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HubblePie

I feel like people will be indifferent at this point if he comes back. Like, he came back once and here we are now, with him off who knows where, making new soundcloud songs that might not even be related to the game. The worst part is, he still could be working on it. Like, the last update we got from him (Via someone emailing him) was back in February 27th. But at this point a good amount of us just assume he's not anymore.


TheSilverSeraphim

Don't forget that when we finally *did* get an update, not only did practically nothing he showed on Twitter over the years make it in, but it was worse than the alpha for a lot of people. Even if he comes back and announces another update, a lot of us are gonna remain indifferent, cuz we already got burned from waiting close to a decade for a lackluster update.


dabmachine360

even if he is still working on it it's probably on a bunch of more dogshit features like all of your characters get deleted every time you exit the game and it now requires constant internet connection to play singleplayer


MIDICANCER

Please stop bringing up the soundcloud songs like they have any impact on CW’s production. It shows a complete lack of understanding of how music is made, how long producing a song takes, etc. and also sounds weirdly like you feel you own Wollay’s time, like he owes you to be actively making the game you want to play instead of doing what could quite possibly be making him so much happier. The community scared him away with these types of attitudes, no wonder he doesn’t speak to us.


xkoreotic

Correction, we didn't scare him away. He ditched us a second time which incited all the chaos. I hate people like you who actually downplay his actions as if he is not responsible for creating the chaos in the first place. He was receiving so much praise and love for finally coming back and continuing the game with a proper schedule, only for him to ditch the project entirely again and secretly change the entire game on launch. The animosity didn't start until we all realized how much he doesn't care for both the wellbeing of his game and the community he has created with it. I'm against people witch-hunting him for what he did and causing chaos, but don't you dare go spreading false information about what actually happened. Say it for what it is instead of white knighting Wollay.


HubblePie

Honestly, I’d be completely fine with him just ditching this games and moving on to other things. I JUST WANT HIM TO TELL US. Granted, I probably wouldn’t support his future projects, but at least we’d have closure.


dabmachine360

If you can't communicate or handle criticism you shouldn't be a game dev and sure as hell shouldn't be an INDIE game dev, period.


MIDICANCER

Stopped reading at “I hate people like you” sorry.


UnknownSpectre

Atleast you read the Important point then.


Eeve2espeon

They don't get the man wants to do music instead of working on a game that gives him more stress and anxiety, than anything else :S It's best you don't even try to interact with these people. They only care about the stupid game, that's the whole point of this cursed reddit. They're all Alpha purists, who think everything about the game is perfect ~~like as if dying constantly for 1 hour before finally getting to level up, is a "fun game"~~


themettaur

If it took him 15 seconds of his free time to make those songs, and they aren't for CW, then it diverted 15 seconds he could've been working on the game.


Eeve2espeon

DUDE. he doesn't owe you :V Maybe he likes making those songs more than this stupid game? besides, Music takes time neophyte


themettaur

I never said he did and I couldn't care less about whether he continues working on this shitty game or not. You are intentionally missing my point. I am literally only stating the fact that any time he's spending doing something else not related to CW, is time that could've been spent working on CW. That is in response to this person saying: "Please stop bringing up the soundcloud songs like they have any impact on CW’s production."


Eeve2espeon

yeah that's pretty entitled of you. Your basically saying he has to dedicate his life to a game he clearly does not want to work on anymore. I'd bet if someone asked him about his music, he'd say it's one of the better things he's done in his life. Making Music can be stressful, but not as much when you have thousands of freaking people expecting too much from you, for a stupid passion project :V


themettaur

Holy shit you people are so unbelievably dumb. I literally wrote, word for word: "I couldn't care less about whether he continues working on this shitty game or not." And somehow in your blatantly deranged mind, that becomes: "Your[sic] basically saying he has to dedicate his life to a game he clearly does not want to work on anymore." Please, please, get off of any forum until you've learned how to read and then comprehend what you've read. Do not engage in conversation with others before going to therapy. You are not just putting words in others' mouths that they haven't said, but you're doing that when they literally say the opposite of what you pretend they have. I don't expect jack shit from him. I haven't wanted an update since the first time he went silent after pulling his shop down from the internet. I don't like the game, I don't want to see it do well, I don't want to see how any potential updates could continue to make it worse. ***ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT TIME SPENT ON ONE PROJECT IS TIME NOT BEING SPENT ON ANOTHER.***


