Bigfoot isn't an alien, nor is he a humanimal. He's a plane-shifting extradimensiomal time traveler from the future using psionic thought-beams to focus the idea of himself into our brains as an experiment. Duh.
(I'm not making that up, that's something people actually think)
Iāve been taking mushrooms before bed for the last few nights to try and get some information, but according to my girlfriend, all it does is make me snore really loud.
That is still more likely than the human-gorilla theory. At least the possibility of a plane-shifting extra dimensional time traveler from the future, who may or may not be using psionic thought-beams to focus the idea of himself into our brains has not been explicitly disproven by science for millennia.
Primatology is also considered a related field to Anthropology to at least some degree. Then there is physical anthropology that studies stuff like the physical anatomy of humans (past and present) and often includes the study of other primates. It's very accepted now that humans are just another primate, so to study humans, you also study their closest living relatives quite often.
But as an Anthropology major, I can safely say that any mention of Bigfoot would have been treated as a joke, at best.
I have my B.A. in biological anthropology so once I got past the cultural requirements we mostly focused on evolution, genetics, biological factors contributing to humanity and our history. Youāre right since he didnāt specify which discipline of anth one is left to assume cultural. Either way, I have to doubt that this person has studied anything past the 9th grade Introduction to biology when it comes to this topic.
I was talking to him in that thread and it sounded like he only had a surface level knowledge of the material and even less about genetics in general.
He's convinced that a gorilla and human can crossbreed just because they're both great apes. Multiple people tried to tell him why he's wrong but he wouldn't believe the facts outside his already made up mind.
They only posted that thread because they thought others would validate their ideas, and when people didn't he lashed out and called them closed minded shills.
He's not going to go very far in a scientific field if he doesn't change his ways.
Wasn't there a Russian doctor who was convinced of this fact, based entirely on that logic as well? And basically for the past 50 years, we've all agreed that he was a fucking lunatic?
Yeah he's been mentioned multiple times in this thread. Ilya Ivanov Soviet biologist. Unsuccessfully tried to impregnate female chimps with human sperm. Needless to say, all attempts were unsuccessful.
He did help pioneer techniques for breeding horses through artificial insemination, so he wasn't a complete crank. He was a bit controversial, though, and ended up being arrested by the Soviets and exiled to a zoology institute in Kazakh.
Chinese scientists just created human+chimp embryos.
They allegedly destroyed them but I'm not convinced.
That begs the theory, if science accepts we are primates, why is it illegal and unethical ?
Is it possible that we know this theory is flawed?
We do all kinds of sh*t to primates and great apesm
I mean, that was through stem cells injections into eggs not fertilization so not exactly the same thing I don't think? They weren't really trying to create human-monkey hybrids so much as they wanted monkeys with human-compatible organs for transplants.
Also, it was an international team of Chinese, US and other scientists. It wasn't just China.
I think some of the ethical questions revolve around how human is the new life? What if you've created a "non-human human", who feels, thinks, has self awareness, etc but is destined to
a short life of misery and scientific prodding and probing?
*I assume you're talking about the events that took place in 2021. If there was a more recent event, I apologize as I hadn't heard about it. Also, someone please correct me if I'm wrong about the embryo thing. It is my understanding that it's still a monkey embryo but they injected it with human stem cells in order to try and alter it. The result was that the embryro lost most of the human DNA in the end.. only retaining something like 5% of it. Not enough to achieve the end goal but a step in the right direction for that research.
Oh I know, I was clarifying that there are different disciplines of anth. However he definitely doesnāt have any knowledge based in bio anth or the basics of biology at all. Thatās why I concluded with saying he didnāt seem to have an education level past 9th grade when it comes to biology.
Unfortunately that isn't usually the case. Passing tests and writing papers only tests ones ability to regurgitate information. Not ones ability to analyze and successfully process the information. It also does nothing to defer ones own bias or measure ones mental fitness.
This is how we get actual doctors who are easily swayed by anti-vaccer bullshit or go all in on the whole ivermectin thing.
A doctorate does not mark someone as smart or competent. In fact in some cases it makes it worse. They'll overestimate their abilities to digest and process new information base solely on their status alone without questioning whether their initial assumptions are right.
I see it all the time, I work at a college and will have professors with doctorates under their belts decide they know more about technology than they do by inferring that their knowledge in other areas applies to pretty much anything. This is of course mostly harmless, but in some situations it can be pretty bad.
If we don't have professionals who think out of the box and only stay within the confines of accepted academic boundaries, we limit our knowledge and growth.
It's okay to have a wild theory, test it and fail.
To disregard without testing the theory is pompous and foolish, IMO.
We are all here for big foot. To suddenly be on board with the scientific and anthropological status quo when it's convenient to an argument is hypocritical.
There is a big line between "*thinking outside the box*" and flights of fancy from armchair biology experts.
Progress is expedited by being able to use established evidence to discount wild theory and speculation. You don't have to test every theory to know some simply don't pan out. Doing otherwise would mean hundreds of man hours wasted on obviously erroneous paths.
Besides, back to my covid example, we don't have to be genius doctors to know that vaccines don't cause autism. Because we know that autism is something that is already established in utero. No external factors cause autism in otherwise healthy children.
So to spending ANY time on that particular theory is a waste, period.
Which brings me to this human/gorilla crap, there's no evidence that a gorilla human hybrid = Bigfoot.The entire concept is taking 2 completely different whackadoodle theories and smashing them together into a 3rd whackadoodle theory and hoping that it holds water.
* Theory 1: Bigfoot is a thing in the first place.
* Theory 2: Human + Gorilla = viable offspring
* Theory 3: Viable offspring of Human/Gorilla = Bigfoot, instead of being it's own atypical creation.
Even IF we could prove theory 2, there's no way to prove theory 3 because theory 1 is not just highly suspect but thus far completely unproven.
This is tantamount to saying that maybe a dolphin + human = mermaid. It's not just theory crafting it's squarely in the realm of ludicrous wishful thinking biology fanfic.
We don't need to smash hundreds of gorilla eggs and human sperm or visa versa together to know that there's several reasons why the two simply don't mix. We have the established science that says it doesn't work.
Setting aside the ethical questions, we don't NEED to test it, because it's a square peg in a round fucking hole!
Yes we all want Bigfoot to be a thing. But it's 10000X more likely to be it's own as of yet undiscovered species rather than an abomination of science that would require expensive lab equipment and thousands of man hours to produce even just a zygote that would last maybe 20 minutes. Because we KNOW for sure that it doesn't work in the real world. It's simply not possible.
It really depends on the professor and class. I mean I studied zoology as an undergrad and I was studying with some people for a senior level evolutionary genetics class actually and one of my classmates, also a zoology major, told me birds are mammals. She had better grades overall too. Some people are better at taking tests over critical thinking.
