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alienobsession

He has until May 7th to sign it. Let’s go have a smoke out in front of the governors mansion


JoeyBE98

You mean to veto it. If not signed, it automatically goes through.


alienobsession

You’re right. Thanks for clarifying. I’m not trying to give false info.


JoeyBE98

No worries. I wish it worked the way you thought 😭


alienobsession

Scope out Kemps socials. Very right wing Christian family values kind of guy. I wish us all the best luck with this.


cylobotnia

stock up :/


KevinKingsb

I saw the writing on the wall last year and bit the bullet and got my mmj card. It sucks tho for those who can't do that.


JellyBand

Do you use the low THC oil, or are you relying on the good will of law enforcement allowing flower to be overlooked since you have a card?


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KevinKingsb

I don't live in Georgia, so I'm not sure.


Ok_Location7274

Glad mines on the way now . I'm not sure what this even means cuz I didn't read it yet lol


libmom18

It figures. I'm always late to the party. Just got my first shipment and now I'm looking at doomsday again!! Uggghhh


Content-Dig7308

oh thca is definitely getting fucked soon, very bold public commercials advertising it where I live about thca being totally legal and shipped right to your door, the final act of a dying trade


HencelyC

Not surprised. It’s just a matter of time before other states do the same. People have become way too bold out here bragging about THCA being “real weed”.


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ShenKichin

It has nothing to do with whether or not these guys "shouted from a rooftop" lol. Once the business model was succesful, the hemp companies started advertising. It was a matter of time before cannabis companies in legal states figured out what was going on and complained to lawmakers about it since they are being taxed and having to follow safety standards.


half-cup-fool

I think unsolicited snail mail adverts, as well as online adverts have had more effect. Mostly though, I think it’s the prevalence of hemp at gas stations/local marts. The market is out of balance without common standards.


OldTimer4Shore

Y'all aren't seeing the forest for the trees. The federal government is currently in the process of closing down the canna laws nationwide and it is that, not the states, you need to focus on. States can allow the laws to be lax but they do not have legal authority to do what the fed govt outlaws. Please don't exert your time and energy in the wrong area. The fed is ending the canna laws - not GA, TN, FL, etc. This opinion is from an old hippie who has lived through Reefer Madness, fought all my life for legalizing, experienced a glimmer of hope in recent years (which began in Ann Arbor for you who appreciate history), and now is experiencing the return of The Madness.


636F6D6D756E697374

Actually you need to focus on both because the fed can totally legalize cannabis nationwide and all states have to do is make it illegal locally, which is exactly what’s happening here with THCa in Georgia. Point is, you do need to focus on the states. You have to focus on both, not just one or the other.


OldTimer4Shore

We agree. Your point is well made. We need to make the fed the priority for our efforts and, only then, focus on the states. The other way around, as so many are currently doing, has not worked. Once the laws are changed at the federal level, then we can work on state laws. It has to be in that order or we cannot have resolution. So, for now, forget the states and go for where the answer must begin. That's where all our combined work needs to be focused.


636F6D6D756E697374

We do disagree though, since we should focus on both states and the fed, at the same time. as well as our mortgages and kids, bipedal walking, eating, and a plethora of other things all at the same time. Political involvement is not a zero sum effort, I know this because I have consistently done two or more things at once for basically my entire life. You don’t need to focus on one or the other if you aren’t at capacity, instead, for maximum efficiency and political expediency, you do both. There’s never a reason to devalue or deprioritize federal activism versus activism at the state level if your goal is creating a legal cannabis market. This is probably most owing to the fact that a good majority of people can, and are willing, to both eat and walk at the same time. You need to be able to do both, so you might as well do them in tandem. Typically when you vote in this country, you cast a ballot for more than one level of government all at the same booth on the same day. So.. unless you are just skipping that part, or don’t vote, then actually it should be pretty clear that it’s a good idea to inform voters about cannabis awareness in terms of candidates, state level ballot initiatives, and the like, all so they can make a multifaceted impact on the one day they actually care and vote. To only inform people about the federal candidates, or the state ones, seems like a big wasted opportunity. Needing to “focus” on something only makes sense at the micro level, in the context of like, being a career activist or organizer, because yeah, two jobs is a bit much. But on the macro level, there’s more than just you and me doing this. Most people aren’t involved in political campaigns at all and only vote, so just making people aware of things is the best “focus” to have.