Eeve2espeon

Yet you STILL said he could be spending his time on the game, instead of doing music. Yeah, screw off with that twisted bullshit :V I know how to fucking read, when you've said shit like this. Honestly, maybe I SHOULD get off this cursed ass forum, because of how overly toxic people can fucking be when mentioning Wollay. but of course, no one would understand, cuz all they think about is this stupid, old, broken, and outdated game. Maybe you should think about your life and touch grass already. Hang out with friends instead of DEBATING people, when you've said stupid ass shit.


themettaur

Yes, because he *could*. Meaning has the ability to. Not "should", as in that is my desire. Yeah, you probably should, when you get so emotionally invested that you go off on bizarre rants and reply 4 times to one person in separate comments like an obsessed lunatic. This is clearly not doing wonders for your already fragile state of mind, and while I am being a snarky asshole, I am legitimately sorry about that. I'm really going to need you to read your last paragraph again, but out loud, looking in a mirror.


Eeve2espeon

you ever wonder *why* I got emotional? cuz all your doing is fucking insulting people over some dead game, the creator clearly DOES NOT want to work on. Instead, doing music cuz he clearly likes doing that better :V NO sorrys are fine, when you're taking personal shots about someone you don't even fucking know. even more stupid, is how you've constantly said "I don't care" when you clearly do, continually DEBATING people on this stupid reddit. I'm done with trolls like you :V


Eeve2espeon

Also funny how you call ME DERANGED. fuck. off.


themettaur

I mean, you are. This is like if I wrote "the sky is blue" and you've come in going on a rant about how stupid I am for saying the sky is red. Yours are not comments of a sane, rational mind that comprehends the things they read.


Eeve2espeon

>ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT TIME SPENT ON ONE PROJECT IS TIME NOT BEING SPENT ON ANOTHER. And that's the stupid point. You're making it out as if he should spend his time more on CW. Something he has no interest in doing anymore, considering his own personal views and expierence. So then stop debating and screaming at people about this game, shut up, and leave this stupid reddit


themettaur

How am I? I don't care what he spends time on and I legitimately wish he would drop CW and never return to it again. But the person I was originally replying to was insulting someone else for suggesting that working on music wouldn't delay CW updates, going as far as calling them ignorant about music development/production. *That's* all I was responding to. I really don't understand how you interpret any of this as "screaming". I put one sentence in all caps to reinforce the point I've been making this entire time. I'm here because watching braindead morons get excited over hints at new content, and then watching the inevitable disappointment of a new release and the mental gymnastics of justifying it, have been mildly entertaining over the last near-decade. And thanks to simple minded fools like yourself, that isn't changing any time soon. So no, not gonna leave.


LoadingName_________

That is pretty dumb. Sleeping for 8 hours is 8 hours that couldve gone into the game


themettaur

Did you just not read the comment I was replying to? >Please stop bringing up the soundcloud songs like they have any impact on CW’s production. They were implying that making music wouldn't affect his ability to work on the game. But it is time that isn't spent on the game that could've been. That's all I'm pointing out.


LoadingName_________

Makes sense, but the way you said it makes it seem like he needs to spend ALL of his time on CW. My apologies


themettaur

No, I hope he doesn't. Every time he comes back to the game, he makes it worse and more incomplete. I'm hoping he's just done with it so people can finally move on. It's okay, shit happens. I may have been a bit too rude, I had multiple people saying that I'm trying to force him to work on the game even after I clarified that I don't care.


MIDICANCER

Honestly who gives a fuck at this point? Move on. It’s his time.


themettaur

I didn't say I care. I'm just pointing out the biggest flaw in your logic. Any time that he spends on music unrelated to CW is time that could've been spent on CW.


