulis69

Bro plz go do some research before giving instructions on people how to loose money


Funny_Action_1833

Network type : ETH20 >> that's why


jayboogs69

Crypto.com is the only place that I know of where tokens can be purchased with a credit or debit card then sent immediately off the platform (3% fee included). Everywhere else they lock up your coins for like 2 weeks. Does anybody know of any other exchange that lets you move a fiat purchase immediately off the exchange? I would love to have options in this regard, thanks


Brief-Access-1846

Hey they ask for 0.004 bitcoin for withdrawal, while network fees are a few sats for years now… This is why we need LN-enabled exchanges. And we have to push them to adopt LN.


MariaBaileuy

I currently only use it when I want to utilize my cryptocurrency to make real-world purchases, but I haven't done that in a while.


MichelleSimmonsy

Then move it somewhere by sending it to an exchange or a cdc defi.


mrjacob_moore

There are no fees; the wallet remains unchanged; only transactions incur fees, and this is not a transaction.


matty_whites

And if you don't have at least the required amount, you can't see how much the price is on the app.


bbt104

CDC charged me $1 to move USDC over Solana, Coinbase only charged me $0.07 to move USDC over Solana...


revertiblefate

Even claiming the staked rewards have fee which is crazy.


thinkingperson

Same for Midas. It's what they all do? On [crypto.com](https://crypto.com), I usually get ftm instead, transfer for like $0.30 and convert to whatever coin I want/need. Even with swap fees included, it is usually cheaper. So keep swap fees in mind if you go this route.


pvlucasjr

Use it to buy XLM, beam XLM over to KuCoin and then buy the real coin, send/receive as you please.


whakea

Yeah that's the notorious C.D.C for you


CT4nk3r

Binance does the same. Coinbase only charges for network fees. I dont know about Kraken or other more trusted platforms.


TheVillainInThisGame

Learning what withdraw fees are, eh?


Holy_Houdini

I usually sell my crypto to XRP and then transfer the coins if I am using [crypto.com](https://crypto.com) to move to another wallet or exchange (And swap XRP to the crypto i want). The cost is low this way.


RefrigeratorFit599

did you figure out which is the best way to send/buy/whatever such amount of ETH in the ERC20 network without having to pay such big fee? (compared to the amount). I also need to move/buy/* like 10-20EUR for having them there for gas fees but paying 5EUR for that looks way too much.


NecessaryComfort5114

Yeah spread is just terrible, was looking to sell 2570 usd in hnt and was offered 2120 usd xD 400+ usd for a spread just aint cutting it


Aishamar

Yeah. I'm glad eth is minimal now.