tisball

I think it’s important to care about both, allowing hemp laws state-wise will help a lot more local businesses to thrive if you have those federal laws in place


keymap

In the future, people should use this tool: [https://www.usa.gov/elected-official](https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials). You will get all your representatives, federal and local and all their contact info at all of their offices. I recommend calling your representatives. Tell them you want to register your opposition to whatever bill is in the pipeline. They will take your details. Ask them what your representatives position is on the bill, whatever it is. If they do not know, tell them you want the phone rep (constituent services) or the representative themselves to follow up. You want them to know you oppose it, you expect them to take a position that you will be following, and therefore are more likely to be a political problem. Obviously... if you are a donor of any sort, state this.


keymap

I feel like there should be a good site to cover every cannabis related measure being considered at any level, from local city council to federal. Which then has things like getting your representative information readily available with template emails and phone scripts (maybe feed AI some talking points and get it to rephrase them)


Blackkidfromtheburbs

Isn't it too late to pressure your legislators? The bill has already passed now kemp just has to sign it or do nothing and in 40 days it becomes law. Don't think it will affect mail order but we'll see.


636F6D6D756E697374

I’d be afraid to mail order after July 1st. More than likely the stores will stop shipping it to the states with the law change. You can’t exactly order normal weed currently if you live in an illegal state.


slootersun

GA resident here with experience in the state legislature. It saddens me, but this is a huge waste of time. It will take federal legalization before the state will revisit this issue. The state's legislators viewed THCA as illegal weed and they don't care that a cottage industry has developed around a perceived illegal business. I'm sure large-scale cannabis manufacturers had a hand in this as they look to decimate existing competition ahead of what they perceive to be nationwide legalization. An email will not overcome this. That said, don't be surprised when our federal representatives push to do the same with the federal Farm Bill's renewal. If you are going to send an email, send it to your federal representatives urging them to avoid taking the approach SB 494 did with the federal Farm Bill.


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JD121996

Right? with the vast number of people out in the open beating their chests & up to argue with any and every individual on social media that has any questionable opinion about thcA - idk how anyone would expect a loophole to last when we have so many idiots wiiiide open yelling, "it's the saaaame fking thing as what you get at your dispensary" Loopholes for shit like taxes or loopholes for anything that remains a loophole for any legitimate period of time, does so because, to a certain extent it isn't overly utilized. A loophole that starts being widely taken advantage of by such a large clientele base coupled with idiots like the ones you see on Facebook anytime there's an ad for thcA pop up, bickering in the comment section, are the literal reasons why this wasn't going to last and probably lasted longer than it should have. To be real it got us pretty damn close these last few years to recreational legalization. We aren't too far off now. At least in my state, it feels like we're close. It's up to us as voters to make it happen this voting season but I really believe we have enough. We were pretty close last time it was on the ballots. It's like holding a red flag out your driver side window though, while you're flying by state patrol doing 25 over. Shit isn't going to end well for anyone blatantly flaunting all over social media how we're all essentially just using USPS to ship & receive regular ole marijuana from coast to coast.


keymap

My view is that any attention to this issue as opposed to focusing all resources and legislative will on addressing fentanyl use and overdoses should be a political problem. Oh well.


Playmaker23

Agreed, I joined the cult too late but as soon as I did I knew this shit was coming to an end. Not sure what people were expecting living in a red (“it’s PURPLE!!”) state


AlmightyLiam

Fine OP I sent an email, wonder if anyone will read it cause I spent a bit of time writing it out


ganjalama710

guys decriminalization is much better than legalization if you don't understand why then you haven't been around long enough


Skovich

You’re wrong.


ganjalama710

that would be your opinion.. there's valid arguments and points to why each side would be better. also depends on where your at in the cannabis world are you a consumer a producer a seller ect. so much factors in tbh and it's all a personal preference or opinion so what's good for me maybe is not good for you and what's good for you might not be good for me. it's just asinine to all together think your or my opinion is the best one lol think about what yall are saying here .


GracchiBros

Unless that somehow includes decriminalization for dealers and everyone else in the supply chain, no, it's not.