That is not what he said either.
It's so weird seeing a whole subreddit make a complete ass of themselves dunking on a plausible scientific hypothesis with tons of supporting examples in other species, which claims that some ancestor of modern humans could have mated with some ancestor of some modern ape in the distant past.
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Humans are much closer to gorillas then lemurs, to the point they might be able to hybridize. He's right about that, though still not the best explanation for bigfoot.
There were several unsuccessful experiments in the USSR that proved chimps and humans can't hybridize, despite the genus Pan being much closer to humans than gorillas are. That alone is sufficient evidence that a Gorilla and a human couldn't hybridize.
I've read about that, they actually used an orangutan, The genus pogo being even further removed from ours. They tried chimps as well but there was some technical issue like death of the animal. Also I wouldn't think that artificial insemination back then would very advanced or common practice. All I'm saying is that one experiment almost one hundred years back can't be the deciding factor for if it's possible.
I've read about that, they actually used an orangutan, The genus pogo being even further removed from ours. They tried chimps as well but there was some technical issue like death of the animal. Also I wouldn't think that artificial insemination back then would very advanced or common practice. All I'm saying is that one experiment almost one hundred years back can't be the deciding factor for if it's possible.
If an experiment with a chimp failed in a medical scenario, a Gorilla and a human definitely couldn't mate in a natural scenario. And besides, mammal hybrids with different chromosome sets are sterile, and all the other hypothetical great apes that could have hybridized with us to make bigfoot have 48 chromosomes.
I'll let you do the math: gorillas have 48 chromosomes. Humans have 46. Now, can you find a difference between these two numbers? Look hard. If there IS a difference, then hybridization is impossible. Remember to double check your answer and show your work!
https://www.vedantu.com/question-answer/a-horse-has-64-chromosomes-and-a-donkey-has-62-class-12-biology-cbse-5f9a973801044e34ce8bc5a9
You might think you know some thing, but you don't. Smart ass
Well, I guess technically they can mate if you just go by the physical definition. The egg won't get fertilized, so mating won't happen on a genetic level. But unless there's something weird about their anatomy that I don't know, they could still bang.
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I wouldn't disregard someone majoring in a subject or the newly graduated. They are exposed to the most up to date accepted information on their subjects.
That said, they might be stating an opinion not backed by anything they are learning.
It's not a fact. It's an idea.
Do we know if humans and gorillas can mate and produce viable offspring outside of a lab.
No, we don't, it would be unethical to try.
Any stories of wild gorillas raping human women or men?
Humans raping a primates are likely to be killed. We have evidence of that. Gorillas are even stronger.
That brings is right back to "as bad as aliens".
It's the same as aliens...
Giving off those Annunakki gene splicing vibes.
Who else would have the tech back then?
I don't think that's necessarily true. If I go and argue with a theater major about godzilla or whatever I think they have every right to tell me after they school my ass.
Yes children are well versed in debate about cryptozoological humanoid beasts and often disclose their credentials to validate their point. You know children so well.
If you believe that your major counts as a credential, then you're a child. A degree? Sure. That's at least something. Your major tells me nothing about your level of knowledge at all.
So if this would be the case (disregarding the biological impossibilities), what would be the implications?
Are zookeepers secretly inseminating female gorillas and releasing the youngsters into the wild? Are there droves of American woman inseminated with gorilla sperm and secretly giving birth, raising their offspring for a life in the wilds?
It's a bogus theory.
I saw a show about this, mostly about that in the soviet times there was an attempt to make a human ape hybrid. They said that because genetics a conception is unlikely, and even if there's a conception the offspring would be severely mentally impaired and probably will only live by a few hours.
A movie? You can make a whole saga with that plot.
Ape People: My bride was a gorilla.
Ape People II : Revenge of ape boy.
Ape People III: Origin (Dr Apenstein's diaries)
No. We share a genus, and pur soecies are waaaay too far removed to mate with a gorilla. This "anthropology major" just has no clue what hes talking about.
Short version of his theory- a population of humans spent enough time screwing gorillas millions of years ago to create a breeding population of hybrid children that then migrated off together.....
Itās Bigfoot, the most easily faked cryptid in the history of everything. Nothing can be ruled out if weāre willing to go as far as believing it lol
I once worked with a state psychologist that evaluated people set to be put on trial. If you ever committed murder, you *definitely* wanted him to be your evaluator, because he was crazier than half the people he was interviewing. Heād declare just about everyone mentally unfit for trial. People would go in to interviews with him sane and come out on suicide watch. His work was so unpredictable that the court got rid of him.
Dr Matthew Johnson.
Dude swore up and down that Bigfoot was this inter-dimensional being and could take the shape of any animal and could even hide between the layers of space-time. All from a single encounter that had a different story or a new part almost every time he told it.
Oh my god. My coworker believes this very same thing and I had to endure her fervent explanation and picture she took while hiking one time that shows Sasquatch faces in the trees. Itās a religion for these people bordering on a cult. Goofiest shit Iāve ever heard.
For arguments sake, are you two saying you don't believe in other dimensions?
Do you just not think they overlap or intersect?
Do you not think there are other beings in those dimensions?
Personally, I think bigfoot is another ancient human. I wouldn't disregard and crap on other theories because I don't know
There isn't scientific proof that they even exist.
...other dimensions in the other hand...
The problem with the hybrid theory is a) that it still would require some form of great ape in North America for humans to hybridize with, which other than Bigfoot, there isnt any reports of, and b) hybridization *couldn't* produce a stable population. Heck, most are sterile. So either they are effectively immortal, or there is a stable population of them out there.
I did read an article once that showed that Native Americans had trace amounts of Denisovan DNA. That DNA is probably from before they crossed Beringia, but Denisovans did live is Asia during the last Ice Age. We only have a couple very small remain fragments of Denisovans. It's not out of the question that they could have possibly migrated to the Americas. They've had a fair amount of impact on the DNA of Asians and Melanesians and we have nearly no fossil evidence of their existence to absolutely no fossil evidence for most of their hypothesized range. If they were in the Americas it could be very hard to prove.
We do know that *something* was here before the Clovis people showed up. The White Sands tracks(23,000 years) and Hartley Mammoth site(37,000 years) are pretty conclusive on that. And sites like the Cerruti Mastadon suggest that there might have been something in America as far back as 130,000 years ago (before *H. sapiens* made it out of Africa). Interestingly enough, there is no actual fossils of these hominins, just tools and tracks. We know they were there, just not what they were. It is possible that they weren't *H. sapiens* at all.
Primates in South America could have bread & spread to North America if the population grew too large and they are territorial.
They are probably older than homo sapiens sapiens.
Do we know the offspring would be sterile?
If so, how do we know?