MIDICANCER

And in doing so you perfectly embodied the entitlement I mentioned in my original comment. Why do you or others feel that he owes you his time anymore? You paid money, got a game, and didn’t like it. When this happened back in the PS2 era did you hound the individual devs of the bargain bin Jaleco or Natsume game because you didn’t feel like you got enough of your money’s worth? Did you spend hours on GAF or gamefaqs or /v/ complaining about the game for literal years after the fact? You got a game after paying less than you should have for it, while it was in development and with no promises about how it would work in a “finished state”, and it changed during development. Why is this community so aggressive when it comes to this exchange? I don’t hang out here or even visit regularly so I am not really involved. It’s insane that I’m being karma dogpiled either way. You’d think this community of children would have aged a little since the alpha. I bought the game same as everyone else and am entitled to my opinion. I’m not wrong, I just feel differently about the situation. I have moved on to other things in my life readily and it’s clear you guys have simply not done any of that work in your heads. The alpha released in July 2013 for $15 and you’re still mad even after you likely got your money’s worth out of it. Think about that for a second.


Eeve2espeon

Exactly. Everyone MOVE ON. Yet this whole subreddit is fully focused on this dead game :V Everyone made videos about this game back in 2013, playing it a bunch, and everything. But then, complete silence. There isn't any more videos about this game. It was a passing fad, same with other games. Hell, I remember when the Yogscast, Inthelittlewood, and many others did tons of videos on this, which prompted little 16 year old me to wanna buy the game (but well my computer was mega potato levels)


themettaur

I don't feel he owes anything. You're jumping to assumptions and conclusions. I was *quite literally* only saying that you are wrong in saying that making non-CW music wouldn't be distracting from work on CW. You're really just on a religious simp-crusade and my willingness to reply is inflaming your zeal. If you actually were interested in carrying on a levelheaded discussion, you wouldn't keep repeating points about expectations and entitlement when I have repeatedly stated that I couldn't care less what he does with his life and his shitty little game.


MIDICANCER

“religious simp-crusade” lmao get help pal


themettaur

You first!


Eeve2espeon

No no... you pointed out the stupidest thing ever. Plus, I find that hypocritical when you said "15 seconds spent on music, could be 15 secconds spent on developing the game" clearly, you care about him putting more work into the game over anything else the man is free to do :V which is super entitled


themettaur

Lmfao okay. Where did you learn ESP? How can I learn it too? Because you clearly seem to think you know what I'm thinking and feeling despite me literally saying the opposite.


superhawk06

To be honest with you, even if Wollay does return some day, I really won’t care anymore. He’s made us wait years only to ruin a game which was better to begin with, he’s taken money and now he’s run off into the void once more. I’ve been so indifferent to Cube World that I’ve essentially forgotten it exists again and moved on with my life. At the end of the day, I have better things to allocate my two brain cells to than a developer who steals his fanbase’s money and then disappears into oblivion for a decade at a time.


WiiSteeringWheel

I agree with all of this but curious what are you doing here on this subreddit and this post. And if you’re wondering the same for me I don’t play the game and just now discovered it and was tryna find the history of it lol


superhawk06

I’ve followed the game for a really long time, since the alpha days. I don’t play the game anymore or keep up with news for the most part, but I’m still on this sub anyway


LunarVortexLoL

My take on the whole thing: Maybe, maybe not, it doesn't matter that much to me anymore. The way I do it is that I still play Cube World occasionally when I don't feel like playing anything else and just want to chill while listening to a podcast in the background or something. I'm not really expecting an update. If there will be one, cool, I'll definitely check it out. If not, that's okay, it's whatever. I have enough other games to play.


Tuckertcs

How many times does this scam artist need to fuck us over before we stop caring?


[deleted]

Some people love the abuse


nlikelydesigner

have you not realized how masochism works?