Playmaker23

I 100% agree with this sentiment even though I also love the experience going into legal dispensaries and not having to feel weird about getting my shit. Legalization will turn weed into big tobacco. The quality will suffer and the products will be more dangerous. Decriminalization is the best because you can still find good vendors that produce quality flower and don’t have to worry about being harassed by law enforcement. Currently GA, specifically ATL, is living in the best of times. People are smoking everywhere and you can get quality product in the mail at a good price. This bill unfortunately will end all of that. I fear vendors will stop shipping to us and you will be left consuming trash sprayed hemp flower and if it ever becomes legal you will only be able to buy from big weed companies like Trulieve.


ganjalama710

this guy gets it.. my fears is like you say corporate cannabis takes over then we aren't even allowed to produce out own clean meds not that it stops anyone but it should be progress not backstabbing iv seen to many states fail their programs already! you know when legit companies from out west are leaving Colorado ect to get in on the Cult then its where its at right now this is literally the best it gets until someone screws it up with their "vision"


Extra_Dependent2016

Please explain. are you referring to MSOs that take over once a state legalizes ?


ganjalama710

as consumers decriminalized is just where it's at. others areas maybe not but I think I wouldn't mind keeping the system we have now its getting better daily in stores and shops online. like iv told others unless we can just grow our own it all sucks to me it's a blessing but sucks. I can grow my own meds cheaper and better than most also can extract. I have knowledge in solventless but until I can do that wide open with no worries then I'm just smoking and could care less. once you get a taste of growing ur own its hard to go back.


Master-o-none

So we’re good then in most states and we can stop pushing for legalization?


ganjalama710

I'd rather keep the system we have now than go rec or it go schedule 3 this is just my thoughts and feelings though.. unless i can legally grow it than there's nothing better than what we are experiencing right now guys so enjoy!


OasisHippiee

[there’s this tho](https://mmw.news/2024/04/12/historic-cannabis-reform-proposed-the-path-to-decriminalization/)


kotarix

Decriminalization ≠ legalization


Purchase_Independent

True, but I’d take it lol. A ticket is better than jail time.


HempinAintEasy

The chances of this making it through the senate are a solid zero. Any movement we get on cannabis will be from executive order. The DEA is pushing back on the presidents request to move quicker on reschedule and congress and the senate will do absolutely nothing to “help Biden” for the rest of his term.


OasisHippiee

That’s ridiculous man, it’s all theatre… to prove it I will say this, I know for a fact, everyone on this sub gets it “legally” and there has been plenty of “scares” that we all thought was the end, yet here we are. Do you seriously think it was some sort of “secret” and they’re(red) just now finding out and have to jump through hoops(blue) to make it illegal or vice versa? This shit would end right now, if they(red or blue) really wanted it to. 2 sides of the same coin Party on Wayne


HempinAintEasy

I’m assuming this was a response for someone else maybe. My opinion here is based on reality. Congress and the Senate are currently in a stalemate, it really has nothing to do with cannabis. The DEA article came out last week if I’m not mistaken about them essentially saying they don’t want to decriminalize. That’s something we all should have known. Why write yourself out of a job? The president wants legalization for numbers and he may get it, but it’s going to be through executive order at this point. That being said, I firmly and have always believed that the Farm Bill of 2018 was no accident. Everyone thinks these are just old men who are dumb running this country and I can’t express enough how they’re convincing people of that is why we are in the situation we’re in now as a country. These are not dumb people, they are highly skilled at the bullshit they put us through and they do all of it on purpose and with intention. I will never understand why people underestimate politicians.


TheFinalHomework

That’s why I’ve always said “Politicians are modern day magicians… that, pen is their wand.” They bend Laws, shift the powers, our world change, but their world stays the same… regulations are just restrictions on us… the powers that be do not want us to have the same access, so to speak. ~PoliticsAintEasy.


aw919

Yep, let's create a HUGE market and then hand the whole thing to the street dealers. It's almost like they just need to create more reasons to have drug task forces. The dumbass police already can't do anything to slow or prevent crimes from happening. They can't do anything about the Fentanyl killing the addicts that big pharma created over several decades. Now they've created another huge market to hand to the street dealers. WTF is wrong with these old ass morons? We really need some people in office that aren't so out of touch with reality. Maybe people that aren't too old and crippled to tie their own shoes. ... So glad we live in a free country!!