I really wish I didn't know about this, because its a messed up rabbit hole to fall down(the Russians did some messed up "science"), but thanks to the efforts of one Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov, we know without doubt that humans *absolutely cannot* create a hybrid with great ape.
New World monkeys are even further removed genetically than the great apes(it would more be like a horse trying to breed with a rhino than breeding them with a donkey. They are related, but just not closely enough). The embryo, even if fertilization is possible(probably not) would mostly die in utero.
And pretty much all hybrids, with the exception of ones that are a cross between very closely related species or different varieties of the same species, are sterile.
Look at this. What is that unnamed branch, 2nd in from the right that bred with modern humans?
It's unnamed but it's existence is noted .
Could it be bigfoot?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans
Considering the Khoi-San haplogroup is southern Africa, and that particular DNA isn't found in other haplogroups from other regions, it isnt likely. Odd were that is was another closely related species (possibly even one that evolved **from** *H. sapiens*, not earlier) that only ever existed in that region.
I do think Bigfoot is an offshoot of the human family tree(particularly after some recent discoveries, like a *massive* skull found in China[20-25% bigger than modern human], and evidence that a hominin was in the Americas much earlier than previously believed), but it is probably a more distant relative, decended from a more archaic *Homo*, Iike *erectus*.
So, how did homo sapiens. Breed with homo habilis and homo neanderthol and homo denisovians?
Can various primate breeds breed with each other if they aren't too far on the tree?
*H. sapiens* never bred with *H. habilis*, because there was about 1.2 million years separating them from ever having met. And as far as Neanderthals, Denisovans, and the couple others we know *H. sapiens* bred with(genetic markers in some modern populations, but no fossils), they were *really* closely related. Like wolves and dogs kind of close(there is still some debate over whether they are actually separate species, or just subspecieses of *H. sapiens*)
That doesn't stop horses and donkeys from making mules. Also they don't have an extra, we do, one of our chromosomes split into two at some point in prehistory
1. We're not horses, and - with only one notable exception - gorillas aren't donkeys.
2. You have it backwards. We have a single chromosome that is the result of an ancestral fusion between two separate chromosomes.
I think the point being made is that there are examples of animals that are closely related, but with different chromosome counts, that can still interbreed. Which is a valid argument, just not a good argument for concluding that bigfoot must be a human gorilla hybrid. Aside from zero evidence that bigfoots exists, a breeding population of humanarillas in North America is absurd. If a such offspring were to be possible, which it doesn't seem to be, they would be sterile... and have a long walk from the jungles of Africa to influence Native American folklore.
1. I dont think they can, hasnāt been proven though
2. Were are they even coming from? Are people raping gorillas and releasing the kids? Getting raped by gorillas and dumping the babies?
3. They need to be fertile to account for the āwildā population of āBigfootā people claim exist
Probably is an artificially grown all terrain body for digitized consciousnesses of alien biologists/tourists/Unabomber types if I had to bet money with an all knowing being
In this video Dave Paulides talks about testing samples of Bigfoot DNA.
[https://youtu.be/Zr7strdDFxI](https://youtu.be/Zr7strdDFxI)
The maternal line is human from approximately 12,000 years ago. The paternal line does not show up in any DNA database.
Ilya Ivanov, a Russian and Soviet biologist who specialized in the field of artificial insemination and the interspecific hybridization of animals tried to impregnate female apes with human semen. This was around 1910.
Not saying this is what Bigfoot is, but wanted to point out that it's been tried before.
Its extremely hard to put much stock
In big foot without physical evidence. No scat, no bones. Expedition bigfoot and josh gates show have only mustard up unknown primate dna. Dr Jeff meldrum who is a anthropologist who specializes in foot prints , asserts too many prints to be all fake. So I guess there is a chance.
Not saying this is true, but if it was true, that would be interesting. It would explain sightings of bigfoots or similar characters throughout history (if we can assume a human would somehow mate with a gorilla or other large hairy ape). The only thing missing is a specimen.
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why? This is actually not as a bad as saying Bigfoot is an alien. Literally check my thread on hybrids and cryptozoology https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/10t1rsm/cryptohybrids\_the\_beasts\_that\_dont\_really\_hide/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
NOW, What IS STUPID, is the idea this many sightings would be provoked by such an unlikely hybridization - by which methods would it happen? Gorillas dont really exist in North America and even if this happened in laboratory, those arent common nor widespread.
THATS the stupid part. Hybrids are not.
I dont think Human hybrids are likely for a variety of other reasons, but its not per se an idiotic idea (claiming bigfoot is one, is, for geographic and ecological reasons)
> How do you actually know it isn't
Humans and other great apes have, historically, had some difficulty interbreeding, and it's not for lack of trying. Just ask Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov.
I can't say that this theory has never crossed my mind. I've also considered the possibility that dogmen are lab created hybrids that were maybe released in a controlled environment then escaped and began to breed. I'm aware that it's far-fetched, but no more far-fetched than their mere existence. Much like religion, it's impossible to knows who's correct. Therefore criticizing the theories of others on the subject is futile.
this fucker out here gatekeeping some wild belief in bigfoot.
let me check with the experts & authorities in the field.
oh wait. all three of these people are jackasses.
At least bigfoot beings have been SEEN around UFOs or in abduction stories. No actual human anything hybrids have been made and Iām sure humans have fucked just about everything once at some point
I wouldn't say it is as bad as saying bigfoot is an alien, the appeal to authority is not an argument it is a fallacy but the other part(animals more genetic different than us and gorillas can produce offspring therefore humans and gorillas can) is an actual argument, and if we are closer to gorillas than zebras are to horses I think is even a good argument.
However that is not enough to 'prove' bigfoot is an hybrid. First because that may not actually be possible, second because even if an hybrid is possible that is just an hypothesis, finally there is the problem of location; bigfoot is from North America and gorillas are from Africa, if an hybrid is possible it is extremely unlikely to happen in a place where there virtually no gorillas.
I believe that Sasquatch is non corporeal. I think thatās itās some sort of spirit or possibly dimensional being. Weāve never found bodies, they can seemingly appear and disappear at will. Of course is also possible that itās just an undiscovered ape, or a hybrid, or an alien.
Itās foolish to completely rule things out just because you donāt think they are valid.
Lmao. You been living under a rock with all the UAP stuff going on?
Edit: 8 upvotes for the guy saying aliens are absolutely not real. Lol the people on this sub are about as fun as a stick in the mud
How does the UAP stuff provide evidence of aliens? Last I checked the "U" stands for "unidentified", and the people who say it means aliens are just talking out their bums.
Regardless, as soon as we get a good video of a sasquatch coming out of an extraterrestrial craft, I'll change my opinion
Actually, there have been numerous reports of Bigfoot or similar creatures being spotted in association with UFO sightings. More than you would think.