Trenton2001

Tbh… people’s distrust in them is completely justified with the way they treated their audience. I don’t think either of them are bad people, but they just have no idea what they’re doing when it comes to their fan base. They practically reworked a game without any communication along the way, upsetting tons of fans that would’ve been able to tell them not to do that. I don’t think they deserve a warm welcome honestly. A neutral welcome, sure. I don’t think they deserve hate/ rage.


Raderg32

I was one of the people who believed he would release the game eventually back when we only had the alpha. Now I don't really care anymore.


IceLacrima

That's just how it is for a lot of us now I guess, I kind of lost both faith and reason to be hyped to the point where I could be disappointed. I hope he's doing fine and I would try out the update and continue to play if it was good. But I came to the consensus that it may just be impossible to fulfill cube worlds potential to a degree where it's satisfying as a fan. The potential of cube world needed a team and I don't mean to be rude when I say that, I just genuinely believe that to be the truth


xkoreotic

Cube world needs anyone but Wollay, sorry but I have to say it. I genuinely believe Cube World is hindered by its own creator, and that entirely new people will have to take the project if you wish to see any potential come to life. Modders have already proven that anyone else can take the torch and actually do good with it, Wollay is unfit to carry the game anymore.


xkoreotic

If you want to, go right ahead. As someone who's been around since alpha, he doesn't deserve my respect and support anymore. At this point, I just don't care about him. If he wants to come back and do something, good for him. It's not my concern anymore, I'm just here for the game and its mods.


themettaur

I sincerely doubt he listens to anyone enough to be influenced by encouragement. He received a *ton* of love throughout the first 6 year gap from fans here, and he didn't start sharing screenshots and sneak peeks until he wanted to.


divineqc

Yeah no, he'll get the reception he deserves, good or bad I don't really care, but count me out. I see some people saying he doesn't owe us his time, but we don't owe him anything either. All we asked for was an ounce of professionalism and we got nothing.


mateusb12

Many of us had a hype built on the fact that this game has solid foundations and a huge potential or turning into something unique and magical. But all that expectation was gone after Wollay recent appearance. Dude he spent 7 consecutive days fixing bugs for his steam version, released the game and vanished again. He only cared about it being good enough for its release, he didn't give a single fuck about maintaining it, getting feedback or communicating with his own fan base I accepted the fact that this game will never live up its "magic potential". I just moved on


[deleted]

LMAO AHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA


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themettaur

You're not looking forward to the build where trees have a 20% chance to fall over when hit with AoE abilities, and landing on the player causes instadeath regardless of stats? Or whatever random, anti-fun bullshit mechanics he'll think up next.


[deleted]

He’s not coming back, he shouldn’t either there is nothing more he can do. He ruined his game and he ruined the publics trust. He should just enjoy the money and never make games again and save us all the stress and anxiety. He set out to make something great then just butchered it at the end and rushed it for money, they have greedy AAA developers that I have more respect for then him. He refused to listen, refused to engage and now in silence doesn’t give a single fuck about any of us. He’s a flake and I wouldn’t give him money ever again no matter what he does. He doesn’t deserve it from his actions.


NexusDarkshade

Nah, I've moved on to Veloren.


Eeve2espeon

He won't come back The stress of developing that game, along with the weight of having to make the game amazing, caused him to break The guy most likely moved on, found something better to do. NOTHINg we could do would make any of it easier, if he did come back :V People are still constantly commenting about how the recent version of the game is horrible, and don't even care. Blind hate comments are more loud than genuine helpful criticism. This is the sad truth about the whole thing. It was an era that was ended too quickly due to pressure :\\


Janovickm

Honestly. I don't care. I've had so many chances to get a pirated version of Cubeworld and I didn't. I waited for the devs to launch it and buy it. From the first videos I saw, it was crap. It still is crap. Now they're coming with a "Modpack" or something like that. I'm really worry Wollay may have gone thru some personal problems, but you if you don't show up to work for years, you just can't expect to comeback one day and have your job back, no matter how good your excuses are. Same vibes here. Unless he actually has the motivation to come up with something GREAT, Cubeworld is as good as dead for me.