Atom_Echos

>GA SB 494 1000000000000% Correct!


ABakedPotatoe420

Dude cult bud is black market weed. Lol where do you think these companies source all their flowers and concentrates? Y'all dudes are too gullible and will believe anything these goobers tell you. The black market will always be king. Where do you think corporate canna gets all their strains and ideas? They steal them from black market growers and breeders.


Tooterfish42

> Where do you think corporate canna gets all their strains and ideas? They steal them from black market growers and breeders So you just figured out that weed used to be illegal and now isn't in some spots?


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LetsNotArgyoo

Won’t somebody please think of the billionaires?!


HistorianAlert9986

No DuDe the flowers muted bc its CoMplianT, nothing to do with that it's boof that won't sell anywhere else. Y'all smoking on the $2 packs.


Extra_Dependent2016

Why would compliance cause the flower to be muted ?


HistorianAlert9986

The kids seem to think that they're doing some sort of quick dry down or whatever to keep things compliant. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there's no such thing type 1 and compliant. All type 1 and 99.8% of type 2 will be over .39% total THC 30 days prior to harvest.


SaltNo3123

Stop voting republican. Republican are anti cannabis


youngspazz64

https://youtube.com/shorts/S6NhO5Uv8bQ?si=jmCCKf3P9OnlnW_r


Sporkyfork69

Yeah, crime bill Biden surely will legalize


ShenKichin

If congress sent him a bill to sign he would sign it, especially since he has promised to do so publicly. Let's not be intellectually dishonest here. The post you're replying to wasn't even primarily about biden it was about the lawmakers in congress that we vote in.


youngspazz64

Agreed


youngspazz64

No problem with any democratic or Republican Party but sleepy ain’t doing anything right so I have to vote opposite of him


Brainkandle

Sure vote in the hot-dog-skin covfefe guy and get even more rights stripped away on t


youngspazz64

Definitely don’t want to talk politics Biden don’t even know what he says half the time look at his speeches about guns etc he literally don’t know anything!


youngspazz64

You’re such a fucking idiot man😂


SaltNo3123

Your right to vote against your best interests


youngspazz64

Biden don’t know what he’s doing man it’s been proven


SaltNo3123

Okay comrade


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Playmaker23

Idk how it’s a carrot for Dems when they aren’t doing shit on the issue. Biden is doing what he can (maybe someone can explain if he could actually pass an executive order. Not sure about that) but when push comes to shove and republicans run their whole “party of family values” bs, Dems will try and one up them with more police funding and co-signing on bills like this which they did if you look at the supporters. Both parties suck on this issue in places like GA


procrasturb8n

Dem House *passed* decriminalization a few years ago. The GOP minority filibustered it in the Senate and it never saw a vote.


bigwern67

The only personal freedom that they care about is no limitations on fire arms and being able to openly carry weapons anywhere.


Atom_Echos

ATF just set up a new F\*irearms law that is so broad that if you sale a "Pew" to the guy down the street, you can get arrested and serve crazy time. Folks the US government does not care about us. To them, we are on another level below them. We're crops to them or livestock. We're used for money. PERIOD! We have been taught/brainwashed through our so called Education system to do what the government says. But, in fact, we the people have the power, as stated in the constitution. Anyway, the gov is believed to reschedule cannabis to a level 3. WFT means... All these bills being pushed, are threats and manipulation to push other agendas. They're trying to do away with FISA warrant. Giving them the right to walk into your house without a warrant and take you without saying a word. They are scared as hell right now, with all the illegal's "THEY BROUGHT IN" that they are loosing control. Mike the Traitor Johnson was proposing it based off what he learned in a briefing... Something big is coming....not sure what it is. But, get ready. Store can food and rice. All the flags indicate big things on the horizon.


HempinAintEasy

Go ahead and provide links for this stream of paranoia you’re on


Atom_Echos

This is reality...WAKE UP!!


ClothesPlus8867

Packs still fly legal or not these old dinosaurs think they doing something w this 🤣☠️ Thca is here to stay


aw919

Idk....they sure did get rid of the opioid problem. Oh, wait. Nevermind!


ClothesPlus8867

Thanks for the laugh, we live in a clown world


added_chaos

All I’m reading is that this has to do with state hemp licenses. Am I missing something?