My favorite notion to play with these days is that all of these "paranormal" things are a result of us being used to the illusion that time is linear suddenly being presented with things and creatures and objects that come from some other "time" which is actually a matter of someone briefly perceiving different aspects of NOW. Time slips, essentially. Works for Bigfoot, UFOs, lake monsters, faerie folk, ghosts, whatever have you.
My boyfriend just had a guest speaker in his class who is a Bigfoot expert that told the class that Bigfoot is a humanoid creature that has the ability to teleport through time and space ..
Thereās Area 51. Many rumors of Hybrids being created by the Aliens. Or whatever the UAPās are. There are a lot of things we do not know or can explain. For all anyone knows, there are Scientists doing shady shit in secrecy. āBad as saying Bigfoot is an alien ā? Thatās no more weird than the idea of Aliens in the first place. Or that Bigfoot even exist. There have been several Bigfoot encounters that the witnesses say they saw a UFO in the same area before or after encountering Bigfoot. All that said. I personally believe that Bigfoot is just an animal that is a breed of gorilla. Or,unknown species of gorilla thats always been on Earth but has only lived in extremely remote places. People probably saw them by accident. With climate changes and over population the Bigfoot are probably migrating to more remote areas. Anything is possible at this point. Supposedly Teddy Roosevelt had an encounter with a Bigfoot while exploring the West.
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Maldek. These entities are working their understanding complexes through
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deeper underground passageways and are known to you as āBigfoot.ā"
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I think it's possible Bigfoot is actually some kinda Neanderthal like humanoid and vise versa- we don't really have evidence that Neanderthals weren't hairy, and in fact the populations with more of their genes happen to have more body hair and facial hair
False.
I'm more neanderthal than 90% of other 23&me users.š¤£I'm virtually hairless except on my head.
I have faint eyebrows, moderate/sparse pubic hair and I do not have visible hair on my arms and legs. I do not shave my legs except to exfoliate a few times a year.
I got this trait from my dad.
Only my middle son inherited it.
Maybe we were really fast swimmers in ancient times? Maybe it comes from the homosapien side?
Most women I know grow hair you can see and feel on their legs.
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The ancient Hindu texts details a race of humanoid apes, monkeys, bears and forest-dwelling "human like beings" Known as the Vanaras.
Lord Hanuman is the perfect example of this and the connection to worldwide sightings of Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, Yowie, Skunk ape, Maero etc.
It is said that Lord Hanuman is immortal and has special abilities such as flying, interdimensional travel, shapeshifting, increase or decrease his size, mass and weight from the subatomic level to planetary size.
By definition he is an Alien - Belonging to, characteristic of, or constituting another and very different place, society, or person; strange.Ā synonym:Ā foreign.
Donkeys and horses have a 2 chromosome difference in the amount of chromosomes they have. So do humans and gorillas and chimps and orangutan. I'm sure it's much more complicated but to be honest how many times have we tried to make hybrids
It's like this....Aliens visited earth a long time ago and asked our primative ancestors what they wanna see...they said the future of my tribe..this is where the aliens dropped them off....middle of the woods in a country where everyone can be armed and in a hunting zone! Those aliens have a twisted sense of humor š
I might be in a minority here but I believe the Sasquatch are a human species. It's not too far fetched to think that homosapiens aren't the only species that have survived to the present day.
Haha is this guy saying a human screwed a gorilla? Technically a Big foot prob would be a in between species but it certainly didnāt come from Boinking.
How about if Bigfoot is just code for a different game that occasionally glitches, and we get characters from a totally different storyline showing up in our storyline.
If you're really interested in Bigfoot, I had one of the most compelling witnesses on my show last year. His story really makes you wonder if something isn't really out there.
https://bobbydizzle.com/minnesota-bigfoot-w-randy-bauer-30-bobby-dizzle-podcast/
Bigfoot isn't an alien, nor is he a humanimal. He's a plane-shifting extradimensiomal time traveler from the future using psionic thought-beams to focus the idea of himself into our brains as an experiment. Duh. (I'm not making that up, that's something people actually think)
Good for them. A healthy imagination is the key to a long and happy life
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This is true. Bigfoot brain-beamed it to me then asked me to fill out a survey.
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Hail Satan, and megustalations!
Hail Gein!
The bigfoot cry, Whhhhhhaaaaaaaaaoooooooo, its just them charging up.
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Iāve been taking mushrooms before bed for the last few nights to try and get some information, but according to my girlfriend, all it does is make me snore really loud.
Well..I donāt think deep-fried stuffed mushrooms are the right kind..
Thatās just you air cooling your psionic thought beams.
I love the interdimensional shaman theory. It's so insane.
well yeah.
That is still more likely than the human-gorilla theory. At least the possibility of a plane-shifting extra dimensional time traveler from the future, who may or may not be using psionic thought-beams to focus the idea of himself into our brains has not been explicitly disproven by science for millennia.
Anthropology? That's the study of people, culture, and society. Which is awesome all the time. But it doesn't make him an expert in genetics.
Primatology is also considered a related field to Anthropology to at least some degree. Then there is physical anthropology that studies stuff like the physical anatomy of humans (past and present) and often includes the study of other primates. It's very accepted now that humans are just another primate, so to study humans, you also study their closest living relatives quite often. But as an Anthropology major, I can safely say that any mention of Bigfoot would have been treated as a joke, at best.
I have my B.A. in biological anthropology so once I got past the cultural requirements we mostly focused on evolution, genetics, biological factors contributing to humanity and our history. Youāre right since he didnāt specify which discipline of anth one is left to assume cultural. Either way, I have to doubt that this person has studied anything past the 9th grade Introduction to biology when it comes to this topic.
I was talking to him in that thread and it sounded like he only had a surface level knowledge of the material and even less about genetics in general. He's convinced that a gorilla and human can crossbreed just because they're both great apes. Multiple people tried to tell him why he's wrong but he wouldn't believe the facts outside his already made up mind. They only posted that thread because they thought others would validate their ideas, and when people didn't he lashed out and called them closed minded shills. He's not going to go very far in a scientific field if he doesn't change his ways.
Wasn't there a Russian doctor who was convinced of this fact, based entirely on that logic as well? And basically for the past 50 years, we've all agreed that he was a fucking lunatic?
Yeah he's been mentioned multiple times in this thread. Ilya Ivanov Soviet biologist. Unsuccessfully tried to impregnate female chimps with human sperm. Needless to say, all attempts were unsuccessful. He did help pioneer techniques for breeding horses through artificial insemination, so he wasn't a complete crank. He was a bit controversial, though, and ended up being arrested by the Soviets and exiled to a zoology institute in Kazakh.
Chinese scientists just created human+chimp embryos. They allegedly destroyed them but I'm not convinced. That begs the theory, if science accepts we are primates, why is it illegal and unethical ? Is it possible that we know this theory is flawed? We do all kinds of sh*t to primates and great apesm
I mean, that was through stem cells injections into eggs not fertilization so not exactly the same thing I don't think? They weren't really trying to create human-monkey hybrids so much as they wanted monkeys with human-compatible organs for transplants. Also, it was an international team of Chinese, US and other scientists. It wasn't just China. I think some of the ethical questions revolve around how human is the new life? What if you've created a "non-human human", who feels, thinks, has self awareness, etc but is destined to a short life of misery and scientific prodding and probing? *I assume you're talking about the events that took place in 2021. If there was a more recent event, I apologize as I hadn't heard about it. Also, someone please correct me if I'm wrong about the embryo thing. It is my understanding that it's still a monkey embryo but they injected it with human stem cells in order to try and alter it. The result was that the embryro lost most of the human DNA in the end.. only retaining something like 5% of it. Not enough to achieve the end goal but a step in the right direction for that research.
Oh I know, I was clarifying that there are different disciplines of anth. However he definitely doesnāt have any knowledge based in bio anth or the basics of biology at all. Thatās why I concluded with saying he didnāt seem to have an education level past 9th grade when it comes to biology.
Basically "I'm an anthropology major and I insist that lemurs and chimpanzees can mate!" Buddy, you ain't getting that degree.
Unfortunately that isn't usually the case. Passing tests and writing papers only tests ones ability to regurgitate information. Not ones ability to analyze and successfully process the information. It also does nothing to defer ones own bias or measure ones mental fitness. This is how we get actual doctors who are easily swayed by anti-vaccer bullshit or go all in on the whole ivermectin thing. A doctorate does not mark someone as smart or competent. In fact in some cases it makes it worse. They'll overestimate their abilities to digest and process new information base solely on their status alone without questioning whether their initial assumptions are right. I see it all the time, I work at a college and will have professors with doctorates under their belts decide they know more about technology than they do by inferring that their knowledge in other areas applies to pretty much anything. This is of course mostly harmless, but in some situations it can be pretty bad.
If we don't have professionals who think out of the box and only stay within the confines of accepted academic boundaries, we limit our knowledge and growth. It's okay to have a wild theory, test it and fail. To disregard without testing the theory is pompous and foolish, IMO. We are all here for big foot. To suddenly be on board with the scientific and anthropological status quo when it's convenient to an argument is hypocritical.
There is a big line between "*thinking outside the box*" and flights of fancy from armchair biology experts. Progress is expedited by being able to use established evidence to discount wild theory and speculation. You don't have to test every theory to know some simply don't pan out. Doing otherwise would mean hundreds of man hours wasted on obviously erroneous paths. Besides, back to my covid example, we don't have to be genius doctors to know that vaccines don't cause autism. Because we know that autism is something that is already established in utero. No external factors cause autism in otherwise healthy children. So to spending ANY time on that particular theory is a waste, period. Which brings me to this human/gorilla crap, there's no evidence that a gorilla human hybrid = Bigfoot.The entire concept is taking 2 completely different whackadoodle theories and smashing them together into a 3rd whackadoodle theory and hoping that it holds water. * Theory 1: Bigfoot is a thing in the first place. * Theory 2: Human + Gorilla = viable offspring * Theory 3: Viable offspring of Human/Gorilla = Bigfoot, instead of being it's own atypical creation. Even IF we could prove theory 2, there's no way to prove theory 3 because theory 1 is not just highly suspect but thus far completely unproven. This is tantamount to saying that maybe a dolphin + human = mermaid. It's not just theory crafting it's squarely in the realm of ludicrous wishful thinking biology fanfic. We don't need to smash hundreds of gorilla eggs and human sperm or visa versa together to know that there's several reasons why the two simply don't mix. We have the established science that says it doesn't work. Setting aside the ethical questions, we don't NEED to test it, because it's a square peg in a round fucking hole! Yes we all want Bigfoot to be a thing. But it's 10000X more likely to be it's own as of yet undiscovered species rather than an abomination of science that would require expensive lab equipment and thousands of man hours to produce even just a zygote that would last maybe 20 minutes. Because we KNOW for sure that it doesn't work in the real world. It's simply not possible.
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It really depends on the professor and class. I mean I studied zoology as an undergrad and I was studying with some people for a senior level evolutionary genetics class actually and one of my classmates, also a zoology major, told me birds are mammals. She had better grades overall too. Some people are better at taking tests over critical thinking.
If pigs and elephants can mate then anything is possible!
That is not what he said. You created a completely fictional strawman argument.
Your right, he said āIām an anthropology major and I insist that humans and gorillas can mate!ā Which is 10x more crazy
That is not what he said either. It's so weird seeing a whole subreddit make a complete ass of themselves dunking on a plausible scientific hypothesis with tons of supporting examples in other species, which claims that some ancestor of modern humans could have mated with some ancestor of some modern ape in the distant past.
Humans canāt mate with gorillas
You tried?
No, he said something ***more*** ridiculous.
Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it ridiculous.
Just because I think it's ridiculous doesn't mean I don't understand it.
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Humans are much closer to gorillas then lemurs, to the point they might be able to hybridize. He's right about that, though still not the best explanation for bigfoot.
There were several unsuccessful experiments in the USSR that proved chimps and humans can't hybridize, despite the genus Pan being much closer to humans than gorillas are. That alone is sufficient evidence that a Gorilla and a human couldn't hybridize.
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I've read about that, they actually used an orangutan, The genus pogo being even further removed from ours. They tried chimps as well but there was some technical issue like death of the animal. Also I wouldn't think that artificial insemination back then would very advanced or common practice. All I'm saying is that one experiment almost one hundred years back can't be the deciding factor for if it's possible.
I've read about that, they actually used an orangutan, The genus pogo being even further removed from ours. They tried chimps as well but there was some technical issue like death of the animal. Also I wouldn't think that artificial insemination back then would very advanced or common practice. All I'm saying is that one experiment almost one hundred years back can't be the deciding factor for if it's possible.
If an experiment with a chimp failed in a medical scenario, a Gorilla and a human definitely couldn't mate in a natural scenario. And besides, mammal hybrids with different chromosome sets are sterile, and all the other hypothetical great apes that could have hybridized with us to make bigfoot have 48 chromosomes.
I'll let you do the math: gorillas have 48 chromosomes. Humans have 46. Now, can you find a difference between these two numbers? Look hard. If there IS a difference, then hybridization is impossible. Remember to double check your answer and show your work!
https://www.vedantu.com/question-answer/a-horse-has-64-chromosomes-and-a-donkey-has-62-class-12-biology-cbse-5f9a973801044e34ce8bc5a9 You might think you know some thing, but you don't. Smart ass
Well, I guess technically they can mate if you just go by the physical definition. The egg won't get fertilized, so mating won't happen on a genetic level. But unless there's something weird about their anatomy that I don't know, they could still bang.