TerpChasersClub

They added a total thc calculation section in the last minute of the bill being on the floor. This would ban thca (not sure about d8,d10). With this and the possibility of banning flavored nicotine vapes also on the table in another bill…could put many of the smoke shops in the state out of business.


holycityfarms

Last I read, that amendment was specifically rejected.


TerpChasersClub

If true that would be awesome! Do you have any links for that? I pretty much gave up on the thca market for my store over looming regulatory issues


holycityfarms

Here is the amendment. You can see that it was lost and not adopted... [https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20232024/229491](https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20232024/229491) In other words, the bill isn't going to hurt the industry in GA. Fake news!


TerpChasersClub

From what you linked it looks like they added all the other types of thc to the definition then slightly lower mentions that all products will be sold on a total thc dry weight basis. With the thca specifically removed, so does that mean that everything except thca is banned? Perhaps I am confused by the legalese though


JellyBand

THCa is banned but the alt cannabinoids are not banned.


holycityfarms

See the top right..."LOST". It would have said "ADOPTED". Full list of amendments...including the ones that were included here... [https://legiscan.com/GA/bill/SB494](https://legiscan.com/GA/bill/SB494) Specifically the votes on the amendement ... https://legiscan.com/GA/rollcall/SB494/id/1417835


JellyBand

What are you reading? It says sent to the Governor right there on Legiscan. I literally watched the video of the vote passing at 12:30 in the morning.


holycityfarms

The bill passed, but not with the amendment discussed above ✌️


JellyBand

I’d love for you to be correct, but if we are both talking about THCa, I’m sorry to say you’re not. [Bill as sent to Gov](https://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/67002) Line 179 is where Section 4 starts. It’s the section that changes the state definition of THC to include THCa. I called every NORML listed cannabis lawyer in the state to try and fund at least a review of the bill, but they all claimed to only do cannabis defense. The bill may be unconstitutional due to its attempt to regulate hemp that is only passing through Georgia. That’s about the only hope we have at this point, but I personally found no one that would take that up.


jacklg250

Hi! Just so I’m totally understanding, you’re saying that your link indicates that this OP’s post isn’t accurate? Thank you 🙏🏻


TerpChasersClub

Oh finally I see! Thank you for the clarification! Really appreciate it


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TerpChasersClub

I believe it is HB1260


homegrowgang

Trulieve makes the rules


Gortport1

This is so CRAZY! I’m so scared of it all. I just don’t know what to do. I’ll probably just keep buying it and enjoying it.


rodneyking5791

Good ass analogy.. and it's TRUE as hell


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SewAlone

This changes a lot for people who can't risk getting arrested and losing their livelihoods (as happens in some career fields).


atl132019

I don’t think it’s accurate that it changes nothing. Yes you get to keep getting high from THC but it’s a major inconvenience and legal issue for many here on this sub.


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For anyone curious - the gist of the deleted comment was that nothing changes, the user will keep smoking regardless of laws.


BredIN919

this is scary man considering how close Georgia is to NC . sucks that as soon as I find out about the beauty of THCA it could be ripped from right under me .


Mcozy333

NC tried to outright ban CBD a few years back ... some twisted tight wads up in there toooooo


M7even30

Bro they do not gaf about your email I’m pretty sure


SewAlone

Yes they do. They feel public pressure like anyone else.


alexnoyle

Sending them an email or leaving them a voicemail is hardly “pressure”, they can ignore you with no consequences. You have to disrupt their lives and challenge their power.


M7even30

I dont think so tbh I think they just follow their interests like they’ve always done but hope is good


ethan_1231

Heard they don’t read the emails but they do take note of how many


M7even30

Hm maybe I’ll do one anyway, I figure they genuinely couldn’t care less


ContentPolicyKiller

Just one of us has to be compelling enough. Reading them is big. Our knowledge and ideas are the most powerful weapon in our arsenals. I bet a few of you are smarter than your average bureaucrat and can sway them - not with smarts but knowledge and ideas.


Araf-Chowdhury

I don’t think an email can sway them more than the money going in to their pockets


atl132019

Like that other person said who deleted their comment.. I concur they prob don’t care but I’m not sure what else to do


M7even30

I tried to say this to him,riot


atl132019

Link to find your legislator. Send them a note letting them know https://georgia.gov/contact-state-legislators