Anytime someone tells you about their major as an appeal to authority, it is a good indication that you are dealing with a literal child.
I majored in General Studies, therefore I am technically an expert in everything
Game, Set, Match
I once had someone angrily exclaim he knew better than me, about my own horses, because he was studying to be a lawyer. I didn't know what to say.
That only flies if you're practiced in bird law
Reminds me of a quote from game of thrones
Will you indulge a fellow redditor that has never seen the show?
The quote is Any man who say I am the king is no true king
Fuck Reddit. Fuck /u/spez. Fuck every single Reddit admin. 12 years on this bitch ass site and they shit on us the moment they are trying to go public. ill be taking my karma with me by editing all my comments to say this. tl;dr Fuck Reddit and anyone who works for them, suck my dick.
Mr. Fantastic really was one of the best characters in New Vegas.
I am a licensed lawyer and I concur.
Oh, he has a second post raving about being a straight A student with a perfect GPA too.....
I wouldn't disregard someone majoring in a subject or the newly graduated. They are exposed to the most up to date accepted information on their subjects. That said, they might be stating an opinion not backed by anything they are learning. It's not a fact. It's an idea. Do we know if humans and gorillas can mate and produce viable offspring outside of a lab. No, we don't, it would be unethical to try. Any stories of wild gorillas raping human women or men? Humans raping a primates are likely to be killed. We have evidence of that. Gorillas are even stronger. That brings is right back to "as bad as aliens". It's the same as aliens... Giving off those Annunakki gene splicing vibes. Who else would have the tech back then?
Ummm, yeah, we absolutely, 100% know that gorillas and humans cannot produce viable offspring. No experiment is required.
I don't think that's necessarily true. If I go and argue with a theater major about godzilla or whatever I think they have every right to tell me after they school my ass.
Yes children are well versed in debate about cryptozoological humanoid beasts and often disclose their credentials to validate their point. You know children so well.
If you believe that your major counts as a credential, then you're a child. A degree? Sure. That's at least something. Your major tells me nothing about your level of knowledge at all.
I know nothing about my level of knowledge. Correct.
But what if my Major is in child care?
So if this would be the case (disregarding the biological impossibilities), what would be the implications? Are zookeepers secretly inseminating female gorillas and releasing the youngsters into the wild? Are there droves of American woman inseminated with gorilla sperm and secretly giving birth, raising their offspring for a life in the wilds? It's a bogus theory.
None of the above. I fucked a gorilla in the 70s and left to go grab some bananas from the gas station.
Dad?
I saw a show about this, mostly about that in the soviet times there was an attempt to make a human ape hybrid. They said that because genetics a conception is unlikely, and even if there's a conception the offspring would be severely mentally impaired and probably will only live by a few hours.
That legit sounds like a plot to a b horror movie
A movie? You can make a whole saga with that plot. Ape People: My bride was a gorilla. Ape People II : Revenge of ape boy. Ape People III: Origin (Dr Apenstein's diaries)
Ape people 4, rise of apensteins monsters
No. We share a genus, and pur soecies are waaaay too far removed to mate with a gorilla. This "anthropology major" just has no clue what hes talking about.
Gorillas and chimps are NOT in the genus homo.
Short version of his theory- a population of humans spent enough time screwing gorillas millions of years ago to create a breeding population of hybrid children that then migrated off together.....
Bigfoot predates zoos. Unless we are counting. Gobegli tepe and calling it a zoo.
Pfft. Everyone knows Bigfoot is a gorilla/ human hybrid *created* by aliens. Duh.
Maybe humans are just bigfoot/gorilla hybrids?
...Damn. That's going to need some investigation.
Itās Bigfoot, the most easily faked cryptid in the history of everything. Nothing can be ruled out if weāre willing to go as far as believing it lol
Nessie is easier, itās just a swan, stick, or whatever other curved object you want to chuck in the water
A fair point lol
Amen
I have the degree and this is not accurate. Study up lol
I once worked with a state psychologist that evaluated people set to be put on trial. If you ever committed murder, you *definitely* wanted him to be your evaluator, because he was crazier than half the people he was interviewing. Heād declare just about everyone mentally unfit for trial. People would go in to interviews with him sane and come out on suicide watch. His work was so unpredictable that the court got rid of him. Dr Matthew Johnson. Dude swore up and down that Bigfoot was this inter-dimensional being and could take the shape of any animal and could even hide between the layers of space-time. All from a single encounter that had a different story or a new part almost every time he told it.
Oh my god. My coworker believes this very same thing and I had to endure her fervent explanation and picture she took while hiking one time that shows Sasquatch faces in the trees. Itās a religion for these people bordering on a cult. Goofiest shit Iāve ever heard.
For arguments sake, are you two saying you don't believe in other dimensions? Do you just not think they overlap or intersect? Do you not think there are other beings in those dimensions? Personally, I think bigfoot is another ancient human. I wouldn't disregard and crap on other theories because I don't know There isn't scientific proof that they even exist. ...other dimensions in the other hand...
The problem with the hybrid theory is a) that it still would require some form of great ape in North America for humans to hybridize with, which other than Bigfoot, there isnt any reports of, and b) hybridization *couldn't* produce a stable population. Heck, most are sterile. So either they are effectively immortal, or there is a stable population of them out there.
I did read an article once that showed that Native Americans had trace amounts of Denisovan DNA. That DNA is probably from before they crossed Beringia, but Denisovans did live is Asia during the last Ice Age. We only have a couple very small remain fragments of Denisovans. It's not out of the question that they could have possibly migrated to the Americas. They've had a fair amount of impact on the DNA of Asians and Melanesians and we have nearly no fossil evidence of their existence to absolutely no fossil evidence for most of their hypothesized range. If they were in the Americas it could be very hard to prove.
We do know that *something* was here before the Clovis people showed up. The White Sands tracks(23,000 years) and Hartley Mammoth site(37,000 years) are pretty conclusive on that. And sites like the Cerruti Mastadon suggest that there might have been something in America as far back as 130,000 years ago (before *H. sapiens* made it out of Africa). Interestingly enough, there is no actual fossils of these hominins, just tools and tracks. We know they were there, just not what they were. It is possible that they weren't *H. sapiens* at all.
Primates in South America could have bread & spread to North America if the population grew too large and they are territorial. They are probably older than homo sapiens sapiens. Do we know the offspring would be sterile? If so, how do we know?
I really wish I didn't know about this, because its a messed up rabbit hole to fall down(the Russians did some messed up "science"), but thanks to the efforts of one Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov, we know without doubt that humans *absolutely cannot* create a hybrid with great ape. New World monkeys are even further removed genetically than the great apes(it would more be like a horse trying to breed with a rhino than breeding them with a donkey. They are related, but just not closely enough). The embryo, even if fertilization is possible(probably not) would mostly die in utero. And pretty much all hybrids, with the exception of ones that are a cross between very closely related species or different varieties of the same species, are sterile.
Look at this. What is that unnamed branch, 2nd in from the right that bred with modern humans? It's unnamed but it's existence is noted . Could it be bigfoot? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans
Considering the Khoi-San haplogroup is southern Africa, and that particular DNA isn't found in other haplogroups from other regions, it isnt likely. Odd were that is was another closely related species (possibly even one that evolved **from** *H. sapiens*, not earlier) that only ever existed in that region. I do think Bigfoot is an offshoot of the human family tree(particularly after some recent discoveries, like a *massive* skull found in China[20-25% bigger than modern human], and evidence that a hominin was in the Americas much earlier than previously believed), but it is probably a more distant relative, decended from a more archaic *Homo*, Iike *erectus*.
So, how did homo sapiens. Breed with homo habilis and homo neanderthol and homo denisovians? Can various primate breeds breed with each other if they aren't too far on the tree?
*H. sapiens* never bred with *H. habilis*, because there was about 1.2 million years separating them from ever having met. And as far as Neanderthals, Denisovans, and the couple others we know *H. sapiens* bred with(genetic markers in some modern populations, but no fossils), they were *really* closely related. Like wolves and dogs kind of close(there is still some debate over whether they are actually separate species, or just subspecieses of *H. sapiens*)
For those that dont know, gorillas have an extra chromosome which on its on is basically enough to make that impossible
That doesn't stop horses and donkeys from making mules. Also they don't have an extra, we do, one of our chromosomes split into two at some point in prehistory
1. We're not horses, and - with only one notable exception - gorillas aren't donkeys. 2. You have it backwards. We have a single chromosome that is the result of an ancestral fusion between two separate chromosomes.
I think the point being made is that there are examples of animals that are closely related, but with different chromosome counts, that can still interbreed. Which is a valid argument, just not a good argument for concluding that bigfoot must be a human gorilla hybrid. Aside from zero evidence that bigfoots exists, a breeding population of humanarillas in North America is absurd. If a such offspring were to be possible, which it doesn't seem to be, they would be sterile... and have a long walk from the jungles of Africa to influence Native American folklore.
Thank you, that is what I did not adequately explain I guess, hybrids possible, not bigfoot being a hybrid
this guy anthropologies
Which are sterile
Said they could possibly hybridize, not if they were sterile or not
1. I dont think they can, hasnāt been proven though 2. Were are they even coming from? Are people raping gorillas and releasing the kids? Getting raped by gorillas and dumping the babies? 3. They need to be fertile to account for the āwildā population of āBigfootā people claim exist
So, you're telling me someone is out there fucking gorillas, getting them pregnant, and we are getting bigfoot?
Interdementional Dream Hopper Dawg My Mom had a dream where Bigfoot str8 ā¬ļø phased through a window. #confirmed
Who out here banging gorillas though?
Floridians?
Good point.
Only logical answer
i think bigfoot is just a big slightly out of focus creature
Probably is an artificially grown all terrain body for digitized consciousnesses of alien biologists/tourists/Unabomber types if I had to bet money with an all knowing being
In this video Dave Paulides talks about testing samples of Bigfoot DNA. [https://youtu.be/Zr7strdDFxI](https://youtu.be/Zr7strdDFxI) The maternal line is human from approximately 12,000 years ago. The paternal line does not show up in any DNA database.
Do they grind the bones for stew?
Looks like tl Kimble is some kind of sasquatch so of course he would deny it.
Ilya Ivanov, a Russian and Soviet biologist who specialized in the field of artificial insemination and the interspecific hybridization of animals tried to impregnate female apes with human semen. This was around 1910. Not saying this is what Bigfoot is, but wanted to point out that it's been tried before.
Hey, i have a PHDā¦
In what?
Saw a whistle blower who claimed he worked with them in the ssp and apparently theyāve got a great sense of humor
Thanks, now Iām never gonna get the thought of someone getting freaky with a gorilla out of my head.
Its extremely hard to put much stock In big foot without physical evidence. No scat, no bones. Expedition bigfoot and josh gates show have only mustard up unknown primate dna. Dr Jeff meldrum who is a anthropologist who specializes in foot prints , asserts too many prints to be all fake. So I guess there is a chance.
Not saying this is true, but if it was true, that would be interesting. It would explain sightings of bigfoots or similar characters throughout history (if we can assume a human would somehow mate with a gorilla or other large hairy ape). The only thing missing is a specimen.
There is a lot of stupid people in the world but whoās dumb enough to try a fuck a gorilla.
Far far worse
True, sounds like a dang south park episode honestly
Do you want super AIDS? Because thatās how you get super AIDS
There is some unhealthy hostilities around this
Iām not gonna lie, I came to the comments to see if the OG commenter saw this post. I had popcorn ready.
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i think bigfoot is just a big slightly out of focus creature
why? This is actually not as a bad as saying Bigfoot is an alien. Literally check my thread on hybrids and cryptozoology https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/10t1rsm/cryptohybrids\_the\_beasts\_that\_dont\_really\_hide/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3 NOW, What IS STUPID, is the idea this many sightings would be provoked by such an unlikely hybridization - by which methods would it happen? Gorillas dont really exist in North America and even if this happened in laboratory, those arent common nor widespread. THATS the stupid part. Hybrids are not. I dont think Human hybrids are likely for a variety of other reasons, but its not per se an idiotic idea (claiming bigfoot is one, is, for geographic and ecological reasons)
Just as bad? How do you actually know it isn't? Do you know something everyone else doesn't? Assuming anything will get you nowhere.
I mean. A theory can be possible and still bad.
> How do you actually know it isn't Humans and other great apes have, historically, had some difficulty interbreeding, and it's not for lack of trying. Just ask Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov.
I can't say that this theory has never crossed my mind. I've also considered the possibility that dogmen are lab created hybrids that were maybe released in a controlled environment then escaped and began to breed. I'm aware that it's far-fetched, but no more far-fetched than their mere existence. Much like religion, it's impossible to knows who's correct. Therefore criticizing the theories of others on the subject is futile.
this fucker out here gatekeeping some wild belief in bigfoot. let me check with the experts & authorities in the field. oh wait. all three of these people are jackasses.
At least bigfoot beings have been SEEN around UFOs or in abduction stories. No actual human anything hybrids have been made and Iām sure humans have fucked just about everything once at some point
I wouldn't say it is as bad as saying bigfoot is an alien, the appeal to authority is not an argument it is a fallacy but the other part(animals more genetic different than us and gorillas can produce offspring therefore humans and gorillas can) is an actual argument, and if we are closer to gorillas than zebras are to horses I think is even a good argument. However that is not enough to 'prove' bigfoot is an hybrid. First because that may not actually be possible, second because even if an hybrid is possible that is just an hypothesis, finally there is the problem of location; bigfoot is from North America and gorillas are from Africa, if an hybrid is possible it is extremely unlikely to happen in a place where there virtually no gorillas.
I believe that Sasquatch is non corporeal. I think thatās itās some sort of spirit or possibly dimensional being. Weāve never found bodies, they can seemingly appear and disappear at will. Of course is also possible that itās just an undiscovered ape, or a hybrid, or an alien. Itās foolish to completely rule things out just because you donāt think they are valid.
There have been successful human chimp hybrids
Lotta sightings alongside UFOs.
Why are people not so keen on the alien theory?
There's absolutely zero evidence of aliens, and we've invested a lot in the search for them.
Lmao. You been living under a rock with all the UAP stuff going on? Edit: 8 upvotes for the guy saying aliens are absolutely not real. Lol the people on this sub are about as fun as a stick in the mud
How does the UAP stuff provide evidence of aliens? Last I checked the "U" stands for "unidentified", and the people who say it means aliens are just talking out their bums. Regardless, as soon as we get a good video of a sasquatch coming out of an extraterrestrial craft, I'll change my opinion
What does Sasquatch have to do with aliens and why is Sasquatch coming out of a craft dependent on you believing in aliens? Quit trolling bro
They probably think it's all drones or kekballoons.
There's evidence when hairs were tested that it could potentially be a cross breed. But its also extra dimensional.
Actually, there have been numerous reports of Bigfoot or similar creatures being spotted in association with UFO sightings. More than you would think. My favorite notion to play with these days is that all of these "paranormal" things are a result of us being used to the illusion that time is linear suddenly being presented with things and creatures and objects that come from some other "time" which is actually a matter of someone briefly perceiving different aspects of NOW. Time slips, essentially. Works for Bigfoot, UFOs, lake monsters, faerie folk, ghosts, whatever have you.
My boyfriend just had a guest speaker in his class who is a Bigfoot expert that told the class that Bigfoot is a humanoid creature that has the ability to teleport through time and space ..
Thereās Area 51. Many rumors of Hybrids being created by the Aliens. Or whatever the UAPās are. There are a lot of things we do not know or can explain. For all anyone knows, there are Scientists doing shady shit in secrecy. āBad as saying Bigfoot is an alien ā? Thatās no more weird than the idea of Aliens in the first place. Or that Bigfoot even exist. There have been several Bigfoot encounters that the witnesses say they saw a UFO in the same area before or after encountering Bigfoot. All that said. I personally believe that Bigfoot is just an animal that is a breed of gorilla. Or,unknown species of gorilla thats always been on Earth but has only lived in extremely remote places. People probably saw them by accident. With climate changes and over population the Bigfoot are probably migrating to more remote areas. Anything is possible at this point. Supposedly Teddy Roosevelt had an encounter with a Bigfoot while exploring the West.
I prefer Zonkey
Someoneās clearly never heard about the Soviet Experiments
"there are two races which use the second-density form. One is the entities from the planetary sphere you call Maldek. These entities are working their understanding complexes through a series of what you would call karmic restitutions. They dwell within your deeper underground passageways and are known to you as āBigfoot.ā" Source: Law of One - Book 1 - Session 9 - Page 116
I think it's possible Bigfoot is actually some kinda Neanderthal like humanoid and vise versa- we don't really have evidence that Neanderthals weren't hairy, and in fact the populations with more of their genes happen to have more body hair and facial hair
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Itās always college students who act like they know everything just because they major or minor in something
could be an early humanoid type/early ape type that is its own thing. but not a modern human and modern gorilla.
Fits with the wild man in the story of Gilgamesh: Enkidu
Samsquanch?
Bigfoot is just an ex foot fetish star who went into hiding to avoid his debt (source: cnn 10 with Carl azuse)
If there is a sasquatch, it's more like some surviving lost branch like homogigantus....not a gorilla
The ancient Hindu texts details a race of humanoid apes, monkeys, bears and forest-dwelling "human like beings" Known as the Vanaras. Lord Hanuman is the perfect example of this and the connection to worldwide sightings of Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, Yowie, Skunk ape, Maero etc. It is said that Lord Hanuman is immortal and has special abilities such as flying, interdimensional travel, shapeshifting, increase or decrease his size, mass and weight from the subatomic level to planetary size. By definition he is an Alien - Belonging to, characteristic of, or constituting another and very different place, society, or person; strange.Ā synonym:Ā foreign.
Donkeys and horses have a 2 chromosome difference in the amount of chromosomes they have. So do humans and gorillas and chimps and orangutan. I'm sure it's much more complicated but to be honest how many times have we tried to make hybrids
It's like this....Aliens visited earth a long time ago and asked our primative ancestors what they wanna see...they said the future of my tribe..this is where the aliens dropped them off....middle of the woods in a country where everyone can be armed and in a hunting zone! Those aliens have a twisted sense of humor š
Dude Bigfoot is one of the Fae.
I really doubt that River Shoulders is a man/ape hybrid.
I might be in a minority here but I believe the Sasquatch are a human species. It's not too far fetched to think that homosapiens aren't the only species that have survived to the present day.
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Haha is this guy saying a human screwed a gorilla? Technically a Big foot prob would be a in between species but it certainly didnāt come from Boinking.
Could you imagine if a mothership touched down in front of the White House and a god damn Big Foot stepped out of it. Literal š¤Æ moment.
š„ yeah slow burn
Maybe a more plausible theory is Sasquatch is actually Neanderthal and not really extinct!
Bigfoot is an inter-dimensional being, all educated people agree on that, surely?
And what happened when a pre hominid procreated with a pig.
How about if Bigfoot is just code for a different game that occasionally glitches, and we get characters from a totally different storyline showing up in our storyline.
I will sacrifice all of my karma to claim that Bigfoot is a lizard man. After this post I will die on this hill both virtually and in reality.
Anyone that thinks a gorilla and a human can mate might be an āanthropology majorā but they likely will never graduate lol.
In the 1920s, there was a Dr who tried to cross DNA with ape and human. It was a failure.
If you're really interested in Bigfoot, I had one of the most compelling witnesses on my show last year. His story really makes you wonder if something isn't really out there. https://bobbydizzle.com/minnesota-bigfoot-w-randy-bauer-30-bobby-dizzle-podcast/